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The Left Case For Brexit
by Bryan Gould Sat 26th Mar 2016
http://londonprogressivejournal.com/article/view/2460/the-left-case-fo r-brexit

An uncommitted reader of the British press would rapidly conclude that, on the issue of the UK’s continued membership of the European Union, there is an easily-drawn dividing line. Those who favour withdrawal are on the right in political terms; those who would retain membership are on the left.

Readers of the centre-left or liberal press would go further; coverage of the issue would suggest that the supporters of Brexit are not only right-wing, but ignorant, prejudiced, xenophobic, or just plain deranged. The possibility that there is a perfectly rational and moderate case for reconsidering our future in Europe, a case that is not only consistent with a left-of-centre stance, but actually required by it, is overlooked. The debate is all the poorer for it.

My own involvement with this issue goes back a long way. A s a new recruit to the Foreign Office in 1964, I worked on Common Market issues and later, from our Brussels embassy, I helped to organise the Wilson-Brown tour of Common Market capitals as part of a further attempt to have the Gaullist veto on our membership lifted.

By the time I returned to the UK in 1968, I was clear that the issue was not whether we should or could be part of Europe, since no one could doubt that we were historically, geographically, culturally, politically, and inevitably, an integral part of that entity, however defined. The question was not whether, but what kind of Europe?

I came to the realisation that what we were offered was not “ Europe” but a Franco-German deal guaranteeing free trade in manufactures to the Germans in return for subsidised agriculture to suit the French.

Joining “Europe” in 1972 represented for Britain a restriction of our trading opportunities and an abandonment of a rational and long-established trading pattern. It meant, through the Common Agricultural Policy, to whose costs Britain was and remains a major contributor, a substantial increase in food prices and therefore in domestic costs, making British manufactured goods more expensive. It also meant an end to preferential markets beyond Europe, and opened us up instead to direct competition from more efficient manufacturing rivals in a single European marketplace.

But have we not derived great advantage from our trade with the EU? Well, hardly. Let us put to one side the very large annual contribution we pay to the EU (a continuing burden, as it happens, on our balance of payments). We have now run a trade deficit every year since 1982, which was just as the full impact of EU membership took effect – not just a coincidence, since the greater part of that deficit is with the other members of the EU, and much of it arises in the trade in manufactured goods.

The result is that our manufacturing sector has shrivelled away, and our net investment in new manufacturing capacity is virtually nil. W e are of course solemnly warned that our EU partners will refuse to trade with us if we insist on a different and better Europe; but are they really going to turn their backs on a one-sided trade relationship that has been so much to their advantage?

The weakness of the case for continuing membership of the current arrangement is shown by the fact that it is almost always articulated in terms of rival pessimisms; we are constantly told that the burdens of membership are outweighed by the risks of being left out in the cold.

But we should take courage from the lessons of experience. Similar arguments led us to join the European Monetary System, which proved disastrous, and were then repeated in respect of the euro. Most people in Britain will offer daily thanks that we had the courage to reject those arguments and to stay out of the euro, and there is no reason to suppose that they have any greater weight in the current debate. Our trading partners in Europe need us at least as much as we are said to need them, as post-Brexit negotiations would surely demonstrate.

In any case, a decision in favour of Brexit would not mean, as is so often alleged, turning our backs on Europe. It would signal instead the opening of a new agenda, aimed at developing a better and more constructive Europe, and one with a greater chance of success.

A new Europe would not operate, as it has done since its inception, as a manifestation of free-market capitalism, serving the interests of big business rather than those of ordinary people. It would not impose a policy of austerity in thrall to neo-classical economic doctrine. It would not run a hugely diverse economy in terms of a monetary policy that suits Germany but no one else. It would not impose a political structure decided by a small elite, but would allow the pace of cooperation and eventually integration to be decided by the people of Europe as they and we became more comfortable with the concept of a European identity.

If we have the courage, we could, in other words, not only benefit ourselves but help the development of a Europe that truly does serve the people of Europe. That is surely a project to attract even the most enlightened of bien pensants.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brexit voters ARE 'stupid' and it should be 'reversed' says Juncker's EU chief of staff
BREXIT voters made a “stupid decision” and it is still “legally” possible for the UK to reverse the withdrawal from the Brussels bloc, a top EU official claimed.
By Matt Drake
PUBLISHED: 07:47, Tue, Sep 5, 2017 | UPDATED: 07:48, Tue, Sep 5, 2017
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/850048/EU-Brexit-juncker-stupid -voters-reversed-nigel-farage-withdrawal-bill-hammond-soubry

Martin Selmayr, chief of staff to EU Commission President Jean Claude Juncker, announced in a conference yesterday the democratic decision to leave the EU could be stopped.

Speaking in Brussels, Mr Selmayr said: “Brexit is bad, and it’s a stupid decision. The only people who can reverse it would be the British people and I am not a dreamer, I am a realist. Brexit will happen on March 29, 2019.”

The German lawyer added that it would be “arrogant of us” to say the EU could force a reversal to happen.

The comments come after the EU's chief negotiator Michel Barnier said he needed to "teach" Britons what leaving the EU means, as voters didn't know what leaving the single market meant.

He later backtracked to say he meant Brexit was an "occasion to explain single market benefits in all countries".

Mr Selmyar's comments have been described as “pig-headed” and an attempt to interfere in the forthcoming Parliamentary vote on the EU Withdrawal Bill....

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Juncker Unveils Grand Vision For A United States Of Europe
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Sep 14, 2017 4:58 AM

European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker delivered his annual state of the union address on Wednesday, in which he laid out his grand vision for federalist Europe, and urged European Union governments to use economic recovery (i.e., Mario Draghi's nationalization of the bond market), the political weakness in the US and Brexit as "springboards" toward a closer union, built on an expanded euro zone and a pivotal role in world trade. The allegedly unintoxicated Juncker sketched out a vision of a post-2019 EU where 30 countries would be using the euro, with an EU finance minister running key budgets to help states in trouble.



Among the key proposals put forward by the EU Commission president were compulsory Euro membership for the remaining eight European states outside the bloc, for new countries to join the Schengen zone, plans for closer defensive cooperation leading to the creation of a European army in the next decade and easier ratification of EU-wide trade treaties with foreign powers. Tax and welfare standards would converge and Europe, not the United States, would be the hub of a free-trading world.

In short, a blueprint for a United States of Europe.

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“The wind is back in Europe’s sails,” Junker told the European Parliament quoted by Reuters, citing economic growth and the easing of a succession of crises -- Greek debt, refugee inflows, the rise of eurokcepticism reflected in Brexit - that seemed to threaten the EU’s survival.

Juncker has also resurrected the idea of merging his own post with that of the President of the European Council, who currently represents the interests of its member state governments, saying it would be easier if “one captain was steering the ship.” Such as president would be chosen in an EU-wide vote. A powerful new EU-wide economy minister has also been touted, one which would have power to whip dissenters in line with a common EU vision.

In his best infomercial salesman immitation, Juncker urged Europeans to hurry, or else the generous offer may not last: “Now we have a window of opportunity, but it will not stay open for ever,” he said, emphasizing a need to move on from and even profit from the British vote to leave the bloc in 2019 according to Reuters.

Some promptly backed Juncker's blueprint: German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble said that Juncker’s plan to build a closer European Union based on an expanded euro zone was largely in line with Germany’s vision for the bloc. The German also said that Juncker had discussed with Chancellor Angela Merkel his annual State of the EU speech in which he spoke of a vision of a post-2019 EU where some 30 countries would be using the euro.

“It is good that he is putting pressure (to expand the euro zone) but the preconditions (for joining the euro zone) must be fulfilled,” Schaeuble told the ARD broadcaster in an interview. “It is in fact so that EU countries who fulfill the preconditions become members of the euro under the Lisbon Treaty”. However, the German who in the summer of 2015 nearly kicked Greece out of the Eurozone, added that EU countries wishing to adopt the single currency should not do so before their public finances and economies are sound enough as they could face the fate of Greece, which had to be bailed out by the EU and IMF in 2010.

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Desperate to put the Brexit humiliation in the rearview mirror, Juncker said that “we will keep moving on because Brexit isn’t everything, it is not the future of Europe," Brexit supporters promptly said his speech showed they were right to take Britain out of a bloc set on creating more powerful, central institutions. The most predictable opponent of the hour-long speech, met with stirring applause by a mostly zombified audience, was UK MEP Nigel Farage.

"The message is very clear: Brexit has happened, new steam ahead… More Europe in every single direction and all to be done without the consent of the people,” Farage told the floor.

“The way you’re treating Hungary and Poland already must remind them of living under the Soviet communists. All I can say is thank God we’re leaving because you’ve learned nothing from Brexit.

It wasn't just the Farage: Juncker's core proposal for countering what is known as a “multispeed Europe” by encouraging all states to join the euro and other EU structures was met resistance in both non-euro zone countries and potentially in Paris and Berlin, where the newly elected President Emmanuel Macron and about-to-be-re-elected Chancellor Angela Merkel are readying their own plans.

Poland’s Eurosceptic ruling PiS party, which is embroiled in a bitter legal fight suggested the plan is optimistic in view of the ongoing crisis with migration, unemployment, stagnation and terrorism. “We need to get the EU’s house in order before there can even be a discussion on centralizing even further,” said Ryszard Legutko, a PiS MEP.

Opposition also came from members of the European parliament’s left-wing coalitions.

“When I listen to [Juncker’s speech] with the ears of many people who feel left behind by the current macroeconomic policies that we have, then I have my doubts because he still pushes for free trade deals that basically are tailor-made for multinationals,” Philippe Lamberts, of the Greens-European Free Alliance group told the Daily Express.

However, the most focused and principled attack on Juncker’s plans came from Harald Vilimsky, of Austria’s Freedom Party, which prompted Juncker to leave mid-speech, and once again demonstrated the deep splinters within the core of the Union, splinters which make the integration Juncker is seeking impossible.

“What Mr Junker wants de facto is to force the European union into a single state, and we know that the euro is not a success story. The second thing Mr Junker wants is de facto to actually get rid of all the internal borders, we see 10,000, 100,000, millions of African and Arabs are going to be coming to our continent,” said Vilimsky, who serves as the vice-chair of the Europe of Nations and Freedom party within the European Parliament.

“They talk about having a defense union, but no we don’t want that. What we want is Austrians, we’re a neutral country in Austria, we do not want to participate in the defense union. The right road for Europe can only be the road where there is more democracy left to the people, more democracy left to the citizens where people can vote whether or not they want to have Schengen maintained or not, whether they want their borders or not. The vote has to be left to the citizen.”

Aside from his traditional adversaries whose opposition was expected, what was more troubling is that Juncker's "grand vision" also appeared to get the cold shoulder from leaders of nominally pro-EU nations. “Juncker is a romantic. We all have our own style, but I am more pragmatic,” said Netherlands PM Mark Rutte in response to the speech, adding that those “too concerned with vision should visit an eye doctor.”

Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen said he was against creating an EU-super-president, tweeting “Let’s not mix roles and competences. Need European Council President as voice of member states."

Meanwhile, Germany and France, the two foundational powers in the union, are preparing to submit their own plans for EU reform by the end of 2017, and while their current leaders remain in favor of the EU, it is unlikely that either will endorse Juncker’s federalism without a mandate from their respective electorates.

In short, Juncker's speech like virtually everything else out of Brussels in recent years, was just more hot air.



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Brexit BOOST: £65BILLION to be pumped into UK economy through tax cuts and public spending
BREXIT could boost the economy by £65billion a year through tax cuts and spending increases, according to a new report.
By CAMILLA TOMINEY, EXCLUSIVE
PUBLISHED: 00:01, Sun, Nov 12, 2017
Camilla Tominey: Germany to make up UK shortfall post-Brexit
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Quitting the EU will reinvigorate the British economy, creating a flood of extra revenue for the Exchequer that could cut taxes, boost public spending and slash the national debt.

The Budget for Brexit report was prepared by a 16-strong group of Eurosceptic economists, Economists for Free Trade.

It comes as the Office for Budget Responsibility reveals that the UK tax burden, at over a third of national income, is about to hit its highest level for nearly 50 years, when Labour’s Harold Wilson was in power in 1970.

Assuming Brexit occurs in the third quarter of 2020, the Economists for Free Trade group predicts that growth will improve as costs and unemployment fall, real wages will rise and higher output will drive down the exchange rate as new markets are sought by exporters.


The 37-page report rejects gloomy economic forecasts from the Treasury and Office for Budget Responsibility.

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It says: “It is certain that the OBR will not make the positive assessment of Brexit that we have made.

“It would seem that they, like the Treasury today, do not question the analysis of a clean Brexit made by the Treasury during the referendum, which asserted that the long-run effects would be substantially negative and the short-run effects would be a recession.”

The promise of a big boost to the economy over the next decade is based on a new economic forecast which factors in a fall in prices because of the scrapping of EU tariffs on goods from the rest of the world, improved export performance and an end to the annual EU subscription of £10billion.


The economists predict this will push growth up to nearly three per cent a year by the mid-2020s.

Over the first half of the 2020s, state borrowing and the national debt will fall.

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The report forecasts that the Chancellor could give away an extra £25bn a year over 2020-2025
The budget surplus is expected to reach £40billion a year by 2025, rising to around £90billion by the end of the decade.

The report forecasts that the Chancellor could prudently give away an extra £25billion a year over 2020-2025 in lower taxes and/or higher spending and still pay off debt.


From 2025 onwards he would have an extra £40billion to play with, making a total of about £65billion a year.

The research has been led by Margaret Thatcher’s former adviser, Professor Patrick Minford.

To illustrate the scale of the potential tax cut dividend from Brexit, the report says it would cost just £12billion by 2025 to reduce corporation tax by two per cent, the higher rate of income tax by two per cent and the additional rate by seven per cent.

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Austria: The hard-Right Freedom Party (FPO) has previously been accused of xenophobia and racism Italy: Italy's populist Five Star Movement wants to ditch the euro and recently elected an ex-waiter, Luigi Di Maio as leader Germany: Eurosceptic AfD emerged as the country's third-biggest party, campaigning hard against Merkel's open-door stanceFrance: Marine Le Pen advocates abandoning the euro and curbing immigration while endorsing anti-Islamic policies Hungary: Viktor Orban (R), leader of the anti-immigration Right-wing Fidesz party, which is firmly opposed to further EU integration Netherlands: Geert Wilders' far-right Freedom Party wants to LEAVE the EU and BAN Islam Poland: President Andrzej Duda (R), leader of PiS, was elected in 2015 with policies largely focusing on anti-Islamic and anti-Russian concerns
This would leave another £13billion which could be spent, for instance, on the NHS.

With an extra £40billion of revenue resulting from fast post-Brexit growth after 2025, the report calculates that corporation tax could be cut by a further three per cent, the higher rate of tax by another two per cent and the standard rate by two per cent.

This would cost around £20billion leaving a further £20billion to raise public spending while keeping debt at a prudent level of below 60 per cent of national output.

Professor Minford said: “When Britain leaves the EU it is essential the right policies are in place to ensure our economy thrives and seizes the economic opportunities of Brexit.

“The Chancellor and the Treasury play a central role in this and must show ambition and leadership. Regrettably, since before the referendum the Treasury and the OBR have been consistently negative about a post-Brexit economy. The Chancellor must use this Budget to set out a positive vision of a Britain thriving outside the EU.

“We have set out a Budget for Brexit that would provide huge tax cuts for hard-working people and cuts to corporation tax while at the same time reducing the debt to GDP ratio and enabling spending rises.

“We urge the Chancellor to set out a Budget that will take full advantage of the opportunities Brexit brings.”

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