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A fascinating insight into the greed and profligacy of these gravy trainers.
A £22k per person junket in Dorset for the AIG gangsters
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AIG's lords and lady of the hunt may find themselves under attack after luxury trip

By CORKY SIEMASZKO
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Wednesday, October 15th 2008, 1:11 AM
A traditional British hunt. Taxpayers may want to sic the hounds on the AIG executives who enjoyed another luxury vacation, this one including a partrigde hunt at a 5-star hotel in England. Ellis/AP

A traditional British hunt. Taxpayers may want to sic the hounds on the AIG executives who enjoyed another luxury vacation, this one including a partrigde hunt at a 5-star hotel in England.

Four top AIG executives flipped U.S. taxpayers the bird by spending $86,000 on a partridge hunt at an English country manor as the feds gave their struggling firm billions to stay afloat.

The heedless hunters and their guests traipsed through the fields in tweed knickers, firing at defenseless birds and later washing down pigeon breasts and halibut with "the finest wines taxpayers' money can buy," the London-based News of the World newspaper reported.
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There were at least three New Yorkers in the group - Jeffrey Malkovsky, a senior director at AIG's Manhattan office, Hilary James, the general manager of the luxurious Bristol Plaza Hotel, and her pal, John Roberts, who also advises AIG, sources said.

In interviews with undercover reporters, the AIG honchos said they were aware that the markets were crashing back in New York - but were more interested in bagging birds.

"The recession will go on until about 2011 - but the shooting was great today and we are relaxing fine," AIG honcho Sebastian Preil was quoted as saying.
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Preil wasn't the least bit embarrassed that AIG, which got its first $85 billion bailout from the feds last month, needed taxpayer money to stay in business. The hunting trip came the week AIG got a second loan of $37.5 billion.

"We should be on an even keel in two years," he reportedly said.

Another AIG executive, Alvaro Mengotti, "slurped fine wine" while dispensing advice on surviving the financial crisis. "Invest your money in gold," he reportedly said.

The AIG hunting party stayed at Plumber Manor, a 17th century country house in scenic Dorset, southwest of London. In four days, they racked up a $17,500 bill for food and rooms.

Priel and a German businessman identified by the paper as Stefan Nill flew in from Frankfurt by private jet costing another $17,500, the paper reported.

Mengotti flew in from Spain and was driven to the hotel in one of the fleet of limos that cost $8,750, the paper said.
Also with them was a client of Preil's identified by the paper as "Herr W. Underburg."

AIG spokesman Joe Norton confirmed Tuesday the hunt happened. He said "it was planned months (ago)," though he admitted it should have been cancelled.

"AIG's priority is to continue to focus on maximizing the value of the business so we can repay the federal reserve loan."

AIG got spanked last month after it was revealed that top executives spent $500,000 at a * California resort after the failing insurer got it's first infusion of bailout bucks.

Last week, AIG cancelled another junket to another expensive California resort for AIG agents after word leaked out.

http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2008/1 ... _find.html
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'Reckless' bankers should get asbos
Bankers who helped spark the credit crunch should be given anti-social behaviour orders to stop them being "reckless" in the future, a trade union leader has said.

Speculators who acted "irresponsibly" could be banned from working just like teenage yobs are banned from loitering, it was suggested.

Harry Fletcher, deputy general secretary of Napo, the probation officers union, said guilty bankers could also be given "acceptable behaviour contracts" like errant children to make them promise not to do the same in the future.

And he said the Government could look to extract financial penalties from people whose "negligence" had in part forced a taxpayer bail-out of banks.

He said: "The Probation Service deals with over 240,000 offenders every year who have behaved recklessly and caused damage and harm to innocent victims.

"The behaviour of dealers and traders is exactly the same: some of them have caused alarm and distress and have behaved in a reckless way."

"The Government must therefore investigate whether there has been any wrongdoing under current laws and if not should consider as a matter of urgency new laws."

He said innocent people had lost their homes and jobs as a result of the crunch and bankers should not be given "impunity".

He called for financial regulators, the Financial Services Authority, or the Home Office to launch an urgent inquiry into what new measures were needed.
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It used to be a lowering of interest rates led to a lowering of mortgage costs. Not any more the opposite occurs...



Lenders reject five million credit applications

* Miles Brignall
* The Guardian,
* Thursday October 16 2008


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Credit cards: Cautious banks are rejecting more applications. Photograph: PA

Almost 5 million applications from people seeking new credit cards or a personal loan were rejected over the last six months by lenders squeezed by the credit crisis.

The financial comparison website MoneyExpert.com said yesterday it had evidence that up to 3.27m credit card applications were turned down by cautious banks over the last six months. It claimed a further 1.5m personal loan applications were also rejected - the equivalent of over 20,000 requests a day.

Evidence emerged yesterday that millions of mortgage customers will not get the full benefit of last week's base rate cut, introduced to stimulate the economy.

Sean Gardner, director of MoneyExpert.com, said the banking crisis had left lenders terrified to lend to almost anyone.

"They are battening down the hatches and focusing on getting as much money back as possible. They appear to be tightening up on already tightened rules for new applications."

Gardner said that consumers aged between 25 and 34 were the most likely to be rejected for loans.

His research found that around 21% of applicants in that age group had failed to get a credit card over the previous six months. Around 10% were turned down for an unsecured personal loan.

"Anyone whose credit record is even remotely suspect risks rejection. Banks want to recover their bad debts."

He said that banks were increasingly looking at affordability and were concluding that consumers facing significantly higher food and utility bills would be financially stretched by any new loan repayments. He also warned those who wanted a loan against making multiple applications which he said were a sure sign of desperation to the banks.

Analysis by the website found that consumers who were successful faced higher charges than 18 months ago.

It said the average APR on credit card purchases has increased from 16.77% in March 2007 to 17.46%. And the average rate on a £5,000 personal loan has almost doubled from 8.6% to 15.3%.

A separate poll by the comparison website uSwitch.com found cash-strapped consumers have been cancelling insurance or pension contributions in a bid to cut household expenditure.

Homeowners will not get the full benefit of last week's 0.5% base rate cut in the form of lower mortgage payments. Nationwide, said that it will only be passing on 0.3% cut in the rates it charges its customers on its standard variable rate.

Earlier this week, the building society, which has 14 million customers, raised the cost of its new tracker rate mortgages by 0.3% allowing to increase margins.

It has also reduced the number of mortgages on offer to those borrowing more than 85% of their home's value.

Northern Rock said it was reducing its SVR by just 0.15%.
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Financial Crisis
What might happen next?

* Julia Finch
* The Guardian,
* Saturday October 18 2008
* Article history

1. The short, sharp shock

V-shaped recession

Gordon Brown's bank rescue plans work like magic. Interest rates are slashed to 3.5% by Christmas and, after the festive season, confidence returns to the banks and they start to lend again. Rates are cut further, to 2.5% by summer. House prices stabilise as buyers come back and consumer and business confidence turns up.

Companies report lower profits, but there are not big collapses. Commodity prices stabilise. Oil goes to $60 and stays there, helping bring inflation down to 2%.

A few emerging-market economies have similar wobbles to Iceland but get assistance from the International Monetary Fund. The global economy is helped by only a mild slowdown in China and unemployment in India peaks at 2.5m.
2. Five years of gloom

U-shaped recession

Banks remain reluctant to lend as a harsh new regulatory regime bites. Lenders focus on only the safest loans to the best risks. Interest rates fall to 2.5% by the summer but banks do not pass the lower rate on to borrowers in order to rebuild profits and capital bases. Some banks require further capital injections. Policymakers run out of ideas. China's growth slows, inflation remains and unemployment hits 3 million. The FTSE-100 is stuck at 3300-3800. Repossessions rise and properties lose 40% of their value. Numerous company failures, but after five years, the first green shoots of recovery start to appear.
3. The double-dipper

W-shaped recession

It looks just like the short sharp shock, but Opec cuts production and there is a new drought in wheat-producing regions. At the same time pay demands take off and inflation re-emerges. The Bank of England's monetary policy committee lifts interest rates. Consumers lose confidence and struggle to repay their debts. A new round of bank write-offs begins. Repossession rates and corporate failures climb again.
4. The lost decade

L-shaped recession

As witnessed after the Japanese banking crisis: today's inflation turns to next year's deflation. The banks remain reluctant to lend and consumers struggle to repay their loans. Bad debts mount, house prices fall 40% after a sharp drop and then a sustained drift.

Corporate failures are at a record rate and unemployment reaches 3.5m. House repossessions rise as borrowers lose their jobs. There are bank failures and a couple of insurance companies topple over. The US is also in deep recession and the Chinese economy faces a hard landing. The FTSE-100 index dips to 3000 - another 25% down on today's levels and more than 50% below its 2007 peak - and fails to recover.
5. Armageddon

A new war in the Middle East pushes oil prices into the stratosphere. Central banks have to raise interest rates to combat inflation. Most major economies tip into depression.

Banking systems in many countries collapse, leading to widespread chaos as people are unable to access their money or pay for anything. Riots ensue and long queues appear outside soup kitchens as governments put soldiers on the streets to maintain order. Unemployment exceeds the peak seen in the 1930s. Overall world output falls for more than a decade. It's the worst depression the world has ever seen.

Julia Finch and Ashley Seager

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008 ... -recession
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King Says BOE Will Act as U.K. Recession Seems Likely (Update1)

By Brian Swint and Jennifer Ryan
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Oct. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Bank of England Governor Mervyn King said Britain's worst banking crisis since World War I is likely to push the economy into a recession, requiring policy makers to act ``promptly'' to prevent inflation from slowing too much.

``The combination of a squeeze on real take-home pay and a decline in the availability of credit poses the risk of a sharp and prolonged slowdown in domestic demand,'' King said in a speech to executives in Leeds, England yesterday. The Monetary Policy Committee ``will act promptly to ensure that inflation remains on track to meet our target.''

King said house prices will continue to fall and the pound may depreciate further in his first explicit acknowledgement that a U.K. recession is likely. The financial crisis led Gordon Brown's government to bail out the British banking system and will push the economy into its first full-year contraction since 1991, the National Institute of Economic and Social Research said today.

``We are far from the end of the road back to stability,'' King said. ``But the plan to recapitalize our banking system, both here and abroad, will I believe come to be seen as the moment in the banking crisis of the past year when we turned the corner.''

The pound slid to the lowest level in more than five years against the dollar after King's comments. The U.K. currency fell to $1.6203, the lowest level since September 2003, and traded at $1.6398 as of 8:03 a.m. in London.

Growth Forecast

Manufacturing confidence is at the lowest since 1980, the Confederation of British Industry said yesterday, and house prices fell at the biggest annual rate in at least six years this month, Rightmove Plc said Oct. 20. Gross domestic product will fall 0.9 percent in 2009 and consumer spending will drop 3.4 percent, Niesr, whose clients include the central bank, said today.

Home Retail Group Plc, the owner of Britain's Argos stores, reported a first-half loss today after writing down the value of its Homebase chain and said annual profit may be at the lower end of analysts' estimates as spending slumps.

``Over the past month, the economic news has probably been the worst in such a short period for a very considerable time,'' King said. ``Indeed, it now seems likely that the U.K. economy is entering a recession. The balance of risks to inflation in the medium term shifted decisively to the downside.''

The fastest consumer-price gains in a decade, spurred by higher utility bills, are adding to the squeeze on consumer spending, King said. Still, the 50 percent drop in oil prices since July and the recapitalization of banks are two pieces of ``good news'' about the outlook, he said.

Libor Rate

King cautioned against expecting borrowing costs to rebound to levels before the credit freeze took hold. The gap between the three-month London interbank offered rate and the base rate was 1.6 percentage points yesterday. The last time the benchmark rate was 4.5 percent, in July 2006, the gap was 0.29 percentage point.

``The age of innocence -- when banks lent to each other unsecured for three months or longer at only a small premium to expected policy rates -- will not quickly, if ever, return,'' King said. ``I hope it is now understood that the provision of central bank liquidity, while essential to buy time, is not, and never could be, the solution to the banking crisis, nor to the problems of individual banks.''

Brown's government took controlling stakes in Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc and HBOS Plc as part of a 37 billion pound ($64 billion) bailout. It also promised 250 billion pounds in interbank loan guarantees to help unfreeze money markets after Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. filed for the biggest bankruptcy in history, destroying confidence among banks.

`Close to Collapse'

``Not since the beginning of the First World War has our banking system been so close to collapse,'' King said. ``It would be a mistake, however, to think that had Lehman Brothers not failed, a crisis would have been averted. The underlying cause of inadequate capital would eventually have provoked a crisis of one kind or another somewhere else.''


The decline in credit-default swaps for U.K. banks is ``the single most important diagnostic statistic'' for investor perceptions of bank solvency, King said. He said bank credit derivatives have fallen ``markedly'' since the government announced its bank stakes plan, suggesting the measures are having a ``major impact'' in restoring confidence.

Contracts on Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc have dropped to 103 basis points, falling 203 basis points since Oct. 7, the day before the government announced its bailout plan, CMA Datavision prices show.

National Debt

King said that higher national debt incurred by the bailout ``need not prove inflationary'' and that the government may be able to reduce its stakes in banks ``within a reasonable period.'' He said one method would be ``by selling units in a bank reconstruction fund.''

Investors overseas may also be less willing to put their money in the U.K., King said. ``Unless they are replaced by other forms of external finance, the adjustments in the trade deficit and exchange rate will need to be larger and faster than would otherwise have occurred, implying a larger rise in domestic saving and weaker domestic spending in the short run.''

Economists including Citigroup Inc.'s Michael Saunders and UBS AG's Amit Kara predict that the Bank of England will follow the Oct. 8 emergency interest-rate reduction with another half- point cut at the next scheduled meeting on Nov. 6. Minutes of the emergency meeting, showing how each of the nine panel members voted, will be published today at 9:30 a.m. in London.

To contact the reporters on this story: Brian Swint in London at bswint@bloomberg.net; Jennifer Ryan in London at jryan13@bloomberg.net.
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Nice couple of clips on Greenspan and Greenspan v Bernie Sanders:

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Bernie Sanders is now the Senator for Vermont; here is his website, with some more audio and video clips:

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/

One of his constituents describes him, correctly it would seem, as the only Socialist in the Senate.
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So When Will Banks Give Loans?
In point of fact, the dirty little secret of the banking industry is that it has no intention of using the money to make new loans. But this executive was the first insider who’s been indiscreet enough to say it within earshot of a journalist.

(He didn’t mean to, of course, but I obtained the call-in number and listened to a recording.)

“Twenty-five billion dollars is obviously going to help the folks who are struggling more than Chase,” he began. “What we do think it will help us do is perhaps be a little bit more active on the acquisition side or opportunistic side for some banks who are still struggling. And I would not assume that we are done on the acquisition side just because of the Washington Mutual and Bear Stearns mergers. I think there are going to be some great opportunities for us to grow in this environment, and I think we have an opportunity to use that $25 billion in that way and obviously depending on whether recession turns into depression or what happens in the future, you know, we have that as a backstop.”
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Brasscheck video clip on bailout secrecy:

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The New Third Way - Global Financial Crisis™ - Branding Disaster Capitalism
Author Blackwatch (of 12/10/2008 @ 20:26:08, in Current Affairs, viewed 313 times)

Make this crisis bigger

"Power can stage its own murder to rediscover a glimmer of existence and legitimacy. To seek new blood in its own death, to renew the cycle by the mirror of crisis, negativity and anti-power: this is the only alibi of every power, of every institution attempting to break the vicious circle of its irresponsibility and its fundamental nonexistence, of its deja-vu and its deja-mort." (Jean Baudrillard, Simulations, Selected Writings, ed. Mark Poster, Stanford University Press, 1988)

"Shock and awe are actions that create fears, dangers and destruction that are incomprehensible to the people at large, specific elements/sectors of the threat society, or the leadership. nature in the form of tornadoe, hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, uncomtrolled fires, famine and disease can engender shock and awe" ('Thoughts on Rapid Dominance', Bud Edney)

'The Financial Tsunami and the Evolving Economic Crisis' (F. William Engdahl)

"The PM has enjoyed a small but significant bounce in the polls since the collapse of Lehman Brothers four weeks ago. On Wednesday, he felt relaxed enough to joke that a mobile phone ringing was another bank going under." (Is Gordon Brown cashing in on the markets crisis?, The Independent on Sunday, 12.10.08)

How to make no small amount of capital from disaster. In association with the BBC and Hugo Boss.

What’s it all about, eh? Brown’s Labour Government partially nationalizes the country’s banks under a £50 billion plan and Portugal’s ruling Socialist government follows suit with an estimated €20-billion package. Even the traditionally conservative US has been rocked by the Republican leader’s 'shamelessly' Marxist response. A ‘conservative president to nationalize American banks!’ screamed one US newspaper. Was this the beginning of a ‘Socialist America’? Or was this a temporary measure to give bankers enough confidence to start lending money again; a way of navigating us through a crisis?

As Simon Heffer of TheDaily Telegraph has already pointed out, the government decision to ‘take stakes in our leading banks in order to re-capitalise them is not quite the Sovietisation of Britain but it is a pretty good start.’

And it’s a sentiment that was no doubt shared by millions of Germans during the banking crisis of 1931, a parallel that’s already been drawn by Jochen Sanio – head of Germany’s current financial market watchdog agency BAFIN - when he argues that the state Kreditanstalt Bank's intervention to save the IKB Deutsche Industriebank in 2007 had prevented ‘the worst banking crisis in Germany since 1931’. And it’s a claim repeated more recently by German publication, Der Speigel.

Naturally, the comparison is by no means an idle one.

In October 1930 just after their stunning electoral triumph the newly crowned Nazi deputies introduced a bill to nationalize banks and control interest rates, which the Chancellor asked them to withdraw. But as the crisis continued it soon became clear that the ‘State Socialism’ envisaged by the Nazis would benefit from eliminating the disproportionate level of Jewish control over the banks. At this point in time the Nazis were desperately short of funds. As Goebbels lamented in his diary, the German Party was far from being in the ’pocket of big business’. A little time later - 70% of all corporate banks were controlled by the Reich. And as their grip took hold, the Nazis began to introduce a series of proposals that would include banning trading in stocks and bonds, limiting interest by law to five percent and confiscating all profits acquired by inflation (the fascist government led by former Socialist leader, Benito Mussolini also handled the crisis in this way, going so far as nationalising the holdings of large banks and demanding urgent economic policies to halt inflation: see Corporatism and Economic Fascism).

And so the Third Way1 was born - a much sought-after compromise between capitalism and communism, anti-capitalism, and totalitarianism (an economic solution favoured by the likes of the Fabian Society, Bill Clinton and Tony Blair but extending back to to the fascists and progressives of the late 19th century and to religious leaders like Pope Pope Pius XI †).

In the aftermath of the Great Depression, the Nazi party blamed the country's economic breakdown on the comprehensive failure of extreme capitalism - the over-rewarded, arrogant, self-interested behavior of city 'fat cats'. In a way that would pre-figure the likes of Gordon Brown and the European Socialists some 75 years later, it was determined that Europe would benefit from an urgent reform of the international financial system.

Tony Blair and the former German Chancellor, Gerhard Schröder had first tried to revive the Third Way in June 1999 with the publication of Europe: The Third Way - Die Neue Mitte - a manifesto attributed to Blair and Schröder but ghost-written by celebrated Third Way guru, Peter Mandelson. In an article written for the Guardian in 2002 Mandelson reiterated his belief that we were 'moving beyond the solutions of old left and new right' and placed a request for the 'wider distribution of opportunity and a stronger sense of community'.

This week Europes G8 leaders decided that the old post-war international financial institutions were out of date. It seems ironic then, that the Third Way solution favoured by our politicians recalls that of pre-war Nazi Germany.

Meanwhile, Schröder and Mandelson's vision - whilst delayed - is to be partially realised.

Downing Street Logo for the Progressive Governance Summit, April 2008 - the logo was later replaced
Although more amusing perhaps than sinister, the Government logo used for the 'Progressive Governance' Summit in London in April 2008 (and at which Mandelson and Miliband re-launched 'Third Way') bore an uncanny resemblance to the Nazi swastika. Downing Street apoligised for the 'hiccup' and instructed the designers to replace it 2. Full Story at The Independent

Of course, it isn't the first time New Labour have flirted with uncomfortably fascist and centrist politcal strands, however asymetrical their actual likeness.

Nazism, a continuation of German National Socialism, resembles New Labour (and the even Newer Economic Socialism3) in a series of informal ways. For instance, both parties stress the importance of the ‘collective’ and the role played by a strong community; the rights of the collective over and above the individual. For this we have Rousseau’s 'Social Contract' to thank, generally considered the precursor to modern collectivist politics and developed more recently by New Labour (how else can we explain Lord Goldsmith and Ruth Kelly’s unpopular 'allegiance oath' and their aggressive bid to strengthen the British Identity through schoolchildren?). And in addition to the pair’s ‘collectivist’ bids, we also have ‘anti-capitalism’, ‘totalitarianism’ and ‘expansionism’ - promoting economic growth by a combination of military aggression and economic reorganisation (albeit in a more discreet way than the Nazis). And even if Blair clearly didn't share the abstentionist position of true Communists, his centralist, anti-parliamentarian disregard for the traditional democratic process - or his Republican idealism, if you prefer - surfaced in an almost presidential approach to office.

The result? A 'European Socialist Republic' - shaped by the reformist hand of Mandelson and the 'iron discipline' of the New Labour regime.

In a way that recalls the fascism of Mussolini, New Labour offers the usual pretext of 'spiritual guidance' to its people, alleging to resolve group conflicts as part of Britain's broader organisational mission. Britain portrays itself as a an arbiter with a role in allocating resources and privileges to disadvantaged groups rather than an aggressive state enforcing rules of behaviour and conduct on others (the 'liberation' of Iraq and Afghanistan, for instance). The extreme fascism of Nazi Germany in the1930s saw a similar extension of state powers and moral pretexts as it morphed from National Socialism in the grotesque and rabid creature it became in the early 40s.

And then there are the shared pursuits of mass surveillance and fear mongering.

The German National Socialists were convinced it was the Jews who had undermined Germany's chances of winning World War 1. They believed that they had colluded with the opposition and betrayed the German people. In much the same way that New Britain sees our Muslim contingent, Germany saw the Jewish community as the 'enemy within'. Of course it was based on little more than paranoia; a blanket denial of its own failures and the economic returns on its own aggressive will. And this is exactly what is happening in 'New Britain'. Fascism never arises out of strength - it arises when an inexperienced new power feels challenged. Nazism arose not out of the evil of just one man - but out of the self-determination of the demoralised masses. It is a symptom not a cause, and if the exact conditions out of which Nazism arose originally were to be faithfully reproduced (either by accident or design) it can certainly all happen again.

All it requires is the right kind of crisis.

And as British Ministers prepare to place a statutory limit on the number of foreigners entering the country and the tabloids start rushing out stories about immigrants and even al-Qaeda suspects stealing our jobs and draining our welfare system 4 we are hearing the first birth cries of its revival.

That BBC News 24 and New Labour are branding the financial crisis in way that Hugo Boss, Albert Speer or even former US Senator Prescott Bush would be proud of, reveals the enthusiasm that both parties share for cashing in on the crisis. Roll your mouse of the BBC News desk’s ‘Global Financial Crisis’ logo and you’ll see exactly what I mean: ‘Global Financial Crisis Brand’ declares the text-tag.

It’s the very latest in 'disaster chic', and Brown and his ‘war cabinet’ have become the unlikely poster boys for it. Why make a disaster out of a crisis? Because it’s the fear factory’s best selling product to date, that’s why. It’s simple; disaster sells. One look at the newspapers will tell you that, their language fortified with all manner of disaster imagery, natural or otherwise: ‘meltdown’, ‘collapse’, ‘tsunami’, ‘destruction’, ‘shockwaves’, ‘the abyss’, ‘catastrophe’, ‘the economic equivalent of 9/11’, ‘government on a war footing’, ‘battle’, ‘fight’.

It’s those old shock and awe tactics again: manufacturing a crisis (that our leaders will spectacularly surmount) and destroying the will of an already punchdrunk public to fight at the next elections. The discourse of crisis, which transcends all linguistic boundaries, restores and reinforces the fascination of the status quo. When faced with chaos and uncertainty even the loyal and unswerving nature of your master's cruelty is likely to become the most favoured outcome. The first and last withdrawal made is always that of reality. Whether its the collapsing of towers, some radical shift in climate or some shiny red London Bus exploding in Central London, the shockwaves are felt more deeply at a symbolic level. The dark executive fictions of the crisis may have been conceived of elsewhere, but they have been lovingly perfected by the media and our leaders. In an era almost exclusively defined by artifice and simulation it is entirely irrelevant whether the current crisis can be traced to a real historical or economic source, or whether its the combined horror of fear and speculation. It exists in our hearts and in our minds - no more substantial and no more real that the precarious sense of well-being that immediately preceded it. And that's all that really matters.

The real disaster will be at the polls.

Notes:
Sure I've taken some liberties with the phrase 'disaster capitalism' - but the irony has not been lost on me, so I'm hoping it won't be lost on you.

Highly recommend reading Naomi Klein's 'The Shock Doctrine'.

1 Third Way/Third Position Politics Explained:
EU's 'big three' in crisis, says third way guru - Guardian, 2006
'Third Way' gets world hearing, BBC 2000
Third way is the only way - Peter Mandelson, Guardian 2002
Third Way Event Splits New Labourr, Independent 2002
Nazi Germany and the Third Way/Third Position, Francis R. Nicosia. Business and Industry in Nazi Germany, Berghan Books, p. 43,
Third Position, Public Eye

2 Peter Mandelson, at that time the European Trade Commissioner for the Barroso Commission, chaired a number of debates at the Progressive Governance Summit in April 2008 . The agenda was dominated by issues regarding economic globalisation and security threats and there those who who clearly anticpated the way in which it would be resolved, some several months before the crisis was announced:

"We are facing a global financial crisis which is probably the first truly global financial crisis of the modern world. "We have to reform our global financial institutions. It is absolutely clear that the national supervision that we have is inadequate and we need a global agreement." - Number10.gov.uk, April 2008

Anybody who considers the re-appointment of Peter Mandelson to the British Cabinet to be a surprise event must have been going around with their ears and eyes closed for the last 12 months.

As for the embarrassing Swastika logo? I think most people by now will be familar with the complex history of the symbol, widely used in many worldwide religions. It's relevance here is that of 'prosperity' (the tag message reads, 'Promoting Prosperity'). Jewish swastikas have been found in ancient synagogues side-by-side with the star of David. However, it seems unlikely that the irony would have been lost on the Summit organisers, nor on the party's generous Jewish backers.

3 Vincent Cable, the Liberal democrat Shadow Chancellor refers to the same thing as 'Economic Nationalism' in an article I have since read in New Statesman - The Rise of Economic Nationalism. Cable repeats my own fears that the crisis will lead to an increase in scapegoating politics and that immigrants will be the most likely targets (as they were in Nazi Germany).

4 Right on cue we get the headlines from The Daily Express - 'Exclusive: Immigrants Job Shock' - and from The Sun - 'Al-Qaeda suspect can stay ... you pay'

† In an article written in today's Independent, 'The Unholy legacy of Pope Pius XII', the newspaper describes how Pope Pius XI's immediate successor, Pope Pius XII stands accused of turning a blind eye to the Holocaust during the war. It is certainly interesting that the Vatican was one of the first senior world figures to endorse the social and ecomonic philosophy of the 'Third Way' - which was applied by the Nazi Party as part of their reform of the country's financial systems.


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US Banking Collapse a 'Controlled Demolition'

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Amy de Miceli says: September 26, 2008 ...What does the rest of the world know that we don't? The United States Dollar is dead, while we are being jerked around by the mainstream media here at home, the rest of the world has already drawn the final conclusion for us, and what they are saying about us isn't pretty.
We are in the middle of a crisis much larger than most Americans could imagine, a portion of America can't even handle it, for that matter. The Bailout is an awful idea, and the majority of Americans realize that. There is even a provision that would grant Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson dictatorial powers, and that is obviously insane, but here we are debating it. It's like asking a dead man whether he wants to be buried or cremated; it's a non issue and Congress is just playing a game to distract the American people. We need to move ahead, and we should begin with taking our country back from the tyrants.

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Hank Paulson has already taken control of the US banking system; journalist and expert economist Max Keiser compares Paulson to the 9/11 hijackers, calling him a financial terrorist. Keiser has been making his rounds on international broadcasts, including France 24 and Press TV where he compares the collapse of the US banking system to WTC 7 - "a controlled demolition."


Our news is being filtered and the rest of the world is ready to write us off. China has asked domestic banks to stop lending to U.S. financial institutions to prevent losses. America has relied on borrowing money from foreign lenders, and China was one of the largest. We have put ourselves in debt to China, and now they have cut us off.

Meanwhile, the President of the United States is trying to scare the American people, threatening: support the Bailout or face more bank failures and a stock market crash; 401Ks will evaporate; home prices will plummet and foreclosures will rise. Sadly we face all of these things plus much worse, with or without the bailout, and our president is deceiving us and he's being aided by the media.
During his speech on Wednesday, Bush claimed to have been informed by, "The government's top economic experts" and they are warning us, "without immediate action...America could slip into a financial panic and a distressing scenario would unfold."

These experts are the same ones that led us to this economic crisis. Many have been predicting this collapse for years. Let's listen to some other economists. Yesterday Senator Shelby, ranking Republican on the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, met with the President and brought with him a 5 page list of the nation's leading economists, who do not agree with the Bailout Proposal and have offered alternatives.

The veil has been lifted for those who have eyes to see it. We are being shown who is in control of America, and it is what many of us know already - the bankers- the central bank. It is a sickening display.

Right now we are relying on the rest of the world. If they continue to dump or threaten to dump our dollar, we are sunk, and if our representatives pass the Bailout and the Fed "prints" all those billions of dollars, trillions when its all said and done, we are sunk. Our dollar will be worthless. Either way they are taking it to zero.

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It is not an ideal situation but we are in it and there are other factors bringing us to our knees.

According to the Energy Information Administration (EIA) our gasoline inventories are the lowest since 1967. The southeast is running out of gas; Asheville-Buncombe Technical Community College in North Carolina has shut down; and AAA reports that Nashville TN has the worst gas shortage, 85% of the gas stations are closed, and where you can find fuel, the wait can be 4 hours long.

Add that to the flood damaged wheat, corn and soybean crops and our supermarket shelves will be thin. What will happen when we are hungry and broke? They would expect us to be upset about that. Bush can declare himself a dictator at any time, according to PDD 51, and implement martial law for any reason. In early September an article from the Army Times went virtually unnoticed for a couple of weeks. They reported that troops will soon be patrolling our streets:
"The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

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Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day to day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or man-made emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks."

We are on our own, people. Congress is merely making a final attempt at looking sincere, as they have been profiting all along.The main stream media has no loyalty to America either. Their strings are pulled the same way by the same people. America has been hijacked. We have lost everything, and now they want to leave us broke and homeless on the continent our forefathers conquered.
We cannot let that happen. Get the mist out of your eyes and Stand.

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Is it about Damian Green or about this?


Government will buy majority stake in RBS after share snub

Nov 29 2008

TAXPAYERS will buy up a 57.9 per cent stake in the Royal Bank of Scotland after investors snubbed their £15billion share offer.

Shareholders refused the new stock because shares were trading below the 65.5p price offered in October.

The Government will step in to buy unwanted shares and shore up the bank's ailing finances - [b]leaving taxpayers with a paper loss of almost £2.5billion.[/b]

The Treasury are also pumping in £5billion for preference shares, which have special conditions such as a ban on dividends.

Yesterday, RBS chief executive Stephen Hester said: "We must put the past behind us and move forward with a clear focus on what we need to do next."
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Taxpayers lose £6.5billion as bailout banks' shares plunge
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Last updated at 2:22 PM on 12th January 2009
Taxpayers have made a loss of almost £6billion on shares they have bought or are committed to buy as the Government completes its £37billion part-nationalisation of three High Street banks this week.
Today it was confirmed that the Treasury will own nearly half the new superbank created by the forced merger of Lloyds TSB and HBOS. It already owns more than half of Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS).
Bank share prices have plunged since the Government announced its £37billion bailout of the bank sector on 13 October. Because the Treasury agreed to buy ordinary shares at a fixed price it has been left with massive losses.
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Government allowed short selling again...
Barclays and RBS shares plunged at least 25% on Friday.
Now the government is contemplating another £200billion bailout.

The Banksters are selling their shares after the share price stabilises (on condition that the government claims they will put up money) then they sell them and move into gold/diamonds whatever, just out of money.

We are heading for a global crash of immense proportions and the British government is aiding the process as quickly as possible.

UK is in freefall, warns think-tank

* Heather Stewart, economics editor
* The Observer, Sunday 18 January 2009
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Alistair Darling is bracing himself for official confirmation that Britain is in the grip of a deep recession this week, as the Ernst and Young Item Club warns that 2009 will see the sharpest peacetime contraction in the economy since 1931.

In its quarterly health check of UK plc, the think-tank, which uses the Treasury's economic model, warned that GDP would slump by 2.7% this year - much worse than the 1% decline forecast by the chancellor just two months ago in his pre-budget report.

"Things are in freefall, and it's very hard to know just how far they've got to fall," said Peter Spencer, the report's author. "Companies are planning for the worst in 2009, slashing investment plans and the workforce." He predicted the economy would continue to contract throughout 2010, instead of bouncing back later this year, as the Treasury has predicted.

Spencer urged the chancellor to implement more radical measures immediately to rescue the embattled banking sector and unfreeze lending to firms and consumers. He warned that the "paralysis" that has been afflicting the financial sector for months is rapidly spreading right across the economy.

Official figures will reveal on Friday that the economy shrank for a second successive quarter in the final three months of the year - the usual definition of being in recession.

Spencer said the sharp depreciation in the value of the pound over the past six months should help to create a more balanced economy once the credit crunch was over: "In the longer term, I think it's important to realise that this is a fundamental change."

He said the economy was likely to look very different in five or 10 years' time, as families put more money aside for hard times, and the property crash blunts Britain's appetite for speculating on bricks and mortar. "I think the whole culture will change. We need to get to the situation where people talk at dinner parties about the latest Isa, instead of the latest mortgage deal."

Analysts will scrutinise this week's data closely to see how rapidly the economy deteriorated. Michael Saunders, UK expert at Citigroup, believes it may have been the weakest three-month period for the economy since 1980. "Recent data give a picture of relentless gloom, and suggest that economic conditions continue to deteriorate at an alarming pace," he said.

Bank of England deputy governor John Gieve said in a speech on Friday that more cuts in interest rates were likely to be necessary in the coming months.
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Unless we are decisive Britain faces bankruptcy
Our financial institutions are fighting for their lives and the Treasury may not be able to bail them out
. The government needs to get serious to avert meltdown
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It's no wonder that so many Icelanders are angry. They live in a country bankrupted by the excesses of their bankers, who took on liabilities 10 times the nation's GDP, betting billions in Britain's property bubble. Bailed out only by a jumbo IMF loan, inflation and interest rates are now 18% and rising. Many are considering emigration. Only membership of the euro, if it can be secured, offers a lifeline.

Ireland made the same bet, and on Friday the government had to nationalise its third biggest bank - Anglo Irish. Like the Icelandic banks, it had been speculating in Britain's property bubble. The joke across the Irish sea is that the only difference between Ireland and Iceland is one letter and six months. But there is another, more crucial, difference. Ireland is in the euro; otherwise, like Iceland, it would be bust.

After what happened to the world's banks last week - and to Barclays Bank in particular, whose share price collapsed 25% in an hour on Friday - it's clear that Britain is at risk of being next in line. We too have a banking system that is huge in relation to our GDP, but, like Iceland, we are not in the euro. Unless we act quickly, decisively and cleverly, the difficulties of our banks could overwhelm us, triggering an enormous run on the pound. Britain, in short, risks bankruptcy.

Friday's warning from the deputy governor of the Bank of England, Sir John Gieve, that more will almost certainly have to be done to save the banking system is a statement of the obvious. As was his grim assessment that the recession will be deeper and longer than anyone thought, even late last year.

Britain's problem is threefold. We have an American-scale property crisis and a credit crunch in our own banking system. But on top, we were uniquely reliant on foreign banks and foreign capital. They support up to a third of all UK lending, and they have gone bust or fled. Britain's banks are in no position to plug the gap. So, the UK government has to put the system back together with a weak, non-reserve currency.

Events in America last week showed how the contagion in so-called investment banking - I prefer casino banking - is murdering honest-to-God commercial banking. Bank of America and Citigroup are fighting for their lives as they are engulfed by losses from their investment/casino operations.

Citigroup has had to break itself up, siphoning off its toxic assets in a separate entity insured by a $306 billion US government guarantee. Bank of America has been shattered by titanic losses in "investment bank" Merrill Lynch, which it bought just months ago. Without $20bn of taxpayer support and a $118bn guarantee of its toxic assets, it would be in receivership.

On top the US is able to keep finance flowing to its housing market only by offering federal guarantees on mortgage-backed securites. It also buys securities backed by car loans, student loans and credit card debt - anathema to the hyper-conservative Bank of England. Americans have the advantage that the dollar is the world currency - 64% of all foreign exchange reserves are held in dollars - so that it can do what it wants. Nonetheless it has taken monumental US taxpayer investment, guarantees of up to $500bn toxic loans and the willingness of the Federal Reserve to buy trillions of dollars of securitised assets even to begin to stabilise matters.

Britain, by contrast, has not begun to mobilise on anything like the same scale - even though in many respects our crisis is more acute. Barclays, for example, is in a position analogous to Citigroup and Bank of America. In 2007 close to half its profits came from "investment banking", now so perilous for its American counterparts. Barclays is the leader in so-called corporate "synthetic" structured investment vehicles - complex and even more dodgy than the securities that have brought low Citigroup and Bank of America. On Friday credit-rating agency Moodys announced new and more demanding criteria for how "synthetics" will be valued in future - implying that bank guarantors will need to find billions extra in capital to support them. Barclays could have to raise up to another £10bn capital to support its investment bank operation; impossible, except from the taxpayer. With the ban on short selling lifted on Friday - an asinine genuflection to the interests of hedge funds - it was an obvious target. The bank rushed out a statement late in the evening declaring good 2008 profits and solid capital ratios. But the issue is 2009, given the new rules. A taxpayer bail-out for Barclays - a view shared by a growing number of officials, if not all - is close to inevitable.

The prime minister is incandescent; the bank has not been straight with either the government or its shareholders about its balance-sheet risks. It did not share in the first round of bank recapitalisation, instead raising cripplingly expensive funds from Arab sovereign wealth funds. When Britain needs all its big banks to act together to stop a credit crunch-induced slump, Barclays, putting its own interests - and bonuses - first instead triggers a second phase of the crisis.

HSBC may also need to raise money - £20bn in the view of analysts at Morgan Stanley. But although it is headquartered in London and formally the responsibility of the UK, the Hong Kong Monetary Authority (a lesson here for the Bank of England and FSA?) has independently regulated its Asian operations, and strictly. It is not - a Barclays, RBS or HBOS - yet. UK depositors owe Hong Kong a thank you.

The cumulative cost of what has to be done is stunning, thanks to the City being such a vast part of our economy. The government must ensure that the banking system, Barclays included, has got sufficient capital to underpin the outstanding loans (at a much cheaper rate). Next it has to be prepared, like the Americans, to offer insurance guarantees on toxic loans which freeze the banks from new lending. Then it has to offer US-style guarantees on new issues of financial securities backed by mortgages, student loans, company loans and even credit card debt; and the Bank of England must be instructed to buy them.

On top of this, there is a budget deficit next year of £118bn, which may have to increase again - with another big Obama-style fiscal stimulus - if the recession deepens. My view is that the financial markets will accept actual spending only if Britain pre-announces that after financial stabilisation has worked, it intends to join the euro - otherwise we will find ourselves in the same position as Iceland.

These are the grimmest economic circumstances since the 1930s. Lives and businesses are being wrecked as I write. There will be little appetite for my proposed measures; how much better to hope that we can muddle through, looking for "green shoots" of recovery and doing little radical.

But after last week the government - and the opposition - have to get serious. Britain is on the edge.
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Britain is on the edge.
And if history is still capable of teaching us anything, the next phase, once all yer average joes are on the breadline and desperate, is...ta da...

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Goldstein would be so very pleased.

Isn't it time the chief architects of the global meltdown got just a little more exposure? The Red Shield is not utterly impermeable, surely?
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Thermate911 wrote:
Britain is on the edge.
And if history is still capable of teaching us anything, the next phase, once all yer average joes are on the breadline and desperate, is...ta da...

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Goldstein would be so very pleased.

Isn't it time the chief architects of the global meltdown got just a little more exposure? The Red Shield is not utterly impermeable, surely?
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Guns are rarely given to people in times of total distress.
Distress has to occur for a number of years and the media have sell some type of 'victimhood mentality'.
These dont exist for Anglo-American societies.

What is amazing is that Brown just recently declared 'he didn't see the crash coming'.

I know he's only got one eye and it doesn't help his vision, but surely what he actually means, is that as a one eyed bandit he lied and is now trying to finish us all off handing over as much money as possible to the banksters before the Titanic sinks...
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What the controlled newsnetworks never show...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 2640914919
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Let banks fail, says Nobel economist Joseph Stiglitz



The Government should allow every distressed bank to go bankrupt and set up a fresh banking system under temporary state control rather than cripple the country by propping up a corrupt edifice, according to Joseph Stiglitz, the Nobel Prize-winning economist.


By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Davos
Last Updated: 8:29AM GMT 02 Feb 2009



Professor Stiglitz, the former chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, told The Daily Telegraph that Britain should let the banks default on their vast foreign operations and start afresh with new set of healthy banks.

"The UK has been hit hard because the banks took on enormously large liabilities in foreign currencies. Should the British taxpayers have to lower their standard of living for 20 years to pay off mistakes that benefited a small elite?" he said.

"There is an argument for letting the banks go bust. It may cause turmoil but it will be a cheaper way to deal with this in the end. The British Parliament never offered a blanket guarantee for all liabilities and derivative positions of these banks," he said.

Mr Stiglitz said the Government should underwrite all deposits to protect the UK's domestic credit system and safeguard money markets that lubricate lending. It should use the skeletons of the old banks to build a healthier structure.

"The new banks will be more credible once they no longer have these liabilities on their back."

Mr Stiglitz said the City of London would survive the shock of such a default because it would uphold the principle of free market responsibility. "Counter-parties entered into voluntary agreements with the banks and they must accept the consequences," he said.

Such a drastic course of action would be fraught with difficulties and risks, however. It would leave healthy banks in an untenable position since they would have to compete for funds in the markets with state-run entities.

Mr Stiglitz's radical proposal is a "Chapter 11" scheme for households to allow them to bring their debts under control without having to go into bankruptcy. "Families matter just as much as firms. The US government can borrow at 1pc so why can't it lend directly to poor people for mortgages at 4pc. ," he said.
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How the bankers are going to abscond with millions of dollars Max Kaiser

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Two dynamite sites:

If you haven't come across this guy's work before, you'll love it.

http://cafr1.com/Video/AZBC.wmv

And another, Katherine Fitts' blog:

http://solari.com/blog/?p=2058
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£25 BILLION in the red.
CEO leaving with a pension of £650k after going hand in hand to the taxpayer for a bailout.

Until and when BANKSTERS are placed on a cleaners wage, then and only then will we have a logical outcome to these inevitable bailouts.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqDYL4wrLm8[/youtube]

From the mouths of babies........
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outsider wrote:Two dynamite sites:

If you haven't come across this guy's work before, you'll love it.

http://cafr1.com/Video/AZBC.wmv

And another, Katherine Fitts' blog:

http://solari.com/blog/?p=2058
Ahem!!!! I wondered why no one had taken this link (highlighted in my post above) up; I just tried it, and it ain't what I meant to put up; I don't know how it happened.

BUT CHECK THIS SITE OUT, AND WATCH PARTICULARLY 'THE BIGGEST GAME IN TOWN' video; and hold onto your seats!! This is the Dynamite site:

http://cafr1.com/

Again, I apologise for mixup; I really cannot see how it occured.
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Prompted by the outpouring of 'doom & gloom' on the economic front, I noticed that the majority of 'reports' and attendant hand-wringing are about symptoms not causes.

So I came here and re-read this thread right through. I still see people reporting symptoms more than pointing fingers at the prime movers. OK, it could be argued that is was merely a case of a few thousand rampant trough-feeders but the numbers just don't add up.

What I am trying to discover is where all the value went. The bubble was not just hot air, there was tangible value until the PTB pulled the plug. So, somewhere in the world there is 'multi-trillion' dollar$ in value (aka resources) stashed away.

For what? From the perspective of the prime movers it is not a catasrophe, it's an opportunity.

For what?

Something much too big to let humanity at large know about?

Enslavement doesn't require such quantities of 'value' to carry out...
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Thermate911 wrote:Prompted by the outpouring of 'doom & gloom' on the economic front, I noticed that the majority of 'reports' and attendant hand-wringing are about symptoms not causes.

So I came here and re-read this thread right through. I still see people reporting symptoms more than pointing fingers at the prime movers. OK, it could be argued that is was merely a case of a few thousand rampant trough-feeders but the numbers just don't add up.

What I am trying to discover is where all the value went. The bubble was not just hot air, there was tangible value until the PTB pulled the plug. So, somewhere in the world there is 'multi-trillion' dollar$ in value (aka resources) stashed away.

For what? From the perspective of the prime movers it is not a catasrophe, it's an opportunity.

For what?

Something much too big to let humanity at large know about?

Enslavement doesn't require such quantities of 'value' to carry out...
Yep it is that simple we have been robbed kinda the opposite to Robin Hood!!
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In an number-crunching article entitled "How much of AIG’s bailout/handout is financing Israeli mortgages in Jerusalem & the West Bank?" ...
On March 3, 2009, this exchange took place in the august and hallowed halls of what used to be known as the Congress of a Constitutional Republic:

With One Word, Bernanke Reveals Who Actually Runs the Country:

Senator Sanders: “Will you tell the American people to whom you lent $2.2 trillion of their dollars?”

Ben Bernanke: “No.”

One can only surmise Bernanke’s reasoning. He claims he doesn’t want to spook the banks and the markets or some such claptrap. I have another possible reason: Bernanke, being an Orthodox Jew, doesn’t want the American public to get any inkling of Israel’s share of the various bailouts.
Much more at:
http://jezekiah.wordpress.com/2009/03/0 ... west-bank/

Am I being anti-Semitic by posting this? And me 1/8th Jewish? Oy vey!

Just trying to tot up the numbers and 'make sense' of the scale of the heist.

Anyone peered into Fort Knox recently? Or considered Kissinger's West Bank property...

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"It is well that people do not understand our banking and
monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." -- Henry Ford (1863-1947)
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AIG gives out $100 million in bonuses, after massive 'bailout' (eat your heart out, Dick Turpin!):

http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na

Thanks, toothfairy!
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