Alex Jones refuses to discuss Pentagon attack?

[Jason Blyth]

I recently watched Barbara Honnegger speak at a convention in August 2007 at Madison Wisconsin, event hosted by James Fetzer.
She points out at certain events she has attended, Alex Jones has refused to speak re. Pentagon attack. Also at one of Alex Jones events Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas did speak about the Pentagon attacks and Alex looked livid.
This would surprise me if Alex Jones is unwilling to talk about these things. Has someone scared him enough, for him to keep quite ?
Is any one aware why he will not speak about these things, or has Barbara got it wrong.

[item8]

He often speaks about it. He knows 9/11 was a false flag attack and is the most outspoken person on that event. He covers all aspects of it on his radio show and in his movies. Listen here :- http://www.infowars.com/listen.html
or order his videos.

[Daniel Elliott]

''He covers all aspects of it on his radio show and in his movies''

From what I've come to understand, he's rather selective of the subject matter he'll/GCN will carry as they appear to follow their own official line. While a lot of what Alex speaks of is interesting, his relationship with Jones and others is ludicrous in my opinion.

[item8]

they appear to follow their own official line

What does that mean?

[Daniel Elliott]

Hi Item8,

Sorry, I should have explained my thoughts a bit more I think. From what I can understand further to listening to the shows, Jones and GCN appear to have their own rigid agenda when dishing out the 'truth'. We may all have our own thoughts on the WTC/Pentagon/Flight93 events but at least most of us are open to the reasoning and questions of others. Jones will often simply cut callers off and rant or simply fail to engage in a civil debate. They know what they want people to hear and that's all they're interested in broadcasting. The same crowd seemed to hijack Loose Change also. I thought it was a shame as it could have been a great series of information. Just my thoughts....

[Jason Blyth]

Thanks for your replies, I realise Alex Jones does speak openly against the 9/11 official story, as I do own all of his DVD's/Books.
I was just shocked why Alex refused to speak about the Pentagon attacks at his live events, his reply was "I dont talk about that".
As the official reports on the pentagon have so many problems, I would have thought this was an essential topic of debate.
This must be an important issue for it to be mentioned by speakers at a 9/11 Truth convention.
I do not doubt Alex Jones credibility, I just wanted peoples views why he will not speak about the Pentagon at events.

[TonyGosling]

Alex is a funny chap on occasions, but overall on the money which is why he gets so many attacks such as the forthcoming MSNBC hatchet job on him.
He must have got something right to get these attacks.

[item8]

Perhaps he is worried that he might be associated with the "no-planes" theory, one which has been deliberately raised by the shills to discredit the 9/11 truth movement. Unlike the WTC there seems to have been no plane at the Pentagon but to say so to people still believing the official lies could make them generalise and believe him to be a "no-planer" idiot.

[Daniel Elliott]

Jones must follow the official plane story as that's what his work is based on. He won't entertain debating the issue and simply cut callers off. First he ignored, then he laughted at and now he attacks 'no planers'. It's a shame as he could put the whole thing to bed - if he had the evidence.

I think his best area is in the NWO arena, personally.

[item8]

AH - I see now. You are a "no-planer". That explains everything.

First he ignored, then he laughted at and now he attacks 'no planers'

Twisting the Ghandi quote to suit the no-plane drivel. He hasn't laughed at or attacked just ignored, like any sensible person should. Like me. Bye bye.

[Daniel Elliott]

Great outlook Item8.

All the best!

Daniel Elliott
NBB

[Jason Blyth]

Thanks to Daniel and item8 for your replys.
What you say makes sense, I understand people are out to harm the 9/11 truth movement, with daft claims. Maybe I did not realise the no-plane theory caused such divisions within 9/11 truth.
I think by not discussing the Pentagon, he avoids being labelled a no-planer, makes the most sense.
Thank you !

[GodSaveTheTeam]

Alex Jones has refused to speak re. Pentagon attack, or the possibility that a military plane may have hit south tower. Also at one of Alex Jones events Dylan Avery and Jason Bermas did speak about the Pentagon attacks and Alex looked livid.
This would surprise me if Alex Jones is unwilling to talk about these things. Has someone scared him enough, for him to keep quite ?
Is any one aware why he will not speak about these things, or has Barbara got it wrong.

A few years ago, Jones stated that he believes that the Pentagon plane issue is the ace up the sleeve of the 'real 9/11 planners'.

He said that they are using the issue of whether or not there really was a plane there on the day to attract attention to the issue and make it the sole concern of the movement.

He could be right. There certainly are a lot of witnesses that said they saw the plane hit the Pentagon.

They may have planned to play their ace by showing crystal clear footage of the plane from several angles, thereby bursting the bubble of the movement instantly. Certainly in the minds of most skeptics.

I dont believe they have been forced to play that ace yet because of a lack of cohesion within the movement for the last 3 years. We haven't challenged them enough to play it.

Judicial Watch did manage to get them to release the infamous cctv footage a few years back but it is as we all know ambiguous. But enough for the more skeptical.

The lack of credible evidence of planes at the Pentagon and in Shanksville could well have been a pre-planned foundation of doubt in the OCT.

That may have been used to create the belief in TV Fakery and the bogus film September Clues from the faceless Shack which in my opinion is deceptive and misleading.

[Caz]

I find the following re Alex Jones odd to say the least:

On this video Coleman states at 5.35 mins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd3O4R9GsaU

'I've spoken to hundreds of thousands of people across the United States and worldwide and I've been on many many radio shows...'

However, on the recent interview, Alex Jones with (supposedly) John Coleman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxh0SnzCIX0

6.30 mins

shifting gears yet again....in the time we've got and I want to get you back up in the next few weeks. I don't know how it's been years and years.....I think eight years since we've had you on …....you just blank and then decades flash past.

Either John Coleman is not the same man he used to be (incidentally not seen in public for 16 years) or Alex Jones is claiming exclusive rights to John Coleman when he is not entitled to.

Interesting that this has made it to the 'controversies' section; seems like a legitimate debate with reasonable questions raised.

.

[GodSaveTheTeam]

I find the following re Alex Jones odd to say the least:

On this video Coleman states at 5.35 mins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd3O4R9GsaU

'I've spoken to hundreds of thousands of people across the United States and worldwide and I've been on many many radio shows...'

However, on the recent interview, Alex Jones with (supposedly) John Coleman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxh0SnzCIX0

6.30 mins

shifting gears yet again....in the time we've got and I want to get you back up in the next few weeks. I don't know how it's been years and years.....I think eight years since we've had you on …....you just blank and then decades flash past.

Either John Coleman is not the same man he used to be (incidentally not seen in public for 16 years) or Alex Jones is claiming exclusive rights to John Coleman when he is not entitled to.

Interesting that this has made it to the 'controversies' section; seems like a legitimate debate with reasonable questions raised.

.

Not sure what you're getting at here.

The Coleman video which you link to appears to be quite old. It's perfectly feasible for him to have done many talks and radio shows and then not be seen in public for years.

It's also perfectly feasible for Jones not to have had him on his show for years as well.

How are you reading this quote...

shifting gears yet again....in the time we've got and I want to get you back up in the next few weeks. I don't know how it's been years and years.....I think eight years since we've had you on …....you just blank and then decades flash past.

...as Jones claiming exclusive rights to Coleman. He's just saying that he hasn't had Coleman on his own show for a long time.

Both men maybe utterly compromised but what you present here doesn't even get close to a reasonable doubt whatsoever.

[Caz]

He still hasn't been seen in public.

[GodSaveTheTeam]

He still hasn't been seen in public.

Can you present good evidence with sources to back up that claim substantially?

[Caz]

I was actually referring to the above statement:

It's perfectly feasible for him to have done many talks and radio shows and then not be seen in public for years.

[KP50]

A few years ago, Jones stated that he believes that the Pentagon plane issue is the ace up the sleeve of the 'real 9/11 planners'.

He said that they are using the issue of whether or not there really was a plane there on the day to attract attention to the issue and make it the sole concern of the movement.

He could be right. There certainly are a lot of witnesses that said they saw the plane hit the Pentagon.

They may have planned to play their ace by showing crystal clear footage of the plane from several angles, thereby bursting the bubble of the movement instantly. Certainly in the minds of most skeptics.

I dont believe they have been forced to play that ace yet because of a lack of cohesion within the movement for the last 3 years. We haven't challenged them enough to play it.

Judicial Watch did manage to get them to release the infamous cctv footage a few years back but it is as we all know ambiguous. But enough for the more skeptical.

The lack of credible evidence of planes at the Pentagon and in Shanksville could well have been a pre-planned foundation of doubt in the OCT.

That may have been used to create the belief in TV Fakery and the bogus film September Clues from the faceless Shack which in my opinion is deceptive and misleading.

The "honey-pot" theory of the Pentagon and the belief that the Government will one day release conclusive evidence is the method that has been used to keep people from looking too closely at the Pentagon. This has been necessary because the evidence is so contradictory, most or all of it must have been faked in some way.

The path of the plane required to cause the damage to the lightpoles and to the Pentagon is very specific. Multiple witnesses state the plane flew over the Navy Annex and north of the Citgo gas station and many of them are on camera saying this. And also these witnesses have drawn their flightpath onto a map so their words cannot be misinterpreted. This work has been documented by CIT.

Now if you wander the world of the web, you can find many people labelling CIT as disinfo. But ask yourself why that would be, given that it is the witnesses stating the path of the plane.

In short, there was a plane, it didn't hit the lightpoles. That is enough to prove inside job.

[SHERITON HOTEL]

Further to my 911 business spin off 'office fire controlled demolition' a la wtc7 suggestion to the quitics in quitics cornered, what do people with normal human suspicion reflexes think of $quillion dollar DU tipped bunker busters being replaced by scrapyard boeing carbon fibre nosecones and aluminium fuselages fired at sub sonic speeds?

[Caz]

Alex Jones interviews John Coleman and advertises his website, located at 101 Convention Center Dr., #700, Las Vegas, NV 89109 USA, along with US Defense subcontractors, adult porn, food additives, manufacturers of military clothing (pre-sprayed with pesticides) and a host of other companies.

http://www.lifeinthemixtalk.com/?p=15064

John Coleman (at least as far as I am aware) has not been interviewed or filmed since 1994.

However, Alex Jones claims to interview John Coleman on 6 June 2010, 18 June 2010, 23 June 2010.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t83CX0W7e6g (part one of four, on 6th June 2010)

and here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-px9lb1nraQ (part one of four, on June 23, 2010)

Alex Jones promotes the website http://coleman300.com/, located at the following address :



101 Convention Center Dr., #700,
Las Vegas, NV 89109 USA.



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101 Convention Center Dr., #700,
Las Vegas, NV 89109 USA.



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from:

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Epitome Management Service Inc

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Marine Consultants Inc

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Optikey Inc

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Quantum Leap Electronic Components : addressed to 101 Convention Center Drive, Suite 700:

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Quantum Leap Electronics website refers to the military:

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http://aerowing-inc.sbcontract.com/profile.htm

also reported with respect to Department of Defense at:

http://www.city-data.com/zips/89109.html



AEROWING, INC (101 CONVENTION CENTER DR in LAS VEGAS, NV; small business)

50 employees, $0 revenue. : $807,701 in 13 contracts from 2003 to 2006

Contracts for Physical Properties Testing and Inspection, Miscellaneous Machine Tools, Miscellaneous Maintenance and Repair Shop Specialized Equipment, Chemical Analysis Instruments, and more by Air Force, Army

Signed by year: 2000: $0; 2001: $0; 2002: $0; 2003: $199,950; 2004: $126,870; 2005: $78,881; 2006: $402,000.



Biggest contracts :

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$150,800 with Air Force for Miscellaneous Machine Tools. Signed on 2003-11-20. Completion date: 2004-02-13.

$59,218 with Army for Miscellaneous Maintenance and Repair Shop Specialized Equipment. Taking place in NJ. Signed on 2004-09-23. Completion date: 2004-11-22.

$58,890 with Air Force for Chemical Analysis Instruments. Signed on 2004-08-24. Completion date: 2004-10-29.



International Global Systems addressed to 101 Convention Center Drive, Suite 700 on this website:

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Department of Defense Contracts here:

http://www.city-data.com/zips/89109.html



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Signed by year: 2000: $0; 2001: $192,935; 2002: $2,368,881; 2003: $2,846,398; 2004: $3,991,632; 2005: $3,576,198; 2006: $228,953.

Biggest contracts :

$1,463,423 with Department of Defense for Other ADP and Telecommunications Services (includes data storage on tapes, compact disks, etc.). Taking place in VA. Signed on 2005-09-29. Completion date: 2005-12-31.

$895,090 with Army for ADPE System Configuration. Taking place in VA. Signed on 2002-03-12. Completion date: 2002-03-31.

$799,980, same as above. Signed on 2004-05-12. Completion date: 2004-05-29.

$722,834, same as above. Signed on 2003-09-28. Completion date: 2003-10-28.



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Woolz with the Department of Defense :

http://www.woolz-enterprises.com/index. ... &Itemid=31

PERMETHRIN™ – All our wool products are treated with Permethrin which repels and kills small insects, spiders, mosquitoes, ticks, etc. and repels scorpions.



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Frontline Direct

http://www.frontlinedirectinc.com/

Frontline Direct’s database contains over 100 million unique consumer profiles, offering behavioral, geographic, and demographic targeting.



Save Our Secret Ballot website: http://www.sosballot.org/contact.php

SOS Ballot, Inc. (Save Our Secret Ballot) is a 501 c 4 organization dedicated to educating the American public on the continued need for a secret ballot wherever state or federal law requires elections. promoted by :

National Advisory Board

Ernest Istook, Chairman Fmr Congressman, Heritage Foundation

Gilbert Baker, Arkansas State Senator, Fmr ARGOP Chair

Clint Bolick, Goldwater Institute, Director Scharf-Norton Center for Constitutional Litigation

Adam Hasner, Florida House Majority Leader

Sydney Hay, President, Arizona Mining Association

Paul Jacob, Citizens in Charge, Founder US Term Limits

Brian Johnson, Executive Director, Alliance for Worker Freedom

Jonathan Johnson, President, Overstock.com

John Loudon, Missouri State Senator

Mark Meierhenry, Fmr South Dakota Attorney General

Pat Toomey, President, Club for Growth

Merrill Cook, Fmr Rep.(R-UT)

Mark Shurtleff, Utah Attorney General

Troy King, Alabama Attorney General



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Alcohol Beverage Control Ruling : http://www.shoptemeculawines.com/abc-ruling.php

Travelnet Group http://www.travnetgroup.com/SingleUseCr ... onForm.pdf

(supports ‘Job Connection’)

http://www.dfwjobconnection.com/test.html

‘I had a lot of response from the Job Connection.
TravNet LLC‘



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On Wednesday, March 17, 2004, a U.S. federal trademark registration was filed for BETA BIOTIC. This trademark is owned by Advanced Life Research Inc., Suite 700, Las Vegas , 89109 . Trademarkia.com is a free search engine of publicly available government records.



Pharmaceutical and veterinary preparations; sanitary preparations for medical purposes; dietetic substances adapted for medical use, food for babies; plasters, materials for dressings; material for stopping teeth, dental wax; disinfectants; preparations for destroying vermin; fungicides, herbicides.



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Specializing in Semi Refined and Refined Carrageenan Blend Formulation

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David J. Finn (“Finn”) purported to be the president and sole director of DBS and has last known addresses at

7380 S. Eastern Avenue, Suite 124-129, Las Vegas, Nevada 89123; and 101 Convention Center Drive, Suite 700,

Las Vegas, Nevada 89109.



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http://coleman300.com/Company/Contact/

IMPORTANT NOTICE

Correspondence addressed to this website will not be answered unless it relates directly to orders. All general correspondence, comments and or observations must be addressed to:

101 Convention Center Dr., #700,
Las Vegas, NV 89109 USA.



Question….

Would Dr John Coleman have a website which gave an address which also served the above operations?

Added Note :

we also found such a similar strange set of corporate interests when we looked at the Edge Media programme which has promoted David Icke and Brian Gerrish, amongst others, and yet more sinister is the fact that each time I have presented a leaflet operation in Britain, the first people to make contact by telephone were always Intel, and they always brought Edge Media into the conversation.

I see Intel in such creations, I see Intel all over the truth movement.

We have to start again or we continue to regurgitate old news while the real moves of the NWO go unreported.

I think it is time lifeinthemix looked into creating a new and Intel free radio network, but for that we would need some serious financial support.

I hereby formerly request any and all serious people who have the means to make contact with us so we can move in this direction :

lifeinthemix22@yahoo.com



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[TonyGosling]

More doubts surfacing about Alex Jones. I'm not expressing an opinion just very much aware of the diabolical Christian Zionist agenda into which Alex may heve been suckered.

Evidence continues to mount against American radio show host and self-proclaimed patriot Alex Jones that he is a counter-intelligence operative working for the state of Israel.
The latest comes from his promotion of Grant R. Jeffrey and his recently made documentary Shadow Government, which has been spammed all over Alex Jones' various websites and forums for the last 8 months.
Jeffrey, a prominent Christian Zionist author, takes the unorthodox futurist view of Bible prophecy that places Jews on a pedestal and as the centre of attention during the alleged future "Last Days."
Mike Rivero www.whatreallyhappened.com
...........
http://fitzinformer.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... etics.html
While it has been confirmed that Alex Jones' wife, Violet, is Jewish, it is unknown if Alex has converted to Judaism, if he is a Christian Zionist himself, or if he is aiding Zionist propaganda for monetary gain and/or protection from the Jewish-led New World Order.

[Christophera]

Thanks to Daniel and item8 for your replys.
What you say makes sense, I understand people are out to harm the 9/11 truth movement, with daft claims. Maybe I did not realise the no-plane theory caused such divisions within 9/11 truth.
I think by not discussing the Pentagon, he avoids being labelled a no-planer, makes the most sense.
Thank you !

I find this an interesting topic because jones has not really defined what he thinks is a credible, feasible explanation for anything at the WTC. I do understand that the pentagon was designed to be a disaster for 9-11 truth because of the military eyewitnesses confirming the planes. Despite their many inconsistencies, those people that do not want to believe it was a false flag will always believe the credible, mind controlled pentagon inhabitants and the missing videos, flight path impossibilities, etc. etc, just don't matter.

I do realise the impression that saying their were not planes at the pentagon can be easily misinterprepted as being "no planer".

Personally, I never talk about planes, unless it is to discredit the reasons for doing so, because at the WTC, planes had nothing to do with what happened to 2 towers in 20 seconds total.

[item8]

planes had nothing to do with what happened to 2 towers in 20 seconds total.

Make that THREE towers!!!!!! Don't forget "buildingwhat?!"