Info about aspartame free squash drinks?

[Dogsmilk]

A friend of mine is a mum of two young children and she's learned of and is concerned about the danger of aspartame in their diet.
Her kids love squash and she doesn't feel she can cut it out of their diet totally. She says she scoured the shelves at Tesco but couldn't find a single brand of squash that doesn't contain aspartame. She asked customer services and got blank looks.
I never drink squash myself and can't say I know any safe brands - any suggestions that come to mind regarding aspartame free squash drinks would be greatly appreciated.
Ta.

[mark_e]

Juice a lime *, mix with a tablespoon of honey and add a litre or so of water. Takes 2 minutes to prepare, tastes good and actually has good things in it too. you can make up a jug and keep it in the fridge

* or orange or lemon

[chek]

Looks like the Co-op may be one source for commercial drinks:

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:DbTw ... cd=2&gl=uk


I should probably have tiny-URL'd that but I'm in a hurry. Sorry

[Reflecter]

Robinsons High Juice range and Rok's Organix are two Aspartame free brands we use with the 4 kids.

Whether there is anything else bad in them I simply dont know.

Thanks for the link Chek always good to have more choices.

[Dogsmilk]

Thank you for your assistance in preserving young brains.

[blackcat]

What's so good about squash? Fresh, not from concentrate, drinks cost only 75 per litre from Aldi and you can get orange, apple, grapefruit etc. At other stores fresh, from concentrate, drinks are about the same price and have no additives at all!!!

[karlos]

I have exactly the same problem only different. I alerted my folks to the dangers of Apartame and more recently the additional dangers of High fructose corn starch.
But unfortunately they still buy these products.

Old fashioned drinks like cordials are generally made from just sugar no other sweeteners and sugar is the less dangerous as the body metabolises sugar easily.
There are still quite a few squashes that are sweetener free so it is just a matter of when you go to the shops read all the ingredients.
I do this myself.
Natural colours, natural sugar.
Sucralose is a safe alternative sweetener.

i must agree with my friend Blackcat, why not simply buy fruit juice it is quite cheap these days and although processed more healthy than any squash.

[Dogsmilk]

I think her kids just prefer squash and can't see why they shouldn't be able to drink it.
How do you explain to a seven year old the tasty drinks they sell in shops her friends drink are full of poison? Particularly when you gave it to them before you found out you can't necessarily trust the safety of food products, something you used to take for granted.
It's a crazy world when you have to work hard to find non toxic beverages on the supermarket shelves.

[paul wright]

Sucralose is a safe alternative sweetener.

Is it really, stelios. I think it's chemically similar to some pesticides and best avoided.
The safe sweeteners are apple, grape, agave juices, xylitol and stevia (-the best).

[acrobat74]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy

FDA approval process

Some critics of Aspartame use have criticized its approval process specifically; they note that the head of the FDA, Jere E. Goyan, was removed from his post on the first day of Ronald Reagan's presidency (1981).

Previously, Goyan refused to approve the legalization of aspartame, due to the studies documenting increase of cancers in rats.

Reagan appointed Arthur Hayes, MD, (FDA Commissioner 1981-1983) Commissioner, who legalized aspartame a year later.

Reagan supporter Donald Rumsfeld was president and later CEO of G. D. Searle & Company from 1977 to 1985.

In November 1983 Hayes was under fire for accepting corporate gifts. He quit and joined Searle's public-relations firm as senior medical advisor.

Searle lawyer Robert B. Shapiro, renamed aspartame NutraSweet. Monsanto purchased Searle. Rumsfeld received a $12 million bonus. Shapiro later became Monsanto president.

Several members of the FDA board left their jobs after stevia (aspartame's main competitor then) was banned in 1991. They were all hired at Nutrasweet in higher paying jobs, according to national records.

Dr. Michael Friedman quit the FDA when Jane Henney was selected to become the permanent FDA commissioner (1999). Friedman elected to sign with G. D. Searle as a senior vice president at a purported $500,000 a year. He later accepted a position with Monsanto.

[karlos]

Sucralose is a safe alternative sweetener.

Is it really, stelios. I think it's chemically similar to some pesticides and best avoided.
The safe sweeteners are apple, grape, agave juices, xylitol and stevia (-the best).

Yes you are correct.
I was merely pointing out that sucralose is safer than aspartame or high fructose corn starch
xylotol is good but expensive about £9 a pound
stevia is reportedly the ultimate best one though you are 100% spot on

[Mark Gobell]

Sympathy with your quest for Aspartme free cordials Dogs.

I've been through the shelves too and it's getting more difficult to find aspartame free anything these days.

Roses Lime cordial is one I settle on - no aspartame.

[blackcat]

I think her kids just prefer squash and can't see why they shouldn't be able to drink it.

Then buy some fresh orange and dilute it with water. Add sugar if necessary and tell the little buggers its squash!

[telecasterisation]

Of course, it all means very little if you mix 'good' squash with straight tap water. Chlorine, THMs, chloriform, chloramines, cryptosporidium and giardia lamblia, cysts, fluoride, pesticides, toxic chemicals, heavy metals, MTBEs, nitrates, all are potentially there.

Interacting with the environment in a healthy and cost-effective way can be difficult for the 'average' household - an effective domestic water filtration system is around £1500.

[mark_e]

We looked into this. A kitchen reverse osmosis unit for drinking water should cost about £250-£300. if you drink bottled water, it will pay for itself in about a year (running costs probably around £100 a year)

[Mark Gobell]

Cheers mark_e.

I spend, I'd say about £4 a week on bottled water.

The only thing I use tap water for is washing, me and the dishes.

You might also want to think about the "passive" effects of all that chlorine in your lungs from bathroom steam, especially showers.

Should we ban them on health grounds ?

[Dogsmilk]

I think her kids just prefer squash and can't see why they shouldn't be able to drink it.

Then buy some fresh orange and dilute it with water. Add sugar if necessary and tell the little buggers its squash!

She said she tried it and it didn't go down well. Good idea though. I think kids just end up programed to want certain things and that particular sticky taste.

Still, with all the problems with tapwater too, how can you possibly win? Makes me think back years to when I lived in Worcester for a while. When I ran a bath, the bathroom smelled like a * swimming pool.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

[uselesseater]

Cheers mark_e.

I spend, I'd say about £4 a week on bottled water.

The only thing I use tap water for is washing, me and the dishes.

You might also want to think about the "passive" effects of all that chlorine in your lungs from bathroom steam, especially showers.

Should we ban them on health grounds ?

Yes, all this * in the water needs to be banned immediately.

Anyone got links to a domestic RO unit?

What about the high quality gravity filters? Aren't they any good?

[Mark Gobell]

http://www.freshlysqueezedwater.org.uk/watercontent.htm

Fish are changing sex . . .

Fertility rates are in massive decline . . .

Men having breast reduction operations . . .

[uselesseater]

http://www.freshlysqueezedwater.org.uk/watercontent.htm
Fish are changing sex . . .

Hormones in the water?

Fertility rates are in massive decline . . .

Cling film, EM pollution?

No doubt it will be blamed on STDs i.e. our fault again.

Men having breast reduction operations . . .

Xeno-eostrogen from drinking out of plastic cups?

[Mark Gobell]

Yep all those too.

Whilst not forgetting the millions of ickle tablets swallowed everyday by millions of women since the 1960's then flushed down the loo back into our taps . . .

[Disco_Destroyer]

Cheers mark_e.

I spend, I'd say about £4 a week on bottled water.

The only thing I use tap water for is washing, me and the dishes.

You might also want to think about the "passive" effects of all that chlorine in your lungs from bathroom steam, especially showers.

Should we ban them on health grounds ?

Yes, all this * in the water needs to be banned immediately.

Anyone got links to a domestic RO unit?

What about the high quality gravity filters? Aren't they any good?

My Dad used to install RO and water softerners, I think he still has contacts etc but we're not really on speaking terms at the mo. If I here anything I'll let you know RO= Reverse Osmosis to the unaware
Water usage is pushed up by 4 times though unless they have improved greatly in the last 10 years!

[paul wright]

Hulda Clark's stuff is pretty reliable and reasonably priced.
To purify your tap water
http://www.drclark.com/pictures/watermaker.pdf

[karlos]

As i said before a few times the best filters are suppled by pureH2o who supply fully automatic filters. The only thing is they are quite pricey.
I have had one for over 4 years now and it have never broken down.

I also have a shower filter which cost about $79 by mail order from the us

basically water from the tap or the shower is poison and the more you avoid it the healthier you are.
Additives like msg, soya, artificial colours etc are also bad
as well as artificial sweetners
and the number one health damage is caused by margerine

So truth is a much wider subject than just 911, health is just as important.

[theninja]

I normal get Rocks Organic Squash which you can get from Asda, Tesco, and health shops

http://www.rocksorganic.com/rocksfullrange.htm

[telecasterisation]

We looked into this. A kitchen reverse osmosis unit for drinking water should cost about £250-£300. if you drink bottled water, it will pay for itself in about a year (running costs probably around £100 a year)

Not that I disbelieve what you claim - but can you supply a link to a sub -£300 domestic reverse osmosis system?

[mark_e]

how about this?

http://www.pozzani.co.uk/water-treatmen ... Qgod2HBc_g

i was looking a couple of years ago, they were about £200 then. if you google for it you'll find a few. no need to ro all water though, activated charcoal on the rest should do the trick.

[paul wright]

We looked into this. A kitchen reverse osmosis unit for drinking water should cost about £250-£300. if you drink bottled water, it will pay for itself in about a year (running costs probably around £100 a year)

Not that I disbelieve what you claim - but can you supply a link to a sub -£300 domestic reverse osmosis system?

Clark's watermaker mini is 189 euros or £133

[Reflecter]

In a prior thread here, I believe regarding Orgone, Browns gas etc someone posted the following link http://www.solaqua.com/ to solar based water purifying stills. The appear quite cheap in kit form if they are importable.

[rodin]

A friend of mine is a mum of two young children and she's learned of and is concerned about the danger of aspartame in their diet.
Her kids love squash and she doesn't feel she can cut it out of their diet totally. She says she scoured the shelves at Tesco but couldn't find a single brand of squash that doesn't contain aspartame. She asked customer services and got blank looks.
I never drink squash myself and can't say I know any safe brands - any suggestions that come to mind regarding aspartame free squash drinks would be greatly appreciated.
Ta.

They will learn to like water. No fluoride, though. (A dad)