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How the heck did the nose of the plane pierce through one side of the building and then exit the other side of the building with a perfectly parallel precision?

See 4:36 of this film. http://www.livevideo.com/socialservice

Wake up and let us start investigating what really took place on 9/11.
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Lyceum wrote:How the heck did the nose of the plane pierce through one side of the building and then exit the other side of the building with a perfectly paralell precision?

See 4:36 of this film. http://www.livevideo.com/socialservice

Wake up and let us start investigating what really took place on 9/11.
How did the nose cone remain intact until vaporized by the fireball emerging from the South Tower? Umm, perhaps because it was not made of aluminium? :roll: Perhaps because the modified, remote-controlled jet plane had a nose cone whose casing was made of stellite alloy and packed with depleted uranium to make sure that some of the fuselage of the plane penetrated deeply into the tower so that the explosives on board generated maximum damage, thus making the ensuing collapse of the tower seem more plausible?

See how lack of knowledge and imagination of the no-planers blinds them to real possibilities other than their absurd, ad hoc TV fakery? Just because they cannot think of how things happened does not mean that it did not happen. Stuck within a paradigm set by their own naivety and lack of knowledge about what technology is available to the military, the no-planers create childish mirages everywhere in order to explain what their lack of understanding deludes them into believing is physically impossible.
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Micpsi wrote:
Lyceum wrote:How the heck did the nose of the plane pierce through one side of the building and then exit the other side of the building with a perfectly paralell precision?

See 4:36 of this film. http://www.livevideo.com/socialservice

Wake up and let us start investigating what really took place on 9/11.
How did the nose cone remain intact until vaporized by the fireball emerging from the South Tower? Umm, perhaps because it was not made of aluminium? :roll: Perhaps because the modified, remote-controlled jet plane had a nose cone whose casing was made of stellite alloy and packed with depleted uranium to make sure that some of the fuselage of the plane penetrated deeply into the tower so that the explosives on board generated maximum damage, thus making the ensuing collapse of the tower seem more plausible?

See how lack of knowledge and imagination of the no-planers blinds them to real possibilities other than their absurd, ad hoc TV fakery? Just because they cannot think of how things happened does not mean that it did not happen. Stuck within a paradigm set by their own naivety and lack of knowledge about what technology is available to the military, the no-planers create childish mirages everywhere in order to explain what their lack of understanding deludes them into believing is physically impossible.
Congratulations, you use over 100 words answering the wrong question. Nice touch regarding the 'modified remote controlled planes'. And 'mirror mirror' regarding this little gem...
no-planers create childish mirages everywhere in order to explain what their lack of understanding deludes them into believing is physically impossible.
The planehuggers get desperate, they are inventing 'modified nose cones' now! :lol:
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Micpsi wrote:
Lyceum wrote:How the heck did the nose of the plane pierce through one side of the building and then exit the other side of the building with a perfectly paralell precision?

See 4:36 of this film. http://www.livevideo.com/socialservice

Wake up and let us start investigating what really took place on 9/11.
How did the nose cone remain intact until vaporized by the fireball emerging from the South Tower? Umm, perhaps because it was not made of aluminium? :roll: Perhaps because the modified, remote-controlled jet plane had a nose cone whose casing was made of stellite alloy and packed with depleted uranium to make sure that some of the fuselage of the plane penetrated deeply into the tower so that the explosives on board generated maximum damage, thus making the ensuing collapse of the tower seem more plausible?

See how lack of knowledge and imagination of the no-planers blinds them to real possibilities other than their absurd, ad hoc TV fakery? Just because they cannot think of how things happened does not mean that it did not happen. Stuck within a paradigm set by their own naivety and lack of knowledge about what technology is available to the military, the no-planers create childish mirages everywhere in order to explain what their lack of understanding deludes them into believing is physically impossible.

Tell us about your new theory Micspi it's fascinating!!!!
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plane son on 911 wrote:
Micpsi wrote:
Lyceum wrote:How the heck did the nose of the plane pierce through one side of the building and then exit the other side of the building with a perfectly paralell precision?

See 4:36 of this film. http://www.livevideo.com/socialservice

Wake up and let us start investigating what really took place on 9/11.
How did the nose cone remain intact until vaporized by the fireball emerging from the South Tower? Umm, perhaps because it was not made of aluminium? :roll: Perhaps because the modified, remote-controlled jet plane had a nose cone whose casing was made of stellite alloy and packed with depleted uranium to make sure that some of the fuselage of the plane penetrated deeply into the tower so that the explosives on board generated maximum damage, thus making the ensuing collapse of the tower seem more plausible?

See how lack of knowledge and imagination of the no-planers blinds them to real possibilities other than their absurd, ad hoc TV fakery? Just because they cannot think of how things happened does not mean that it did not happen. Stuck within a paradigm set by their own naivety and lack of knowledge about what technology is available to the military, the no-planers create childish mirages everywhere in order to explain what their lack of understanding deludes them into believing is physically impossible.

Tell us about your new theory Micspi it's fascinating!!!!
Planeson, forget 21st Century computer technology and the fifty year tested brainwashing potential of Television and media control. Let's just knock together a hard as f*** plane instead! :lol:
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It was a joke by the way what happened to your cartoon

No sense of humour on this forum
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plane son on 911 wrote:It was a joke by the way what happened to your cartoon

No sense of humour on this forum
This board is full of LIARS! Dirty liars who are sending thei movement to the dogs and the mods are fully complicit. Ian Neal exerts no control. JW and Gosling just continue to f*** it up.
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The 'nose' has been electronically engineered, it does not and did not exist in the real world as it appeared in the video clip.

It has been faked - we know that due to its dimensions it cannot exist - it is twice the size of the plane in use - therefore it is clearly and unquestionably a hoax, a con, a ruse, a scam.
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Lyceum wrote:
plane son on 911 wrote:It was a joke by the way what happened to your cartoon

No sense of humour on this forum
This board is full of LIARS! Dirty liars who are sending thei movement to the dogs and the mods are fully complicit. Ian Neal exerts no control. JW and Gosling just continue to f*** it up.

It makes a refreshing change to see such honest remarks as these
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Lyceum wrote:
plane son on 911 wrote:It was a joke by the way what happened to your cartoon

No sense of humour on this forum
This board is full of LIARS! Dirty liars who are sending thei movement to the dogs and the mods are fully complicit. Ian Neal exerts no control. JW and Gosling just continue to f*** it up.
In case your wondering, its been moved into moderated topics with a recommendation from me to ban the both of you: AGAIN

For all the whining about moderation on this forum, its the pair of you, especially YOU Prole, who have shown yourselves unable to act with a modicum of respect and decency. When it comes to "filthy minds", actions speak loud and proud here as to who actually has one

Whenever theres a new NPT video, out you come Prole smearing poo over the walls again as if it means something, or proves something: it doesnt, other than no-one does more to discredit NPT than you.

One thing I am sure of: you certainly couldnt take what you try to dish out, you've shown your fragility all to well
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John White wrote:
Lyceum wrote:
plane son on 911 wrote:It was a joke by the way what happened to your cartoon

No sense of humour on this forum
This board is full of LIARS! Dirty liars who are sending thei movement to the dogs and the mods are fully complicit. Ian Neal exerts no control. JW and Gosling just continue to f*** it up.
In case your wondering, its been moved into moderated topics with a recommendation from me to ban the both of you: AGAIN

For all the whining about moderation on this forum, its the pair of you, especially YOU Prole, who have shown yourselves unable to act with a modicum of respect and decency. When it comes to "filthy minds", actions speak loud and proud here as to who actually has one

Whenever theres a new NPT video, out you come Prole smearing poo over the walls again as if it means something, or proves something: it doesnt, other than no-one does more to discredit NPT than you.

One thing I am sure of: you certainly couldnt take what you try to dish out, you've shown your fragility all to well
Your the one who should be banned John White with your relentless pushing of Truth Lite
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I have no idea how chronologically old you are Planes on but psychologically you're stuck in early teenager
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At least I don't go on the James Whale show and say

"Hijackers is the most likely scenario"

And then we have the likes of Chek and Stefan backing this
up

FFS you should all be banished to critics corner based on your own rules

Oh sorry!!!!! I forgot, It's one rule for truth liters and a different rule for us
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"Its so unfair!"

LOL
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Lyceum wrote:
Micpsi wrote:
Lyceum wrote:How the heck did the nose of the plane pierce through one side of the building and then exit the other side of the building with a perfectly paralell precision?

See 4:36 of this film. http://www.livevideo.com/socialservice

Wake up and let us start investigating what really took place on 9/11.
How did the nose cone remain intact until vaporized by the fireball emerging from the South Tower? Umm, perhaps because it was not made of aluminium? :roll: Perhaps because the modified, remote-controlled jet plane had a nose cone whose casing was made of stellite alloy and packed with depleted uranium to make sure that some of the fuselage of the plane penetrated deeply into the tower so that the explosives on board generated maximum damage, thus making the ensuing collapse of the tower seem more plausible?

See how lack of knowledge and imagination of the no-planers blinds them to real possibilities other than their absurd, ad hoc TV fakery? Just because they cannot think of how things happened does not mean that it did not happen. Stuck within a paradigm set by their own naivety and lack of knowledge about what technology is available to the military, the no-planers create childish mirages everywhere in order to explain what their lack of understanding deludes them into believing is physically impossible.
Congratulations, you use over 100 words answering the wrong question. Nice touch regarding the 'modified remote controlled planes'. And 'mirror mirror' regarding this little gem...
no-planers create childish mirages everywhere in order to explain what their lack of understanding deludes them into believing is physically impossible.
The planehuggers get desperate, they are inventing 'modified nose cones' now! :lol:
Not desperate. Just a more plausible scenario than widespread media fakery. :roll:
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And no. I did not answer the wrong question. Implicit in your question was how the nose cone could keep its shape. I answered it.
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telecasterisation wrote:The 'nose' has been electronically engineered, it does not and did not exist in the real world as it appeared in the video clip.

It has been faked - we know that due to its dimensions it cannot exist - it is twice the size of the plane in use - therefore it is clearly and unquestionably a hoax, a con, a ruse, a scam.
I actually agree with that. My reply to Lyceum was meant to demonstrate the simple point that it is the paucity of knowledge - even the lack of imagination - of the no-planers that fuels their theories, not real evidence of anomalies in the original TV footage. They can never prove their case because they can never prove that their dodgy videos were 100% unedited, original footage.
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Micpsi wrote:
telecasterisation wrote:The 'nose' has been electronically engineered, it does not and did not exist in the real world as it appeared in the video clip.

It has been faked - we know that due to its dimensions it cannot exist - it is twice the size of the plane in use - therefore it is clearly and unquestionably a hoax, a con, a ruse, a scam.
I actually agree with that. My reply to Lyceum was meant to demonstrate the simple point that it is the paucity of knowledge - even the lack of imagination - of the no-planers that fuels their theories, not real evidence of anomalies in the original TV footage. They can never prove their case because they can never prove that their dodgy videos were 100% unedited, original footage.
What rubbish you talk, the footage in september clues is from the original tv footage
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plane son on 911 wrote:
Micpsi wrote:
telecasterisation wrote:The 'nose' has been electronically engineered, it does not and did not exist in the real world as it appeared in the video clip.

It has been faked - we know that due to its dimensions it cannot exist - it is twice the size of the plane in use - therefore it is clearly and unquestionably a hoax, a con, a ruse, a scam.
I actually agree with that. My reply to Lyceum was meant to demonstrate the simple point that it is the paucity of knowledge - even the lack of imagination - of the no-planers that fuels their theories, not real evidence of anomalies in the original TV footage. They can never prove their case because they can never prove that their dodgy videos were 100% unedited, original footage.
What rubbish you talk, the footage in september clues is from the original tv footage
which we are told is all faked, so how do you know what is seen is what actually happened???

or is the news footage real now?
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telecasterisation wrote:The 'nose' has been electronically engineered, it does not and did not exist in the real world as it appeared in the video clip.

It has been faked - we know that due to its dimensions it cannot exist - it is twice the size of the plane in use - therefore it is clearly and unquestionably a hoax, a con, a ruse, a scam.
Who is doing the faking then?

The nose-out footage was broadcast on September 11th as can be seen in the clip below (58 seconds in)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZfWE9R6 ... ed&search=[/youtube]

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Lyceum wrote:How the heck did the nose of the plane pierce through one side of the building and then exit the other side of the building with a perfectly parallel precision?

See 4:36 of this film. http://www.livevideo.com/socialservice

Wake up and let us start investigating what really took place on 9/11.
That was the best part of the whole video, showing that the perps used something similar to Flight Simulator to fake the plane crash and they messed up and that's why the nose came out the other end (just like in F.S. when you crash a plane through a building) so they quickly tried to turn off the feed for a brief second, but they were a little to late!
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I'm curious. If the nose cone was part of a holgramatical projection, and a chunk of the building obscured the middle of the plane, then surely you should be able to extrapolate the location of the holgrammes projector in much the same way the CNN footage was prooved fake.
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kc wrote:I'm curious. If the nose cone was part of a holgramatical projection
It wasn't.
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Killtown wrote: That was the best part of the whole video, showing that the perps used something similar to Flight Simulator to fake the plane crash and they messed up and that's why the nose came out the other end (just like in F.S. when you crash a plane through a building) so they quickly tried to turn off the feed for a brief second, but they were a little to late!
...and that's about as exhaustive as NPT 'analysis' gets.
'duh ... just like a video game'.

No matter about the scale and colour of the 'nose' being completely incorrect (graphic engine glitch maybe?) or what happens in subsequent frames.

Nope, it's just like a video game and that's all. The "research" phase is ended. Classic.
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chek wrote:No matter about the scale and colour of the 'nose' being completely incorrect (graphic engine glitch maybe?) or what happens in subsequent frames.
Huh?
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sidlittle wrote:Who is doing the faking then?

The nose-out footage was broadcast on September 11th as can be seen in the clip below (58 seconds in)

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Unquestionably, this was Jane Standley's mother. Despite her advancing years she runs a state of the art editing suite from her room in the north London nursing home where she resides. This was well documented on Rense's site a month or two back.
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chek wrote:
Killtown wrote: That was the best part of the whole video, showing that the perps used something similar to Flight Simulator to fake the plane crash and they messed up and that's why the nose came out the other end (just like in F.S. when you crash a plane through a building) so they quickly tried to turn off the feed for a brief second, but they were a little to late!
...and that's about as exhaustive as NPT 'analysis' gets.
'duh ... just like a video game'.

No matter about the scale and colour of the 'nose' being completely incorrect (graphic engine glitch maybe?) or what happens in subsequent frames.

Nope, it's just like a video game and that's all. The "research" phase is ended. Classic.
If you believe that no planes hit the wtc on 9/11 then you have to believe that all 40 odd videos showing the second impact are fake. some of these also show the same blob of whatever it is emerging from the other side of the south tower....

so if the "nose out" shot featured in "september clues" was a blunder that the "perps" perped by mistake and desperately tried to cover up, then why would they have taken the trouble to fake more videos of the impact taken from different angles which also clearly show a blob coming out the other side of the tower - and make sure they were broadcast later the same day (and subsequently)?

and why would they have bothered to repeat the Fox shot on CNN at all? after all, CNN had already shown their own live footage of the impact a few minutes before (or the footage that the perps had given them to show, or whatever).... :roll:
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telecasterisation wrote:
sidlittle wrote:Who is doing the faking then?

The nose-out footage was broadcast on September 11th as can be seen in the clip below (58 seconds in)

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Unquestionably, this was Jane Standley's mother. Despite her advancing years she runs a state of the art editing suite from her room in the north London nursing home where she resides. This was well documented on Rense's site a month or two back.
I'd always wondered about Cheney's cryptic telegram: "Another fine mess you've gotten me into, Standley"
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telecasterisation wrote:
sidlittle wrote:Who is doing the faking then?

The nose-out footage was broadcast on September 11th as can be seen in the clip below (58 seconds in)

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Unquestionably, this was Jane Standley's mother. Despite her advancing years she runs a state of the art editing suite from her room in the north London nursing home where she resides. This was well documented on Rense's site a month or two back.
An amusing response, not quite up to the standards of the Bill Bailey I saw live in Brighton a couple of summers back mind you.

Oh, and a complete cop-out to a fair point I feel. Are you going to do an about-face in your thinking and start insisting its an engine now? :?:

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gruts wrote: so if the "nose out" shot featured in "september clues" was a blunder that the "perps" perped by mistake and desperately tried to cover up, then why would they have taken the trouble to fake more videos of the impact taken from different angles which also clearly show a blob coming out the other side of the tower - and make sure they were broadcast later the same day (and subsequently)?

and why would they have bothered to repeat the Fox shot on CNN at all? after all, CNN had already shown their own live footage of the impact a few minutes before (or the footage that the perps had given them to show, or whatever).... :roll:
Gruts, as I understand it , the Fox footage was broadcast live. Thats the point. The argument is that CGI insertion into 'live footage was ballsed up.
So, if there were no planes, if the live shot was a CGI c***-up then the perps would have a bit of a problem. Subsequent videos that would 'emerge' would surely show the 2nd hit clearer than chopper 5.

Therefore, some footage had to show this unusual protrusion.

To quote stilldiggin from his article posted below

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The “nose-out” phenomenon was obvious enough that it could be seen even at full-speed. Even if that weren’t the case, it would have undoubtedly been recorded and eventually released on the internet, immediately exposing the amateur videos as containing CGI planes.

And so in essence, the "fitting" logic behind that decision was the exact same logic that they used when they first decided they could get away with this crime in the first place:

Proving that something exists is far easier than having to prove that it doesn’t exist. “Seeing is believing” - no matter that it defies the Laws of Physics. Such is the power of the mighty media.
(my emphasis-just like 'collapse' of towers 1,2,7!)

In this case, it was a far less daunting task to reinforce the physical impossibility that people had seen on television than to convince people that they didn’t see it at all.

If you want to read more, go through the articles below . They are in three parts.

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Pinocchio Exposes Nose-Out Fairy Tale – Part I: The Screw-Up
http://911logic.blogspot.com/2006/11/91 ... cchio.html

Pinocchio Exposes Nose-Out Fairy Tale – Part II: The Cover-Up
http://911logic.blogspot.com/2006/11/91 ... io_17.html

Pinocchio - Part III: Screwing Up the Cover-Up of the Cover-Up of the Screw-Up
http://911logic.blogspot.com/2006/12/91 ... t-iii.html
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