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MI5 chiefs ‘missed key warnings’ about Manchester Arena bomber Salman Abedi
Zoe Drewett for Metro.co.ukSunday 5 Nov 2017 5:06 pm
http://metro.co.uk/2017/11/05/mi5-chiefs-missed-key-warnings-about-man chester-arena-bomber-salman-abedi-7055338/

Salman Abedi killed 22 people in the Manchester attack (Picture: PA) Intelligence bosses missed key warnings about suicide bomber Salman Abedi that could prevented the Manchester Arena attack. Key warnings about Abedi’s ‘suspicious behavior’ could have put the attacker under surveillance as a ‘high-priority’ target before he murdered 22 people, it has been reported. Five arrested following huge police operation in Notting Hill MI5 officials received at least two items of intelligence about the bomber that indicated he posed a serious threat, before he went on to kill concertgoers at an Ariana Grande concert in May. The findings come from an internal review at the agency, thought to have been sent to Home Secretary Amber Rudd last week. According to the Sunday Times, the review has triggered deep concerns within the intelligence community that the attack – the deadliest in Britain since the 2005 London bombings – could have been stopped. And MI5 director-general Andrew Parker is said to be in danger of losing his job as a result. In a speech last month, Parker claimed MI5 used the ‘harsh light of hindsight to squeeze out every last drop of learning so that we can be the very best we can be, now and in the future’. MI5 received warnings about Abedi (Picture: PAUL ELLIS/AFP/Getty) The internal review – commissioned by Parker alongside Metropolitan police commissioner Cressida Dick – reportedly focused on intelligence passed on to an MI5 regional office which originally deemed it not of high importance. But the report found it should have raised triggered serious alarms about Abedi. Schoolgirls, 13 and 14, seriously injured in stabbing on playing field An anonymous intelligence source told the Sunday Times: ‘There were a few calls made regarding several bits of intelligence which, if judged differently at the time, would have turned Abedi into a high-priority case. ‘And when a target is judged a high priority, you should place them under surveillance. ‘The greater the threat, the more resources you deploy for surveillance.’ MORE: UK Police said they hoped missing boy 'got raped' in voicemail to his mum Theresa May's odds slashed to leave as PM in 2017 Woman, 107, has parking ticket overturned because she couldn't walk fast enough to her car However a Whitehall source is said to have told The Sunday Times that the key intelligence received was not deemed ‘definitive’ of a specific plot. The former independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, David Anderson QC, has carried out an ‘independent assurance’ of the review and a redacted version is due to be released to the public later this month. Parker last month revealed MI5 is working on 500 active operations and had stopped seven terror plots in as many months.

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MI5 missed clues over Manchester bomber Salman Abedi
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November 5 2017, 12:01am, The Sunday Times
Abedi: ‘suspicious behaviour’
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mi5-missed-clues-over-manchester-bo mber-salman-abedi-q8mlmml5r

MI5 officials missed key intelligence warnings that could have put the Manchester bomber under surveillance as a “high-priority” target before he murdered 22 people, The Sunday Times can reveal.

The security service received at least two items of intelligence regarding Salman Abedi’s “suspicious behaviour” that indicated he posed a serious threat before his suicide bombing at the Manchester Arena in May.

The failure to act properly on the intelligence emerged in an MI5 internal review that has triggered deep concerns within the intelligence community about whether the attack — the deadliest in Britain since the 2005 London bombings — could have been stopped. The findings are thought to have been sent to Amber Rudd, the home secretary, last week.

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Evidence from the crime scene leaked in the US apparently pointed to a remote mobile-phone detonator with built-in redundancies to enable someone else to set it off
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4543336/Police-fear-SECOND-bom b-hands-jihadists.html



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kim and Phil again - Manchester

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On the face of it: Manchester
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Published on 11 Nov 2017Created 21st of October 2017 and finalised 11th of

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This documentary whilst reviews the Manchester attack from the 22nd of May 2017, is also an explaination as to why EVERYONE must review anything that is presented to them and not get caught up in the media's whirlwind.

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Not sure about the above
Looks like could be perpetrator inspired 'alternative media'
Just not enough evidence for me
Bizarre that Critical Thinker says it's wrong to criticise private security because that's an 'obvious sign' they're trying to increase security spending & help private security firms
This is the real deal

Manchester Attack as MI6 Blowback
VOLTAIRE NETWORK | 25 MAY 2017
http://www.voltairenet.org/article196455.html

According to Scotland Yard, the attack on the crowd leaving the Ariana Grande concert at Manchester Arena, 22 May, has been perpetrated by Salman Abedi. A bankcard has been conveniently found in the pocket of the mutilated corpse of the ‘terrorist’.

This attack is generally interpreted as proof that the United Kingdom is not implicated in international terrorism and that, on the contrary, it is a victim of it.

Salman Abedi was born in the UK of a family of Libyan immigrants. He has travelled to Libya several times in the last couple of months, with or without his father.

His father Ramadan Abedi, with whom Salman lived, is a former officer in [Gaddafi’s] Libyan Intelligence Services. He specialised in the surveillance of the Islamist movement, but two decades later has failed to notice that his son has joined Daesh (IS).

In 1992, Ramadan Abedi was sent back to Libya by Britain’s MI6 and was involved in a British-devised plot to assassinate Muammar Gaddafi. The operation having been readily exposed, he was exfiltrated by MI6 and transferred back to the UK where he obtained political asylum. He moved in 1999 to Whalley Range (south of Manchester) where there was already resident a small Libyan Islamist community.

In 1994, Ramadan Abedi returned again to Libya under MI6’s direction. In late 1995 he is involved in the creation of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), a local branch of Al-Qaeda, in conjunction with Abdelhakim Belhadj. The LIFG was then employed by MI6 again to assassinate Gaddafi, for a payoff of £100,000. This operation, which also failed, provoked heated exchanges within British Intelligence, leading to the resignation of one David Shayler.

Other former members of the LIFG have also lived at Whalley Range, including Abedi’s friend Abd al-Baset-Azzouz. In 2009, this last joined Al-Qaeda in Pakistan and became a close associate of its chief, Ayman al-Zawahiri. In 2011, al-Baset-Azzouz is active on the ground with the NATO operation against Libya. On 11 September 2012, he directs the operation against the US Ambassador in Libya, Christopher Stevens, assassinated at Benghazi. He is arrested in Turkey and extradited to the US in December 2014, his trial still pending.

Nobody pays attention to the fact that Ramadan Abedi has linked LIFG members to the formation of Al-Qaeda in Iraq and, in 2011, he takes part in MI6’s ‘Arab Spring’ operations, and in LIFG’s role on the ground in support of NATO. In any event, Abedi returned to Libya after the fall of Gaddafi and moves his family there, leaving his older children in the family home at Whalley Range.

According to the former Spanish Prime Minister José Maria Aznar, Abdelhakim Belhadj was involved in the assassinations in Madrid of 11 March 2004. Later, he is secretly arrested in Malaysia by the CIA and transferred to Libya where he is tortured not by Libyan or American functionaries but by MI6 agents. He is finally freed after the accord between Saif al-Islam Gaddafi [Gaddafi’s son] and the jihadists.

During the Libyan war, Belhadj, who had been living in Qatar, returned to Libya, courtesy of the Qatari Emir, and commanded the operations on the ground in league with NATO. On 28 July 2011, he organised the assassination of General Abdul Fatah Younis who claimed to have joined the ‘rebels’, but who Belhadj accused of overseeing the struggle against the LIFG during the 1990s.

In September 2011, Belhadj was named military governor of Tripoli by NATO. In 2012, seconded by the Irish-Libyan Mahdi al-Hatari, he created the Free Syrian Army, then returns again to Libya. On 2 May 2014, he is received officially at the Quai d’Orsay [the French Foreign Ministry].

In December 2013, following the discovery in the archives of Gaddafi’s Libyan regime of a letter from the former chief of MI6, Belhadj launches proceedings in London against the UK for having kidnapped and tortured him nine years earlier. British Intelligence then illegally places his lawyers under phone-tapping, although it is ultimately constrained to destroy the intelligence obtained.

According to Egypt’s Prosecutor General, Hisham Barakat, in May 2015, Belhadj becomes Daesh’ most senior figure in North Africa, this claim taken up by Interpol. Belhadj installs three training camps for Daesh in Libya at Derna (in the former property of Abd al-Baset-Azzouz), at Syrte and at Sebrata. In October 2016, he launches in London new legal proceedings regarding his kidnapping and torture, this time nominally against the former director of MI6, Sir Mark Allen.

Daesh has claimed responsibility for the Manchester attack, but without describing Salman Abedi as a ‘martyr’. After the assassination, Ramadan Abedi has declared his opposition to jihad in a telephone conversation with journalists. He has also claimed that his son had intended to spend the month of Ramadan [beginning 26 May] with him in Libya and that he is convinced of his innocence.

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Security services missed five opportunities to stop the Manchester bomber
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/24/security-services-missed-fi ve-opportunities-stop-manchester/

Manchester bomber Salman Abedi
Robert Mendick, chief reporter Gordon Rayner, political editor Martin Evans Hayley Dixon
6 JUNE 2017 • 3:06PM
The Manchester suicide bomber was repeatedly flagged to the authorities over his extremist views, but was not stopped by officers, it emerged Wednesday night.

Counter Terrorism agencies were facing questions after it emerged Salman Abedi told friends that “being a suicide bomber was okay”, prompting them to call the Government’s anti-terrorism hotline.

Sources suggest that authorities were informed of the danger posed by Abedi on at least five separate occasions in the five years prior to the attack on Monday night.

Manchester Arena bomber Salman Abedi
Manchester Arena bomber Salman Abedi
The authorities were also aware that Abedi’s father was linked to a well-known militant Islamist group in Libya, which is proscribed in Britain. Abedi also had links to several British-based jihadis with Isil connections.

Yesterday his father was detained by Libyan militia in the capital Tripoli while the suicide bomber’s two brothers have separately been arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences.

Father of Salman Abedi, the Manchester Arena bomber
Father of Salman Abedi, the Manchester Arena bomber
The apparent lapses emerged on a day of heightened police activity as the hunt for Abedi’s terror cell intensified.

Officers raided the suspected ‘bomb factory’ where it is feared he made the device before the attack.

Last night the Home Secretary conceded that Abedi was known the intelligence services, while counter terrorism officials were braced for criticism over the apparent failures

It came as:

It emerged security services are examining links between Abedi and an expert bomb-maker who had lived in the same street in Manchester
Leaked pictures last night emerged in the US of fragments of the bomb, prompting a diplomatic row between the Downing Street and the US security services.
Britain was placed on security lock down with soldiers on the streets and several high-profile events cancelled
The general election will resume with Ukip’s general election manifesto launch today
A minute’s silence will be held on Thursday morning at 11am in memory of the victims
A female police officer was revealed as one of the bomb victims, as further identities emerged
The missed opportunities to catch Abedi were beginning to mount up last night. The Telegraph has spoken to a community leader who said that Abedi was reported two years ago “because he thought he was involved in extremism and terrorism”.

Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said: “People in the community expressed concerns about the way this man was behaving and reported it in the right way using the right channels.

“They did not hear anything since.”

Two friends of Abedi also became so worried they separately telephoned the police counter-terrorism hotline five years ago and again last year.

“They had been worried that ‘he was supporting terrorism’ and had expressed the view that ‘being a suicide bomber was ok’,” a source told the BBC.

Akram Ramadan, 49, part of the close-knit Libyan community in south Manchester, said Abedi had been banned from Didsbury Mosque after he had confronted the Imam who was delivering an anti-extremist sermon.

A police forensic investigator at an address in Elsmore Road, Greater Manchester, after a suicide bomber killed 22 people, including children, as an explosion tore through fans leaving a pop concert in Manchester
A police forensic investigator at an address in Elsmore Road, Greater Manchester, after a suicide bomber killed 22 people, including children, as an explosion tore through fans leaving a pop concert in Manchester CREDIT: PA
Mr Ramadan said he understood that Abedi had been placed on a “watch list” because the mosque reported him to the authorities for his extremist views.

A well-placed source at Didsbury Mosque confirmed it had contacted the Home Office’s Prevent anti-radicalisation programme as a result.

A US official also briefed that members of Abedi’s own family had contacted British police saying that he was “dangerous”, but again the information does not appear to have been acted upon.

Abedi's own family background might also have been a red flag to authorities. His father was a member of the militant Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.

Yet Abedi was able to travel frequently between the UK and Libya, where it is feared he trained in bombmaking and possibly travelled to Syria.

His youngest brother, Hisham - who is photographed on social media wielding an automatic rifle - was yesterday arrested by the Libyans who suspect him of knowing about the Manchester plot in advance and plotting his own attack in Tripoli.


A spokesman for the Libyan authorities told BBC2's Newsnight that one of Abedi's final acts before the murders was to ring his mother. The spokesman said: "His brother felt there was something going on there in Manchester and he thought his brother would do something like bombing or attack. So after that, he told us, 'Having internet, I see the attack in Manchester and I knew that's my brother'."

The spokesman added that Libyan authorities were aware of Abedi going to the capital of Tripoli on April 18 and believed he stayed for two or three weeks.

He revealed that Abedi's younger brother Hashim had been investigated for about a month and a half over suspicions that he was linked to IS.

"We were not quite sure about this, but when we arrested and we asked him, he told us, 'I have ideology with my brother'. Hashim told us, 'I know everything about my brother, what he was doing there in Manchester'."

US authorities said Abedi was known to them prior to the atrocity while France’s interior minister said the 22-year-old had “proven” links with Islamic State and that both British and French intelligence services had information that the attacker had been in Syria.

Police forensic investigators at an address in Elsmore Road, Greater Manchester, after a suicide bomber killed 22 people, including children, as an explosion tore through fans leaving a pop concert in Manchester
Police forensic investigators at an address in Elsmore Road, Greater Manchester, after a suicide bomber killed 22 people, including children, as an explosion tore through fans leaving a pop concert in Manchester CREDIT: PA
Amber Rudd, the Home Secretary, disclosed that the intelligence services had been aware of Abedi, who had only in the past few weeks returned to the UK after visiting Libya.

Rudd told Sky News: “We do know that he was known up to a point to the intelligence services.”

Ramadan Abedi, the suicide bomber’s father who lives in Tripoli, gave a series of interviews yesterday in which he denied his son was to blame.

Mr Abedi told Bloomberg: “I was really shocked when I saw the news, I still don’t believe it.

“He was always against those attacks, saying there’s no religious justification for them. I don’t understand how he’d have become involved in an attack that led to the killing of children.”

But a friend of the family said Abedi’s parents had become so concerned about his behaviour they had ordered him to leave the UK and live with them in Libya.

Adel Elghrani said: “The father was so concerned he confiscated his passport. But then Salman went to his mother and said that he wanted to go on a pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia and she gave him his passport back and he came to England instead.”


Abedi then flew back to Britain, carrying out his deadly attack a few weeks later.

Counter-terrorism officers now believe that Abedi rented a flat in the days before the attack and stayed there until around 7pm on the night of the Ariana Grande concert at the Manchester Arena.

He carried the bomb to the destination in a rucksack and detonated it at just after 10.30pm as the US pop star was completing her last song.

Sources last night told The Daily Telegraph that there were two separate bomb factories, with the chemicals mixed in the flat in Granby Row before the bomb itself was assembled elsewhere.

It was not clear if the second flat had been discovered.

The photographs of the bomb fragments were leaked to the New York Times hours after Ms Rudd had said leaks of intelligence shared with the US authorities had to stop.

It prompted fury in Whitehall, with Ms Rudd and the Attorney General Jeremy Wright understood to be among officials who phoned their counterparts in the US to demand answers.

The Daily Telegraph understands that there is such serious concern about the leak that Theresa May will raise it with President Donald Trump when she sees him at a Nato meeting in Brussels today.

A senior Whitehall source described the leak as “unacceptable” and said the US authorities had been left “in no doubt about our huge strength of feeling on this issue”.

Government sources accused the US of risking “compromising” the investigation by repeated leaks.

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