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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last few posts can be reduced to nothing more than the same old personality waffle, "I don't like FD I like AJ and steven jones or von kliest" etc.etc.

This is painful to see, cmon guys I'm not leaving until someone can bring up a single point of substance without resorting to name calling or hero worship...... just one comment on the issue at hand

Heres a clue to what this whole thing is about....

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The 9/11 perps came up with a better idea than trying to fight the 9/11
Movement. Long before they pulled off the Op they determined that they
would not fight the 9/11 Truth Movement.

They would ensure success by BEING the 9/11 Truth Movement.


Remember, no name calling, hero worship or hissy fits please. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... what do I say to that! Rolling Eyes

"Like Talking To The Proverbial Brick Wall!"

... Referene my last post!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just finished listening to that Audio Fintan. Thanks for putting the link up here. First time I've heard it. Formidable political analysis. The photo - The Dictator... and his two Pseudo-Presidents - is the perfect picture caption. What did others think of the Audio?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are Fintan Dunne, Bonko and alexsandie a team?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kbo234 asked:
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Are Fintan Dunne, Bonko and alexsandie a team?

... or one and the same person, I ponder?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kbo234 wrote:
Are Fintan Dunne, Bonko and alexsandie a team?


Is the pope a catholic?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KBO, Scar & Watcher,
I second all the obove! Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowy... I second your seconding!!! Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just about every thread on this website could be analysed in the context of this thread, and would save everyone a lot of hard work and frustration.

Fintan:
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They've been throwing sand in your eyes for five years folks!

It's how the 9/11 movement has been prevented from developing
coherence and getting traction. An essential part of the cover-up.


Anyway, I thought the political time-frame of the analysis in the Audio was very useful. I hope others did.

As I've stated elsewhere on this site, my name is Sandra Uttley. I don't know if many others have stated openly who they are. Anyway, I had to laugh at the last few posts (sorry!) We've gone from "is Fintan Dunne Jewish?" to "is Sandra Uttley Fintan Dunne?"!!!!! I'd like to know who "bonko" is but I've no idea, nor whether bonko is male or female. Anyway, I'm female, or I was the last time I checked Razz so I guess I can't be Fintan Dunne!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"just about every thread can be analysed in the context of this.....blah blah blah......"

Another comprehensively useless statement, both meaningless and vague.

This is my last post on this thread as I dont want it to drag on anymore, its already so deviod of merit its virtually a perfect vacuum.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bongo... I third your seconding!!! Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Alexsandie....

Excuse my laziness......

"We've gone from "is Fintan Dunne Jewish?"

Could you tell me who said that.? From spending time on his site, obviously some of his regular posters brought this matter up. Presumably, this is due to his analysis on the "who" did 9/11.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can we please just delete this topic NOW! this fintan bloke is a nutjob, lets move it to the controversies room at least!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get an empty nauseous feeling every time I see this thread has fresh posts.

I fifth the fourthing and thirding of the seconding if it means this thread will be trashed once and for all.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all, I've been lurking for sometime around this forum and others and have been paying attention to this thread.

It strikes me, has anybody checked with this Finton fella if he's aware his name is being used on this forum?

If it is him posting then he gets what he deserves, if not surely this should be mentioned before this thread is closed.

Could be disinfo pitting one against another, and although I ssuspect the major posters are aware of this, there will be an influx of new people like myself tonight who might not get it.

As I said before, this isn't a defence of mr dunne (and definately not the other two fools), but we're supposed to be smarter AND fairer than them.

NIce to talk at last!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, here's another one....he wants this thread to be granted a last meal and cigarette before being shut down in case Fintan Dunne is being unfairly impersonated by some diabolical impersonator.

He isn't. Definitely.

Bye, Fred....sorry, Fintan.

Come on moderators...The electric chair is ready and waiting.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome Fred,

Im pretty sure it is fintan posting, its his speculation/arguments/articles being discussed. Thats the same avatar he uses on his site, although of course thats not proof.
What seals it for me is if it was an imposter he'd have written an article about it by now. Wink

"UK TRUTH MOVEMENT IMPOSTER MAKES ME LOOK A FOOL AND SMEARS ME TO AVOID FACING THE FACT THAT EVERYONE IN THE WORLD IS CIA"

or something.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair point scar, would seem to make sense.
I just wanted to make sure, his site seems like the usual mix of some truth with a load of mystical mumbojumbo.
Will not post in this thread again, but will see you all on other threads from now on. (bit of spare time at moment due to mrs taking kids and p*ssing off)

People really shouldn't assume that everyone they THINK is dissagreeing with them is a shill/fake. It's quite sad.

If that's how you welcome a genuine inquiry from a new poster god help tonights newbie's.

cya all later
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many (most?) politicians have 'The Prince' as a core reference. IMO the 'Global Socialists' (ie racist supremacist control freaks) are using the Protocols, whoever wrote them and for whom. Look at this for example

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9. In the front rank will stand organs of an official character. They will always stand guard over our interests, and therefore their influence will be comparatively insignificant.

10. In the second rank will be the semi-official organs, whose part it will be to attack the tepid and indifferent.

11. In the third rank we shall set up our own, to all appearance, opposition, which, in at least one of its organs, will present what looks like the very antipodes to us. Our real opponents at heart will accept this simulated opposition as their own and will show us their cards.


(my emphasis)

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-references-protocols-full-text-4-protocols -10-11-12.html#PROTOCOL

Of course, they reckined without the internet...

I hope! Shocked

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Come on moderators...The electric chair is ready and waiting.


What influence you have here kbo.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Some Substance Reply with quote

This was a duplicate post -now edited.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject: Some Substance Reply with quote

For those late to the topic, it has just been moved out of General Discussion.

The same tactic of moving a hot issue out of General Discussion was
adopted by Democratic Underground around the time of the Nov. 2004
Skull & Bones 'election'. In that case the hot issue was the 9/11 issue itself!

There was uproar from 9/11 Truthseekers, who quite rightly objected to
what was clearly a politicaly motivated move. Many of the best of them,
realizing that DU was in the wrong hands, left for good.

By the way, the quality of contributions may improve now that this thread
is in 'Controversies', because 'General' forums in any event tend to be
posted to by those whose emotions are much larger than their intelligence.

Anyway, back to business. Wink

For the record, yes I am Fintan Dunne (sigh) --which anyone could easily
verify by following the links to BreakForNews Forum. But here's one to confirm:

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=14961#14961

Bonko is right to call for "a single point of substance without resorting to
name calling
". I doesn't matter whether I am right or people disagree with
my analysis, but what has passed for debate here on this issue is at the
level seen behind the school toilets among a gang of pimply teenagers.

And I very much doubt it reflects the level of the forum readers.

So I would respectfully invite any members who can rise above name
calling to take any substantive issue I have raised, or indeed the good
points made by Bonko and Alexsandie, and reply with something more
than one or two lines of knee-jerk dismissal or outright abuse.

I think the credibility of the forum as a useful contribution to the global
9/11 Movement is on the line. Somebody please rise to the challenge,
I know there are intelligent members here.

Thank you.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This topic is based around impugning the character and motives of Alex Jones, a prominant 9/11 truth advocate. As such, it is a controversial topic, and belongs here in truth controversies, where Finton Dunne or anyone else can continue to discuss it. If anyone doesnt like that: take it to another forum
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject: Politically Incorrect Reply with quote

9/11 itself is a controversial issue! And almost all of the issues about the
people and the theories are controversial.

No. I think 'Controversial' on this forum means 'Politically Incorrect' as
far as the controllers are concerned. Controllers of the forum I mean,
of course.

I am not stupid. There were calls from the start for this topic to be
dumped out of the more-trafficed General Discussion Forum into some
backwater which the moderators have designed for opinions which do
not reflect their bias or agenda, or the bias/agenda of the baying crew
who safeguard the officially-sanctioned truth on the forum.

Maybe if you took your responsibilities to ensure reasoned discussion
as seriously as your desire to box off inconvenient opinions, then this
thread would have more fruitful and informative discussion.

Well run forums do not allow members to engage in personal attack or
abuse. At least forums which hope to make a useful contribution do not.
They warn against such behaviour and suspend or ban people who
engage in direct personalized attack.

Because you have failed to take that seriously, you have allowed this
forum to be a laughing stock of mob rule and juvenile behaviour.

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Snowygrouch: Alexandie get your negative, S**T stirring
worthless junk off this site. You are NOT welcome here.

Exclamation MORON ALERT Exclamation
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"The British 9/11 Truth Campaign" ?!?

Really?

You don't seriously think a reputable campaign
would let this kind of drivel go on do you?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you just don't like it that your opinion is a backwater opinion Finton: and it is an opinion, as you sure dont have much in the way of fact

You want to come back with PROOF Alex Jones is some kind of CIA agent or whatever, you can be sure of the thread being treated differently: but then, if you had such proof, you'd hardly need to come door to door shlepping your theory round other forums, would you? the entire alternative community would be coming to you!

Not born yesterday mate: Like it or lump it

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John White, Moderator:
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shlepping your theory round other forums


If you're going to level that accusation at anybody Mr White, I think it has to be me. I brought Fintan's material over here, for reasons already stated on this thread: to provide another voice for people to consider. A voice that provides political analysis, which is sadly lacking on this website. Little did I realise what lay in store when I did this though. Fintan only turned up here because you weren't fulfilling your role as moderator.

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This topic is based around impugning the character and motives of Alex Jones, a prominant 9/11 truth advocate. As such, it is a controversial topic, and belongs here in truth controversies


I started this thread on Sat 10 Feb. It took you over a week to decide this subject was controversial? Perhaps what is really controversial about this thread is the amount of abuse you have allowed to go on.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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shlepping your theory round other forums


If you're going to level that accusation at anybody Mr White, I think it has to be me. I brought Fintan's material over here, for reasons already stated on this thread: to provide another voice for people to consider. A voice that provides political analysis, which is sadly lacking on this website. Little did I realise what lay in store when I did this though. Fintan only turned up here because you weren't fulfilling your role as moderator.

John White, Moderator:
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This topic is based around impugning the character and motives of Alex Jones, a prominant 9/11 truth advocate. As such, it is a controversial topic, and belongs here in truth controversies


I started this thread on Sat 10 Feb. It took you over a week to decide this subject was controversial? Perhaps what is really controversial about this thread is the amount of abuse you have allowed to go on.


Theres no accusation about Fintan shlepping his theory: hes here, when hes got his own forum to hold court over: its clearly a statement of fact

Length of time taken before shunting this here? Give a thread time to hang itself, it appears to me

Not doing my "job" as moderator? Well no-one pays me, and even if they did, your certainly not my boss Laughing thanks for the performance feedback, I get lots: the majority positive

So back to: talk about it here, or take it elsewhere. Personally, I dont care which

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They would ensure success by BEING the 9/11 Truth Movement.
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this should read masquerading as the truth movement.

Can we please have some evidence (is there any) that Alex Jones is a controlled opposition?
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They would ensure success by BEING the 9/11 Truth Movement.
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this should read masquerading as the truth movement.

Can we please have some evidence (is there any) that Alex Jones is a controlled opposition?
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