World Trade Center towers collapse new compelling evidence

[powval]

A team of scientists claim to have unearthed startling data from dust and debris gathered in the days and weeks after the World Trade Center towers collapsed on Sept. 11, 2001.

In a study published by the Open Chemical Physics Journal -- a peer-reviewed, scientific publication -- Steven E. Jones and Niels Harrit level a stark allegation: that within the dust and rubble of the World Trade Center towers lays evidence of "a highly engineered explosive," contrary to all federal studies of the collapses.

http://www.youtube.com/user/STJ911

[fish5133]

Thanks for posting powval. This has been out for several months now but i quite understand its significance to you the first time you come across it. It seems to be another piece of the jigsaw, possibly a corner piece.

[scienceplease 2]

A team of scientists claim to have unearthed startling data from dust and debris gathered in the days and weeks after the World Trade Center towers collapsed on Sept. 11, 2001.

In a study published by the Open Chemical Physics Journal -- a peer-reviewed, scientific publication -- Steven E. Jones and Niels Harrit level a stark allegation: that within the dust and rubble of the World Trade Center towers lays evidence of "a highly engineered explosive," contrary to all federal studies of the collapses.

http://www.youtube.com/user/STJ911

Welcome aboard, Powval. It's shocking isn't it!?

Go to www.ae911truth.org - read the stuff there - and sign the petition.

[Micpsi]

Before you all get excited, you should read this objective, critical discussion of Niels Harrit's and Steven Jones' findings:
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2009/08 ... -a-weasel/
An example:

According to Harrit:
"“We have observed that some chips have additional elements
such as potassium, lead, barium and copper. Are these significant, and why do such elements appear in some red chips and not others?”

Problem:
If all the “red chips” do NOT have the same chemical composition, how are they arguing that they are all the same “super-thermite” demolition material?

According to Harrit, their samples ignited at a lower temperature than that reported by NIST for the paint in the columns. Does that mean it was thermitic? No. Perhaps the paint chips came from trusses instead of columns that had a different chemical composition and ignited at a lower temperature. Harrit et al mad a tacit assumption that they ignored because they were so eager to prove the presence of nano-thermate at the WTC.

In the discussion at the link above. you will discover grave doubts by 9/11 truthers about Harrit's claims (and, no, they are not acolytes of Dr Judy Wood, either, so they have no pet, rival theories to defend). He never said he had found nano-thermate, only "thermitic material" which he never specified. Other 9/11 truthers have jumped to conclusions which Harrit's findings do not justify. Furthermore, there is a far simpler explanation for the molten metal that leaked out of the walls of the South Tower near the 81st floor and which was the basis for Jones' original explanation that it was steel melted by thermite/thermate: the molten metal was lead from all the lead batteries known to have been housed on that floor IN THAT AREA by Fuji Bank as a backup power source for the bank's computers. And don't give me that old chestnut about the colour of the molten metal being wrong. Molten lead looks red-orange at temperature of 700-900 degrees Centigrade
http://femr2.ucoz.com/_ph/5/2/61624873.jpg
- still within the range of office fires and burning jet fuel. The molten metal was in all likelihood mostly lead, not iron, so no thermitic material needed to be present to explain it. Quite apart from the other problem: if thermitic material was planted all over the towers, why did molten metal not pour out of many other places? It just happens to leak out only from the very floor reinforced by Fuji Bank to house their batteries and people think that's just a coincidence?!!

As for that famous photo of fire fighters scorching their skins whilst looking down a hole at (supposedly) molten metal - they were simply shining their lamps at something in a hole - perhaps a body. Jones' clumsy attempt to change the colours in the graphic image he used in his infamous paper on 9/11 to make it look like a pool of molten steel heated by thermite/thermate fooled quite a few people. But there is no excuse to remain fooled by his deception.

[Pugwash]

And don't give me that old chestnut about the colour of the molten metal being wrong. Molten lead looks red-orange at temperature of 700-900 degrees Centigrade

Oh yeah! Show me?

[Steel2Dust]

Thermite and planes? Are you kidding me?

It seems like we are going backwards.

[scienceplease 2]

Before you all get excited, you should read this objective, critical discussion of Niels Harrit's and Steven Jones' findings:
http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2009/08 ... -a-weasel/

"Objective"? Surely any discussion starting with "Harrit is a weasel" is rather suspect. I don't mind something challenging but this appears to be from the Popular Mechanics school of 9/11 debunking.

[Disco_Destroyer]

Thermite and planes? Are you kidding me?

It seems like we are going backwards.

lol and what kind of beam weapon do you suppose turns steel to dust?

The b****** File Beam Weapon?

[Disco_Destroyer]

Thermite and planes? Are you kidding me?

It seems like we are going backwards.

lol and what kind of beam weapon do you suppose turns steel to dust?

The b****** File Beam Weapon?

Last time I looked steel to dust couldn't be shipped to India and China very easily

[fish5133]

The only thing i know that can turn steel to dust is rust or a file. Maybe if it gets cold enough it might become brittle and you could smash it with a hammer.
The old process of making lead shot in varying sizes including one known by anglers as dust shot was to melt lead at a high level and pour it down a shaft so it hit a mesh (of varying sizes) this would cause the lead to turn into spheroids and then cool as it continued to fall. The presence of molten iron spheroids found in the dust (according to the Jones, Harritt scientistss) would suggest molten metal falling.

[Disco_Destroyer]

The only thing i know that can turn steel to dust is rust or a file. Maybe if it gets cold enough it might become brittle and you could smash it with a hammer.
The old process of making lead shot in varying sizes including one known by anglers as dust shot was to melt lead at a high level and pour it down a shaft so it hit a mesh (of varying sizes) this would cause the lead to turn into spheroids and then cool as it continued to fall. The presence of molten iron spheroids found in the dust (according to the Jones, Harritt scientistss) would suggest molten metal falling.

Yep the 200 odd year old Shot Tower in Melbourn is the oldest building in Melbourn and possibly Australia, so what they do? Build a shopping mall round it :X