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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:06 pm    Post subject: Malaysian MH370 777 airliner hacked? then 'disappears' Reply with quote

Something complex here.

    Boeing 777 has excellent safety record (cf 787 Dreamliner)
    Pilots normally have time to report problems - they don't "turn around" without talking to someone (unless there was a major, crisis)
    Full passenger list issued immediately (cf 9/11 inaccurate and slow release of information)
    Stolen passport linkage



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Malaysia Airlines: missing plane may have tried to turn back

• No wreckage found in search for missing plane MH370 after contact lost en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing

• Interpol warns of ‘great concern’ that two passengers with stolen passports had tickets with consecutive numbers and onward flight to Amsterdam.

• Immigration staff questioned as part of investigation into possible security breach at Kuala Lumpur international airport



http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/09/malaysia-airlines-missing -plane-investigation-widens-live


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Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 - MH370


The international police agency's secretary general, Ronald Noble, said it had spent years urging countries to screen all passports systematically.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/09/missing-malaysia-airlines -flight-mh370-turned-around-search
http://www.interpol.int/News-and-media/News/2014/N2014-038
Hmmmmm, how TF is that gonna stop ANYTHING Mr Nobbly?!?
with some large systems failure

Some top IBM bod was on board - Philip Wood - was he planning to become the next Edward Snowden???

Ok crash appears to be only 40 mins out of KL, looks as if the aircraft may have tried to turn back they say which would be logical

All systems cut out at the same time they say

Probably:
Big systems failure
Mid air collision
Surface to air, or air to air missile
Or bomb on board

The stuff abt turning round is crucial - but could be a bomb or missile de-pressurised plane with crew coping on oxygen for a short while

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The Propaganda of Death
by craig on March 10, 2014 in Uncategorized
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/03/the-propaganda-of-death  /

The terrible loss of life in the Malaysian air crash is tragic. But the attempt to ramp up a terrorism scare is ghoulish. We even had both the BBC and Sky speculating that it was the Uighurs. Now the suppression of Uighur culture and religion by the Chinese had been a great and long-term evil, and the West has been only too eager to shoehorn their story into the “Islamic terrorism” story. There s of course an enormous security industry, both government and private, which makes a very fat living out of “combating Islamic terrorism”, and a media which make a fat living out of helping to ramp it. Their spreading of fear has been extraordinarily successful given that Islamic terrorism is an extraordinarily low level threat and people throughout the Western world are vastly more likely to drown in their own bath than be killed by an Islamic terrorist. Indeed you are about 1,000 times more likely to be killed by a member of your own family than by an Islamic terrorist, though the risk of either is extremely slim.

The media uncritically trotted out the story that it was Uighur terrorists who were responsible for the dreadful knife attack at a Chinese railway station – with no evidence except that the Chinese government say so. Only when they impugn the Uighurs does the western media drop its wary disbelief of statements from the Chinese government.

There is no evidence at all that the Malaysian plane was brought down by terrorists. The Air France plane crash in 2009, for example, was caused by ice crystals in the pitot tubes giving incorrect air speed readings to the autopilot – this was because the plane had been incorrectly cleaned with a pressure hose rather than damp cloths. Most air crashes are caused by faulty maintenance procedures.

The two people on board with false passports were routed on to Amsterdam, and the obvious explanation is that they were illegal immigrants who had bought stolen passports. This is very common indeed. I know from my own diplomatic experience that passports frequently have to be replaced by tourists who no longer have them. I also know (and I do not refer to the specific individuals referred here) that very frequently indeed the person who has “lost” the passport has sold it. At tourist hotspots likely people are often approached to sell their passport, (about US$600 is the going rate for an EU passport) and then declare it stolen and apply for a new one. It is a scam you encounter frequently in backpacking destinations, Thailand being a key example.

It is a peculiar kind of terrorism which does not seek to claim “credit” or publicise what has been done.. No suicide videos have emerged. That the Uighurs would attack a plane from a state of their fellow Muslims is a ludicrous claim. Do not be taken in by the Ministry of Fear and its media lackeys.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooops so certainly neither a bomb nor a missile or debris would have been found - I'm wondering - er.....

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Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 - MH370
Probably:
Big systems failure
Mid air collision
Surface to air, or air to air missile
Or bomb on board

The stuff abt turning round is crucial - but could be a bomb or missile de-pressurised plane with crew coping on oxygen for a short while

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Ah, the Northwoods type scenario rears its ugly head.
If so this could be an act of war against China so no wonder Rolls Royce and Boeing spokespeople are not giving their names
What NATO bases are within 2,500 miles of Malaysia?
What was IBM's Philip Wood really going to Beijing for? Another Snowden?

Remember Israeli government, US, NATO and the West will do almost anything to get the Russian Black Sea Fleet out of Crimea right now.

Were the plane controls taken over remotely as they would be in a hijacking?
Have passengers all been killed after landing or are some still alive?
Radar possibly hacked as in 9/11 to conceal and erase the trace of Flight 370
Timing:?? A 'show of force' to the Chinese Government for not backing NATO in the Security Councl over the Black Sea Fleet Crimea?



http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB100014240527023049149045794 34653903086282-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwMzExNDMyWj

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Vulnerabilities in aircraft systems allow remote airplane hijacking, researcher says
Communication technologies like ADS-B and ACARS can be abused to remotely exploit vulnerabilities in aircraft systems, a researcher said
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9238320/Vulnerabilities_in_airc raft_systems_allow_remote_airplane_hijacking_researcher_says


Rolls-Royce data suggests missing Malaysia flight was in air for four hours after disappearing
By Derby Telegraph | Posted: March 13, 2014
ENGINE data from Rolls-Royce in Derby shows that the missing Malaysia Airlines plane flew for four hours after it dropped off radar.
Flight 370 went missing one hour into its flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
But new data transmitted from the two Trent 800 engines shows the plane flew for some five hours in total meaning it could have travelled more than 2,500 miles than thought.
In that time it could have reached as far north as the India/Pakistan border or as far south as North West Australia, according to the Wall Street Journal.
The Journal spoke to a source that is familiar with the systems that sends back bursts of data to Rolls-Royce's Derby site to monitor engine health.
According to the Wall Street Journal the engine data is now being analysed to track the plane's flight path after the transponders stopped working.
"We continue to monitor the situation and to offer Malaysia Airlines our support," a Rolls-Royce representative said.
"The disappearance is officially now an accident and all information about this is strictly handled by investigators," said a Rolls-Royce executive who declined to be named, citing rules of the International Civil Aviation Organization, a United Nations agency.
239 people were on board the flight lost contact on March 8 at 1.30am.
Read more: http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Rolls-Royce-data-says-missing-Malaysia -flight-air/story-20804909-detail/story.html[/b]

Rolls-Royce, Boeing Decline to Comment on Jet Report
By Gaurav Raghuvanshi and Jeremy Page
http://stream.wsj.com/story/malaysia-airlines-flight-370/SS-2-475558/S S-2-479770/
“The disappearance is officially now an accident and all information about this is strictly handled by investigators,” said another Rolls-Royce executive, citing rules by the International Civil Aviation Organization, a United Nations agency. The executive declined to be named.
“We’ve got to stand back from the frontline of the information,” said a Boeing executive, who also declined to be named.
Corrections & Amplifications
The Rolls-Royce executive said the disappearance is officially now an accident. An earlier version of this article incorrectly quoted the executive as saying the disappearance was officially not an accident.

Try 'Remotely Hijacked'! Wink
Was missing jet HIJACKED? US officials fear MH370 was captured and flown to mystery location after debris seen at sea is ruled out and new data reveals it was airborne FOUR HOURS after vanishing
US investigators examining whether flight was taken to another location
Officials suspect data from engines suggests plane flew total of five hours
Counter-terrorism officials concerned pilot or someone else turned off transponders
Four more hours of flight time would allow the plane to fly 2,200 nautical miles
That would put Pakistan and the Arabian Sea within reach
Malaysia Airlines previously said the Rolls-Royce Trent engines stopped transmitting monitoring signals when contact with the plane was lost
On Wednesday the Chinese government satellite imagery was released which showed the 'suspected crash site' of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370
Blurry images appeared to show three large pieces of debris - the largest of which is 78-feet by 72-feet
Vietnamese and Malaysian aviation chiefs ruled this out and said no plane debris was found at spot shown by China's satellite images


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Tony Gosling: the link http://stream.wsj.com/story/malaysia-airlines-flight-370/SS-2-475558/S S-2-479770/
no longer works, but article can still be seen by searching title, or:
http://stream.wsj.com/story/malaysia-airlines-flight-370/SS-2-475558/S S-2-479770/
(same as above link, but there is a gap between the two 's's in top link)


Extremely suspicious!!! (the news, not the gap).

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Okay - next step is to identify possible US military bases with runways around that 2,200 mile radius -
Perhaps the search should shift to Okinawa, Guam, Darwin and Diego Garcia?

Barry Manillow - Bermuda Triangle

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1. Darwin: http://www.smh.com.au/national/obama-to-send-marines-to-darwin-2011111 6-1njd7.html

US Marines and warplanes operating in the Northern Territory, and warships and submarines using a West Australian naval base, will constitute a permanently increased military presence in Australia that was announced last night by the US President, Barack Obama, and the Prime Minister, Julia Gillard.
The marines, who will arrive early next year and number 2500 by 2016-17, will spend six months of every year in Australia. They will train alongside Australian forces and, for the first time, undergo training exercises of their own.

2. Guam: http://www.japanfocus.org/-gwyn-kirk/3356


3. Diego Garcia: http://www.globalresearch.ca/great-power-confrontation-in-the-indian-o cean-the-geo-politics-of-the-sri-lankan-civil-war/15667


4. Okinawa: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=201055

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5. The Malaysian military reported Flight 370's altitude as 29,500 feet. This conflicts with eyewitness accounts from fishermen reporting a large aircraft at a much lower altitude around 1,000 meters (3,000 feet).

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-13/what-happened-flight-370-anal ysis-what-known

More evidence of a growing cover up - denials - failure to attribute - this is an info clamp down -pity the families!
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While the Wall Street Journal said it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence of terrorism or hijacking - they have not ruled it out.
A senior Malaysia Airlines official told Reuters that no such data existed, while a second official said he was unaware of it. A spokeswoman for engine manufacturer Rolls-Royce had no immediate comment.
Malaysia Airlines has said previously that the Rolls-Royce Trent engines stopped transmitting monitoring signals when contact with the plane was lost.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2579524/Hijacked-hidden-US-cou nter-terror-officials-fear-plane-captured-debris-spotted-Chinese-ruled -new-data-reveals-airborne-FOUR-hours-vanishing.html

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It must be Diego Gracia...

Evidence that the plane turned around

Malaysian air force detected intruder into their air space consistent with the plane returning

Diego Gracia almost exactly four hours away from point of disappearance (engine ran for four hours according to Rolls Royce - the telemetry means that the plane had not crashed).

The island is only occupied by US military.

The island probably has mobile phone signal (hence the passenger mobile phones still work).

Current search focus is in the Indian Ocean. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2579955/No-wreckage-no-cracks- fuselage-no-secret-engine-data-Clueless-airline-officials-rule-EVERY-n ew-crash-theory-going-come-REAL-information.html

Boeing 777 has the same anti-hijacker remote control backdoor as earlier Boeing aircraft such as 757/767. Presumably it must also be able to stop radio communications and transponder.

Timing of this incident intended to defuse or remove Ukraine from headlines?
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At the end of the day, Rolls Royce is on record saying plane was airborne 4 hours later than last known position - SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG (apart from the obvious 'People Missing').
Bit like KAL 007 (where best estimates are it was downed by USSR, but landed in sea; passengers ended up in Gulag (search for yourselves).

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Outsider: Passengers ended in Gulag? Have you a reliable reference?

Regarding Diego Garcia

- Apparently the black boxes also should signal independently if the aircraft crashes. (No signal received).

http://www.cabaltimes.com/2014/03/12/ma370-redirected-to-diego-garcia/

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Was Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Redirected to Diego Garcia?

It has now become fairly evident that the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing is not accidental. In fact, there is a strong possibility that the flight was commandeered to the US military base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean. A bizarre “extraordinary rendition“?


Also note the terrible photoshopped images of suspected terrorists. Rolling Eyes

Also interesting analysis on "Why Malaysia?" and the conclusion, which should give everyone here the shivers, 9/11 Truth... Shocked
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Actual flight path after contact lost coming out now - see maps below
Still the best and fullest analysis of evidence this is a cover up detailing:
Changing stories & backtracking
National embarrassment
Basic contradictions
Data not released
Political context

It seems to me that we can already draw a number of conclusions from the known data by pursuing a logic-based analysis of what is possible and what can be excluded as illogical.
http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2014/03/what-happened-to-flight-3 70-analysis-of.html

Yes, appeared to be heading for Diego Garcia



See also the ever wonderful

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-con tact-lost-162.html#post8374638

scienceplease 2 wrote:

http://www.cabaltimes.com/2014/03/12/ma370-redirected-to-diego-garcia/
Malaysia is probably the only country in the world whose recent leadership has openly criticized the IMF, Israel, the War on Terror and made claims that 9/11 was an Inside Job. Malaysia has a bustling economy, but the Globalists prefer plantation style economies, such as neighbouring Indonesia, which is completely under Globalist control. Since Malaysia cannot be subject to the so-called War on Terror unless they start openly supporting Al-Qaida, the only other alternative the Globalists have is to feed it to China, and the Panda will invite itself for lunch, Al-Qaida or not.

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@ scienceplease 2: There is quite a bit on the net; here is just one site:
http://www.rescue007.org/survivors_of_kal_007.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just love all those denials about that the planes engines were running for four hours after the disappearance...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/14/malaysia-airlines-flight- mh370-may-deliberately-flown-west-hijacked

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That most of the leads on the potential location, and fate, of the missing aircraft are coming from US authorities indicates that it is the Americans – and not the Malaysians – who know more than they are letting on.


Meanwhile rumour-mill

http://media.freescale.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=196520&p=irol-newsArticle&I D=1907348&

Freescale Semiconductor Employees Confirmed Passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370

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AUSTIN, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Mar. 8, 2014-- Freescale Semiconductor (NYSE:FSL) has confirmed that 20 of its employees were confirmed passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. Twelve are from Malaysia and eight are from China. The entire Freescale Semiconductor community is deeply saddened by this news. The company is continuing to monitor the situation and will provide more information as it becomes available.


This is the rumour (I am not convinced)...

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/03/if-true-this-should-be-kn own-austin-company-at-the-center-of-this-one-2917426.html

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Four days after a missing flight, a patent is approved
by the Patent Office for maximizing dies on a wafer.
4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of
Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX.
Patent is divided up on 20% increments to 5 holders.
Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%)
Freescale Semiconductor (20%)
If a patent holder dies, then the remaining holders
equally share the dividends of the deceased if not
disputed in a will.
If 4 of the 5 dies, then the remaining 1 Patent holder
gets 100% of the wealth of the patent.
That remaining live Patent holder is Freescale Semiconductor.
Who owns Freescale Semiconductor ??
Jacob Rothschild through Blackstone who owns Freescale.
Here is your motive for the missing Beijing plane.
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Still Report # 217 - Flight 370 Update 2
The hijacking theory is alive and well. Does US Special Operations know where the jet is?

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These phones can be EASILY traced!
Passengers shot or gassed?


Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370: Passengers' Mobile Phones Ring But Not Answered
IB TimesBy Divya Avasthy | IB Times – Mon, Mar 10, 2014
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-passen gers-mobile-phones-074447403.html
The mystery surrounding the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has deepened with the Chinese media reporting that several of the passengers' mobile phones were connecting when called by relatives, but the calls were not picked up.
The sister of one of the Chinese passengers among the 239 people on board the vanished flight rang his phone live on TV, the Mirror reports.
"This morning, around 11:40 [am], I called my older brother's number twice, and I got the ringing tone," said Bian Liangwei, sister of one of the passengers. At 2pm, Bian called again and heard it ringing once more.
"If I could get through, the police could locate the position, and there's a chance he could still be alive." She has passed on the number to Malaysia Airlines and the Chinese police.
A man from Beijing also called his missing brother on the plane, and reported to the airlines that the phone connected three times and rang before appearing to hang up, according to Shanghai Daily. Media reports claim that the brother had called the number in the presence of reporters before informing the airline.
The Strait Times reported that many of the family members told MAS commercial director Hugh Dunleavy that the commuters' mobile phones were ringing but they were not picked up.
To this, Dunleavy replied that MAS was calling the mobile phones of the crew members as well, which were ringing, and that he had given the numbers to Chinese investigators.
Relatives of the passengers are urging the authorities to search for the location of phones that rang using the Global Positioning System.
However, at a press conference in Beijing, MAS spokesman Ignatius Ong said one of the numbers that had been passed on to the airline's command office in Kuala Lumpur failed to get through.
"I myself have called the number five times while the airline's command centre also called the number. We got no answering tone," said Ong.
A phone company in Singapore that was investigating this number said the number was out of credit.
Families seek information
According to China.org.cn, 19 families have signed a joint statement saying that their family members' cell phones connected, but the calls hung up. The relatives have asked Malaysia Airlines to reveal any information they might be hiding, seeking an explanation for the eerie phone connections. The relatives have complained that the Malaysina Airlines is not responding as actively as it should.
Angry family members also threw water bottles at an MAS spokesman and threatened to protest in front of the Malaysian embassy in China if the airlines did not "disclose" the "truth".

Sharp Changes in Altitude and Course After Jet Lost Contact
By MICHAEL FORSYTHE and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDTMARCH 14, 2014
SEPANG, Malaysia — Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 experienced significant changes in altitude after it lost contact with ground control, and altered its course more than once as if still under the command of a pilot, American officials and others familiar with the investigation said Friday.
Radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appear to show the missing airliner climbing to 45,000 feet, above the approved altitude limit for a Boeing 777-200, soon after it disappeared from civilian radar and made a sharp turn to the west, according to a preliminary assessment by a person familiar with the data.
The radar track, which the Malaysian government has not released but says it has provided to the United States and China, then shows the plane descending unevenly to 23,000 feet, below normal cruising levels, as it approached the densely populated island of Penang, one of the country’s largest. There, the plane turned from a southwest-bound course, climbed to a higher altitude and flew northwest over the Strait of Malacca toward the Indian Ocean......
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Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost

This is the path before adding on the new statement from the US/Malaysia team, which indicates around the end point of the plotted path one of two directions were taken - one in the SW direction toward MEMEK and one nearly due north toward SANAR
According to CNN, the US and India have basically determined one of those directions is where the plane will be found, and that is where the two Countries will be looking headed froward
that plot is at best 2.5 hours, but we know the aircraft was flying for at least 5 hours, with enough fuel for maybe 7 hours or so.
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Fly by wire hijacking?
Critical thinking requires asking relevant questions and piecing together information from unrelated sources to build a narrative which accords with the facts.

There has been intense speculation over the disappearance of Malaysian airlines flight 377, initially thought to have crashed into the ocean. Little by little, information has emerged indicating the plane continued to fly for some hours after radio contact with the ground ceased. Rob sent this link, in the early hours of Friday morning, which claimed the flight was hijacked remotely but there was little other information to corroborate this claim at the time. Now evidence to support this theory is mounting.

AWACS Hijack Proven by Jim Stone (obnoxious Jew baiting website - could be pure disinfo campaign but...)
http://therebel.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=75027 4:awacs-hijack-proven&catid=347:opinion&Itemid=2455

At this stage it is premature to call game set and match on the conclusions in the article but the claims are consistent with the known facts to date. We know passengers and crew cell phones continued to have reception long after the disappearance and we know the NSA has global access to cellphone records. So if anyone knows where the plane is, it is the NSA but they're keeping quiet. What does that suggest? Fly by wire hijacking is technically feasible and may have been used in the 9/11 attacks. Allegedly, on board the flight were 20 top people from an electronics defence contractor working with China and Malaysia which suggests a possible motive.

But there is an even bigger issue here than this hijacking and 9/11. Increasingly, in this wireless, digitally networked world, we are ceding control over our lives to governments and corporations not just in terms on information but in many other ways. Modern motor vehicles are highly computerised and at least one reported fatal car accident suggests remote tampering with control of the vehicle.

On the Strange Death of Michael Hastings: Was the Reporter Car-Hacked or Bombed? By Gar Smith
In the early hours of June 18, Michael Hastings was found dead in the flaming wreckage of his car. The 33-year-old journalist was, perhaps, best known for the 2010 Rolling Stone cover story that ended the career of Army General Stanley McChystal.
According to initial press reports, Hastings was driving south on Los Angeles' North Highland Avenue when he "apparently lost control of [his car] near Melrose Avenue and crashed into palm trees in the median about 4:20 a.m."

So if you know too much or are a potential threat to the state or corporatocracy, you're safer driving a mechanical clunker. The convenience and sophistication of technology is a double edged sword.

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UPDATE: Exact logic sequence for proving the U.S. air force hijacked the Malaysian airlines flight.

1. Absent an awacs type system which can precisely monitor a received signal and spoof a return signal (or phase cancel it) you cannot disappear a non stealth aluminum skinned plane from ANY radar system. After vanishing from civilian radars, it remained on military radars that would work better against AWACS. That pretty much says it all.

2. Iran is an ally of Russia. Russia has Awacs type systems, but would not try to frame up Iran in a terror plot with a fake passport story supported by idiotically faked photos. Russia did not do this.

3. China and Malaysia also have Awacs type systems. Since it was a Malaysian plane flying with Chinese engineers, it is safe to rationalize out that neither China nor Malaysia did this.

4. Though the engineers on the plane also worked with stealth technologies such as Awacs, it takes a huge UFO shaped antenna to make such systems work, and Malaysian passenger jets do not have them as a standard feature. This was not a stunt played by Freescale Semiconductors.

5. Israel wants war with Iran, and the CIA hatching a terror plot with horribly faked photos stands in the evidence pool against the U.S. air force, which is their sex slave.

6. The obvious motive was military, and a real tie in was the fact that the plane disappeared from civilian radar while at full cruising altitude, but not the military radars. In this case the air force had to choose which radar they would spoof with Awacs (there is extreme difficulty with spoofing more than one system simultaneously unless there is a lucky alignment of signals) and they just hoped the military would not catch on. ONE PROBLEM, the Malaysian military was not as inept as the Air Force thought. PLAN FAILURE.

7. The Iranian terror plot fits the logic tree well. Since the photos were obviously faked, WHO WOULD DO THAT? WHO WANTS WAR WITH IRAN? No brainer there.

8. The cell phones are ringing, and the only organization in the world that can say where they are is the NSA. WHY THE SILENCE?

logic sequence output: Because the plane was hijacked electronically by those who keep the NSA funded and the NSA has been told to SHUT UP. If those phones were in lost baggage, the NSA would have said so RIGHT AWAY, and even the airline company would have figured it out by now, found the bags, heard the phones ringing and said, OH, WE KNOW WHY THEY RING. And the phones are not dead ringing as can happen with some american carriers, because on one occasion one of the phones was picked up and hung up without anything being said. But NOPE, NOTHING on this from the NSA, which means those phones are ringing on a runway somewhere, and the NSA knows EXACTLY WHERE. Yet they still support the CIA, which is doing it's best to hatch a B.S. terror plot about a couple Iranians with fake photos and THERE IS YOUR ANSWER, AMERICA HAS THAT PLANE AND IS PROBABLY WATERBOARDING THE FREESCALE ENGINEERS RIGHT NOW, EXTRACTING CHINESE MILITARY SECRETS. If the plane is now "found" in pieces it will mean "they" gave up on the B.S. story line and decided to ditch it somewhere rather than use it on the Petronas towers or the Sears tower.

The hijacking story won't work now that we know the Malaysian military was able to track the plane because a hijacker cannot switch off a radar system 500 miles away and cannot prevent the plane from being found on radar wherever it went to, ONLY AWACS COULD.
UPDATE:

The shills are panicking trying to prop up and support the "transponder" lie. Here is a response I posted to a shill that pretty much says it all:

I am not unaware of the situation with private aircraft. I have seen at least a dozen and NOT A SINGLE ONE had a transponder. Your claim that most private aircraft have transponders is a lie.

There was no "primary" or "secondary" radar. The transponder only identifies the craft that is being reflected on active radar.

I believe you told the most plausible lie people would ever believe, but you forgot something, I am former NSA and can call bs on practically anything.

You cannot tell me that the airport did not have primary active radar systems in Malaysia, we are not talking LaPaz Bolivia even, and even La Paz has active radar. Any city in America with a population over 50,000 will have an airport with active radar. You are implying that a 777 jet took off from an airstrip in an advanced country that was laid out on a dirt path intersecting goat trails and therefore had to transmit back to tell the airport where it was. What a load of B.S.

FOR THE RECORD: THE PLANE VANISHED FROM ACTIVE AIRPORT RADAR. THE FACT THAT THE TRANSPONDER SWITCHED OFF AT THE SAME TIME IT VANISHED FROM ACTIVE AIRPORT RADAR PROVES AWACS EVEN MORE, I KNOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT AWACS CAN'T JAM A TRANSPONDER BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY WORK DEFENSE YOURSELF BUT TRUTH BE TOLD, THAT OUTCOME IS AN OBVIOUS ONE and to the other shills, AWACS type planes have many functions and one of them is JAMMING EVERYTHING. AWACS planes have amazing signal jamming capabilities, this is so well established fact that you are going to have to shill even Pakistani agricultural web sites to front the lie that AWACS is not used for jamming. Give up on that one, even goat herders are not that stupid.

BLOCKBUSTER UPDATE: FAKE PASSPORT GUYS WERE PHOTOSHOPPED. Take a look at their legs. HA HA HA - that's a bad screw up. Here is the original article this picture appeared in, Needless to say, I preserved this one.

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KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian police dismissed claims Wednesday that they doctored photographs of two Iranians who boarded a missing airliner with stolen passports — saying one man’s legs were spliced over the other’s in a photocopying error.
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'KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysian police dismissed claims Wednesday that they doctored photographs of two Iranians who boarded a missing airliner with stolen passports — saying one man’s legs were spliced over the other’s in a photocopying error.

Revelations that two passengers on board Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 jet were travelling on stolen EU passports fuelled fears of a terrorist attack after it vanished on Saturday.

Police on Tuesday released photographs of the two men — now believed to be illegal immigrants with no apparent links to extremist groups — but the lower halves of the images were identical...'

Legs a bit too closely matched to 'body' to be 'accidental'?

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maybe someone should look for it on Diego Garcia? US military base stolen land or the Chagos Islands also stolen land.
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The phone records of 'ringing phones' MUST show their location, so why don't they come clean?
The Chinese will eventually force their hand, anyhow. Hope it's sooner rather than later.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Infowars are saying MH370 was hijacked by the Iranians!
www.infowars.com/flight-370-passengers-may-still-be-alive-pirated-boei ng-777-may-return-to-skies-as-stealth-nuclear-weapon/

Mike Adams says he has 'info' that the plane may be flown over Tel Aviv and exploded
This suggests to me that InfoWars is indeed a Mossad front

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Shockingly, the next time the world sees this aircraft may be when it deploys itself over a city like Tel Aviv and detonates a large nuclear weapon at altitude. The reason I deliberately choose Tel Aviv in this example is because there appears to be a possible link with Iran in all this, and the Iranian government leadership has reportedly said it wishes to see Israel wiped off the map.

Well well, a nuclear attack, not a false flag! And silly me thought Alex Jones & Paul Watson understood it was NATO that did this line of thing?

We were saying here on Wednesday we have another possible 9/11 style remote hijacking
Malaysian PM has only just admitted a possible hijacking today!

Never forget those bs denials of the Rolls Royce story!

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@Whitehall_Bin_Men: 'This suggests to me that InfoWars is indeed a Mossad front'

Not necessarily; they could simply have bitten at some well-delivered dis-info 'bait', provided by Mossad through perhaps 'third parties'...
Very clever how they came to realise there were two people using false passports, first it was 'Asians', then became 'Iranians'.
Iran would certainly not create such a 'casus belli', but it would certainly be in Israel's interest to fake such an attack.

And STILL no location despite the 'ringing' phones!!!

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Think we need to remind ourselves that planes can disappear---- into holes in the ground--Shanksville.

This one disappeared under the cover of darkness.(coincidence?)
Are there military planes like stealth bomber that can evade radar. Would an adjacent plane be able to disarm the boeings communications system and those of passengers mobiles using EMF ?
The satellite "pinging" seems to still have got through.
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Are the real perps of 911 trying there hand again?

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George Galloway naming then deleting? Diego Garcia as the plane's final destination, says he has the evidence
Amazingly Diego Garcia have taken the trouble to issue a denial!!
Suggesting that's exactly where this aircraft is

I do hope the US military have been looking after the passengers well as we all know they have little regard for human life

The US military chiefs will kill anybody if they think they IAN grab a few bogus headlines & blame it on someone else
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Phone locations can be pinpointed - END OF.
The 'Yellow Peril' will give as good - or better - than is dished out (I hope).

Old saying - 'If it's Boeing - I ain't going'!!

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Deigo Garcia in middle of this admittedly very large circle!

The main trouble with Diego Garcia as a final destination location is that it is very small - no where to hide the plane - and probably inspected by frequent chinese and russian satellites...
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'Nowhere to hide the plane' - except, of course, giant hangars!! Laughing
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Missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370:
Passengers' Mobile Phones Ring But Not
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HAS THIS ARTICLE DISAPPEARED?

http://www.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/news/missing-malaysia-airlines-fli ght-mh370-passengers-mobile-phones-074447403.html
IB Times - Monday, 10 March 2014
The mystery surrounding the missing Malaysia
Airlines flight MH370 has deepened with the
Chinese media reporting that several of the
passengers' mobile phones were connecting when
called by relatives, but the calls were not picked
up.
The sister of one of the Chinese passengers
among the 239 people on board the vanished
flight rang his phone live on TV , the Mirror
reports.
"This morning, around 11:40 [am], I called my
older brother's number twice, and I got the
ringing tone," said Bian Liangwei, sister of one of
the passengers. At 2pm, Bian called again and
heard it ringing once more.
"If I could get through, the police could locate the
position, and there's a chance he could still be
alive." She has passed on the number to Malaysia
Airlines and the Chinese police.
A man from Beijing also called his missing
brother on the plane, and reported to the airlines
that the phone connected three times and rang
before appearing to hang up, according to
Shanghai Daily. Media reports claim that the
brother had called the number in the presence of
reporters before informing the airline.
The Strait Times reported that many of the family
members told MAS commercial director Hugh
Dunleavy that the commuters' mobile phones
were ringing but they were not picked up.
To this, Dunleavy replied that MAS was calling
the mobile phones of the crew members as well,
which were ringing, and that he had given the
numbers to Chinese investigators.
Relatives of the passengers are urging the
authorities to search for the location of phones
that rang using the Global Positioning System.
However, at a press conference in Beijing, MAS
spokesman Ignatius Ong said one of the numbers
that had been passed on to the airline's
command office in Kuala Lumpur failed to get
through.
"I myself have called the number five times while
the airline's command centre also called the
number. We got no answering tone," said Ong.
A phone company in Singapore that was
investigating this number said the number was
out of credit.
Families seek information
According to China.org.cn , 19 families have
signed a joint statement saying that their family
members' cell phones connected, but the calls
hung up. The relatives have asked Malaysia
Airlines to reveal any information they might be
hiding, seeking an explanation for the eerie phone
connections. The relatives have complained that
the Malaysina Airlines is not responding as
actively as it should.
Angry family members also threw water bottles
at an MAS spokesman and threatened to protest
in front of the Malaysian embassy in China if the
airlines did not "disclose" the "truth".
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It's still there but part of another report on a different page -



http://uk.news.yahoo.com/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-passen gers-mobile-phones-074447403.html#xOhEkAt

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