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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:32 pm    Post subject: The REAL Al-Qaeda works for the CIA Reply with quote

Article from http://kurtnimmo.com

Al-Qaeda the Database Unbound
Saturday November 19th 2005, 9:12 am

In a lengthy excerpt posted on Wayne Madsen’s site, Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former agent for French military intelligence, explains the origins of the word “al-Qaeda.” As previously noted by British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook , “al-Qaeda” has nothing to do with a terrorist organization, as the neocons and the corporate media tell us over and over, ad infinitum, but is in fact a database. “In the early 1980s the Islamic Bank for Development, which is located in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, like the Permanent Secretariat of the Islamic Conference Organization, bought a new computerized system to cope with its accounting and communication requirements,” Bunel explains. “It was decided to use a part of the system’s memory to host the Islamic Conference’s database. It was possible for the countries attending to access the database by telephone: an Intranet, in modern language. The governments of the member-countries as well as some of their embassies in the world were connected to that network.” Files associated to the database were called “Q eidat il-Maaloomaat” and “Q eidat i-Taaleemaat” in Arabic. “Those two files were kept in one file called in Arabic ‘Q eidat ilmu’ti’aat’ which is the exact translation of the English word database. But the Arabs commonly used the short word Al Qaida which is the Arabic word for ‘base.’”

Because of the presence of ‘rogue states,’ it became easy for terrorist groups to use the email of the database. Hence, the email of Al Qaida was used, with some interface system, providing secrecy, for the families of the mujaheddin to keep links with their children undergoing training in Afghanistan, or in Libya or in the Beqaa valley, Lebanon. Or in action anywhere in the battlefields where the extremists sponsored by all the ‘rogue states’ used to fight. And the ‘rogue states’ included Saudi Arabia. When Osama bin Laden was an American agent in Afghanistan, the Al Qaida Intranet was a good communication system through coded or covert messages…. Al Qaida was neither a terrorist group nor Osama bin Laden’s personal property.

In short, “al-Qaeda” was in essence an email designation and had nothing to do with the “American agent in Afghanistan,” Osama bin Laden. In fact, “al-Qaeda,” the terrorist organization, is a creation of the United States government and the corporate media.

Pierre-Henry Bunel concludes:

The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the ‘devil’ only in order to drive the ‘TV watcher’ to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US and the lobbyists for the US war on terrorism are only interested in making money.

Bunel, according to Madsen, was punished for his heresy. In December, 2001, the former French military intelligence agent was “convicted by a secret French military court of passing classified documents that identified potential NATO bombing targets in Serbia to a Serbian agent during the Kosovo war in 1998…. Bunel’s character witnesses and psychologists notwithstanding, the system ‘got him’ for telling the truth about Al Qaeda and who has actually been behind the terrorist attacks commonly blamed on that group.”

It is noteworthy that that Yugoslav government, the government with whom Bunel was asserted by the French government to have shared information, claimed that Albanian and Bosnian guerrillas in the Balkans were being backed by elements of “Al Qaeda.” We now know that these guerrillas were being backed by money provided by the Bosnian Defense Fund, an entity established as a special fund at Bush-influenced Riggs Bank and directed by Richard Perle and Douglas Feith.

Riggs Bank was used for “the dubious financial machinations of Saudi diplomats and despots from Africa and South America, including Chile’s former maximum leader, Gen. Augusto Pinochet,” according to Jack Shafer, writing for Slate, and citing Glenn R. Simpson of the War Street Journal. Moreover, the Riggs Bank “enjoyed a ‘relationship’ with the CIA for some time.” As noted by Madsen, Riggs Bank hosted the Bosnian Defense Fund and this financial assistance was tapped by “al-Qaeda” in Bosnia. On October 3, Madsen wrote

The Muslim operation in the Balkans was largely supported by official (CIA, DIA, and Special Operations) U.S. assistance but also by unofficial help. This was mainly carried out by private military contractors like MPRI and financial support networks like the Bosnia Defense Fund, established in the mid-1990s at a Riggs Bank account in Washington, DC. The principal movers behind the Bosnian Defense Fund were Richard Perle and Douglas Feith. In fact, Feith’s law firm, Feith and Zell (FANZ) set up the Bosnia Defense Fund. According to a former Riggs legal adviser, when objections were raised about the hundreds of millions of dollars collected from such countries as Saudi Arabia, Brunei, Malaysia, the UAE, Iran, Jordan, and Egypt that were being detected by the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FINCEN) being sent from Washington to Sarajevo, Bosnia, and reports that there was “spillage” of these funds into the hands of Al Qaeda units in the country, Perle’s response at one contentious meeting was, “just make it * happen.”

Indeed, Perle and the Straussian neocons just made it f-ing happen on September 11, 2001, although the money trail is studiously avoided and swept under the rug by the corporate media. It is no secret Princess Haifa al-Faisal, wife of Bander bin Sultan, had accounts at Riggs Bank and money from these accounts allegedly found its way to two of the nine eleven hijackers. Of course, the Bush nine eleven whitewash commission denied this ever happened and thus this suspicious bit of information found its way to the memory hole (see Dr. David Ray Griffin, The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie ). It should be noted here that the Bushites redacted 28 pages from the Congressional Joint Inquiry Report on 9-11 and those pages are assumed to have contained information on the role of Saudi Arabia and another unnamed country (more than likely Pakistan) in financing Osama. Interestingly, however, a reference to a relationship between the supposed hijackers Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi and the FBI was allowed to remain in the report (the report states that the putative hijackers “had numerous contacts with a long time FBI counterterrorism informant in California and that a third future hijacker, Hani Hanjour, apparently had more limited contact with the same informant,” see Allan P. Duncan, Bush Should Cry Uncle and Release Saudi Info ).

In summary, “al-Qaeda” never existed in the form now claimed by the Bushites and the corporate media, “al-Qaeda” was in fact a database of CIA recruited and trained mujahideen and an email connected to that database, Osama bin Laden had nothing to do with that database and thus all references in the corporate media claiming he is the leader of “al-Qaeda” the fantastical terrorist organization are false (if not deliberately contrived lies), terrorists falsely attributed to “al-Qaeda” were organized by the U.S. military and NATO and financed by a CIA front bank in Washington (connected to two principal Straussian neocon criminals) and unleashed in Bosnia (assisting the drug-running KLA mafia), and the CIA front bank later shared a connection with prominent Saudi Arabians who are suspected of financing the nine eleven hijackers (since the hijackers did not actually exist, this money was probably used elsewhere in the nine eleven operation). All of this information was predictably discarded by nine eleven whitewash commission.

Of course, none of this arcane information means squat to the American people, many whom believe Osama teamed up with Saddam to pull of nine eleven and “al-Qaeda” is a real terrorist organization run by the elusive “devils” (in Bush’s Manichean parlance) Bin Laden and his murderous cohort, al-Zarqawi. In fact, the official story is so embedded in the American psyche, thanks to the relentless efforts of the corporate media, it may never be possible for the truth to emerge.

Sooner or later, the neocons and their cardboard cut-out of a half-witted president will chime their Pavlovian bells—bells associated with the explosion of a “radiological device” or a series of black op suicide bombings in the American heartland—and our Emmanuel Goldstein du jour, al-Zarqawi, will be blamed and the process will start anew, with shock and awe in Syria or Iran.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terrorism expert John Loftus recently wrote an interesting piece in Nexus magazine, detailing the origins of the group now known as al-qaeda back into the 1920's. Apparently, the group known as the muslim brotherhood (arab nazis) were funded by british intellience and later taken over by the CIA and used as a counterweight against the communists.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject: The Hidden Face ......... Reply with quote

uslesseater,

I am not aware of the history of the Muslim Botherhood (can you post a link for the Nexus article?), but I know there has been some discussion about them on the RI Board recently. I don't know how they are related with Al-Qaeda (if at all ).

A good article from Nexus that I have come accross before is 'The Hidden Face of Terrorism' which is available here: http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/hiddenterror.html . The article is an edited extract from The Hidden Face of Terrorism: The Dark Side of Social Engineering, From Antiquity to September 11, by Paul David Collins, & dates from 2002.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, Here it is http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/Fascist%20Roots%20of%20Al-Qaeda. html
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:20 am    Post subject: Al-Qaida does not exist Reply with quote

Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-05-25-assad_x.htm
5/25/2003
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Assad doubts existence of al-Qaeda
KUWAIT CITY (AP) - Syrian President Bashar Assad said in an interview published Sunday that he doubts the existence of al-Qaeda, the terror group blamed for the Sept. 11 attacks and recent strikes in Saudi Arabia and Morocco.

"Is there really an entity called al-Qaeda? Was it in Afghanistan? Does it exist now?" Assad asked, according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Anba.


Such speculation is popular among some in the Arab world who say Washington has manufactured or exaggerated the threat posed by al-Qaeda in order to paint Muslims as dangerous.







http://www.zaman.com/?bl=national&alt=&trh=20050815&hn=22982
August 14, 2005
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«Countries facing the al-Qaeda threat are awaiting the intelligence Turkish security is to provide. Amid the smoke from the fortuitous fire emerged the possibility that al-Qaeda may not be, strictly speaking, an organization but an element of an intelligence agency operation.

Turkish intelligence specialists agree that there is no such organization as al-Qaeda.

Rather, Al-Qaeda is the name of a secret service operation. The concept “fighting terror” is the background of the “low-intensity-warfare” conducted in the mono-polar world order. The subject of this strategy of tension is named as “al-Qaeda.” »


http://www.turkishweekly.net/comments.php?id=1604
2005-08-01
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There is no Terrorist Organization Called Al Qaida

…Nese Düzel from Radikal (a Turkish newspaper) asked this question and more on Al Qaida to Mahir Kaynak, a former academic and a former intelligence officer. He has suggested different and debateful views, which will be summarized in this article.


Further more he argued that there is no Al Qaida. According to Kaynak, Al Qaida is the name of the operation carried out by an intelligence service, which is CIA…With this operation an anti-Islam front among the peoples of the world is tried to be created.






http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1327904,00.html
Friday October 15, 2004
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The Power of Nightmares seeks to overturn much of what is widely believed about Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida.

The latter, it argues, is not an organised international network.

It does not have members or a leader.
It does not have "sleeper cells".
It does not have an overall strategy.
In fact, it barely exists at all, except as an idea about cleansing a corrupt world through religious violence.




Talibans

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2897137.stm
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According to Dadullah, al-Qaeda did
not exist in Afghanistan
and he said he did not know
the fate or whereabouts of Osama bin-Laden.






http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/397/13821_AlQaeda.html
08/19/2004
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«Al Qaeda does not exist and never has»

«The basic truth is that Al Qaeda does not exist and never has. Al Qaeda is a manufactured enemy who was created by the Bush Administration in order to have an excuse to wage a war for the control of the world"s oil resources.»




Norwegian professor Johan Galtung

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/article396241.ece
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- Al-Qaida er en amerikansk fiksjon

Terrororganisasjonen Al-Qaida er noe USA har
funnet på, mener den omstridte fredsforskeren
Johan Galtung.

- Etter min vurdering er al-Qaida noe Washington
har funnet på, en typisk Pentagon-projeksjon,
sier Galtung.

På spørsmål fra Spiegel Online om han virkelig mener
at al-Qaida ikke eksisterer, svarer Galtung at Vestens
forestilling om organisasjonen er gal.

- Men det finnes en stor kraft, som stort sett er
organisert i celler, som i Hamburg, og som holdes
sammen gjennom troen, sier han.



Indonesian Bashir

http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=3054299
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Bashir selv skylder på CIA og USA for å
stå bak angrepet mot Bali.
Han benekter også at gruppene Jemaah
Islamiyah og al-Qaida eksisterer.


http://www.gsmpro.com/article/articledt.asp?hArticleId=39
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Bashir on Friday accused the United States of inventing both al-Qaida and Jemaah Islamiyah to portray Muslims as terrorists.






Qazi Hussain, member of Parliament in Pakistan

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/politikk/article844875.ece
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«Qazi Hussain har kritisert den pakistanske regjerings samarbeid med USA i kampen mot Taliban-regimet i Afghanistan. Han har snakket pent om Taliban-ledelsen og Osama bin Laden og benektet eksistensen av terrornettverket Al-Qaida.»


http://www.usefulwork.com/shark/qazi021013.html
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Qazi Hussain Ahmed :
«I've never been sure whether the so-called Al-Qaeda has ever even existed. »





http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162476,00.html

Quote:

July 15, 2005

Commenting on the possible role of Al Qaeda, Blair said, " Al Qaeda is not an organization . Al Qaeda is a way of working ... but this has the hallmark of that approach."






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http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/103002...021030082.shtml
October 29, 2002
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''Al-Qaida is not an organization anymore, it is
a concept,'' said Jordanian political analyst Labib Kamhawi.
''There is a lot of appeal for the concept itself.''»

«''On balance, I would be surprised if there wasn't any
foreign participation,'' he said. ''Al-Qaida does not have
membership cards, and as such, linkages can occur
on many different levels.''


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good stuff
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Article by Michael Meacher

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1036571,00.html

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The conclusion of all this analysis must surely be that the "global war on terrorism" has the hallmarks of a political myth propagated to pave the way for a wholly different agenda - the US goal of world hegemony, built around securing by force command over the oil supplies required to drive the whole project. Is collusion in this myth and junior participation in this project really a proper aspiration for British foreign policy? If there was ever need to justify a more objective British stance, driven by our own independent goals, this whole depressing saga surely provides all the evidence needed for a radical change of course.


Also there is this one written by Robin Cook, one month before he died!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1523838,00.html

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Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of the way, Bin Laden's organisation would turn its attention to the west.


With reference to cansouth's post. Great stuff but can I correct the quote by Blair in July 15th 2005. This was made by Sir Ian Blair and not Tony Blair.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James C wrote:

With reference to cansouth's post. Great stuff but can I correct the quote by Blair in July 15th 2005. This was made by Sir Ian Blair and not Tony Blair.


Thanks a lot for the correction. I have made a big mistake there.

This is the guy who said it:
http://www.met.police.uk/about/blair.htm

Thanks again.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's also the issue of the fact that Osama Bin Laden is probably dead.

Many articles can be found on Google but this one is interesting because it came from Dale Watson who used to be the chief of counter-terrorism for the FBI. One month after his words he lost his job.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2135473.stm
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:56 pm    Post subject: Al Qaida works for US Reply with quote

Al Qaida (or most other terrrorist group) exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush needs excuse to activate Mid-east war. That was 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there was no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appear to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, worked as a whip to beat people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government. DOJ got the Patriot Act. Pentagon got fat budget and Mid-east war.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who Controls America.?

The Middle East & Henry Kissinger, an Introductory Overview.

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=299831&highlight=#29 9831
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: Al Qaida works for US Reply with quote

kathaksung wrote:
Al Qaida (or most other terrrorist group) exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush needs excuse to activate Mid-east war. That was 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there was no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appear to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, worked as a whip to beat people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government. DOJ got the Patriot Act. Pentagon got fat budget and Mid-east war.


I swear I am starting to think the whole Al Qaida thing is just a US BS lie for black flag operations to get what the gubber nuts want.
I am wondering how much Black Water has to do with a lot of this that is blamed on other countries.
I know for a fact that South Veit Nam was blamed for a couple of things I did and that was after we weren't even supposed to have troops over there according to what the world knew about.
Sheeple will believe anything they are told. The US is failing fast because of the rich. When will they have enough??

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I swear I am starting to think the whole Al Qaida thing is just a US BS lie...


Indeed - just as Sibel Edmonds says...

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7332

And check the background of KSM... he either was working for CIA or had a handler working so closely with him that he might as well as been! (This is covered in a recent thread on the KSM trial)
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As a matter of fact, Al Qaida was known only after 911 attack. Many didn't hear it before then. Even for Syria president Assadt.

Quote, "A norwegian professor believes al-Qaida is a Pentagon-fiction:

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/article.jhtml?articleID=396241

Al Qaida exists where US intelligence dominate. Al Qaida in US when Bush need excuse to activate Mid-east war. That is 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq now to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there is no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. No wonder Assad doubt it:

Syrias president questions the existence of al-Qaida:

May 26, 2003
«Syria Denies Existence of Al Qaeda»

«KUWAIT CITY (Talon News) -- Syrian President Bashar Assad revealed in a newspaper interview on Sunday that he does not believe there is a terrorist group called al Qaeda, the organization widely believed to be the perpetrators of the hijackings on September 11, 2001 as well as the recent attacks in Saudi Arabia and Morocco.»

«"Is there really an entity called al Qaeda? It was in Afghanistan, but is it there anymore?" Assad asked.»

«Assad speculated about the existence of al Qaeda and its notorious leader Usama bin Laden in a Kuwaiti newspaper called Al-Anba. »

«Nevertheless, questioning the existence of the al Qaeda terrorist network is very popular in Arab countries. Many people in these countries believe that the United States has hyperbolized the danger of al Qaeda as a means for portraying Muslims as violent and dangerous.»

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2003/may/0526_assad_denial.shtml
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Of course al ciada exists and was involved in blowing up the towers its just that the likes of Cheney Rumsfeld and others are members of it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fictional Al Qaeda
<http://www.stewebbb.com/>

Al Qaeda is nothing more than an extension of the operatus linked to US intelligence that was allowed, by script, to remove itself as a rogue break away entity of the US government, allowed to de-compartmentalise from oversight, and was run instead by Gary Best, rogue black ops specialists for scripted activity outside of the US Government, with its funding being orchestrated through the Pakistani secret police, an entity of the US Government itself.

-- Tom Heneghan, 2004 Presidential Candidate, American Patriot and Federal Whistleblower.
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Fake Al Qaeda
BBC News - 12/8/2002

Officials from the Palestinian Authority have accused the Israeli spy agency Mossad of setting up a fake al-Qaeda terrorist cell in Gaza. Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat said that Israel had set up the mock cell in order to justify attacks in Palestinian areas.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2546863.stm

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unraveling the Myth of Al Qaida

By Peter Chamberlin 13 Jan 2008

The myth of "al Qaida" is built on an expansive foundation of many half-truths and hidden facts. It is a CIA creation... In order to explain away the billions of dollars worth of weapons and training that went into the operation, they chose a rich jihadi, a Saudi millionaire named Osama bin Laden, who had been a faithful recruiter and business agent of the Mujahedeen. He was painted as the sole financier of the entire enormous operation that was centered in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Bin Laden may not even have known that he was playing a part in a deceitful CIA global drama until after the fact.
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7787
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US fight against phantom? A Bin Laden in legend but US can never touch a hair of him. A WMD in Bush's mouth but can never been found. Government always put a target there so they can squeeze money and power from people. Al Qaida becomes an universal excuse. Here is another phantom.

Quote:
Leader of Al Qaeda group in Iraq was fictional, U.S. military says

By Michael R. Gordon
Published: July 18, 2007

BAGHDAD: For more than a year, the leader of one the most notorious insurgent groups in Iraq was said to be a mysterious Iraqi named Abdullah Rashid al-Baghdadi.

As the titular head of the Islamic State in Iraq, an organization publicly backed by Al Qaeda, Baghdadi issued a steady stream of incendiary pronouncements. Despite claims by Iraqi officials that he had been killed in May, Baghdadi appeared to have persevered unscathed.

On Wednesday, a senior American military spokesman provided a new explanation for Baghdadi's ability to escape attack: He never existed.
Brigadier General Kevin Bergner, the chief American military spokesman, said the elusive Baghdadi was actually a fictional character whose audio-taped declarations were provided by an elderly actor named Abu Adullah al-Naima.

"First, they say we have killed him," Riedel said, referring to the statements by some Iraqi government officials. "Then we heard him after his death and now they are saying he never existed. That suggests that our intelligence on Al Qaeda in Iraq is not what we want it to be."

http://b.casalemedia.com/V2/67072/117577/index.html?www.rumormillnews. com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=106780
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Qaida is created by Pentagon and US Intelligence as a false flag target with which they squeeze money and power from people.

04.08.19. "Al Qaeda does not exist and never has
8/19/2004

The basic truth is that Al Qaeda does not exist and never has. Al Qaeda is a manufactured enemy who was created by the Bush Administration in order to have an excuse to wage a war for the control of the world's oil resources.

Did an American even hear the words "Al Qaeda" before 9-11? Or were we told that its alleged leader Osama Bin Laden has family who themselves have personal business relationships with George W. Bush's family and that both families had financially profited conside

http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/397/13821_AlQaeda.html
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did an American even hear the words "Al Qaeda" before 9-11?
http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/397/13821_AlQaeda.html


Not done it yet but would be interesting to find the earliest date associated with Al Ciada by doing an internet search.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kathaksung wrote:
Al

Did an American even hear the words "Al Qaeda" before 9-11?
http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/397/13821_AlQaeda.html


Not done it yet but would be interesting to find the earliest date associated with Al Ciada by doing an internet search.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_United_States_embassy_bombings

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In the 1998 U.S. Embassy bombings (August 7, 1998) hundreds of people were killed in simultaneous truck bomb explosions at the United States embassies in the major East African cities of Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya. The attacks, linked to local members of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad brought Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri to American attention for the first time, and resulted in the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation placing bin Laden on its Ten Most Wanted list.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scienceplease 2 wrote:
fish5133 wrote:
kathaksung wrote:
Al

Did an American even hear the words "Al Qaeda" before 9-11?
http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/397/13821_AlQaeda.html


Not done it yet but would be interesting to find the earliest date associated with Al Ciada by doing an internet search.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_United_States_embassy_bombings

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In the 1998 U.S. Embassy bombings (August 7, 1998) hundreds of people were killed in simultaneous truck bomb explosions at the United States embassies in the major East African cities of Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya. The attacks, linked to local members of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad brought Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri to American attention for the first time, and resulted in the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation placing bin Laden on its Ten Most Wanted list.


Dear Sir,

What you refered was Islamic Jihad not Al Qaeda.

Al Qaida is a data base - that means camp or base of Marjahideem. To avoid people to link Marjahideem to the CIA, then they gave the terrorist group a title - Al Qaeda" after 911.

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Osama bin Laden explained the origin of the term in a videotaped interview with Al Jazeera journalist Tayseer Alouni in October 2001:
“ The name 'al-Qaeda' was established a long time ago by mere chance. The late Abu Ebeida El-Banashiri established the training camps for our mujahedeen against Russia's terrorism. We used to call the training camp al-Qaeda. The name stayed.[34]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What you refered was Islamic Jihad not Al Qaeda.

Al Qaida is a data base - that means camp or base of Marjahideem. To avoid people to link Marjahideem to the CIA, then they gave the terrorist group a title - Al Qaeda" after 911.


I agree. I merely found a reference where OBL first became known to US media (accordingly to CIA-controlled wikipedia). I was not presuming I had completed a thorough investigation. It does provide a "backstop" date of August 1998...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top Ranking CIA Operatives Admit Al-qaeda Is a Complete Fabrication
3/8/2008

'In the BBC’s killer documentary called The Power of Nightmares, top CIA officials openly admit, Al-Qaeda is a total and complete fabrication, never having existed at any time. The Bush administration needed a reason that complied with the Laws so they could go after “the bad guy of their choice” namely laws that had been set in place to protect us from mobs and “criminal organizations” such as the Mafia. They paid Jamal al Fadl, hundred’s of thousands of dollars to back the U.S. Governments story of Al-qaeda a “group” or criminal organization they could “legally” go after.'

Watch video here:

http://polidics.com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a -complete-fabrication.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAUDcmaJNWQ&feature=related
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those who told truth about Al Qaida, were silenced by "natural disease". Because intelligence don't want others know Terrorist is its tool to control people.

There Is No 'Al Qaeda' - Ex UK Foreign Secretary

12-22-8

"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US . . ."


-- Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook
Robin Cook died in August 2005 of a severe heart attack while mountain climbing in Scotland.

Wikipedia wrote:Robert Finlayson Cook (28 February 1946 - 6 August 2005), better known as Robin Cook, was a politician in the British Labour Party. He was Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs of the United Kingdom from 1997 to 2001. He resigned from his post as Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council on 17 March 2003 in protest against the 2003 invasion of Iraq. At the time of his death he was president of the Foreign Policy Centre and a vice-president of the America All Party Parliamentary Group and the Global Security and Non-Proliferation All Party Parliamentary Group...

In a column for the Guardian four weeks before his death, Cook caused a stir when he described Al-Qaeda as a product of a western intelligence:

“ Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.[13] ”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11487
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PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Qaida and real Islam resistence are treated differently.

The real Islam resistence are put to Quantanamo where they are tortured. Like Zhubadah was waterboarded. But he is not Al Qaida.

The hired tool such like Moussaoui, Bin Laden, Al Zarqawi all played a strong role to show that Al Qaida is cruel, inhuman. They aimed at common people, either its Americans or Iraqis. What they have done is to justify Bush's war policy. Any benefit to Islam? None. So Bin Laden can never been eliminated. From time to time he issued a tape when Bush needs it. A false flag that helps a lot to neocon but did nothing good to Muslim. That is Al Qaida. That's why Moussaoui cried in court, "I'm Al Qaida." Because Feds need someone to prove 911 was done by Islamic extremist not government insiders.

Zubaydah, the man CIA used to justify the waterboarding that he confessed in 35 seconds after waterboarding, has a story here.

Zubaydah Denies al-Qaida Link

WASHINGTON (AP) - Abu Zubaydah, accused of being a senior al-Qaida operative, says he has been a U.S enemy since childhood but isn't a member of the terrorist group or an associate of Osama bin Laden.

Zubaydah also told a military hearing in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, that he had been tortured in U.S. custody and confessed to things he did not do, according to a Pentagon transcript released Monday.

Zubaydah said that from 1994 to about 2000 he was a facilitator at guest houses in Pakistan, where he helped Muslims get to Afghanistan's Khalden training camp for "defensive jihad'' - that is to fight against forces that invade Muslim lands anywhere. He then helped send the trained militants on to Bosnia, Chechnya and elsewhere, he said.

"The statement that I was an associate of Osama bin Laden is false,'' Zubaydah is quoted as saying by the transcript of his March 27 hearing. "I'm not his partner and I'm not a member of al-Qaida.''

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_news&Number=2 95427552&view=collapsed&sb=6&o=21&part=1#Post295965365
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great documentary excerpt of the BBC admitting Al Q is a CIA front

Al Qaeda = the base + arabic word = the data base
Al Qaeda is nothing more than the CIA's database of jihads who fought the commies in Afghanistan in the 80s

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Qaida is a data base – that means camp or base of Marjahideem. To avoid people to link Marjahideem to the CIA, then they use Al Qaida to the terrorist group after 911

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Osama bin Laden explained the origin of the term in a videotaped interview with Al Jazeera journalist Tayseer Alouni in October 2001:

“ The name 'al-Qaeda' was established a long time ago by mere chance. The late Abu Ebeida El-Banashiri established the training camps for our mujahedeen against Russia's terrorism. We used to call the training camp al-Qaeda. The name stayed.[34]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
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