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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's complete bollox ,isnt it?
The tortured Rauf gave away a completely false plot, another nonsensical construct which still reverberates at the airports
They need to show him dead, as another false adversary
It won't alter the airport scam, though, will it?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig Murray wrote:
......Let us add to this the further strangenesss that Rauf had originally left the UK after a warrant was issued for his arrest as a suspect in the murder of his uncle, a death with no apparent political or terrorist motive. Yet the UK authorities failed to request his extradition from Pakistan when he was in custody there, even though they were involved in his interrogation, and he was still wanted for murder in the UK.

So if Rauf was murdered (and his family are denying his death) was it because he was a terror suspect, or because the intelligence agencies were covering their tracks? Was the reason that the UK government did not want to extradite him to testify in the UK, the same reason he had to be silenced by his murder?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:11 pm    Post subject: Is this a retrial? (Liquid Bombs Plot) Reply with quote

Are these the same people who were tried and aquitted in Kingston last year?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7894755.stm


Eight men plotted to use "home-made bombs" disguised as soft drinks to blow up transatlantic planes mid-flight, Woolwich Crown Court has heard.

The jury was told that had the alleged plot come off, there would have been deaths on an "unprecedented scale".

The bombs would be made of household items smuggled on board and detonated in mid-flight.

All eight men deny the alleged plot, which counter-terrorist police claim to have foiled in August 2006.

Prosecutor Peter Wright said the ringleaders of the alleged conspiracy were two men, Abdulla Ahmed Ali and Assad Sarwar, from Walthamstow, east London, and High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire.

'Indifferent to carnage'

Mr Wright told the jury: "The means by which they intended to inflict heavy casualties on ordinary civilians was by the carrying out of a series of co-ordinated and deadly explosions.


What these men intended to bring about together and with others was a violent and deadly statement of intent that would have a truly global impact
Prosecutor Peter Wright

"These men were indifferent to the carnage that was likely to ensue if their plans were successful... They intended, with others, to cause a series of co-ordinated explosions aboard a number of transatlantic passenger aircraft."

The explosions were to be caused by the detonation in-flight of home-made bombs made from everyday household items such as drinks bottles and batteries which could be smuggled on board, Mr Wright said.

"Inevitably such an event would have fatal consequences for the various passengers and crew who happened, quite by chance, to be flying to North America on the day selected by them to commit this atrocity.

'Foot soldiers'

"Consequently, it is the Crown's case that these men and others were actively engaged in a most deadly plot designed to bring about what would have been, had they been successful, a civilian death toll from an act of terrorism on an almost unprecedented scale."

Ali and Sarwar were arrested by counter-terrorism police on 9 August, 2006, when it was believed they were "almost ready" to launch the terror strike, Mr Wright said.

The pair were the plot's ringleaders, while the others were the "foot-soldiers" prepared to carry out the bombings, he added.

The prosecution alleges the plot was being directed from Pakistan.

"This was not something that had been devised merely by Ali and Sarwar once they had realised they shared a common interest, this was part of a much wider scheme of things," Mr Wright said.

"Acts of terrorism on an international scale, directed from abroad using home-grown terrorists, young, radicalised Muslims prepared to lose their lives in a global act of jihad."

Flight research

A computer memory stick containing details of flights from Heathrow Airport to North American destinations was found in Ali's pocket when he was arrested, the court heard.

It held details of flights operated by three carriers, American Airlines, United Airlines and Air Canada, from August to October 2006.

Seven services, all leaving from Terminal 3 of the London airport and all due to be mid-flight at the same time, were highlighted.

Those in the dock are: Abdulla Ahmed Ali, also known as Ahmed Ali Khan, 28, of Prospect Hill, Walthamstow; Assad Sarwar, 28, of Walton Drive, High Wycombe;

Tanvir Hussain, 27, of Nottingham Road, Leyton, east London; Ibrahim Savant, 28, of Denver Road, Stoke Newington, north London;

Arafat Waheed Khan, 27, of Farnan Avenue, Walthamstow; Waheed Zaman, 24, of Queen's Road, Walthamstow;

Umar Islam, also known as Brian Young, 30, of Bushey Road, Plaistow, east London; and Donald Stewart-Whyte, 22, of Hepplewhite Close, High Wycombe.

Mr Savant, Mr Khan, Mr Zaman, Mr Islam and Mr Stewart-Whyte face one additional charge of conspiracy to murder, which again they deny.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this the case they're all claiming on the BBC today was foiled due to information gleened from torture?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is a retrial.

Although you wouldn't know that from the BiBiC "article" would you?

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The prohibition of a second trial after an acquittal was clarified by the Criminal Justice Act 2003. Following the murder of Stephen Lawrence, the MacPherson Report suggested that double jeopardy should be abrogated where "fresh and viable" new evidence came to light, and the Law Commission recommended in 2001 that it should be possible to subject an acquitted murder suspect to a second trial. The Parliament of the United Kingdom implemented these recommendations by passing the Criminal Justice Act 2003[9], introduced by then Home Secretary David Blunkett. Under the 2003 Act, retrials are now allowed if there is "new" and "compelling" evidence for crimes, including murder, but also manslaughter, kidnapping, rape, armed robbery, and serious drug crimes. All cases must be approved by the Director of Public Prosecutions, and the Court Of Appeal must agree to quash the original acquittal.[10]


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Which is why we must expect some new and compelling evidence that is "fresh and viable", just like the alleged 7.7 helpers retrial . . .

Bombs on UK-US planes...More convenient "terrorism"

The Heathrow Liquid Bomb Hoax

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Of the approximately 24 suspects who were arrested in and around London on the night of 9 August 2006 . . . .

. . . .On 8 September 2008 after more than 50 hours of deliberations, the jury did not find any of the defendants guilty of conspiring to target aircraft. The jury found Ali, Sarwar and Hussein guilty of conspiracy to murder charges but was unable to reach verdicts on charges relating to the alleged plot to blow up aircraft in respect of them.

The jurors were unable to reach verdicts on those charges or conspiracy to murder charges as well on conspiracy to detonate explosives on aircraft against Ibrahim Savant, 27, of Stoke Newington, Umar Islam, 30, of Plaistow, and Waheed Zaman, 24, and Arafat Waheed Khan, 27, both of Walthamstow, all London. Mohammad Gulzar, 27, of Barking, east London, was found not guilty on all counts.


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This is the retrial of the liquid bomb boIIocks, which everyone who has followed it, knows it to be, erm, boIIocks, apart from the CPS . . .

Zanu Lab PF was crumbling with various resignations and then bang !

Zio boy Chertoff began salivating while mothers at airports had their babies milk confiscated, the recent "escapee", Rashid Rauf, to whom the entire plot has been attributed, yeah right, was hanging upside down in a dungeon in Pak, without Whitehall collusion of course, Bliar was on holiday while Lebanon got hammered again by the Zionist Fascist Israel, so the adulterous cheat, Right Hook Two Jags Prescott was at the helm or more probably, at some poor girl's hem, the be very scared index went from severe, you could all die pretty soon, to, critical, we know you are going to die even sooner . . .

The ubiquitous Peter "New Normal" Power had this to say on the summer morning of 10.8.6

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"We are very close to the stage now when anyone flying to America will have to submit to a search of their body cavities.

Two part liquid bombs where they can be mixed, just like the Nazi's did years ago.

More Forest Gate type activities.

We are now in a "new normal".

Unless businesses have their business continuity plans in place they could be in trouble.


(Hint: Visor Consultants can help you with this)

Hilarious, and, erm radicalisingly funny too . . .

But as we all quickly learned . .

Nobody can make TATP inside the toilet of a jet.

No matter how many Zanu Lab PF Parliamentary Private Secretaries resign, how many folk you arrest, or, how many times you take them to court.

Even the jury knew that.

Nuff said.

The relevant J7 threads are here

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I happened to be at home on that summer morning of 10.8.6 when the Binary Liquid Bomb BoIIocks was born . . .

Fascinating, for me at least, to read back over this thread, as the noos happened . . .

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"All baby foods must be tasted by mothers."

"The key seems to be liquids"


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Leaflets handed out at airports listing restrictions about what they can and cannot take on aircraft.


Liquids ?

Pre printed leaflets then.

Liquids were expected.

Spur of the moment thing was it ?

With all that print buying and leaflet distribution in place ?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uma wrote:
You're a terrorist.

You have a bomb.

You want to cause maximum casualty on the infidels.


Do you

A) Take your device to a gathering where there are hundreds and hundreds.....thousands of them; a football match, a rock concert perhaps, a bustling London market, where security is light to non existent; then let 'em have it?

Orrrrrrr.......

B) Take it to a major airport, in a very small bag, which you KNOW will be searched and or x-rayed, where explosive sniffing dogs can run their clever little noses all over your sweating body and your naughty parcel, where security and customs officials are trained to spot signs of nervousness and anxiety, and CCTVs are able to track your every move... in an attempt to board a plane which can hold a comparitively much smaller target group than option A?


If your answer is B, might I kindly suggest that perhaps you left terrorism college far too early and should return forthwith.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Gobell wrote:


No matter how many Zanu Lab PF Parliamentary Private Secretaries resign, how many folk you arrest, or, how many times you take them to court.

Even the jury knew that.



Thanks Mark.

A hand-picked jury might see these issues the way the CPS want them too. It is hard to believe that these guys would be put on trial again and leave their fate in the hands of a randomly selected jury......who surely would realise (again) how ridiculous the 'liquid bomb plot' narrative is.
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Page last updated at 11:59 GMT, Wednesday, 18 February 2009

Nuclear claim in 'bomb plot' case

An alleged terrorist accused of a plot to blow up airliners researched other targets including nuclear power stations, a jury has heard.

Woolwich Crown Court heard that Assad Sarwar had a memory stick with details of nuclear power stations as potential terror targets.

Mr Sarwar and seven other men are accused of conspiracy to murder by blowing up planes with home-made bombs.

All deny the alleged plot, which police say they foiled in August 2006.

Prosecutor Peter Wright said Mr Sarwar had "limitless ambitions" and that the memory sticks found at his home contained details of the UK's "infrastructure".


You have nothing to expect but fires of martyrdom operations, volcanoes of anger and rage upon your country

Extract from Abdulla Ahmed Ali's alleged suicide video

These included a major gas pipe between Belgium and the UK which links to the largest gas terminal in Britain at Bacton in Norfolk.

As well as nuclear power stations, details of Canary Wharf and some UK airports were on the memory sticks.

The prosecution alleges that the eight men plotted to blow up at least seven transatlantic flights from Heathrow to cities in the US and Canada, using bombs disguised as soft-drink bottles.

They say that the men made "suicide videos" beforehand in which they justified their actions.

On Wednesday the court heard more from videos said to be recorded by six members of the group, which were recovered when police searched Mr Sarwar's car and house in High Wycombe.

'Martyrdom tapes'

Jurors were read extracts from the recordings, including one allegedly by Abdulla Ahmed Ali who said he would carry out the deadly mission for "the big rewards that Allah has promised" and to teach non-Muslims "a lesson that they will never forget".

He went on: "Sheikh Osama Bin Laden warned you many times to leave our lands or you will be destroyed and now the time has come for you to be destroyed and you have nothing to expect but fires of martyrdom operations, volcanoes of anger and rage upon your country."

Appearing to address the British public he said: "You show more concern and care for animals than you do for the Islamic nation."


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Page last updated at 13:20 GMT, Wednesday, 18 February 2009

'Bomb plot' case jury dismissed

The jury in the trial of eight men accused of conspiring to murder by blowing up transatlantic airliners has been discharged for "legal reasons".

It is not yet known why the judge, Mr Justice Henriques, took his decision to discharge the jury.

The prosecution at Woolwich Crown Court had alleged that the men had planned to blow up at least seven aircraft.

All the men denied the alleged plot, which anti-terrorism police say they foiled in August 2006.

A new jury will be sworn in and the case re-started at a time to be fixed.

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I think its a great shame that this organisation is not capable of putting out press releases. We could do a brilliant one on this issue. There were two mega- fake-terror trials last year which ran in tandem, both for over three months, The 'July 7' trial at Kingston and the Heathrow Liquid bomb hoax trial at (I believe) Woolwich, both of which led to a hung jury. That could easily be 50 million of taxpayers money between them. Then, after neither reached a verdict of guilty, the two huge trials start up again, again in tandem this year.

Both trials are totally focussed on stories where nothing of a criminal nature actually happened. The Kingston trial has 3 friends of tbe alleged 7/7 bombers who spent a nice couple of days in London visiting the Eye and Aquarium and not going down into any tube station - for which they are being tried under the Victorian Explosive Substances Act. This one has a bunch of people who probably hardly even know each other who didn't even buy plane tickets or make any bombs. Both trials are about 'Well, M'lud, we believe they might have been intending to ...'

Both stories, if you noticed, originally focussed on the new gee-whiz explosive TATP - yes 4 molecules of gas from each TATP molecule, pure plast and no heat, no nitrate residue so its hardly detectable - just because (I reckon) an article had appeared in 2005 about how it blew up - and then at the two trials last year that had simply faded from the agenda in both trials, it was never mentioned. The Heathrow trial has a core of madly-deranged chemistry, while the 7/7 trial has 3 lads who apparently have no interest or expertise whatsoever in making bombs tried under an Act concerning '... to cause explosions.'

A lot of people are murmuring about 'double jeapordy' that is supposed to stop people from being tried twice for the same crime, I reckon journalists would really appreciate some such sceptical comments from us, in a press release.
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Yes indeed Nick
Why was that "transatlantic bomb" jury dismissed?
This is a totally ongoing nonsense of very superficial cases that they will repeat over and over to try to secure convictions
If the British public paid attention for a moment they'd know how superficial the remnants of the "war on terror" is
Get a very few of them together for a short while and they get dismissed in a trice.
Garner all the so-called evidence together in a trial and they cant agree on anything.
Farce upon farce

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Cases that they will also repeat over and over as a weasel-brained excuse to gag the press.
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Much as I'd like to join the above comments denouncing the trial as yet another sham. I feel that to argue this premiss the main planks of the prosecutions case should be addressed point by point.

In all the press coverage I have seen only half of case is reported (The prosecution alleges that...).

Where are the arguments for the defence and statements by defendants? Is there a link to the court recordings for appraisal?
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Get your blinkers off, read more than just the conspiracy sites!!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article682658 0.ece

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors  /article6826649.ece

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Two important conclusions follow. The first is that the Government has still not found a way to reconcile its fight against terrorism with its commitments under the human rights convention. The control orders came in because the earlier indefinite internment in Belmarsh prison of foreign suspects who could not be sent home to face possible torture was ruled inadmissible by the law lords. It is high time the Government proposed an amendment to the now dated convention to make it possible to send back terrorists intent on harming this country.

The second conclusion is that far more intelligence evidence should be admissible in court. The Government is considering the use of intercept evidence. The Chilcot commission proposed it. The security services oppose it. Their opposition has led to the flawed control order system. Both are in urgent need of reform.

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The Evening Standard wrote a leader on the 'Liquid Bomb Plot' and published a letter of reply from political scientist Dr Nafeez Ahmed. Both can be read on his blog here: http://nafeez.blogspot.com/
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US war crime suspects loading a Hellfire missile onto one of those Predator pilotless drones. Photo caption gives their names as Alexander Holcomb and Darryl France.

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deserves very wide viewing.

It puts those 'accidental' massacres of extended families and their friends at weddings and funerals in an even more hideous light.
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Didn't he do well!?
This Orwellian spook 'Parker' got away with it so he's been put in charge of the madhouse!


Friday 29 March 2013
Page 3 Profile: Andrew Parker, MI5 chief

The new "M"?

Close. Andrew Parker has been appointed director-general of MI5 as opposed to the internationally focused MI6, which is featured in the James Bond films. The 50-year-old will take over from Sir Jonathan Evans in heading the agency responsible for tracking down domestic terrorist threats next month.

"It is a great honour to be appointed director-general of MI5," he said. "I am extremely proud of the extraordinary work that the men and women of MI5 do to keep the country safe in challenging circumstances. I look forward to leading the Service through its next chapter," he said.

What's his experience?

In February 2005, he became the head of the Security Service's international terrorism division. Just a few months later, he had to deal with the London bombings. MI5 was accused by some critics of failing to keep track of Mohammad Sidique Khan, who masterminded the plot. They were aware that he had been involved in jihadist activities, but the Service was exonerated by the Commons Intelligence and Security Committee.

A year later, his teams disrupted the attempt to blow up 10 passenger jets flying from the UK to the US and Canada using liquid explosives. It was one of the most audacious conspiracies put together by Islamists, but MI5 officers installed surveillance equipment in the home of one of the suspects and arrested 24 people. In 2007, Mr Parker was promoted to deputy director. The Home Secretary, Theresa May, said he brings a "wealth of experience and knowledge" that will help the Service to "stay ahead of global and domestic threats".

What else do we know about him?

Not a lot, which is probably for the best. Parker holds a degree in natural sciences from Cambridge University, and is married with two children. He describes himself as a keen ornithologist and wildlife photographer.

http://www.independent.co.uk/i/page-3-profile-andrew-parker-mi5-chief- 8554162.html


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A former senior British Army Intelligence Officer now says the "liquid bombing plot" was part of a "pattern of lies and deceit." He also casts doubt on the London bombings.

This breakthrough article by Nafeez Ahmed, published in Raw Story, helps blow the lid off of the whole terror scare strategy used by Britian, the U.S. and other nations.

It is helpful for 9/11 truth, as it helps document government scare tactics, protecting patsies, and other techniques of fear and deceit -- of which false flag attacks such as 9/11 are a part - which governments use to control their populations and justify their imperial agendas.

"Lieutenant-Colonel (ret.) Nigel Wylde, a former senior British Army Intelligence Officer, has suggested that the police and government story about the "terror plot" revealed on 10th August was part of a "pattern of lies and deceit."

British and American government officials have described the operation which resulting in the arrest of 24 mostly British Muslim suspects, as a resounding success. Thirteen of the suspects have been charged, and two released without charges.

According to security sources, the terror suspects were planning to board up to ten civilian airliners and detonate highly volatile liquid explosives on the planes in a spectacular terrorist operation. The liquid explosives -- either TATP (Triacetone Triperoxide), DADP (diacetone diperoxide) or the less sensitive HMTD (hexamethylene triperoxide diamine) -- were reportedly to be made on board the planes by mixing sports drinks with a peroxide-based household gel and then be detonated using an MP3 player or mobile phone.

But Lt. Col. Wylde, who was awarded the Queen's Gallantry Medal for his command of the Belfast Explosive Ordnance Disposal Unit in 1974, described this scenario as a "fiction." Creating liquid explosives is a "highly dangerous and sophisticated task," he states, one that requires not only significant chemical expertise but also appropriate equipment.

Terror plot scenario "untenable"

"The idea that these people could sit in the plane toilet and simply mix together these normal household fluids to create a high explosive capable of blowing up the entire aircraft is untenable," said Lt. Col. Wylde, who was trained as an ammunition technical officer responsible for terrorist bomb disposal at the Royal Army Ordnance Corps in Sandhurst.

After working as a bomb defuser in Northern Ireland, Lt. Col. Wylde became a senior officer in British Army Intelligence in 1977. During the Cold War, he collected intelligence as part of an undercover East German "liaison unit," then went on to work in the Ministry of Defense to review its communications systems.

"So who came up with the idea that a bomb could be made on board? Not Al Qaeda for sure. It would not work. Bin Laden is interested in success not deterrence by failure," Wylde stated.

"This story has been blown out of all proportion. The liquids would need to be carefully distilled at freezing temperatures to extract the required chemicals, which are very difficult to obtain in the purities needed."

Once the fluids have been extracted, the process of mixing them produces significant amounts of heat and vile fumes. "The resulting liquid then needs some hours at room temperature for the white crystals that are the explosive to develop." The whole process, which can take between 12 and 36 hours, is "very dangerous, even in a lab, and can lead to premature detonation," said Lt. Col. Wylde.

If there was a conspiracy, he added, "it did not involve manufacturing the explosives in the loo," as this simply "could not have worked." The process would be quickly and easily detected. The fumes of the chemicals in the toilet "would be smelt by anybody in the area." They would also inevitably "cause the alarms in the toilet and in the air change system in the aircraft to be triggered. The pilot has the ability to dump all the air from an aircraft as a fire-fighting measure, leaving people to use oxygen masks. All this means the planned attack would be detected long before the queues outside the loo had grown to enormous lengths."

Government silent on detonators

Even if it was possible for the explosive to have been made on the aircraft, a detonator, probably made from TATP, would be needed to set it off. "It is very dangerous and risky to the individual," Wylde said. "As the quantity involved would be small this would injure the would-be suicide bomber but not endanger the aircraft, thus defeating the object of bringing down an aircraft."

Despite the implausibility of this scenario, it has been used to justify wide-ranging new security measures that threaten to permanently curtail civil liberties and to suspend sections of the United Kingdom's Human Rights Act of 1998. "Why were the public delicately informed of an alleged conspiracy which the authorities knew, or should have known, could not have worked?" asked Lt. Col. Wylde.

"This is not a new problem," he added, noting that 'shoe-bomber' Richard Reid had attempted to use this type of explosive on a plane in December 2001. "If this threat is real, what has been done to develop explosive test kits capable of detecting peroxide based explosives?" asked Wylde. "These are the real issues about protecting the public that have not been publicised. Instead we are going to get demands for more internment without trial."

Lt. Col. Wylde also raised questions about the criminal investigation into the 7th July terrorist attacks in London last year. He noted that police and government sources have maintained "total silence" about the detonation devices used in the bombs on the London Underground and the bus at Tavistock Square. "Whatever the nature of the primary explosive materials, even if it was home-made TATP, the detonator that must be used to trigger an explosion is an extremely dangerous device to make, requiring a high level of expertise that cannot be simply self-taught or picked-up over the internet," Wylde stated.

The government's silence on the detonation device used in the attacks is "disturbing," he said, as the creation of the devices requires the involvement of trained explosives experts. Wylde speculated that such individuals would have to be present either inside the country or outside, perhaps in Eastern Europe, where they would be active participants in an international supply-chain to UK operatives. "In either case, we are talking about something far more dangerous than home-grown radicals here."

Spy slams police inaction against terrorists

Wylde's concerns are echoed by others familiar with British terrorism-related intelligence operations, such as Glen Jenvey, who is profiled in the bestselling book, The Terror Tracker, by terrorism investigator Neil Doyle. Jenvey worked for several military attaches monitoring terrorist groups in London and obtained crucial video and surveillance evidence used by British police to arrest radical cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri, who was convicted last February.

"I've been closely monitoring the internet communications of extremist Muslim groups inside the UK both before and after 7/7, and they are intimately interconnected," said Jenvey, who is affiliated with the London-based terror watch group VIGIL. "We've identified a coordinated leadership of at least 20 and up to 60 people, extremist preachers with blatant international al-Qaeda terrorist connections."

Jenvey noted that even though they are known to the authorities and are monitored while breaking the law with impunity, particularly in their private sermons, the police have failed to take appropriate action against them. "The police don't need to round up and detain thousands of British Muslims. If they only arrested, charged and prosecuted these 20 key terrorist leaders, they will have a struck a fatal blow against the epicentres of al-Qaeda extremism in the UK. But they're sitting on this."

Jenvey points to Omar Bakri Mohammed, a colleague of convicted terrorist Abu Hamza who headed the now-banned Islamist group al-Muhajiroun in the United Kingdom. Despite being exiled to Lebanon, Omar Bakri continues to communicate with UK-based extremist groups which are believed to be successors of al-Muhajiroun operating under new names, including the Saved Sect and al-Ghurabaa. British security sources have confirmed that the 7/7 bombers were associates of Omar Bakri's network, and Bakri himself publicly boasted a year before the London bombings that an al-Qaeda cell in London was planning a terrorist strike.

An investigation by the counterterrorism unit in the New York Police Department found that Bakri's al-Muhajiroun had formed 81 front groups and support networks in six countries, most of them based in London, the home counties bordering London, the Midlands, Lancashire and West Yorkshire. By the time Home Secretary Dr. John Reid moved in July to proscribe the latest incarnation of al-Muhajiroun, al-Ghurabaa, this sprawling interconnected network was fully functioning and continues to operate namelessly, despite proscription. Bakri's network has recently adopted the name "Al Sabiqoon Al-Awwaloon".

Jenvey complains that, despite the arrest in early September of radical cleric Abu Abdullah, convicted terrorist Abu Hamza's successor at the Finsbury Park Mosque, a "hardcore group of 20 or more extremists operating around Omar Bakri" remains at large. "The police have every reason to act, and they know who these people are. Their failure to do so has only exacerbated unjustified demonization of Muslims. These extremists are not Muslims in any meaningful sense, they are simply terrorists obsessed with violence."

MI5, MI6 recruiting extremists?

Even the arrest of Abu Abdullah only occurred after his support for terrorism was widely reported in the British and American media in late August. On 23rd August, he justified the killing of Westerners and told CNN correspondent Dan Rivers that Tony Blair is a "legitimate target" of jihad. The Sunday Times remarked that he "is apparently being allowed to operate unchecked by the authorities five months after a law was passed making it a criminal offence to glorify terrorism."

Torture may have been used to extract evidence for the weekend police raids which resulted in the arrest of 14 British Muslims, including Abdullah. Sources confirm that information came from detainees at Camp X-Ray in Guantanamo, where interrogation techniques classified as torture under international law are routinely used.

The reluctance to take decisive action against the leadership of the extremist network in the UK has a long history. According to John Loftus, a former Justice Department prosecutor, Omar Bakri and Abu Hamza, as well as the suspected mastermind of the London bombings Haroon Aswat, were all recruited by MI6 in the mid-1990s to draft up British Muslims to fight in Kosovo. American and French security sources corroborate the revelation. The MI6 connection raises questions about Bakri's relationship with British authorities today. Exiled to Lebanon and outside British jurisdiction, he is effectively immune to prosecution.

Other London-based radical clerics with terrorist connections also had a relationship to the security services. Abu Qatada, described as al-Qaeda's European ambassador, was, according to French sources a long-time MI5 informant. Pakistani government insiders similarly believe that Ahmed Omar Sheikh Saeed, the British al-Qaeda finance chief from Forest Gate, not only worked with the ISI, Pakistani's military intelligence service, but was also recruited by the CIA as an informant. Saeed, who reportedly wired several hundred thousand dollars to alleged chief 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta, is currently in Pakistani custody for the murder of Wall Street Journal journalist Daniel Pearl.

Omar Bakri regularly uses the internet to communicate from Lebanon with his followers in Britain. On Sunday evening, 3rd September, Omar Bakri told participants in an online chat forum that he had been pulled in by the Lebanese authorities at the request of the US and British governments and questioned in relation to the "terror plot". Although he denied involvement in the plot, he claimed that some of the 24 British Muslim suspects were known to him. When asked to confirm or deny whether Bakri had indeed been arrested at the request of the British, the Foreign Office had no comment. Bakri said that he was regularly questioned by Lebanese officials on behalf of the British government.

The official reluctance to act against Bakri and his active associates in the UK does not match the government's willingness to act pre-emptively to foil a plot of doubtful reality. Official reluctance to acknowledge the significance of the detonators used in the 7/7 terrorist operation suggests that the threat is far more sophisticated than authorities have admitted, and that emphasis on home-grown amateurs is mistaken. Lt. Col. Wylde's observations would seem to indicate that the terror-threat narrative is being manipulated for reasons of political expediency."



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