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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why aren't the MSM picking up on this.. this is so obvious. They seemed to be vaguely interested when Dr David Kelly died... now nowt... ps Norman Baker is very tenacious.. what a guy
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In 2005 Norman was described by the Daily Mail as the most hated man in Westminster due to his campaign for transparency on MP expenses. More recently Norman published The Strange Death of David Kelly and at AV3 he will discuss his remarkable investigation into the death of the Iraq weapons inspector.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject: paramedics at scene of Reply with quote

Anyone posted this here yet...?
The two paramedics who attended the scene,
said at the time on this news interview
there was hardly any blood at the scene.
I remember watching this clip as it
was broadcast,(whilst doing my armchair campaigning Tony)
and it was obvious they were inferring
that Dr David Kelly was murdered...
The police operation was apparently called 'operation mason'...



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Dr Kelly WAS murdered and there has to be a new inquest, say six top doctors

Daily Mail By Tim Shipman, Deputy Political Editor - 05th December 2009

Six doctors who believe government scientist David Kelly was murdered have launched a ground-breaking legal action to demand the inquest into his death is reopened.

They are to publish a hard-hitting report which they claim proves the weapons expert did not commit suicide as the Hutton Report decided.

They have also engaged lawyers to write to Attorney General Baroness Scotland and the coroner Nicholas Gardiner calling for a full re-examination of the circumstances of his death.

The doctors are asking for permission to go to the High Court to reopen the inquest on the grounds that it was improperly suspended. If Baroness Scotland rejects that demand, or the court turns them down, their lawyers say they will have grounds to seek judicial review of the decision.

Dr Kelly was found dead at a beauty spot near his Oxfordshire home in 2003, days after he was exposed as the source of a story that Tony Blair's government 'sexed-up' its dossier on Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction to justify invading Iraq.

In one final phone conversation, he told a caller he wouldn't be surprised 'if my body was found in the woods'.

The inquest into Dr Kelly's death was suspended before it could begin by order of the then Lord Chancellor Lord Falconer. He used the Coroners Act to designate the Hutton Inquiry as 'fulfilling the function of an inquest'.

Lord Falconer, a former flatmate of Tony Blair, was also responsible for picking Lord Hutton to run the inquiry.
Suicide?: A police officer stands next to a cordon near Harrowdown Hill in Oxfordshire where Dr David Kelly's body was found in July, 2003

Suicide?: A police officer stands next to a cordon near Harrowdown Hill in Oxfordshire where Dr David Kelly's body was found in July, 2003

But the doctors claim that the original inquest was never formally closed and should now be allowed to hold a proper inquiry.

The six are Michael Powers, a QC and former coroner; trauma surgeon David Halpin; Andrew Rouse, an epidemiologist who established that deaths from cutting the ulnar artery – as claimed in Dr Kelly's case – are extremely rare; Martin Birnstingl, another surgeon; plus Stephen Frost and Chris Burns-Cox.

Lord Hutton concluded that Dr Kelly killed himself by severing an ulnar artery in his left wrist after taking an overdose of prescription painkillers but he skated over the controversies about the causes of death.
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Lord Hutton concluded Dr David Kelly killed himself

The bulk of his report was dedicated to the political row between Downing Street and the BBC, which revealed the sexing-up of the dossier.

Dr Kelly's death certificate states that he died of a haemorrhage, but the results of a post mortem examination have never been made public.

Crucially, the doctors say that Lord Hutton had no witnesses on oath and did not have to make a finding, as the coroner does, beyond a reasonable doubt.

The doctors tried to persuade the coroner to reopen his inquest in 2004 but were rejected because they were not judged to be 'properly interested persons' with the authority to demand an inquiry.

Now they have hired human rights lawyers Leigh Day & Co to challenge the use of the Coroners Act to close the inquest.

A source close to the doctors said: 'Lord Falconer is on record saying this is a "useful little law" but it was set up to avoid multiple inquests in cases where there were multiple deaths.

It has been used for victims of train crashes and the Harold Shipman case but Dr Kelly's was not a multiple death.

'We argue that that's an abuse of due process. The lawyers have sent the letters this week.

We have concentrated on the finding on the death certificate that the primary cause of death was a haemorrage. We are spelling out why he could not have died from a cut to the small ulnar artery.'

One of the doctors, who preferred not to be named, added: 'When the Romans committed suicide they would slit all four arteries in a warm bath, which keeps the blood flowing. The arteries would close up in the open air and you would not lose that much blood.'

A book on the unanswered questions surrounding the case by Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker concluded that Dr Kelly may have been murdered by Iraqi exiles – but the finger has also been pointed at MI5 and the CIA.

Dr Kelly's family have never commented publicly on his death.



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done, those six doctors!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One hour lecture by Norman Baker on this very subject
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new video - sabotage going on... or is there?
Premise:- Britain's Iraqi Weapons Inspector Dr David Kelly was murdered, after careful consideration of the evidence. According to published data in Norman Baker MP's book The Strange Death Of David Kelly. The Hutton inquiry was a joke a farce and travesty. Now we have the Chilcot Enquiry into the Iraq war, will it be any different?

Secondly as we had some very nasty active interference on this interview, we feature 2 further examples in the second section, illustrating that non visible "items" accompany us as we discuss sensitive matters.
The discussion is accessed, or zapped, at specific points of MEANING,causing the camera to mess up tghe imag. As in Baker's example the mention the BBC Director General, Greg Dyke, a highly controversial example on how a so called independent broadcaster is completely nobbled by 'sources unknown'..
Just as we were in this interview.
The digital data was completely broken up destroying the interview, BUT we recovered it, and present the whole interview here.

For those who dismiss this, a video tape of the Greg Dyke and the BBC issue, has just truned up in my edit suite, out of thin air.
So Yes there is a serious issue here. The interview was accessed. We have a vital part of this jigsaw to confront, and not dismiss.
Dyke was shafted by the BBC board and forced to resign, all over the faked or "Sexed Up" documents and travesty of failure by the intelligence services,(or was there?) leading Britain to War in Iraq.
This is a highly controversial, and VERY dark CONTINUING chapter in Britain's history.

The Murder of Dr David Kelly by Norman Baker MP Part 1&2of3

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norman Baker's book is starting to sell out
Second hand copies starting to go for silly money
Get it while you can

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Strange-Death-David-Kelly/dp/1842752170/

rather like Annie's book
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spies-Lies-Whistleblowers-Shayler-Affair/dp/18 5776952X/

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245599/David-Kelly-post-morte m-kept-secret-70-years-doctors-accuse-Lord-Hutton-concealing-vital-inf ormation.html

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David Kelly post mortem to be kept secret for 70 years as doctors accuse Lord Hutton of concealing vital information

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Vital evidence which could solve the mystery of the death of Government weapons inspector Dr David Kelly will be kept under wraps for up to 70 years.

In a draconian – and highly unusual – order, Lord Hutton, the peer who chaired the controversial inquiry into the Dr Kelly scandal, has secretly barred the release of all medical records, including the results of the post mortem, and unpublished evidence.

The move, which will stoke fresh speculation about the true circumstances of Dr Kelly’s death, comes just days before Tony Blair appears before the Chilcot Inquiry into the Iraq War.

It is also bound to revive claims of an establishment cover-up and fresh questions about the verdict that Dr Kelly killed himself.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats what you call keeping a state secret.
What do they think we are all fools?
I am still waiting to find one person I know who doesn't believe he wasn't bumped off...
I am being convinced that this is what the Yanks held on our politicians as the sword of damocles to keep them online throughout the Iraq war.

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Evidence about the death of Iraq weapons row scientist David Kelly will be kept secret for 70 years.

Medical records including a postmortem will remain classified until after all those connected with the case are dead.

Lord Hutton, who chaired the inquiry into Dr Kelly's death, imposed the unusually long time limit.
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Lord Hutton the diabolist - Posting the entire article here

David Kelly post mortem to be kept secret for 70 years as doctors accuse Lord Hutton of concealing vital information
By Miles Goslett - Daly Mail - 25th January 2010

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Vital evidence which could solve the mystery of the death of Government weapons inspector Dr David Kelly will be kept under wraps for up to 70 years. In a draconian – and highly unusual – order, Lord Hutton, the peer who chaired the controversial inquiry into the Dr Kelly scandal, has secretly barred the release of all medical records, including the results of the post mortem, and unpublished evidence. The move, which will stoke fresh speculation about the true circumstances of Dr Kelly’s death, comes just days before Tony Blair appears before the Chilcot Inquiry into the Iraq War.
It is also bound to revive claims of an establishment cover-up and fresh questions about the verdict that Dr Kelly killed himself.


Dr David Kelly, Whistle-blower: Dr Kelly died after casting doubt on Government claims about Saddam's weapons

Tonight, Dr Michael Powers QC, a doctor campaigning to overturn the Hutton findings, said: ‘What is it about David Kelly’s death which is so secret as to justify these reports being kept out of the public domain for 70 years?’
Campaigning Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker, who has also questioned the verdict that Dr Kelly committed suicide, said: ‘It is astonishing this is the first we’ve known about this decision by Lord Hutton and even more astonishing he should have seen fit to hide this material away.’
The body of former United Nations weapons inspector Dr Kelly was found in July 2003 in woods close to his Oxfordshire home, shortly after he was exposed as the source of a BBC news report questioning the Government’s claims that
Saddam Hussein had an arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, which could be deployed within 45 minutes.
Lord Hutton’s 2004 report, commissioned by Mr Blair, concluded that Dr Kelly killed himself by cutting his wrist with a blunt gardening knife.
It was dismissed by many experts as a whitewash for clearing the Government of any culpability, despite evidence that it had leaked Dr Kelly’s name in an attempt to smear him.
Only now has it emerged that a year after his inquiry was completed, Lord Hutton took unprecedented action to ensure that the vital evidence remains a state secret for so long.
A letter, leaked to The Mail on Sunday, revealed that a 30-year ban was placed on ‘records provided [which were] not produced in evidence’. This is thought to refer to witness statements given to the inquiry which were not disclosed at the time.
In addition, it has now been established that Lord Hutton ordered all medical reports – including the post-mortem findings by pathologist Dr Nicholas Hunt and photographs of Dr Kelly’s body – to remain classified information for 70 years.
The normal rules on post-mortems allow close relatives and ‘properly interested persons’ to apply to see a copy of the report and to ‘inspect’ other documents.
Lord Hutton’s measure has overridden these rules, so the files will not be opened until all such people are likely to be dead.
Last night, the Ministry of Justice was unable to explain the legal basis for Lord Hutton’s order.
The restrictions came to light in a letter from the legal team of Oxfordshire County Council to a group of doctors who are challenging the Hutton verdict.
Last year, a group of doctors, including Dr Powers, compiled a medical dossier as part of their legal challenge to the Hutton verdict.
They argue that Hutton’s conclusion that Dr Kelly killed himself by severing the ulnar artery in his left wrist after taking an overdose of prescription painkillers is untenable because the artery is small and difficult to access, and severing it could not have caused death.
In their 12-page opinion, they concluded: ‘The bleeding from Dr Kelly’s ulnar artery is highly unlikely to have been so voluminous and rapid that it was the cause of death. We advise the instructing solicitors to obtain the autopsy reports so that the concerns of a group of properly interested medical specialists can be answered.’
Tonight, Dr Powers, a former assistant coroner, added: ‘Supposedly all evidence relevant to the cause of death has been heard in public at the time of Lord Hutton’s inquiry. If these secret reports support the suicide finding, what could they contain that could be so sensitive?’
The letter disclosing the 70-year restriction was written by Nick Graham, assistant head of legal and democratic services at Oxfordshire Council.
It states: ‘Lord Hutton made a request for the records provided to the inquiry, not produced in evidence, to be closed for 30 years, and that medical (including post-mortem) reports and photographs be closed for 70 years.’
Nicholas Gardiner, the Chief Coroner for Oxfordshire, confirmed that he had seen the letter.
Speaking to The Mail on Sunday today, he said: ‘I know that Lord Hutton made that recommendation. Someone told me at the time. Anybody concerned will be dead by then, and that is quite clearly Lord Hutton’s intention.’
Asked what was in the records that made it necessary for them to be embargoed, Mr Gardiner said: ‘They’re Lord Hutton’s records not mine. You’d have to ask him.’
He added that in his opinion Lord Hutton had embargoed the records to protect Dr Kelly’s children.
The inquest into Dr Kelly’s death was suspended before it could begin by the then Lord Chancellor Lord Falconer. He used the Coroners Act to designate the Hutton Inquiry as ‘fulfilling the function of an inquest’.
News that the records will be kept secret comes just days before Mr Blair gives evidence to the Chilcot Inquiry on Friday.
To date, Dr Kelly’s name has scarcely been mentioned at the inquiry. One source who held a private meeting with Sir John Chilcot before the proceedings began said that Sir John had admitted he ‘did not want to touch the Kelly issue’ .
A spokesman for the Ministry of Justice said: ‘Any decision made by Lord Hutton at the time of his inquiry was entirely a matter for him.’
A spokesman for Thames Valley Police said yesterday that it would not be possible to search their records during the weekend.
The Mail on Sunday was unable to contact Lord Hutton.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a tricky one.

The September Dossier affair focussed our attention on Dr Kelly's contact with Gilligan and his dialogue with him about the 45 minute WMD nonsense.

The fact that we were all focussed on that issue might be something that folk could also focus on.

Poppy's revenge was already done and dusted by May 29, so Gilligan's broadcast about Kelly's claim vis the ridiculous fantasy they dared call a dossier, whilst an embarrassment to snake-oil salesman Campbell and MI6 whose hands it also passed through, was hardly a threat to the war enterprise.

Besides, Kelly had already been ordered to keep his mouth shut. That's on the record.

Dr Kelly also severely embarrassed the lamentable Colin Powell by utterly disproving his mobile bio lab claim that he presented to the UN. Powell's subsequent, apparent contrition is just sickening.

Kelly was also active in weapons inspections in Russia.

He could be another in the long list of dead microbiologists.

The September Dossier affair could all just be a smokescreen.

The point man Hutton is a disgrace that's for sure.

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So Kelly's children are expected to go through their whole lives not knowing how their father died? Hutton is obviously all heart! Rolling Eyes

So what about protecting his grandchildren?!

Whatever it is, Hutton can only be preventing the truth from coming out!
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@ Mark Gobell: '....Dr Kelly also severely embarrassed the lamentable Colin Powell by utterly disproving his mobile bio lab claim that he presented to the UN. Powell's subsequent, apparent contrition is just sickening...'

Colin Powell was also the officer who tried to cover up the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, and who lied about Iraqi tanks massed on the border with Saudi Arabia, later shown to be false by (I think Russian) satelite photos of the area (see Jimmy Walter's video 'Confronting the Evidence').

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This regimen is beginning to come apart at the seams.
Even the unthinking are beginning to see through it.
The whole edifice is unravelling.
Give it a few more years, and the slimebucket defenders of the Hutton ilk will go down in infamy
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paul wright wrote:
This regimen is beginning to come apart at the seams.
Even the unthinking are beginning to see through it.
The whole edifice is unravelling.
Give it a few more years, and the slimebucket defenders of the Hutton ilk will go down in infamy


So you are one the "It's The End of World in 2012" brigade? Very Happy
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This is most deffo 'Unfinished Business' as unstoppable megastar Norman Baker MP chillingly points out.
Biggest issue of the day but only one MP talking about it.
Tese people aren't leaders they are half sheep half zombies
Norman for PM!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:34 pm    Post subject: some good news on this Reply with quote

Lord Hutton has responded to reports that a 70-year gagging order he imposed on records and photos relating to the death of the government scientist Dr David Kelly could be challenged by stating that the documents could be revealed to doctors.
In a U-turn, Hutton said the information could be released to five doctors who are seeking to reopen the inquest into Kelly's death.
"I requested that the postmortem report should not be disclosed for 70 years as I was concerned that the publication of that report would cause [Kelly's] daughters and his wife further and unnecessary distress,"
Hutton said."I consider that the disclosure of the report to doctors and their legal advisers for the purposes of legal proceedings would not undermine the protection which I wished to give."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/27/hutton-gagging-order-da vid-kelly
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good ole Hutton, under pressure releases some files to five doctors, presumably those haematologists who've written a few times to the Guardian to say the suicide version is an impossibility

Are their findings going to be released?
Is Blair to be exposed on this level as well as his appearance at the Iraq inquiry ought to reveal him as the genocidal criminal that he is
Are him and Bush Jr yet to be exposed as when the WMD failed to be planted in Iraq as expected?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tories ready to reopen Dr David Kelly suicide inquiry

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Dr David Kelly's medical records, due to be kept secret for 70 years, may be released earlier

The investigation into the death of weapons inspector David Kelly is likely to be reopened, it has emerged.

The case has 'concerned' Attorney General Dominic Grieve and - as the highest ranking law officer in England - he is considering an inquiry to review the suicide finding, Whitehall sources say.

At the same time, Justice Secretary Ken Clarke is considering a request from campaigning doctors to release medical files relating to the death.




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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:15 am    Post subject: David Kelly Death; Now Even the Daily Mail Can't Keep Quiet Reply with quote

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By Miles Goslett and Stephen Frost
Last updated at 9:24 AM on 26th June 2010

The official story of Dr David Kelly is that he took his own life in an Oxfordshire wood by overdosing on painkillers and cutting his left wrist with a pruning knife.

He was said to be devastated after being unmasked as the source of the BBC’s claim that the Government had ‘sexed up’ the case for war in Iraq.

A subsequent official inquiry led by Lord Hutton into the circumstances leading to the death came to the unequivocal conclusion that Kelly committed suicide.

Yet suspicions of foul play still hang heavy over the death of the weapons expert whose body was found seven years ago next month in one of the most notorious episodes of Tony Blair’s premiership.
Mystery: A new investigation in the death of weapons expert Dr David Kelly has revealed shocking new claims of a government cover-up

Mystery: A new investigation into the death of weapons expert Dr David Kelly has revealed shocking new claims of a government cover-up

Many believe the truth about the manner of Dr Kelly’s death has never been established properly. Some even fear that the 59-year-old, the world’s leading expert in biological and chemical weapons, was murdered.

Of course, it would be easy to dismiss these sceptics as wild conspiracy theorists — but for the fact they include eminent doctors and MPs.

The blanket of secrecy thrown over the case by the last Labour Government has only fuelled the sense of mystery.

In January this year, it emerged that unpublished medical and scientific records relating to Dr Kelly’s death - including the post-mortem report and photographs of his body - had been secretly classified so as not to be made public for 70 years.

Lord Hutton, who had been appointed by Blair, was responsible for this extraordinary gagging order, yet its legal basis has baffled experts accustomed to such matters.

Against this shadowy background, we have conducted a rigorous and thorough investigation into the mystery that surrounds the death of David Kelly. And our investigation has turned up evidence which raises still more disturbing questions.

Our new revelations include the ambiguous nature of the wording on Dr Kelly’s death certificate; the existence of an anonymous letter which says his colleagues were warned to stay away from his funeral; and an extraordinary claim that the wallpaper at Dr Kelly’s home was stripped by police in the hours after he was reported missing - but before his body was found.
Suicide?: An aerial view of Harrowdown Hill, Oxfordshire, where Dr David Kelly's body was discovered in July 2003

Suicide? An aerial view of Harrowdown Hill, Oxfordshire, where Dr David Kelly's body was discovered in July 2003

Until now, details of Dr Kelly’s death certificate have never been made public.

But the certificate was obtained by a group of leading doctors who have spent almost seven years investigating the case; doctors who believe it is medically implausible that he died in the manner Hutton concluded and are alarmed at the unorthodox way the death certificate was completed.

Near the top of all British death certificates is a box headed ‘Date and place of death’, in which a doctor or coroner should declare the exact location of a death, if it has been established.

Dr Kelly’s certificate gives his date of death as July 18, 2003. It then states in reference to place of death: ‘Found dead at Harrowdown Hill, Longworth, Oxon’.

Why was the word ‘found’ used? Why was the crucial question of ‘place of death’ not answered? The death certificate should be precise about the time, cause and location of death.

The doctors who have investigated the case believe the failure to answer this question leaves open the possibility that Dr Kelly died somewhere other than Harrowdown Hill, the wood where his body was discovered. If this was the case, they are concerned the law may have been subverted over Dr Kelly’s death.
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Dr David Kelly leaving The House of Commons, Tuesday July 15, 2003 after giving evidence to the Commons select committee

Any such irregularity would inevitably add to the pressure to reopen the case. Indeed, earlier this month it was revealed that Justice Secretary Ken Clarke and Attorney General Dominic Grieve, who have the power to undo Hutton’s 70-year gagging order and demand a coroner’s inquest into Dr Kelly’s death, are poised to re-open the case.

To this day, the location where Dr Kelly died remains a mystery — yet it is surely the most basic requirement of an investigation into any violent or unexpected death.

Nor was the question of the location of death raised at the Hutton Inquiry.

Amazingly, Chief Inspector (now Superintendent) Alan Young of Thames Valley Police, who headed the investigation into Dr Kelly’s death, did not even give evidence to the Hutton Inquiry.

Significantly, it emerged via a Freedom of Information request in 2008 that a police helicopter with heat-seeking equipment which searched for Dr Kelly on the night he disappeared did not detect his body.
Search: It is claimed that on the night Dr David Kelly went missing, officers from Thames Valley Police removed wallpaper from his house

Search: It is claimed that on the night Dr David Kelly went missing, officers from Thames Valley Police removed wallpaper from his house

At 2.50am on July 18, 2003, the helicopter flew over the exact spot where Dr Kelly’s body was found by a search party less than six hours later, at 8.30am.

Yet the pathologist who took Dr Kelly’s body temperature at 7pm on the day his body was found determined that Dr Kelly could still have been alive at 1.15am on July 18 — just 95 minutes before the helicopter flew over the patch of woodland.

If that was the case, the body would have been warm enough to be picked up by the helicopter’s heat sensors. Why didn’t the helicopter pick it up? Was it because Dr Kelly did not die where his body was found?

A full coroner’s inquest, which, by law, must be held following any sudden, unexpected or violent death, would have addressed these discrepancies.

But no full inquest was ever held.

Oxfordshire Coroner Nicholas Gardiner opened an inquest on July 21. But on August 13 the then Lord Chancellor Lord Falconer, Tony Blair’s former flatmate, ordered it to be adjourned indefinitely.

Falconer used an obscure law to suspend proceedings, and for the first time in English legal history he replaced an inquest with a non-statutory public inquiry to examine a single death, seemingly without any public explanation.

When we tracked Mr Gardiner down, he refused to say whether he was ‘either happy or unhappy’ about this decision, but he did admit: ‘Public inquiries of this sort are very rare creatures. I think this was only about the third there had ever been.’

In fact, it was the fourth. Using a public inquiry to replace a coroner’s inquest - under Section 17a of the Coroner’s Act - in order to examine a death has only ever happened in three other cases. And in each case, it was where multiple deaths have occurred.

These were the incidents in which 31 people were killed in the Ladbroke Grove rail crash in 2000; the 311 deaths connected with Dr Harold Shipman; and the 36 deaths associated with the Hull trawler Gaul which sank in the Barents Sea in 1974 and whose case was re-opened in 2004.

The public was led to believe that the death of Dr Kelly would be investigated more rigorously by the Hutton Inquiry than by a coroner.
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Coroner Nicholas Gardiner

Conclusion: Lord Hutton's inquiry ended while the judge was still taking evidence from witnesses. Coroner Nicholas Gardiner, right, refused to say whether he was ‘either happy or unhappy’ that an inquest he opened was indefinitely adjourned

But it is now clear that the opposite was in fact true - for Hutton lacked the powers of a coroner. He could not hear evidence under oath; he could not subpoena witnesses; he could not call a jury; and he could not aggressively cross-examine witnesses.

Astonishingly, on August 18, less than three weeks into the Hutton Inquiry, which opened on August 1, Dr Kelly’s death certificate was mysteriously completed and the cause of his death officially registered as haemorrhage.

Put another way, five weeks before the Hutton Inquiry ended on September 24, 2003, and while the judge was still taking evidence about Dr Kelly’s death from witnesses, the official record of the cause of death was written and the case effectively closed.

Misleadingly, the death certificate states an inquest did take place on August 14 - even though we now know no inquest actually happened. And extraordinarily, though it bears the signature of the registrar, it is not signed by either a doctor or a coroner as every death certificate should be.
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Dr Kelly was discovered on Harrowdown Hill, next to woodland at the top centre left of the picture

Dr Michael Powers QC, a former coroner and an expert in coroner’s law who is working to secure a full and proper inquest, said: ‘This death certificate is evidence of a failure properly to examine the cause of Dr Kelly’s death. It is evidence of a pre-judgment of the issue. In a coroner’s inquest the cause of death would not be registered until the whole inquiry had been completed. As we see here, the cause of death was registered before the Hutton Inquiry had finished.

‘This is remarkable. To my mind it is evidence that the inquiry into Dr Kelly’s death was window-dressing because the conclusion had already been determined.’

Since January 2004 a group of doctors has worked unstintingly for a fresh inquest to be held into David Kelly’s death because of the blatant shortcomings of the Hutton Inquiry.

They are radiologist Stephen Frost, trauma surgeon David Halpin, vascular surgeon Martin Birnstingl, epidemiologist Andrew Rouse and internal medicine specialist
Christopher Burns-Cox. Their investigations have raised many doubts about the widespread assumption that Dr Kelly killed himself.

A letter they wrote to the Press in January 2004 marked the first time anyone had raised the possibility in the mainstream media of Dr Kelly’s death not being a suicide.

In 2009 they spent almost a year researching and writing a medical report which disputes Hutton’s assertion that Dr Kelly died from haemorrhage after severing the ulnar artery in his left wrist. The doctors argued that the wounds to Dr Kelly’s left wrist would not have caused him to bleed to death.

In January this year they discovered that Lord Hutton made the extraordinary 70-year gagging order.

Since then they have asked via their lawyers Leigh Day & Co to see the classified records, but under the last Labour Government, the Ministry of Justice - the department which holds them - repeatedly denied them access in the run-up to the last General Election. No reason was given.

Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker, who in 2007 wrote a book suggesting that Dr Kelly was murdered, used the Freedom of Information Act in January to apply to the Ministry of Justice to see the records.
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British police officers guard a road leading to Harrowdown Hill near the home of Dr Kelly in Oxfordshire

His request was also denied. Using section 41 of the Act - known as an ‘absolute exemption’ - the ministry said it was not obliged to reveal the information.

Mr Baker, now a transport minister in the coalition government, has appealed against this decision. But he and the group of doctors are not the only ones who harbour suspicions about a cover-up of Dr Kelly’s death.

Only last month one of the doctors, David Halpin, received an anonymous and carefully worded letter from someone claiming to be a relative of a former colleague of David Kelly’s at the Ministry of Defence.

The correspondent said Kelly’s colleagues were ‘warned off’ attending his funeral - presumably by MoD officials, although this is not made explicit.

Similarly, in his recently published book ‘The End Of The Party’, the political commentator Andrew Rawnsley (who has close links with the Labour high command) claims that Geoff Hoon, Defence Secretary at the time of Kelly’s death, was so furious about being removed by Tony Blair as Leader of the House of Commons in May 2006 that he wrote out a resignation statement.

According to Rawnsley, ‘he planned to make a speech about the [David] Kelly affair that he told friends could trigger the instant downfall of the Prime Minister’.

Frustratingly, there are no more details in Rawnsley’s book about what Hoon was referring to - but Hoon visited Dr Kelly’s widow shortly after his death and has never publicly denied this explosive charge.

Equally inexplicable is the attitude of Dr Nicholas Hunt, the forensic pathologist who attended the scene when Dr Kelly’s body was found on Harrowdown Hill.

Dr Hunt’s duty as forensic pathologist is to help uphold the rule of law. In March 2004, after the Hutton Report was published, Dr Hunt contacted Channel 4 News and said he thought a full coroner’s inquest should be held.

Yet mysteriously, he says now that - despite contacting the TV station - he has ‘maintained a silence on this [matter] on behalf of the [Kelly] family for a very long time’.
Tragic: Dr David Kelly's grave

Tragic: Dr David Kelly's grave at St Mary's church in Longworth, Oxfordshire. Several doctors argued that the wounds to his left wrist would not have caused him to bleed to death

Adding further to the case for a proper inquest is a new fascinating claim by a woman who has also worked closely with the doctors and helped Norman Baker with his book.

Rowena Thursby, a former publishing executive who became fascinated with the case and started looking into it, told us that Dr Kelly’s widow, Janice, admitted to her that on the night Dr Kelly was reported missing in July 2003 - but hours before his body was found -Thames Valley Police asked her and her daughters to leave their house and wait in the garden.

It later emerged that while the Kellys were outside, officers stripped wallpaper from their sitting room. Why would they have done that? Could they have been ‘sweeping’ his property for listening devices?

It is certainly a possibility. Despite the fact that the Labour government patronisingly dismissed him as a ‘Walter Mitty character’ and nothing more than a middle ranking
official in the Ministry of Defence, Dr Kelly was arguably the world’s pre-eminent expert on biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction.

We have established that he had access to the highest levels of the security services and was cleared to see the most highly classified intelligence.

The claim that police removed wallpaper from his house has never been confirmed or denied by Thames Valley Police — they refuse to make any comments about the Kelly case.

All these new revelations add weight to the list of unanswered questions surrounding Dr Kelly’s death, such as why were no fingerprints found on the knife with which he allegedly killed himself — even though he wore no gloves.

As with the extraordinary details of the helicopter search, this vital information was only obtained using the Freedom of Information Act almost five years after the Hutton
Inquiry ended. It was not heard at the inquiry.

The doctors insist that concern about Dr Kelly’s death will continue to deepen until a full coroner’s inquest is heard. If one is finally granted, many will expect Tony Blair and Lord Falconer to be called to explain under oath why they went to such lengths to avoid the normal, rigorous and respected course of this country’s law.

Until this happens their reputations will continue to suffer, as will the reputation of the British legal system. The unavoidable conclusion must be that a full coroner’s inquest is the only way the whole truth about the Kelly affair, however uncomfortable, will emerge.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289692/Dr-David-Kelly-The-dam ning-new-evidence-points-cover-Tony-Blairs-government.html#ixzz0s1zReI z0

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's hope that the bigger picture will start coming out...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our new revelations include the ambiguous nature of the wording on Dr Kelly’s death certificate; the existence of an anonymous letter which says his colleagues were warned to stay away from his funeral; and an extraordinary claim that the wallpaper at Dr Kelly’s home was stripped by police in the hours after he was reported missing - but before his body was found.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add to this thread - earlier this morning a MSM mention of this on Yahoo! News via ITN
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20100701/tuk-friend-calls-for-dr-kelly-inqu est-dba1618.html

A close friend of former weapons inspector David Kelly wrote to the Attorney General calling for an independent review into his death. Skip related content
Related photos / videos Friend calls for Dr Kelly inquest Enlarge photo US Air Force officer Mai Pedersen's intervention came after Attorney General Dominic Grieve indicated that he was "concerned"about the Kelly case and interested in exploring how to take the matter forward.

No inquest was ever completed into the death of Dr Kelly in 2003, just days after he was indentified as the source of stories questioning then prime minister Tony Blair's case for war in Iraq.

But the Hutton Inquiry into his death found that he killed himself by swallowing 29 painkillers and slitting his left wrist.

Ms Pedersen, who worked with Dr Kelly in Iraq in the 1990s and remained a close friend, challenged this finding in 2008, revealing he had an injury to his right elbow which made it difficult for him to cut with a knife.

Mr Grieve has no power to order a new public inquiry, but could make an application to a coroner for an inquest if there is evidence to support it.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:16 pm    Post subject: Norman Baker ducks Kelly radio debate? Reply with quote

Have the LIBDEMS yet again shown that principles are too expensive by leaning on Norman Baker MP and preventing him from taking part in the Dr. Kelly suicide debate last Sunday night on TalkSport? Can Clegg and the LibDems EVER buy their souls back?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't find that at all surprising. Once you join the government you are obliged to follow their policies (largely enforced by the civil service). Covering up what happened to David Kelly would be part of the official policy, probably involving the security services in some form or other.
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