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SHERITON HOTEL
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:47 am    Post subject: Put Options - where does the trail end? Reply with quote

One of the usual suspects on the Channel 4 news forum is claiming the 'Put Options' on the 9/11 AA and UA shares anomoly has been put to bed, he's spun some rationale for it but to date hasn't divulged the details to my knowledge, anyone know anything?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put to bed in the sense that the SEC investigated it and found that the purchasers were not linked to Al QuaEda so it was therefore not suspicious. No actual mention of who these purchasers were though
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.911myths.com/html/put_options.html

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_ timeline&before_9/11=insiderTrading

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=deutsche_bank

http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html

It certainly hasn't been put to bed to my satisfaction. It's not like you can walk in off the street and buy put options. The SEC will have a record of who profitted from 9/11 related put options but this information has never been released. We are just expected to take the commission's word for it that there was no connection between those who profitted and those responsible for 9/11 and no insider foreknowledge, unless this oracle on the channel 4 forums would care to enlighten us all
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't the company who took the Put Options headed by a corrupt CIA 'Big Cheese' ? I vaguely recall that from 'Everyone's got to learn Sometime'
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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“To the embarrassment of investigators, it has also [learned] that the firm used to buy many of the ‘put’ options… on United Airlines stock was headed until 1998 by ‘Buzzy’ Krongard, now executive director of the CIA.” Krongard was chairman of Alex Brown Inc., which was bought by Deutsche Bank. “His last post before resigning to take his senior role in the CIA was to head Bankers Trust—Alex Brown’s private client business, dealing with the accounts and investments of wealthy customers around the world.” [Independent, 10/14/2001]


The options were bought through Deutsche Bank but we still don't know who the customer was.

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Mayo Shattuck III resigns, effective immediately, as head of the Alex Brown unit of Deutsche Bank. No reason is given. Some speculate later that this could have to do with the role of Deutsche Bank in the pre-9/11 purchases of put options on the stock of companies most affected by 9/11. Deutsche Bank is also one of the four banks most used by the bin Laden family. [New York Times, 9/15/2001; Wall Street Journal, 9/27/2001]


Be good to question this man!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its bloody crazy that people are saying its been put to bed because it wasnt linked to Al Qaueda....I could have told them that years ago.

Of course it wasnt linked to Al Qaeda, they didnt organize it!

If the wont say who did its hardly UN-suspicious is it??? Rolling Eyes

Usual pish

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Total Pish!
(Nice one Snowy Laughing )

... anyway, anyone who has some spare cash and looking to invest, try buying shares on the Stock Market without providing your full ID details?

I bet ya can't! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The number of holes in 911 OCT and yet the media will not expose any of it. Any reporter with an IQ in 3 figures could see for themselves it has to be an inside job of some kind. How many reporters in MSM. And not one gets to tell the truth. That's control.

Of course they know who bought the put options. From day one and probably even before the planes struck. Someone's name is on the purchase - either of the optiond, or the broker was working on their behalf.

Have they really admitted they know who placed the bets but because the face didn't fit the OCT they ignore the evidence?

Bare-faced!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rodin,
I don't think it's about IQs. It's about jobs and revenues!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this the same as the 'put options'?
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In weeks before 9/11, Between August 26 and September 11, 2001, a group of speculators, identified by the American Securities and Exchange Commission as Israeli citizens, sold "short" a list of 38 stocks that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the pending attacks. These speculators operated out of the Toronto, Canada and Frankfurt, Germany, stock exchanges and their profits were specifically stated to be "in the millions of dollars."
Short selling of stocks involves the opportunity to gain large profits by passing shares to a friendly third party, then buying them back when the price falls. Precedings a traumatic event, it indicates foreknowledge.
Source: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/04/315296.shtml 'ISRAELIS were 9-11 short sale stock buyers, betting on WTC terror strikes.'
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put options are a form of short selling. A put option has limited risk (the purchase price). If price falls below a threshold within the time of the contract they are deemed 'in the money' - ie showing a profit. If you know a big fall is coming, you can buy a large numer of cheap options at a strike price that is way below what the market expects to happen. Thus you can multiply your investment many times.

Mostly put options expire worthless. Their original role was to hedge against a fall in the value of a real commodity coming to market. Sort of insurance for the likes of cattle ranchers etc. Now of course they are part of the global casino.

The post above does not provide more than hearsay that Israelis placed the put options. They may have. However, the sums involved, while huge for us, are trivial compared to the scale of the 911 crime. I suspect done by lower level lackeys for whom the risk seemed worth the reward.

I recommend reading the replies to the above article.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did you post 'Buckingham Palace'?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAVE BOUGHT THE PUTS VIA NOMINEE ACCOUNTS.

so only the actual broker will know.
But this could be a red herring.
I had a thought that the people who did 911
They made $7,200,000,000.00 from the insurance rip off
they made $1,200,000,000.00 from the gold bullion robbery
so why would they they want to expose themselves for a couple of millions?
maybe the put options is a deliberate diversion trail leading to some fake al quada account
remember the put options were not exercised implies that it is a deliberate diversion

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