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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Abu Hamza - MI6's fake cleric puppet is 'transported' Reply with quote

Just like Haroon Aswat it seems the preferred option is to get these people out of the UK - just in case they may be needed here to testify against those who helped them infiltrate the Finsbury Park Mosque. And stopped the Met. from acting when the real Muslims at Finsbury Park tried to warn the police about Aswat and Hamza before 7/7.



How disgusting these extra-judicial crooks are - whoever heard of someone being extradited whilst serving a sentence here - what if he wins his case in the US? will they let him go?!?!! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

And how pathetic the unquestioning UK media.

Intelligence agencies playing games with the law


Britain to extradite Hamza 'the hook' to US

LONDON: Britain has decided to extradite radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza, aka “the hook”, to the US to be tried for alleged terrorist activity.

The high court ruling rejected imputations by Hamza’s lawyers that the American extradition request was based on the “fruits of torture”.

The ruling is a further blow to the Egyptian-born preacher who is currently serving a seven-year jail term here for inciting murder and race hate. The 7/7 London bombers were inspired by Hamza’s sermons and the would-be bombers who caused panic throughout the London transport system on July 21 worshipped at the Finsbury Park mosque where he was once the imam.

Many see Hamza’s forthcoming extradition as one of the first triumphs of the streamlined Anglo-American extradition treaty. In May 2004, Hamza was the first person to be arrested under the treaty for a range of 11 offences including sending cash to al-Qaida and attempting to set up an al-Qaida training camp in Bly, Oregon. Hamza, a powerfully-built, one-eyed giant of a man is a controversial figure in Britain, provoking horror for his exhortations to kill non-Muslims as part of a “halal” lifestyle......

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This article on Aswat long gone from the New Criminologist website, a magazine which is also long gone. Funny peculiar that.

"This is the guy [Aswat], and what's really embarrassing is that the entire British police are out chasing him, and one wing of the British government, MI6 or the British Secret Service, has been hiding him.


London Bombing ringleader, Haroon Rashid Aswat - double agent for MI6?
Published on 23 August 2005 | Author BERRY-DEE, Christopher.

http://www.newcriminologist.co.uk/news.asp?id=1124824797
http://web.archive.org/web/20060829031402/http://www.newcriminologist. co.uk/news.asp?id=1124824797

In a lengthy statement that will send shockwaves around the world, John Loftus, a terrorism expert and a former prosecutor for the US Justice Department, has publically revealed that the so called mastermind of the 7/7 London Bombings, Haroon Rashid Aswat, is a British "Intelligence Asset".

A TNC US-based source has sent us extraordinary fully verifiable information, along with a filmed interview during which Loftus makes his accusations.

We are double-checking with our contact - a former long-time colleague of former FBI Counter Terrorism Special Agent and Al-Qaeda hunter, John O'Neill, who died in the 9/11 Twin Towers disaster.

Former Justice Dept. prosecutor and terror expert, John Loftus, revealed that the so-called Al-Muhajiroun group, based in London had formed during the Kosovo crisis, during which Fundamentalist Muslim Leaders (Or what is now referred to as Al Qaeda) were recruited by MI6 to fight in Kosovo.

Loftus stated that "...back in the late 1990s, the leaders all worked for British intelligence in Kosovo. Believe it or not, British intelligence actually hired some Al-Qaeda guys to help defend the Muslim rights in Albania and in Kosovo. That's when Al-Muhajiroun got started."

In a blistering attack on MI6 John Loftus went on to spell out that British Intelligence and the US Dept of Justice had protected Haroon Rashid Aswat:

"Back in 1999 he came to America. The Justice Department wanted to indict him in Seattle because him and his buddy were trying to set up a terrorist training school in Oregon... we've just learned that the headquarters of the US Justice Department ordered the Seattle prosecutors not to touch Aswat... apparently Aswat was working for British intelligence."

This story has been around for some weeks, the TNC reports, but it has always been 'dressed up' as a slight 'difference of opinion' between the FBI and MI6, with the Home Office claiming that they have been reluctant to hand Aswat over to the US authorities because he is a British national.

But, senior US intelligence officials are said to be fuming, claiming that everytime they got close to detaining Aswat, wherever he is in the world, he slips through the net.

Loftus claims in an unprecedented attack on MI6 that this is startling and again highlights how Al Qaeda exists as an organized body only where the intelligence services have created, funded and employed it. Loftus points out that several weeks before the London Bombings, Aswat was again located by the South African Intel agency but was again allowed to slip away, this time to London:

"He was a British intelligence plant. So all of a sudden he disappears. He's in South Africa. We think he's dead; we don't know he's down there. Last month the South African Secret Service come across the guy. He's alive...the Brits know that the CIA wants to get a hold of Haroon. So what happens? He takes off again, goes right to London. He isn't arrested when he lands, he isn't arrested when he leaves... He's on the watch list. The only reason he could get away with that was if he was working for British intelligence. He was a wanted man."

Loftus' information is also backed up by the New York Times and CNN who reported on this incident, however, the internet link to the London Independent's article has mysteriously disappeared.

If proven, the ramifications of John Loftus's claims - and he is supported by many FBI agents - could be that the London bombings could have been prevented if Haroon Aswat had been taken into custody long ago.

TNC's US source writes:

"It is now believed that British born Haroon Rashid Aswat was the brains behind the London attacks on July 7th in which 56 died and 700 were wounded. During the investigation of the London attacks the British police and American intelligence sources were able to determine that Aswat had received on his portable telephone a score of calls from the four suspects in the July 7th London attacks. The Times asserts that Aswat stated that he had been a bodyguard of Osama Bin Laden. This would have made him the 2nd highest- ranking Al Qaeda member in Britain. Haroon Rashid Aswat was an aide to the cleric, Abu Hamza Al-Masri. Abu Hamza was listed by USA intelligence sources as a suspected terrorist financier because of links to the Islamic Army of Aden, an Al Qaeda-associated group and the 2000 attack on the U.S. warship the USS Cole in Yemen. For 10 years Aswat had associated with militant Muslim groups and had been to Khalden, the Al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan. Haroon Rashid Aswat is also known to have ties to South Africa and Johannesburg and suspected of involvement in planning the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen.

"Aswat had long been the object of US and British intelligence surveillance. Haroon Aswat had entered to Zambia on July 6, 2005. He was arrested on July 20, 2005 in Lusaka for "terrorist activities" and "infringements with the rules of immigration".

Loftus added:

"This is the guy [Aswat], and what's really embarrassing is that the entire British police are out chasing him, and one wing of the British government, MI6 or the British Secret Service, has been hiding him. And this has been a real source of contention between the CIA, the Justice Department, and Britain' he is a double agent.

The CIA and the Israelis all accused MI6 of letting all these terrorists live in London not because they're getting Al-Qaeda information, but for appeasement. It was one of those you leave us alone, we leave you alone kind of things."

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J7: Haroon Rashid Aswat thread.

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Abu Hamza 'secretly worked for MI5' to 'keep streets of London safe'
Radical Islamic preacher helped police and British intelligence 'defuse tensions with the Muslim community', his lawyer claims
A court drawing of Abu Hamza taking notes in Manhattan federal court, New York Photo: JANE ROSENBERG/REUTERS

By Philip Sherwell, New York 7:41PM BST 07 May 2014
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10814816/Ab u-Hamza-secretly-worked-for-MI5-to-keep-streets-of-London-safe.html

Abu Hamza, the radical Islamic preacher notorious for his hate-filled sermons, was in reality working secretly with British intelligence "to keep the streets of London safe" by "cooling hotheads", his lawyer claimed in a US court.

Holding up what he said were reports from Scotland Yard, Joshua Dratel described the cleric as an "intermediary" who cooperated with MI5 and the police to try to end foreign hostage-takings and defuse tensions with the Muslim community in Britain.

The extraordinary admission will fuel conspiracy theories that he was allowed to preach hatred without arrest for so long in the UK because he was working with the security authorities

His portrayal of the fiery Egyptian-born imam presented a very different picture from the one laid out by earlier by prosecutors who have accused him of operating a global terror network from the Finsbury Park mosque in north London.

Mr Dratel, the lead defence attorney, made the startling claim as Hamza prepared to take the witness box in his own defence in his New York trial where he has pleaded not guilty to 11 charges of terrorism.

The lawyer was arguing against a prosecution request for the judge to block the cleric from talking about any dealings with British authorities that did not relate directly to the allegations against him in court.

Hamza was extradited to the US in 2012 after serving a six-year jail term in Britain for inciting racial hatred and soliciting murder.

During his trial in the UK in 2006, Hamza claimed he was in regular discussions with MI5 and Special Branch between 1997 and 2000.

He claimed then that he was told he could continue to preach “as long as we don’t see blood on the street”.

The alleged discussions occurred at a time of heightened concern in the UK over the amount of Islamist extremists sheltering here, which led to the nickname “Londonistan”.

Hamza told the Old Bailey then that it was not until 2000 that he was then warned he was “walking a tightrope”.

In New York, he now faces much more serious charges of funnelling cash and recruits to al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, involvement in a hostage-taking in Yemen in which three Britons were killed and trying to set up a jihad training camp in Oregon.

The cleric, who is on trial just a few streets from the scene of the Sept 2001 terrorist strikes on the World Trade Centre, has previously praised those 9/11 attacks as a "towering day in history" and lauded Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaeda founder.

But Mr Dratel contended that his client was in fact just making those outrageous statements to appeal to parts of the Muslim community.

"He's going to testify that he took a certain position publicly for a certain reason, but at the same time his intention was to de-escalate, to avoid wider war and to keep the streets of London safe," Mr Dratel told Judge Katherine Forrest in deliberations before the jury was ushered into the federal courtroom.

He said that Hamza expressed his true "intent" in discussions with Scotland Yard and MI5. "It goes to the theme of our defence that he was an intermediary, that MI5 asked him on multiple times to act in hostage situations, cool down the community and maintain a sense of order," he argued.

Mr Dratel said he was working from 50 pages of reports of Scotland Yard – "their notes of what was said" – in dealings with Hamza between May 1997 and August 2000, the period covered by US charges against him.

"The documents were provided by the UK," he said. "They touch on virtually every conflict that we are talking about in this case – Algeria, Bosnia, Yemen, Afghanistan."

The fact that Hamza was able to preach publicly in Britain for so long before he was apprehended fuelled rumours that he was in some way being protected by the police or security services, but there was never any confirmation of this.

Mr Dratel cited specific cases in which he said that the British authorities turned to Hamza for his assistance.

After arrests were made in Britain related to the civil war in Algeria, Hamza was asked "how the community is reacting and how to keep the community in equilibrium", he said. "He agreed to do so and made proposals."

On another occasion, when a British captive was taken in Kashmir, Hamza was reportedly asked to try to intervene as he had connections with the hostage-taking group from his time in Afghanistan in the 1980s. Mr Dratel said his client made "some phone calls" but was unable to help.

And the lawyer said that after two suspects in the 1998 US embassy bombings in east Africa were subsequently arrested in Britain, there was a discussion between Hamza and the authorities about "cooling the hotheads".

Hamza lost both his arms and an eye in Afghanistan, but the US judicial authorities have removed his famous prosthetic hook as a security risk to himself and others.

Instead, he used a prosthetic limb with a pen attached to scribble notes on post-it paper and passed them to his lawyers sitting next to him in the wood-panelled courtroom on the 15th floor, overlooking lower Manhattan.

Wearing a light blue T-shirt and black track suit bottoms, with a silver beard and his steel-rimmed glasses held in place by a cord around his neck, he struck a much less sinister figure than the ranting imam who delivered incendiary statements and sermons in London.

The jury later watched in rapt attention as a New Zealand woman described the terrifying ordeal of a group of Western tourists taken hostage by Islamic radicals in Yemen in 1998. Three Britons were killed in an intense gun-battle with Yemeni soldiers as the militants used their captives as human shields.

Hamza is accused of helping to organise the hostage-taking to obtain the release of several Britons, including his son, who had been arrested with suspected bomb-making equipment by Yemen.

Mary Quin, the witness, went to the Finsbury Park mosque in 2000 to confront Hamza about his alleged role and taped the encounter. In excerpts played to the court, he told her that the hostage-taking was justified "Islamically" and that it was intended to help secure the release of "my people".

He acknowledged speaking to the lead kidnapper during the crisis and that he had provided the gang with a satellite phone.

Hamza, who faces a life sentence if convicted, has pleaded not guilty to all charges.

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MI5 approved my preaching, Abu Hamza tells Old Bailey

By Cahal Milmo Friday 20 January 2006 01:00

Abu Hamza has begun a robust denial of claims that he urged his followers to murder non-believers. The 47-year-old preacher, who faces 15 charges including soliciting murder, entered the witness box at the Old Bailey yesterday to insist that his sermons were not intended to stir up racism and hatred among Muslim congregations across Britain.

During his first day of giving evidence, the radical Muslim cleric revealed that his preaching at locations including the Finsbury Park Mosque in north London had been tacitly approved by MI5. He said his non-religious work had once included overseeing building work at Sandhurst, the officer training college of the British Army, currently attended by Prince William and Prince Harry.


Dressed in a pale blue shalwar kameez, Mr Hamza told the court that in his first job as a civil engineer in 1989 he had been in charge of the large-scale project at Sandhurst and retained detailed drawings of its layout and perimeter fence.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/mi5-approved-my-preaching- abu-hamza-tells-old-bailey-6111222.html

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