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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:06 pm
by Killtown
chek wrote:
Killtown wrote:Btw, 19 Rector St building is still M.I.A. in this video.
Only if you're really determined not to see it KT.
Well then point it out to me.

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:36 pm
by gruts
stelios wrote: Best place to get the original videos is http://archive.org
cheers for this link! never seen it before.... 8)

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:57 pm
by chek
Killtown wrote:
chek wrote:
Killtown wrote:Btw, 19 Rector St building is still M.I.A. in this video.
Only if you're really determined not to see it KT.
Well then point it out to me.
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewt ... sc&start=0

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:09 am
by Killtown
chek wrote:
Killtown wrote:
chek wrote: Only if you're really determined not to see it KT.
Well then point it out to me.
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewt ... sc&start=0
Nope, still don't see it.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:20 am
by zark
chek wrote:
Killtown wrote:
chek wrote: Only if you're really determined not to see it KT.
Well then point it out to me.
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewt ... sc&start=0
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

chek, you are making yourself see things.

Rector St building is not in that video.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:42 am
by chek
You're looking for the spire, aren' t you Zark?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:07 am
by EmptyBee
Fred managed to make 19 Rector Street "disappear" in one of his videos (which is very close to finding the original location of the CNN shot). I did not get a response when I pointed this out.

This is the screenshot from Fred's "boat trip" video, which aimed to establish that 19 Rector Street was impossible to hide.

Image

It's taken a little to the left of the CNN shot but the angle of elevation is about right, and of course the field of view is less zoomed in.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:14 am
by Stefan
EmptyBee,
I pointed this out when he first posted the boat video, just like I pointed out that you can make out the top of rector street through the top of the foilage on the CNN shot.

The problem with these guys is that holding onto their pre-conceived view is more important to them than the truth.

My post was ignored and he continued to claim for another five pages worth of posts that the shot was impossible.

Just like they ignored the poster (can't remember his name now) who pointed out that standing in exactly the same position and changing lenses would radically change the composition of the back ground of the shot, making his wandering about with a cheap camcorder worthless.

They just can't back down.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:16 am
by EmptyBee
Just to clarify: this was the video I took the above screenshot from:

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=AkoiD_wTX_Y[/youtube]

Fred spends most of the video zoomed in on the top of the Whitehall building attempting to show that relative position of the red building behind and above it and 19 Rector Street and the black building (I think it's the Deutsche Bank building, 130 Liberty Street) behind it couldn't be hidden from view from any angle, only to zoom out at the crucial moment when both buildings disappear behind the tree-line as the boat comes in to dock.

This was all covered in this thread.

Despite all this (and other rebuttals) Fred continued to blithely assert that his video proved TV Fakery and that we were therefore all shills or the same person.

Incidentally the Deutsche Bank building is currently scheduled for structural deconstruction due to the amount of contamination and debris that hit it on 9/11. So it won't be useful for reconstructing 9/11 footage much longer, unless of course Fred decides to start a new "missing building" project once it's gone.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:52 pm
by Killtown
Is somebody ever going to show me where the 19 Rector St. building is in the Hezarkhani, I'm mean "Rose Arce" video?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:10 pm
by John White
Only you can allow yourself to see the truth Killtown

As for the rest of us , hopefully we can remain compassionate towards the strange place you've made for yourself to "live" in

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:18 pm
by Killtown
John White wrote:Only you can allow yourself to see the truth Killtown

As for the rest of us , hopefully we can remain compassionate towards the strange place you've made for yourself to "live" in
Hey Ian, can I become moderator so I can insult at will without the threat of being banned?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:30 pm
by John White
Compassion insults you? A strange place to live indeed

Still I'm not the one providing images saying "Hey! these pictures prove this building doesnt exist!" when the building is right there staring at you, and then disseminating that bizarre conclusion around the internet, followed up by "why do so many people not agree with me?"

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:53 pm
by Killtown
Still waiting for someone to show me where 19 Rector St. building is.

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:10 am
by John White
Hardly suprising

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:07 pm
by Killtown
Still waiting.