benjaminwebb1983 wrote:Lyceum wrote:How the heck did the nose of the plane pierce through one side of the building and then exit the other side of the building with a perfectly parallel precision?
See 4:36 of this film.
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Wake up and let us start investigating what really took place on 9/11.
I am new to this forum...but have been reading a lot about 9/11 conspiracy theories...to be honest i have never paid much attention to the no planes theory...as i thought that it seemed unbelievable...but after seeing these videos and i watched all of them i am really starting to wonder if there was any planes that day...I mean there just seems to be so much evidence that there might not have been that now i am really wondering what did happen on 9/11...it seems that all what we seen in the media that day may have been one big lie...these videos really opened my eyes to a theory that before seeing them i had never even considered in my mind...
I guess now I will have to look more into this theory about the 9/11 Events
Ben
Hi Ben,
Welcome to the site.
Please don't fall into the trap of believing No Plane Theories (NPT). There is no evidence for it contrary to what Andrew Johnson will have you believe. In fact, what Mr Johnson fails to tell you is that most of the abuse (and bannings) on this site has come from advocates of NPT who, apparently frustrated at the lack of evidence, start name calling instead. (Although Andrew Johnson has revised his post above now and has removed the reference to abuse in case you're wondering why I've mentioned this. No doubt he realises it is easy to prove).
There have been many discussions on this issue which I suggest you look at carefully. The basic concept of NPT'ers is to show highly edited video footage where the planes have been deliberately removed. They then go onto argue that aluminium cannot cut through steel, ignoring completely the issues of scale, momentum, construction and structure of the planes versus the towers.
As a former architect, I understand the design of the towers reasonably well. The exterior walls were constructed of steel, hollow-square sectioned columns only 14" across. The steel used for these columns was less than an inch thick thus making the structure strong but lightweight (which is important to the discussion). These columns were then clad in aluminium. The columns were built off-site in small sections which were lifted onto site and bolted together. If you look at the photographs of the plane holes, the breaks in the outer steelwork are mostly at the connections between these sections, i.e. the enormous mass and momentum of each aircraft pushed the lightweight sections inward, breaking the bolts holding them together. The wing tip holes are likely to be cuts in the aluminium cladding only and not into the steel although the impression is of full impact.
Behind the walls were light-weight floor trusses composed of thin steel sections, metal decking and 4" of poured concrete as a screed. They would not have withstood a point load impacting them and would have been pushed apart or destroyed without much effort. Only the core structure of each tower was capable of stopping the momentum of the plane and that is what was witnessed. But the core was not solid and parts of the aircraft passed through the plasterboard walls of the core with relative ease. Again as witnessed.
Here is a picture of the outer wall sections during construction. The columns were not solid but hollow despite how they look here. You can see on the right hand picture the lightweight floor construction. Please bear in mind that these outer columns are just over a rulers length in depth!
Here is a graphic of the breaks in the south tower. You can see where the breaks are being mostly at the connections.
The NPT'ers will tell you that only explosives or a missile made these impressive plane like holes. One has to wonder how explsoives could have caused such shapes.
I can go on but please take some time to view what others have said before accepting NPT.
I hope you enjoy looking at the evidence.
James
