05-10Nov07 - NATIONAL - Webster Tarpley UK Tour

[TonyGosling]

Here it is....
Being printed now...

http://www.gunpowder-plot.org.uk/

{edit - this flyer disappeared - here it is re-uploaded - please copy }

From Guy Fawkes to 9/11
400 Years of State Sponsored Terror

London - Monday November 5th
St John's Church, Waterloo Road

Oxford - Tuesday November 6th
Council Chamber, Town Hall, St Aldate's

Bristol - Wednesday November 7th
QEH Theatre, Jacob's Wells Road

Leeds - Thursday Novemnber 8th
Lecture Theatre B2, Lesley Silver Building, Leeds University, Calverley Street

Lancaster - Friday November 9th
Hugh Pollard Lecture Theatre, St Martin's College, Bowerham Road

Edinburgh - Saturday November 10th
Freinds Meeting House, 7 Victoria Terrace

All venues start at 7:00pm
£5.00 donation

[Disco_Destroyer]

You might want to make Webster Bold too

[TonyGosling]

Ta eagle-eyed Disco,

Did actually spot that in the proof reading but don't have the final flier pdf yet - will replace this one when I can.

By the way - do you really want to put an end to discotheques?
I rather like the better 1970s disco music. Like... well maybe I better not go there

You might want to make Webster Bold too

[Disco_Destroyer]

lol nah more pressing things to thwart

[disco volante]

Provisional dates:

London - Monday November 5th

Oxford - Tuesday November 6th

Bristol - Wednesday November 7th

Leeds - Thursday Novemnber 8th

Lancaster - Friday November 9th

Edinburgh - Saturday November 10th

[TonyGosling]

Actually they're final dates!

Provisional dates:

London - Monday November 5th

Oxford - Tuesday November 6th

Bristol - Wednesday November 7th

Leeds - Thursday Novemnber 8th

Lancaster - Friday November 9th

Edinburgh - Saturday November 10th

[TonyGosling]

It appears something called the
London Truth Society
will be staging this event in London

[TonyGosling]

here it is again

http://www.bilderberg-mirror.org.uk/TarpleyFlyer.pdf

keeps disappearing

please call or email me if you can't see the .pdf at the top of this topic

some can, some can't

[scubadiver]

Excuse my ignorance here. What is the purpose of the ticketline? Can't I pay on the door?

[TonyGosling]

Hi scuba

Excuse my ignorance here. What is the purpose of the ticketline? Can't I pay on the door?

To reseve tickets - since the venues are fairly small for such a big issue

[B]

Webster's London host on November 5th is a new entity called the Radical History Group, let's hope Webster gives that a good send-off! Greatly needed as most historical writing ignores the elements of political trickery and covert agendas.

I have ordered a supply of Webster's seminal book "9/11 Synthetic Terror" (latest edition) for the purposes of the tour, if any organisers want to acquire some copies for sale please email me b.mckenzie@btinternet.com.

[theninja]

Poster and a5 version can download from:

A4 Poster Version:
http://www322.pair.com/thewave/givemeso ... 911_a4.pdf

A5 Double sided Version:
http://www322.pair.com/thewave/givemeso ... 0flyer.pdf

[TonyGosling]

Suggested Press Release for the tour

please embellish add and alter if you wish

Please circulate by fax and email to all local media and as many nationals as you can manage, then follow up after day or two with a phone call to see if the most appropriate person has got it. Particularly make sure to speak to all your local radio stations. There is no harm in the nationals getting several Press Releases.


17Oct07 - PRESS RELEASE – From Guy Fawkes to 911, 400 Years of State Sponsored Terror
U.S. 'Terrorologist' tours Britain

Since 9/11, evidence has come to light that contradicts that day's infamous terrorist attack. American historian Webster Tarpley argues that this is nothing new, serious inconsistencies have been associated with terror attacks for hundreds of years throughout the Western world.

Whilst much post 9/11 evidence has been well sourced it has trickled out, having far less impact than the official narrative which holds Islamic fanatics entirely responsible. The end result is that press and public are left confused and disorientated by a lack of resolution to one of the biggest stories of our age. Terrorology is a growing discipline that seeks to bring academic rigour and reasoned argument to analysing this highly emotive subject.

Author of two books about connections between the US state and organised crime Tarpley scours the world for answers to the growing mountain of contradictions about 9/11 and develops an alternative account which counts Islamic ‘extremists’ among the victims. He finds evidence for the roots of 9/11 in the Western establishment, what he calls a 'rogue network' embedded in the secret state and military apparatus.

Amongst the unanswered questions Tarpley addresses are why…
 the US Air Force for up to one-and-a-half hours failed to intercept hijacked airliners.
 there was no apparent wreckage of an airliner at the Pentagon.
 ‘Put options’ on United Airlines and American Airlines shares placed before 9/1 were traced back to the Executive Director of the CIA.
 Building 7 at the WTC site in Manhattan collapsed without being hit by a plane.

And he goes on to ask is the “War on Terror” really an Orwellian programme designed to take away peoples’ hard won civil liberties?

Tarpley's analysis comes as music to the ears of the growing number of Britons uncomfortable about the suspension of habeas corpus and the racist overtones of internment of Muslims.

Notes
Contacts: Tony Gosling 07786 952037, Martin Summers 07730 679894, Adrian Connock 07971 836689 and local contacts at each venue (see below).
Webster will be available for interview in each venue city of the tour (see below) from roughly 2pm on the appropriate day. He will be in London from about midday on Saturday 4th November and leaves Glasgow on Sunday 12th November for Milan where the Italian translation of ‘911 Synthetic Terror’ is being launched.

Tour schedule
Tickets £5.00 donation on a strictly first come-first served basis. No-one turned away due to lack of funds.
LONDON, Monday 5th November, 7pm - St. John’s Church, Waterloo Road, London, SE1 8TY. (by Waterloo Main Line Stn.) - Ticketline – 07947 593825
OXFORD, Tuesday 6th November, 7pm - Council Chamber, Town Hall, St Aldates', Oxford, OX1 1BX, Ticketline – 07714 364140
BRISTOL, Wednesday 7th November, 7pm - QEH Theatre, Jacob's Wells Road, Bristol. BS8 1JX - Ticketline – 07786 952037
LEEDS, Thursday 8th November, 7pm - Lecture Theatre B2, Lesley Silver Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Civic Quarter Campus, Calverley Street, Leeds, LS1 3HE. - Ticketline –07733 323841
LANCASTER, Friday 9th November, 7pm - Hugh Pollard Lecture Theatre, St Martin’s College, Cumbria University, Bowerham Road, Lancaster LA1 3JD - Ticketline – 01524 388868
EDINBURGH, Saturday 10th November, 7pm - Friends Meeting House, 7 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh, EH1 2JL - Ticketline – 07809 365609

Biography
Webster Griffin Tarpley is an activist and historian best known for his George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography (1992), which has become an underground classic.
An expert on international terrorism with decades of experience, he directed the study Chi ha ucciso Aldo Moro? (Who Killed Aldo Moro?) which was commissioned by a member of the Italian government and published in Rome in 1978. [Aldo Moro was an ex-prime minister of Italy who was murdered by the "Red Brigades," who were ultimately found out to be a front for a fascist state terror group.]
Against Oligarchy, a collection of Tarpley's essays and speeches, appeared on the Internet in 1996. He also wrote Surviving the Cataclysm (1999), an analysis of the world financial crisis.
In 2005, Tarpley's ‘9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA’ gained a following and is now going into a fourth edition. On October 7, 2006, Amazon.com's top non-fiction book reviewer, Robert David Steele, called it "the strongest of the 770+ books I have reviewed here at Amazon."
Tarpley has appeared on CNN Crossfire, FOX News, Charlie Rose, talk radio, and cable access television across North America.

Websites
Tarpley’s own website - www.tarpley.net
Progressive Press, Tarpley’s publisher - www.waronfreedom.org
Tarpley on 911 blogger.com - http://911blogger.com/taxonomy/term/100

[Infowarrior_uk]

This is cool , just finished reading his 9/11 synthetic terror book too. I will probably be there on the 9th november in Lancaster, hope to see you there Tony

[TonyGosling]

Check out Webster here
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzVFZUNNGp8[/youtube]

STARTS about 11:45 and ENDS 19:00 most of the rest is, shall I say, not so good

This is yet another attempt to draw togehter the energy of my family. Nico Haupt and Harold Channer to see if we can glimpse something beyond a non-labor based theory of wealth (Harold's baby) and even a non-ownership theory (mine) roll-in of outakes taken after Webster Tarpley was interviewed by Harold and lets his hair down about all economic theory being an apology for the rich

[TonyGosling]

Updated Version of Tarpley Press Release

PRESS RELEASE – From Guy Fawkes to 9/11, 400 Years of State Sponsored Terror
Princeton Educated U.S. Historian tours Britain

This Guy Fawkes night sees the start of a controversial UK speaking tour by a Princeton educated American writer. He argues that Muslims are more the victims of terrorism than the perpetrators and that historically the ‘enemies’ of the day have been scapegoated as ‘terrorists’.
Webster Tarpley argues that Guy Fawkes was a victim of Lord Cecil’s anti-Catholic ‘sting operation’ and that similar tactics are still being used by Western intelligence services and military today.
Since the events of 9/11 and 7/7, evidence has trickled out that contradicts the official version of events. Many people now believe these incidents were in fact war provocations, orchestrated from within the Western military industrial complex.
The press and public have been left confused and disorientated by a lack of resolution to some of the biggest stories of our age. ‘Terrorology’ is a growing discipline that seeks to bring academic rigour and reasoned argument to analysing this highly emotive subject.
Throughout his two books ‘The Unauthorised Biography of G. H. W.Bush’ and ‘911 Synthetic Terror Made in USA’, Tarpley links the U.S. state with organised crime. He scours the world for answers to the contradictions surrounding 9/11 and his controversial conclusions are gathering support, even amongst eyewitnesses and relatives of the victims.
He finds hard evidence for the roots of 9/11 within the Western establishment, which he refers to as a 'rogue network' embedded in the secret state and military apparatus.
Amongst the unanswered questions Tarpley addresses are why…
 The US Air Force for up to one-and-a-half hours failed to intercept hijacked airliners.
 The Pentagon ‘crash site’ was inconsistent with the impact of an airliner.
 ‘Put options’ on United Airlines and American Airlines shares placed before 9/11 were traced back to the Executive Director of the CIA.
 Building 7 at the World Trade Centre in Manhattan ‘collapsed’ at freefall speed without being hit by a plane.
And he goes on to ask, is the “War on Terror” really an Orwellian programme designed to take away ordinary peoples’ hard won civil liberties?
Tarpley's analysis comes as music to the ears for the growing number of Britons uncomfortable about the suspension of habeas corpus and the racist overtones of internment and demonisation of Muslims.

Notes
Contacts: Tony Gosling 07786 952037, Martin Summers 07730 679894, Adrian Connock 07971 836689 and local contacts at each venue (see below).
Webster will be available for interview in each venue city of the tour (see below) from roughly 2pm on the appropriate day. He will be in London from about midday on Saturday 4th November and leaves Glasgow on Sunday 12th November for Milan where the Italian translation of ‘911 Synthetic Terror’ is being launched.

Tour schedule
Tickets £5.00 donation on a strictly first come-first served basis. No-one turned away due to lack of funds.
LONDON, Monday 5th November, 7pm - St. John’s Church, Waterloo Road, London, SE1 8TY. (by Waterloo Main Line Stn.) - Ticketline – 07947 593825
OXFORD, Tuesday 6th November, 7pm - Council Chamber, Town Hall, St Aldates', Oxford, OX1 1BX, Ticketline – 07714 364140
BRISTOL, Wednesday 7th November, 7pm - QEH Theatre, Jacob's Wells Road, Bristol. BS8 1JX - Ticketline – 07786 952037
LEEDS, Thursday 8th November, 7pm - Lecture Theatre B2, Lesley Silver Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Civic Quarter Campus, Calverley Street, Leeds, LS1 3HE. - Ticketline –07733 323841
LANCASTER, Friday 9th November, 7pm - Hugh Pollard Lecture Theatre, St Martin’s College, Cumbria University, Bowerham Road, Lancaster LA1 3JD - Ticketline – 01524 388868
EDINBURGH, Saturday 10th November, 7pm - Friends Meeting House, 7 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh, EH1 2JL - Ticketline – 07809 365609

Biography
Webster Griffin Tarpley is an activist and historian best known for his George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography (1992), which has become an underground classic.
An expert on international terrorism with decades of experience, he directed the study Chi ha ucciso Aldo Moro? (Who Killed Aldo Moro?) which was commissioned by a member of the Italian government and published in Rome in 1978. [Aldo Moro was an ex-prime minister of Italy who was murdered by the "Red Brigades," who were ultimately found out to be a front for a fascist state terror group.]
Against Oligarchy, a collection of Tarpley's essays and speeches, appeared on the Internet in 1996. He also wrote Surviving the Cataclysm (1999), an analysis of the world financial crisis.
In 2005, Tarpley's ‘9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA’ gained a following and is now going into a fourth edition. On October 7, 2006, Amazon.com's top non-fiction book reviewer, Robert David Steele, called it "the strongest of the 770+ books I have reviewed here at Amazon."
Tarpley has appeared on CNN Crossfire, FOX News, Charlie Rose, talk radio, and cable access television across North America.

Websites
Tarpley’s own website - www.tarpley.net
Progressive Press, Tarpley’s publisher - www.waronfreedom.org
Tarpley on 911 blogger.com - http://911blogger.com/taxonomy/term/100
A3 Tarpley Tour Poster: http://www322.pair.com/thewave/givemeso ... Guyfawkes_ 911_a4.pdf
A5 Tarpley Tour Flyer: http://www322.pair.com/thewave/givemeso ... Guyfawkes_ 911_a6%20flyer.pdf





PRESS RELEASE – From Guy Fawkes to 9/11, 400 Years of State Sponsored Terror

U.S. 'Terrorologist' tours Britain

This Guy Fawkes night sees the start of a controversial UK speaking tour by a Harvard educated American writer. He argues that Muslims are more the victims of terrorism than the perpetrators and that historically the ‘enemies’ of the day have been scapegoated as ‘terrorists’.
Webster Tarpley argues that Guy Fawkes was a victim of Lord Cecil’s anti-Catholic ‘sting operation’ and that similar tactics are still being used by Western intelligence services and military today.
Since the events of 9/11 and 7/7, evidence has trickled out that contradicts the official version of events. Many people now believe these incidents were in fact war provocations, orchestrated from within the Western military industrial complex.
The press and public have been left confused and disorientated by a lack of resolution to some of the biggest stories of our age. ‘Terrorology’ is a growing discipline that seeks to bring academic rigour and reasoned argument to analysing this highly emotive subject.
Throughout his two books ‘The Unauthorised Biography of G. H. W.Bush’ and ‘911 Synthetic Terror Made in USA’, Tarpley links the U.S. state with organised crime. He scours the world for answers to the contradictions surrounding 9/11 and his controversial conclusions are gathering support, even amongst eyewitnesses and relatives of the victims.
He finds hard evidence for the roots of 9/11 within the Western establishment, which he refers to as a 'rogue network' embedded in the secret state and military apparatus.
Amongst the unanswered questions Tarpley addresses are why…
 The US Air Force for up to one-and-a-half hours failed to intercept hijacked airliners.
 The Pentagon ‘crash site’ was inconsistent with the impact of an airliner.
 ‘Put options’ on United Airlines and American Airlines shares placed before 9/11 were traced back to the Executive Director of the CIA.
 Building 7 at the World Trade Centre in Manhattan ‘collapsed’ at freefall speed without being hit by a plane.
And he goes on to ask, is the “War on Terror” really an Orwellian programme designed to take away ordinary peoples’ hard won civil liberties?
Tarpley's analysis comes as music to the ears for the growing number of Britons uncomfortable about the suspension of habeas corpus and the racist overtones of internment and demonisation of Muslims.

Notes
Contacts: Tony Gosling 07786 952037, Martin Summers 07730 679894, Adrian Connock 07971 836689 and local contacts at each venue (see below).
Webster will be available for interview in each venue city of the tour (see below) from roughly 2pm on the appropriate day. He will be in London from about midday on Saturday 4th November and leaves Glasgow on Sunday 12th November for Milan where the Italian translation of ‘911 Synthetic Terror’ is being launched.

Tour schedule
Tickets £5.00 donation on a strictly first come-first served basis. No-one turned away due to lack of funds.
LONDON, Monday 5th November, 7pm - St. John’s Church, Waterloo Road, London, SE1 8TY. (by Waterloo Main Line Stn.) - Ticketline – 07947 593825
OXFORD, Tuesday 6th November, 7pm - Council Chamber, Town Hall, St Aldates', Oxford, OX1 1BX, Ticketline – 07714 364140
BRISTOL, Wednesday 7th November, 7pm - QEH Theatre, Jacob's Wells Road, Bristol. BS8 1JX - Ticketline – 07786 952037
LEEDS, Thursday 8th November, 7pm - Lecture Theatre B2, Lesley Silver Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Civic Quarter Campus, Calverley Street, Leeds, LS1 3HE. - Ticketline –07733 323841
LANCASTER, Friday 9th November, 7pm - Hugh Pollard Lecture Theatre, St Martin’s College, Cumbria University, Bowerham Road, Lancaster LA1 3JD - Ticketline – 01524 388868
EDINBURGH, Saturday 10th November, 7pm - Friends Meeting House, 7 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh, EH1 2JL - Ticketline – 07809 365609

Biography
Webster Griffin Tarpley is an activist and historian best known for his George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography (1992), which has become an underground classic.
An expert on international terrorism with decades of experience, he directed the study Chi ha ucciso Aldo Moro? (Who Killed Aldo Moro?) which was commissioned by a member of the Italian government and published in Rome in 1978. [Aldo Moro was an ex-prime minister of Italy who was murdered by the "Red Brigades," who were ultimately found out to be a front for a fascist state terror group.]
Against Oligarchy, a collection of Tarpley's essays and speeches, appeared on the Internet in 1996. He also wrote Surviving the Cataclysm (1999), an analysis of the world financial crisis.
In 2005, Tarpley's ‘9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA’ gained a following and is now going into a fourth edition. On October 7, 2006, Amazon.com's top non-fiction book reviewer, Robert David Steele, called it "the strongest of the 770+ books I have reviewed here at Amazon."
Tarpley has appeared on CNN Crossfire, FOX News, Charlie Rose, talk radio, and cable access television across North America.

Websites
Tarpley’s own website - www.tarpley.net
Progressive Press, Tarpley’s publisher - www.waronfreedom.org
Tarpley on 911 blogger.com - http://911blogger.com/taxonomy/term/100

Tour Poster download
http://www322.pair.com/thewave/givemeso ... Guyfawkes_ 911_a4.pdf

Tour Flyer download
http://www322.pair.com/thewave/givemeso ... Guyfawkes_ 911_a6%20flyer.pdf

[TonyGosling]

Your collective effort would be appreciated here - please download and circulate ths latest version of the Press Release to as much mainstream media as possible. Particularly the nationals but also the locals.

If they get it twice or three or four times even that's not problem. Susie Walker at the Daily Mail features desk has said a very definite 'No we're not interested' so she deserves at least a couple more Press Releases to prick her conscience!

cheers,

Tony

[truthseeker john]

Check out Webster here
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzVFZUNNGp8[/youtube]

STARTS about 11:45 and ENDS 19:00 most of the rest is, shall I say, not so good

This is yet another attempt to draw togehter the energy of my family. Nico Haupt and Harold Channer to see if we can glimpse something beyond a non-labor based theory of wealth (Harold's baby) and even a non-ownership theory (mine) roll-in of outakes taken after Webster Tarpley was interviewed by Harold and lets his hair down about all economic theory being an apology for the rich

"I proceed with the pessimism of the ‘intelligence’ and the optimism of the will. Figure that out.” "… If you want, I could prove to you that the world is done but I don’t choose to act on that, I act on the other side – I’m trying to stop it, I’m trying to save it.”

[TonyGosling]

Webster arrived safely this morning at Heathrow courtesy of British Airways.

[ian neal]

This thread is to discuss Webster's tour not the Kennebunkport report

The appropriate thread to discuss this controversy is

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11031

and I have removed recent posts to this thread

Thanks

[Larry O'Hara]

interesting debating style Mr Griffin has: after I attended the talk in London tonight, in part to take issue with his complicity in the framing/arrest of Italian Leftist Toni Negri, when I approached him prior to the talk, he seemed to not know who Negri was. Afterwards, he dealt with possibly tricky questions by the simple expedient of giving us an uninterrupted 2 hrs 41 minutes monologue--with no time for any questions at all. Was I impressed by his ersatz erudition? Not at all. Was I intimidated by his gutless refusal to take questions? Not in the slightest. On the assumption the inability to organise a public meeting properly was merely inefficiency, I ask the rhetorical question, if these people can't organise a public meeting properly, how do they plan to seriously effect an impeachment (of Bush/Cheney)? If there is no organisational capacity to notice when the clock has reached nearly 3 hours, preventing the sheeple from contributing, why should anybody take this cult seriously when they seize on minute temporal inconsistencies as regards 9/11 itself? They shouldn't. More detailed analysis of the Kennebunkport forger's monologue will follow on the 9/11 cultwatch blog imminently. Goodnight children!

[andyb]

Larry, it was Mr Tarpley, not Mr Griffin

You really do fancy yourself if you think he talked himself out of answering a question for you. He was available after the talk for questions if you'd hung around. I also thought you were now a fellow cultist after stating you supported a new investigation into 9/11 anyway.

I look forward to your report although the lack of comments on your site does make me wonder why you bother at times. Maybe I'll add a comment for you this time

[Larry O'Hara]

Larry, it was Mr Tarpley, not Mr Griffin

You really do fancy yourself if you think he talked himself out of answering a question for you. He was available after the talk for questions if you'd hung around. I also thought you were now a fellow cultist after stating you supported a new investigation into 9/11 anyway.

I look forward to your report although the lack of comments on your site does make me wonder why you bother at times. Maybe I'll add a comment for you this time

1) It was an undeniable fact he spoke for 2 hrs 41 minutes, and no questions wre allowed--disgraceful. Not the way any movement confident in itself would operate.

2) the man has three names--more than enough.

3) That I have no objection to a proper investigation of 9/11 does not make me a cultist--there are far more important matters to be addressed. Obssession with 9/11 is a dead-end,

4) The proper forum for engaging with an unapologetic red-baiter like WTG was in the public domain: which is why I attended the meeting in the first place. Not allowing any public debate at all is the sort of thing..a cult engages in. Wriggle out of it as you might, the facts speak for themselves.

[marky 54]

Not allowing any public debate at all is the sort of thing..a cult engages in.

well im glad you reconise allowing debate is not what a cult would do.

thank you for providing your opinon and thoughts on the debate.

[scubadiver]

Larry, you obviously didn't understand the purpose of the talk.

[andyb]

1) It was an undeniable fact he spoke for 2 hrs 41 minutes, and no questions wre allowed--disgraceful. Not the way any movement confident in itself would operate.

2) the man has three names--more than enough.

3) That I have no objection to a proper investigation of 9/11 does not make me a cultist--there are far more important matters to be addressed. Obssession with 9/11 is a dead-end,

4) The proper forum for engaging with an unapologetic red-baiter like WTG was in the public domain: which is why I attended the meeting in the first place. Not allowing any public debate at all is the sort of thing..a cult engages in. Wriggle out of it as you might, the facts speak for themselves.

1) I haven't seen anyone deny his talk was that long. It wasn't solely on 9/11 anyway. The venue was booked until 10. I also would have liked a q+a as they make talks better and I know that the organisers of the tour are going to try and get him to cut the talk down for the rest of the tour, it was his first time giving the talk. Also, he is not the movement but an individual giving a talk and it was not even organised by the 9/11 campaign anyway.

2) I have a middle name as do many other people.

3) I don't know any campaigners who think 9/11 is the only issue. What are the other important issues we should look at?

4) nothing was stopping you interviewing him with a recorder and posting that on the net for an ever wider audience to hear

[ian neal]

Lack of Q&A: c***-up or conspiracy?

The reason the 'chair' allowed Webster to go on was because he was taking his cue for what time it was from the large clock in the hall, which whilst correct at the start of the evening stopped or seriously slowed down during the talk. So in this instance I have to say c***-up

[kbo234]

Lack of Q&A: c***-up or conspiracy?

The reason the 'chair' allowed Webster to go on was because he was taking his cue for what time it was from the large clock in the hall, which whilst correct at the start of the evening stopped or seriously slowed down during the talk. So in this instance I have to say c***-up

Yes, most of us were thrown by that stupid clock (that obviously did start to run slow during the talk). The chair announced 45 minutes of questions before someone pointed out what very few had realised........that the clock was now incorrect......maybe a higher power was protecting the company from the wreckers like Mr. O'Hara in our midst.

It was a brilliant presentation, I thought. Large and diverse crown. Majority were not 9/11 truth activists. Lots of new information to me including his detailed analysis of the 'gunpowder' (or cornpowder) plot.

By the way, I understand that Mr O'Hara and Mr Stott, who sat together last night, have been hounding Annie Machon and David Shayler ever since they left MI5. Although Annie and David came under attack from many quarters no others have consistently stuck to this task like these two 'leftists'.

Now their sights are aimed at 9/11 Truth and brave embattled figures like Webster Tarpley.

MI5 or what? Come on chaps, what's your game?

[kbo234]

....Webster Tarpley was interviewed by Harold and lets his hair down about all economic theory being an apology for the rich.

He's not the only one who thinks so:

http://benjaminfulford.com/socalled.html

[PaulStott]

By the way, I understand that Mr O'Hara and Mr Stott, who sat together last night, have been hounding Annie Machon and David Shayler ever since they left MI5. Although Annie and David came under attack from many quarters no others have consistently stuck to this task like these two 'leftists'.

Perhaps you would like to explain your 'hounding' claim, and back it up with evidence?

Our approach has always been to ask hard questions of messrs Shayler and Machon. Indeed if a few people had copied our approach, you might not have been left with so much egg on your face as Shayler led the 'truth' movement through a succession of embarrassments (No Plane Theory, rampant anti-semitism etc) before his eventual 'collapse'.

That you get into bed with an old red-baiter like WGT shows you have a real nerve questionning anyone else's leftist credentials. This is after all an American writer who boasts of the role he played in getting one of Italy's most important socialists, Toni Negri, jailed.

Perhaps you could tell us whether you agree with WGT's actions or not?