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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:28 am Post subject: 16July1999 — John F. Kennedy Jr. dies Piper Saratoga crash
November 22, 1963 — U.S. President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas, Texas by Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald was shot dead by Jack Ruby two days later before he could stand trial. In 1964, the Warren Commission concluded that Oswald was the lone assassin. In 1979, the United States House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) concluded that the assassination was the result of a conspiracy and that Oswald did not act alone.
June 19, 1964 — U.S. Senator Ted Kennedy was involved in a plane crash in which one of his aides and the pilot were killed. Ted was pulled from the wreckage by fellow senator Birch Bayh and spent weeks in a hospital recovering from a broken back, a punctured lung, broken ribs, and internal bleeding.
June 5, 1968 — U.S. Senator Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan in Los Angeles immediately following his victory in the California Democratic presidential primary. Sirhan pleaded guilty to Robert's murder and is serving a life sentence at the Richard J. Donovan Correctional Facility.
April 25, 1984 — David A. Kennedy died of a cocaine and pethidine overdose in a Palm Beach, Florida hotel room.
July 16, 1999 — John F. Kennedy Jr. died when his plane he was piloting, a Piper Saratoga, crashed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Martha's Vineyard due to pilot error and spatial disorientation. His wife and sister-in-law were also on board and died.
Victor Pribanic often goes to Martha's Vineyard to fish for those big striped bass which lay in abundance off the south end of the island. The remnants of the old boardwalk is still there, along with some of the steel poles stuck where the old-timers came from one of the fishing clubs that drew crowds there in the late 1800's.
Those places are all closed now.
But those who know "the right spot" off Squidnocket Point still take the trip to fish at night in hopes they'll bag some big bass. Vic Pribanic was there fishing the night that JFK Jr.'s airplane was on its approach to the island's overlit airport when the murdered president's only son radioed the control tower at 9:39 p.m. that he was about 10 miles off the island and would drop off his sister-in-law, Lauren Bessette and then take off again between 11 p.m. and 11:30 p.m. for the Hyannis Airport. United Press International, ABC News and WCVB-TV fully confirmed this story.
All was well and the sky was moderately clear.
There was just a little haze when Kennedy got his first view of the lights beaming up from the bright street lamps that the locals there have complained so much about in both the Martha's Vineyard Gazette and Martha's Vineyard Times.
For JFK Jr., his wife and her sister, the lights were welcome sight, knowing that their flight was just about over.
The airplane, a Piper Saratoga and its world-renowned pilot and passengers, had been identified from JFK Jr.'s call, and their exact location was noted on the radar screen. THEY HAD A FIX ON HIM.
And then it all happened. BAM !!
As sudden as a lightining bolt, Pribanic turned abruptly towards the explosion: "I heard a loud impact like a bomb", said Pribanic, a skilled trial lawyer from White Oak, Pennsylvania.
At first he thought it could have been the military, exploding one of their bombs off of No-Man's Island, a small island off the shore.
But that couldn't be. It was at night. And they stopped that years ago.
Nonetheless, the explosion sounded nearly identical and came seemingly from the sky out over the ocean.
Victor Pribanic, an innocent small-town Pennsylvania lawyer, was to bag a 35-pound striper "that night" as well as a story that will change the course of the country for all time!!
What we have here is a very reputable "ear-witness" to JFK Jr.'s Piper Saratoga being blown out of the sky - at the exact time and location the plane went down.
Others that evening witnessed seeing a "bright flash" in the night sky. A finely-tuned, well-kept first-class airplane doesn't just drop out of the sky and head straight down into the ocean unless it's blown out of the sky or the pilot deliberately sends it into a dive to kill himself and his passengers.
If the latter happened, it would imply that JFK Jr. was either an idiot or insane.
Neither of which was true.
The "managed media" report that he was flying in "bad weather" is an absolute lie and we can prove it with both witnesses and photographs, so that the story will no longer fly.
What does this mean? Does it mean:
1) that JFK Jr., his wife and sister-in-law were murdered as soon as the killers ID'd his plane on its approach for a landing? Yes! It means exactly that.
2) that those who "control" the MEDIA SPIN and those who own the "managed media" who tell their editors and reporters what to write, what to print and what to show, COVERED UP THIS CRIME? Exactly! Before your very eyes!
3) that those in the executive branch of government who control the FBI, the NSA, the CIA, the ISA, the NTSB and all investigative agencies related to the crime are "involved" in this act of murder? Yes! That's this reporter's opinion!
What about Victor Pribanic?
Is he credible?
Yes! I found him to be one of the clearest and most concerned witnesses I've ever come across, as evidenced by his actions after the explosion shattered the calm of his night and changed his life forever.
The next day when Pribanic heard the news of the Kennedy crash, he called local aviation officials to tell his story and then eventually wound up talking to Hank Myer of the West Tisbury Police Dept. to tell his story. They went out to the site he fished the night before and he pointed to where the explosion had rocked the night sky.
It was in the exact direction where they discovered the plane submerged on the ocean floor many days later.
Why didn't the authorities consult with this top witness, ignoring him and spending the better part of the week spending hundreds of thousands of dollars sweeping hundreds of empty square miles for the missing plane?
Where Victor Pribanic had pointed as the location of the explosion is exactly where the Coast Guard recovered scattered items from the blown-up plane and near where other debris from the plane had washed ashore.
I asked Mr. Pribanic who returned my call if he felt that JFK Jr. and his family was murdered.
He said "it's certainly in the realm of possibility".
Mr. Pribanic said he had left his fishing spot with a bagful of stripers about 1:30 a.m. the next morning, unaware that he had heard the "IMPACT LIKE A BOMB" that had killed "the Prince of Camelot" in the night sky.
This ended the speculation that JFK Jr. might run for the U.S. Senate seat against Hillary Clinton in New York or against Al Gore, Jr. for the Presidency of the United States in the forthcoming Democratic Primary. Rumor had it that he was going to announce on August 1. Is there sufficient evidence to conclude that the Kennedy killing was murder in the first degree?
My website, http://www.freeworldalliance.com has posted over 20 stories covering all aspects of what we believe really happened to JFK Jr. and how the "Manhattan Money Mob's Manage Media" has muddied the already murky waters surrounding what PEOPLE's Magazine described as "the handsomest man in the world".
If the eyewitnesses could see the explosion of the plane from Martha's Vineyard island in the night sky, doesn't it stand to reason that Kennedy could see the bright lights of the island in the night sky?
NEW EVIDENCE IN JFK JR. CRASH EMERGES: GOVERNMENT COVER-UP?
As the 10 year anniversary of his death approaches July 16, explosive new revelations are emerging about the plane crash that killed John F. Kennedy, Jr. The report was published in last week’s National Enquirer – a source we might normally be somewhat dubious of, but considering their reporting on John Edwards and other stories has been surprisingly accurate of late, we are presenting this for your consideration.
If the secret documents the Enquirer claims to have obtained are proven genuine, it will raise many new questions about the tragic death of Kennedy and the Bessette sisters (such as: “why did the government lie?”). It will turn the official government story on it’s ear. For 10 years, we have been told that Kennedy’s fatal plane crash was the result of pilot error and spatial disorientation, sending him into a “graveyard spiral.” These new details paint an entirely different picture – that of a capable pilot desperately fighting to save his aircraft, and the lives of his passengers.
“KENNEDY FOUGHT THIS PLANE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE WATER”
Enquirer Report: Secret documentsreveal the truth behind JFK Jr.s tragic death
John F. Kennedy Jr. went bravely to his watery grave, trying valiantly to save the lives of his passengers – his wife Carolyn and her sister Lauren.
But a government cover-up has stopped the truth of what really happened inside Kennedy’s small plane before it crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on July 16, 1999, from ever being made public.
A year after the tragedy, the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) blamed the crash on a “graveyard spiral” that hurtled the plane toward the sea at nearly 5,000 feet per minute.
But The ENQUIRER has discovered a stunning report that claims the plane actually struck the water off Martha’s Vineyard in a semi-inverted dive – the result of pilot commands.
According to the obscure report in the aviation industry publication Flying, Kennedy’s plane “apparently struck the water in a semi-inverted dive, right wing first. This is an attitude that could not result from a graveyard spiral; it can only be the result of pilot commands.”
Veteran pilot Michael J. Pangia – former chief litigator for the Federal Aviation Administration – told The ENQUIRER: “Kennedy fought this airplane all the way down to the water.”
And an aviation source familiar with the crash report and the interior of John’s Piper Saratoga aircraft now tells The ENQUIRER: “The fact is that John Kennedy was bravely battling to find a sliver of visibility out of heavy fog and find his way to safety. He went to his death trying to be a hero!”
Kennedy, a novice pilot who was not instrument rated, likely relied on the plane’s autopilot to keep him on course. But investigators who probed the wreckage found the autopilot switch off.
The aviation source added: “It’s another sign that John was determined to take charge of his
situation. He was in the dark, yet heroically trying to regain control of his aircraft.”
Sadly, more evidence showing Kennedy to be a hero may never be found.
In our Feb. 20, 2001 issue, we exclusively reported that a “cover-up” of the crash was “dictated by Washington” and videotapes showing the plane at the bottom of the Atlantic, with John, Carolyn and her sister Lauren Bessette’s bodies, were destroyed.
After making a request to the NTSB under the Freedom of Information Act, The ENQUIRER received some of the first photos of the wreckage. We later learned the recovery team had also taken underwater photos and videos, images that contain crucial evidence about the crash.
But the NTSB “declined” to include additional material gathered by the Navy in their final report, leaving some elements of the tragedy forever a mystery.
Copyright 2009, National Inquirer.
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12 responses to “10 Years After JFK Jr. Crash, New Evidence of Cover-Up Emerges”
July 14, 2009 at 4:48 pm
As an airline pilot, I testified under oath before the NTSB on this tragedy and the Egypt Air 990 disaster. There were 33 high ranking Egyptian Military Officers among the 217 dead, including 100 Americans. Neither were accidents. I identified one of the perpetrators in both, a Mossad agent. It was covered up. The only question is, what politicians in the US were they working for or with?
July 22, 2009 at 9:34 am
I find it very interesting what you are saying. Tell us more about this mossad agent and your relationship with him, please.
Regarding whicht politicians were involved, a compelling case against George W. Bush is made by John Hankey. I’ve written about his argument and the subsequent wild goose chase he was send on in my article:
While very busy campaigning, George W. Bush was missing for three days during the crash and ‘search’.
August 20, 2009 at 9:47 pm
For what it’s worth, Shrub was only missing from the campaign trail that weekend in July, 1999. But his whereabouts are known.
Bush, along with his father, former President George H.W. Bush and brother Jeb, were reported to be in attendance at the annual summer encampment of the Bohemian Club at the Grove in northern California.
Make of that information what you will.
July 22, 2009 at 9:22 am
The Enquirer is finetuning the cover up. By suggesting that John had any control over his plane they covered up the M.O. which was a remotely operated vehicle.
Even more important than covering up the murder was covering up this M.O. since it was going to be used on september 11. John’s plane was a ‘flly by wire’ type of aircraft.
A computer is the heart of the plane, with stick, pedal and thrust working as input. The output is the computer’s consequent intruction to move the flight control surfaces on the wings and stabilizers and the engine.
A lot of people don’t know that the transponder signal (a signal indicating to the control tower who you are) is a two way signal and that it is also controled by this computer. The computer is programmed through software. Software can be adapted.
In the same NTSB report it says that one of the previous owners of John’s plane is RAYTHEON. This highly suspect company (one of it’s boardmembers is John Deutch ex CIA director and 9/11 foreknowledge speculator) is famous for remotely operated aircraft, for instance for target practice of missiles. It also owns Beechcraft, an aircraft manufacterer of planes like the one senator Wellstone ‘flew’ to his death.
August 9, 2009 at 2:38 pm
JFK, Jr, was not an instrument rated pilot. About 70 percent of night flying away from cities an visual reference points is conducted under IFR. (instrument flight rules.) It most certainly is over water on a moonless night. I, however, the plane had been sabotaged, well, that’s a different matter entirely. The airplane he and his Wife and sister-in-law were traveling in was a very strong, well outfitted airplane. It had a full range of instruments allowing an instrument rated pilot to fly in IMC. (inclement meteorological conditions.) that is the pilot could fly under IFR if not severe enough to warrant rethinking the flight, and see if the conditions were above minimums set by the FAA on acceptable conditions for instrument flight. Most would walk away ESPECIALLY because the aircraft was powered by only one engine. Second, cowards like me will not fly under IFR without a second instrument rated pilot with recent experience. Many young pilots think and instrument rating is their ticket to flying anytime. We older pilots know better now. Finally, I have little doubt that the US Government via the CIA would have these people killed for some insane reason. I also have no confidence in the “Inquirer.”
August 15, 2009 at 12:52 pm
COMPLETE STORY FROM: “WAYNE MADSEN REPORT”
August 12, 2009 — JFK Jr.’s plane crash was originally treated as murder investigation
WMR has learned from a source who was a close friend of the late John F. Kennedy, Jr. that the FBI originally treated the July 16, 1999, crash of his Piper Saratoga in the waters off Martha’ Vineyard as a murder investigation. Kennedy, his wife Carolyn Bessette Kennedy, and his sister-in-law Lauren Bessette were killed when their plane plummeted into the Atlantic en route from Caldwell Airport in Essex County, New Jersey to Martha’s Vineyard. Kennedy’s wife was also three month’s pregnant with a boy.
Kennedy was to drop off Lauren Bessette at Martha’s Vineyard before flying to Hyannisport to attend his cousin Rory’s wedding.
According to the Kennedy friend, the son of the late president and publisher of “George” magazine, was about ready to announce his run for the U.S. Senate from New York. Kennedy was acutely aware of his vulnerability and hired on a personal security team just prior to his announcing for the Senate. Kennedy also decided, unlike all previous flights, not to file a flight plan at Caldwell. Instead, Kennedy, instead of filing an FAA flight plan, provided his own “flight following” by having a Kennedy friend waiting at the Martha’s Vineyard airport. When the plane was overdue the friend notified Woods Hole Coast Guard Station which, in turn, notified the FAA and other agencies.
According to the source, Kennedy, contrary to press reports, decided not to fly over open ocean from Montauk at the eastern tip of Long Island to the Vineyard but instead hugged the Connecticut and Rhode Island coast lines until flying direct to the island. Kennedy did not identify his ultimate destination on the radio – he said that6 he was flying “east of Teterboro.”
Fearing for his safety, Kennedy thought it best to be within sight of the coastline. According to the Kennedy friend, Kennedy told him his plans prior to his departure. Kennedy had also arranged for all the onboard bags, including his own and that of his family, to be hand searched by security personnel at Caldwell prior to departure. Kennedy decided not to take along a co-pilot because he felt his flight was somewhat of a risk. Kennedy’s friend said Kennedy was always concerned about the “underdog” and did not want to put a co-pilot in any potential danger. In any event, Kennedy felt confident of his and his family’s security since he had retained a security firm to provide for his protection prior to his Senate run announcement.
Media reports at the time of the disappearance suggested that the weather near Martha’s Vineyard was “hazy” and Kennedy may have become disoriented, causing the crash. However, the Kennedy friend states that this was not the case and cites the fact that visibility around the Vineyard was clear at 9:41 pm when the plane disappeared from the sky. The following is from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) report on the crash and quotes the Martha’s Vineyard tower manager:
“During an interview, the tower manager stated that no actions were taken to augment or edit the ASOS during his shift. He also stated the following:
‘The visibility, present weather, and sky condition at the approximate time of the accident was probably a little better than what was being reported. I say this because I remember aircraft on visual approaches saying they had the airport in sight between 10 and 12 miles out. I do recall being able to see those aircraft and I do remember seeing the stars out that night…To the best of my knowledge, the ASOS was working as advertised that day with no reported problems or systems log errors.'”
ASOS is the Automated Surface Observation System. Media reports claimed that visibility was around 2 miles with haze, a far cry from what the tower manager at Martha’s Vineyard stated to the NTSB.
The weather report around the time of the crash also indicated clear weather in the area:
“2053…Clear at or below 12,000 feet; visibility 8 miles; winds 250 degrees at 7 knots; temperature 23 degrees C; dewpoint 19 degrees C; altimeter 30.09 inches of Hg.
2153…Clear at or below 12,000 feet; visibility 10 miles; winds 240 degrees at 10 knots, gusts to 15 knots; temperature 24 degrees C; dewpoint 18 degrees C; altimeter 30.10 inches of Hg”
Some twelve minutes after Kennedy’s plane crashing, visibility around Martha’s Vineyard was reported at 10 miles, described as near perfect conditions by professional pilots.
There were also questions raised about Kennedy’s piloting skills. However, he had logged in 310 hours. The NTSB report also reported Kennedy’s most recent flight record:
“In the 15 months before the accident, the pilot had flown about 35 flight legs either to or from the Essex County/Teterboro, New Jersey, area and the Martha’s Vineyard/Hyannis, Massachusetts, area. The pilot flew over 17 of these legs without a CFI [Certified Flight Instructor] on board, including at least 5 at night. The pilot’s last known flight in the accident airplane without a CFI on board was on May 28, 1999.”
Kennedy’s most recent three legs were with a CFI on board and along the same route taken on July 16 but significant rain and a 800 foot ceiling. Kennedy had, according to his friend, been flying for 17 years. Before Kennedy flew the Piper Saratoga he flew a Cessna 182.
There were also media reports that Kennedy was impeded by a foot cast from an accident he suffered while parasailing. However, according to Kennedy’s friend, the cast had aready been removed when Kennedy took to the skies on July 16.
The Kennedy friend also stated that he learned from an FBI agent, as well as a Secret Service agent, who were friends of the Kennedy family that the FBI originally treated their investigation of the plane crash as a possible murder. Kennedy no longer enjoyed Secret Service protection as a protected person, according to the friend.
FBI agents, after the crash, fanned out across convenience and other stores in the Caldwell, New Jersey area and asked if anyone had recently purchased epoxy. According to the French magazine, France Dimanche, a pilot at the Caldwell airport had reported he heard a “weird noise” coming from Kennedy’s plane on takeoff. The FBI theorized that a whistle had been glued on the aft section of the plane in order to emit a distinct, unique, and high-pitched noise for the benefit of someone on the ground who wanted to correctly identify the plane when it descended for landing at Martha’s Vineyard.
The FBI asked pilots if a whistle attached to the rear of a plane such as Kennedy’s could be heard from the cockpit. The answer from all the pilots was no because the sound would only be heard by those on the ground as the plane passed overhead while descending to an audible range. There was also a belief that if the whistle had been fashioned from a water-soluble material, such as plaster-of-paris, it would have dissolved in the seawater.
The FBI discovered that there was “suspicious boating activity” in an area of Martha’s Vineyard where Kennedy’s plane was descending to 2000 feet for its final approach to the airport. The “suspicious” boaters claimed to be fishing for striped bass. However, when the FBI asked local fishermen to corroborate the suspicious boaters’ story, they stated that the particular area where they were discovered was not an area where Atlantic striped bass would be found. In fact, salt water striped bass do not start to run in Massachusetts coastal waters in great numbers until the autumn.
The FBI also found an unusual number of extra batteries in the fishermens’ boat. The FBI was suspicious of the boat’s contents because after the plane’s wreckage was discovered, investigators found, according to Kennedy’s friend, that every light bulb, including that in the emergency flashlight, had been blown out on the plane and every circuit board, including those in the engine sensors and other electronic equipment, had been literally “melted.” FBI agents on the scene preliminarily concluded that a “massive electromagnetic event” caused Kennedy’s plane to crash. FBI agents also found that the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) had its battery removed, possibly before the flight. Every simulation the FBI conducted of a plane in Kennedy’s situation, with all lights off at night and with only the engine and the vacuum pump-operated attitude indicator functioning, resulted in the same result: the plane crashing into the water.
Before the FBI could begin examining the ocean floor for any “special equipment” that may have been thrown overboard from the fishing boat, their “murder” investigation was abruptly called off by FBI headquarters in Washington.
Kennedy was preparing to re-tool “George” magazine to take on investigations of a number of major stories, not least of which was the actual story behind the assassination of his father in Dallas on November 22, 1963. According to an article in Germany’s Bild am Sonntag on August 1, 1999, Kennedy was also preparing to meet with the deputy chief of Mossad, Amiran Levine, at the Oak Room in Manhattan’s Plaza Hotel the Wednesday after Kennedy was killed. The subject was the assassination of Israel’s Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin in 1995 and that Rabin was assassinated by one of his body guards and not the convicted murderer Yigal Amir.
Kennedy’s friend said the real priority of the “George” publisher was to re-open the case of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and the role that the father of the all-but-announced Republican presidential candidate for the upcoming 2000 election — George W. Bush — played in the assassination. Apparently, some documents had come into Kennedy’s possession that pointed to George H. W. Bush as a prime participant, on behalf of the CIA, in President Kennedy’s murder.
On a 1997 visit to see Cuban President Fidel Castro in Havana for an interview for “George,” the Cuban President reportedly told Kennedy a number of details about those behind his father’s assassination. The occasion of Kennedy Jr.’s visit was the 35th anniversary of the Cuban missile crisis between his father and Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev. According to Kennedy’s friend, Castro confided to Kennedy that a mafia ring headed up by Meyer Lansky, who lost his Cuban gambling holdings to Castro’s revolution, and a Canadian Zionist veteran of Israel’s Haganah army, Louis Bloomfield, were the primary planners of the Dallas “hit” on his father. Jack Ruby, who killed the alleged assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, worked directly for Lansky’s organization, Kennedy was told.
Although the information on J.F.K. Jr.’s plans to more thoroughly examine the facts of his father’s assassination came from a single source — a friend of the late Kennedy Jr. — this editor is in a unique position to corroborate part of the story.
On Saturday, July 17, 1999, I was driving to a hotel in Crystal City, Virginia to proctor a certification examination for a group of computer security professionals. Listening to the radio, the bulletin came across that John F. Kennedy Jr.’s plane was missing. The news came as a body blow. In a few weeks, I was scheduled to meet with Kennedy at his magazine’s offices in Washington, DC to discuss hiring on as one of a few investigative journalists Kennedy wanted to dig deep into a number of cases, but most importantly that of his father’s assassination. Kennedy had made initial contact with me via a colleague with The Village Voice. I signaled my readiness to do whatever Kennedy wanted because, first of all, I have always been an admirer of the Kennedy family, and after twelve years under Bush presidencies, that admiration has developed into a loyalty for which I make no apologies.
My past discussions with President Kennedy’s press secretary Pierre Salinger and Texas Governor John Connally led me to believe that the young Kennedy was on to the story of a lifetime — a lifetime that for Kennedy Jr. would be tragically snuffed out early.
After I heard the news report about Kennedy’s plane and knowing of his plans, I knew deep down that he was gone and that the renewed investigation of America’s worst crime of the 20th century was dead along with him. Little did I realize at the time, but I heard the news about Kennedy as I was driving along Route 110 past the side of the Pentagon where the worst crime of the 21st century would take place under the administration of George W. Bush.
In the end, Hillary Clinton was elected to the U.S. Senate seat that Kennedy was to run for. Kennedy’s sister, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg, would see her own hopes to be appointed to the Senate seat dashed when, according to John H. Kennedy Jr.s’ friend, Senator Charles Schumer and Barack Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel conspired to have New York Governor David Paterson appoint a virtual unknown, Kirsten Gillibrand, to the seat. Caroline Kennedy was instead offered a consolation prize of the post of U.S. ambassador to the Vatican, a position that Schumer and Emanuel knew in advance she would never accept.
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