I'm trawling back through that thread and looking for the posts where he was insulted. OK.
Mason-free party said this:
Ronson's strings are being pulled by the 'berg' mafia[Lundberg] so you can bet there is a zionist agenda somewhere in what he does like most of the zionist television bs we have to suffer.
Abandoned Ego said this:
Hahaha, bless your soul Jon.
Playing the old religion card huh ?
Dont try that one here mate. Its cheap, pathetic and disgusting. Its actually a typical Bilderburg ( for Bilderburgs read Freemasonic gathering ) tactic.
And YES, you did play it first. Illuminated indeed.
Meanwhile, How about going back to what you claim to be good at.
Can you check out the US Social Security Death Index. And tell us all how many of the passengers on those 4 fated Airplanes are listed ?
Or perhaps you might do some real investigative journalism, and ask yourself how it is that 7 of the 'hijackers' on those planes happen to be alive and well ?
I'll forgive you the science bit. You obviously arent a scientist either.
kbo234 said this (as part of a longer post):
Zionism is the tool they have been using since its conception in the late 1800's to advance their interests and expand their powers. Their aim is a One-World government controlled by them. They use Zionism against the interests of the world and also against the interests of Jews. Most Jews have, in my opinion, been suckered into unconditionally supporting Israel. The Jews have been used. They have too often accepted the money and swallowed the pill. The state of Israel is likely to develop into the Jews' greatest disaster. Its purpose is to create the division that forments a final disatrous World war that will leave the desperate remnants of humanity crying out for a solution. The bankers will be ready with their answer.
This is the plan Jon. The evidence is written down. The previous two world wars fulfilled their objectives. The first destroyed the German and Ottoman Empires. The second destroyed the British Empire. The world is moving ever more quickly towards a single banker's Empire. At this point Zionism will be history and so, probably, will you and I.
Then Justin said this (as part of a longer post):
The world's media is largely controlled by Zionists - if that wasn't true we would have heard long ago about NETUREI KARTA and other orthodox Jewish groups who are against Zionism and who passionately oppose the creation of Israel and who wholeheartedly support the Palestinians in their struggle for justice. And by the way Jon, the unfurling news coming from Israel and the Lebanon is entirely contrived and a lot of innocent people are being taken in as they side with one or other of the two sides when, ultimately, they are being controlled and manipulated by the same global elite.
Then kbo234 says this (as part of a longer post):
If Zionists control the money supply, which they do, then they can control everthing else as well. People get their money from them. They choose who will be rich and who won't.
I have a mortgage. The bank own my house. They can crash the market, send interest rates soaring and grab it if they want. When I have paid them off it is mine. This will probably happen shortly before I die. I will leave the house to others who will sell it then the bank own the house again. The majority shareholders in all the big banks are the Rothschilds/Rockerfeller/Warburg/Schiff/ Morgans etc. These people are known to be pushing for a one world government. The are using Zionism to promote this agenda.
If you want some evidence that Zionists control the media, WATCH THE NEWS. Israel is always the victim. You never hear a word about a 'Zionist agenda'. The most significant fact of political life...who creates our money.....is a non-issue. 911 was carried out by 19 guys with Stanley knives working for a mastermind in a cave in Afghanistan.
People making these programmes don't actually have to be Zionists themselves. They know what they can and can't say. Why, for instance, has no TV station shown, let alone discussed, the collapse of WTC7? It was a fairly significant event wasn't it? The stations have been bombarded with 9/11 DVD's, letters etc. They certainly know all about it.
Then dh says this:
I'd agree with Justin's comments elsewhere that events going on in the ME are an entree to the opening phase of the final showdown. This could easily go nuclear
It's hardly surprising if the meek and humble acting Ronson should start to play a part here
He has the capacity to behave as a shill with regards to the intellectual, left-leaning and liberal parts of the population. You give Jon Henry Makow, he'll use it against you
Handle with care
God, this guy is paranoid
At this point Jon Ronson resigns.
Then dh says this:
Well, good riddance I say Ian
If it was him, and I like him like most others here, but I suspect him
He was only here for nefarious purposes without a doubt
In his piece on Icke did you hear his remark about the crew mentioning the jews
I love his staring at goats piece, but here his like is very dangerous
He is a complete clever know-it-all slimy goatf**ker
There's a good self-deprecating quote for him to use at some point
If we've scared him off all to the good
Hey Ronson, we dont take kindly to your type around hyur - South Park
Good night and god Bless
Then Alkmyst says this:
Hey Jon-Boy, how about linking your comment in to this thread so that your illustrious readers can see for themselves how you elect to ignore any question which might impact upon your elective view of reality?
You then re-appear as soon as the term 'Zionist' appears in the thread ... and immediately cast unjustifiable and indefensible aspersions of anti-semitism.
Your tactics speak volumes... although it would seem as though you are still studying ADL 101.
Things then calm down a bit and Ronson decides to return. After a little while of reasonable debate, Mason-free weighs in with this:
eh Ronson...who pulled your strings to set up Alex Jones /Bohemian Grove and was Alex supposed to get that far into the Grove or was that a zionist c*** up?
Then Brian writes:
jonronson writes -
"As I say, I am not inclined to believe 9/11 was an inside job, but I'm not trying to stop anyone from investigating it. Maybe I'll investigate it one day."
May I ask what you are actually doing here?
Believing or not believing something so important and world changing should not be a matter of inclination.
Perhaps it would be better for all concerned if you were to investigate the subject before tying up peoples time with frankly ill thought through questions.
"Maybe I'll investigate it one day." you say.
Well bully for you - meanwhile the world is going to hell and its being perpatrated on the basis of the Sept 11 lie.
Time is of the essence.
At this point Ronson gets terminably fed up and tries to leave. Then he returns to say:
Okay, this is my very last post. I don't want to be like one of those ageing rockers always coming back for farewell tours.
I come to your site. I ask two questions about 9/11. I am serious about hearing the answers. And, on both occasions, these questions are met with a barrage of "How juvenile!" "How ill-informed!" etc etc.
Do you do that with everyone who doesn't believe exactly what you believe?
And you wonder why people won't meet you or listen to your arguments?
But Timmy G, those are interesting points. I will look those up.
Then Mason-free says:
has Ronson got it yet or still living a zionist lie?
Followed by:
Maybe i am being provocative Ian but until these idiots wake up in television who without doubt have an Israel bias and continue to dodge the 911 truth then i shall keep having a dig until they show responsibility in reporting the unbiased facts.
We all know also the * masons are also hand in glove with Israel,one of the main aims of freemasonry is to rebuild Solomons temple and cause a bloody massive war in the process...Solomon temple freaks the lot of them...lets not beat about the bush because until people realise the zionist/masonic connection nothing will change
Reading and reflecting through all that it becomes apparent that mason-free was the worst culprit, and dh and Alkymyst don't do this site any favours in this thread.
But in the end it was Mason-free who immediately started ranting about Zionism and turned the thread ugly, which led to Ronson leaving and now this hatchet job in the Guardian.
I'm Jewish and would have reacted in a pretty similar way myself if I wasn't already convinced by the 9-11 arguments here. Mason-free's rantings look anti-Semitic even to me and I'm prepared to accept that certain Zionist forces, along with other powers may well have been behind 9-11.
Oh and Alkmyst's 'Jon-boy' could so easily read as 'Jew-boy'. Believe me. It was gratuitous and incredibly rude.
But back to the original point of this post; a terrible mistake was made in this thread. Jon Ronson
was prepared to debate, and he became disgusted when the argument quickly turned to rabid anti-Zionism and he came under a barrage of insults. I don't blame him for leaving - he may well have stayed if the rabid anti-Zionism had been kept out of the argument.
I understand he still hasn't replied to Andrew Johnson, which is disappointing. I think he should, as he promised he would. But I also think Mason-free should be invited back to account for him/herself and be prepared to face the fact that his/her comments have had a very damaging effect on this site.
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