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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 12:28 pm    Post subject: Leeds Event (Passed) Reply with quote

HAMARA CENTRE, Tempest Road, BEESTON, LEEDS, Weds 14th Dec, 6:30 - 9:30pm

David Shayler and Annie Machon exMI5 whistleblowers + movie at
the Hamara Centre,Beeston,Leeds 6.30 until 9pm on Wednesday 14th December.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CONNECTIONS BETWEEN 9/11 AND 7/7
THE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS


DID YOU KNOW THAT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE 9/11 COMMISSION DR PHILIP D ZELIKOW STATED
“THE QUESTION OF WETHER FLIGHT 77 HIT THE PENTAGON IS INDISPUTABLE”
ZELIKOW CO-AUTHORED A BOOK WITH CONDOLEEZA RICE IN THE 1990’S AND IS NOW A COUNSELLOR FOR RICE AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT. BUSH HAS STATED THAT ZELIKOW WAS INDEPENDENT WHEN WORKING FOR 9/11 COMMISSION????

DID YOU KNOW THAT THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF VISOR CONSULTANTS, RUN BY EX SCOTLAND YARD SENIOR ANTI-TERRORIST OFFICERS, ADMITTED TO BOTH THE BBC AND ITV THAT
“AT HALFPAST 9 THIS MORNING (7/7) WE WERE ACTUALLY RUNNING AN EXERCISE FOR A COMPANY OF OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE IN LONDON BASED ON SIMULTANEOUS BOMBS GOING OFF PRECISELY AT THE RAILWAY STATIONS WHERE IT HAPPENED THIS MORNING, SO I STILL HAVE THE HAIRS ON BACK OF MY NECK STANDING UP RIGHT NOW” (itv news 8.20PM, radio5live 5.O5PM 7/7/05)

COINCIDENCE! EXERCISES WERE TAKING PLACE IN THE USA ON 9/11 AND LONDON ON 7/7!!!!!

LARRY SILVERSTEIN OWNER OF THE LEASES ON THE WORLD TRADE CENTRE BUILDINGS STATED
“I REMEMBER GETTING A CALL FROM THE, ER, FIRE DEPARTMENT COMMANDER, TELLING ME THEY WERE NOT SURE THEY WERE GONNA BE ABLE TO CONTAIN THE FIRE, AND I SAID ‘WE’VE HAD SUCH TERRIBLE LOSS OF LIFE, MAYBE THE SMARTEST THING TO DO IS PULL IT’ AND THEY MADE THAT DECISION TO PULL AND WE WATCHED THE BUILDING COLLAPSE”
SILVERSTEIN RECEIVED APPROX $8 BILLION DOLLARS INSURANCE ON BUILDINGS HE HAD INSURED AGAINST TERROR ATTACKS ONLY IN JULY 2001, COINCIDENCE!!!!


FIND OUT MORE ON WEDNESDAY 14TH DECEMBER AT
THE HAMARA CENTRE, TEMPEST ROAD BEESTON
6.30PM TO 9PM
WITH DAVID SHAYLER AND ANNIE MACHON
EX MI5 AND WHISTLEBLOWERS
Dr Mohammed Naseem of Birmingham Central Mosque has
also been invited but has yet to confirm availability.
FOR MORE INFORMATION RING MICK 0784 004 2529
GO TO WWW.JULYSEVENTH.CO.UK AND WWW.REOPEN911.ORG TO SEE MORE
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an aside, I would draw attention to that side of British activist politics as represented by UK Indymedia that I obsessively hammered on the real issues from mid-2001 to 2003
Somehow a real time-waster - thank grid it doesn't represent the real heart of UK activism I hope
Just witness the witless replies here - you could get really depressed if you thought Indymedia represented some real oppositional movement
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/12/329776.html?c=on#c137758
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any feedback from Leeds event would be appreciated,cheers
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to get to the end of this - it was a local film maker showing his film related to the demonisation of Muslims - I can't remember the title, but it was along the lines of "Don't shoot me just because I'm a Muslim" - sorry if i got that hopelessly wrong.

There were about 30-40 people there and when I arrived, David was emphasising the importance of 9-11 Truth as someone from Socialist Worker was kind of questioning the evidence.

The group seemed to dissipate quickly, but I managed to hand out some copies of articles showing the evidence for bombs under the train and a few audio CDs of Peter Power's interview and Mark Honigsbaum's "Bombs under the train" report.

Embarrasignly there was a physical altercation (not bad) between 2 people - one of whom was an ex member of Socialist Worker Party and the other who was a current member. Fortunately, the large majority of people had left by the time this happened and it didn't really amount to anything - but it was pretty unneccessary nevertheless.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please note that there is no need to delete passed events - better to keep them as it shows activity.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Johnson wrote:
I managed to get to the end of this - it was a local film maker showing his film related to the demonisation of Muslims - I can't remember the title, but it was along the lines of "Don't shoot me just because I'm a Muslim" - sorry if i got that hopelessly wrong.

There were about 30-40 people there and when I arrived, David was emphasising the importance of 9-11 Truth as someone from Socialist Worker was kind of questioning the evidence.

The group seemed to dissipate quickly, but I managed to hand out some copies of articles showing the evidence for bombs under the train and a few audio CDs of Peter Power's interview and Mark Honigsbaum's "Bombs under the train" report.

Embarrasignly there was a physical altercation (not bad) between 2 people - one of whom was an ex member of Socialist Worker Party and the other who was a current member. Fortunately, the large majority of people had left by the time this happened and it didn't really amount to anything - but it was pretty unneccessary nevertheless.


The film, POW - Prisoners of the West - is a lot better than you suggest, but I thought was inappropriate for this type of meeting as you need to view the thing in its totality to get the point - it has some good clips of Jordan Maxwell, Ted Gunderson and Chomsky - and a couple of short unconnected sections only were shown

Yes, it was a contribution from an SWP/STW person from the floor that triggered the premature dissolution of the general meeting before any useful conclusions couldd be drawn, though I'm sure some useful networking continued - sorry to have missed you
Anyway, it reminded me of the reasons why I've always thought it better to keep the warder-consciousness leftist idealogues at arm's length,whilst welcoming waking converts with open arms - a conclusion I came to at my first STW public meeting in Oct 01 when the reception to my standing up and saying the towers were obviously brought down by the Feds was somewhat stoney cold. and see no reason to change now
We're better than that and need to define ourselves as the leading antiwar/peace movement, and leave the others to their illusion-spinning and PTB-collusion.
Nor have I altered my previously expressed view on the general state of consciousness in these parts. Though there are many people who know the true stories, they remain for the most part passive - part of the general atmosphere of paranoia and personal powerlessness
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:30 pm    Post subject: In Mates Reply with quote

There has been some concern with regard to the level of intellect on the IndyMedia forum : apparently IM is offered as some sort of anti-Establishment movement.
I have visited the forum on several occasions and I think that a Care-in-the-Community soapbox is basically a good idea ; to give the, presumably-housebound, contributors means to try to express themselves. If non-CIC visitors must visit the forum they should try to be tolerant.
However, I do think that the moderator, if there is one, should be fully rational and recognise that foaming at the mouth, ranting and raving should not completely replace evidence-based argument.
These type of people have a genuine fear of all opinions which contradict the official version : the condition is known as "cognitive dissonance". As children, and quite likely now, they had the habit of covering their ears and shouting "I'm not listening."
As long as the foamers keep taking their "medication" the situation should stay reasonably within control.
Some trouble-maker is bound to copy this to the In Mates.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:09 pm    Post subject: Re: In Mates Reply with quote

Crookwatch wrote:

Some trouble-maker is bound to copy this to the In Mates.


Dont tempt me
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The event was covered on BBC Radio Leeds the day after. The journalist only mentioned that Shayler was challenging the official account of 9/11 but didn't mention 7/7 conspiracy. Will get a transcript.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The journalist was quite right I believe, because I don't think David ever really got that far
It took a number of obfuscating hits and dissolved
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