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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:22 am    Post subject: Mind control - fact or fantasy? Reply with quote

The Illuminati mind programming and deprogramming revealed
http://www.whale.to/b/sp/for1.html

an excerpt from an amazing document written by supposed insiders of the Illuminati/MK ultra. This is about all that's left of this info on the web and my guess is it won't be there much longer. You'll need copy paste the link but it is well worth the info and worth copying to a file and saving as well.
It goes into great scientific detail and names names and places and explains how they pull it off.
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Councils (llluminati)--The Illuminati has frequent
meetings. Some of these meetings are organized to
appear "acephalous" and "accidential" in their
meetings, when in reality they are structured and
planned. One group, MJ-12 has gone by the following
names: the Group, the Special Study Group, the Wise
Men, the Operations Coordinating Board (OCB), 5412
Committee, 303 Committee, 40 Committee, PI-40
Committee, and Policy Planning Group (PCG). Some of
the formal policy and ritual groups have names that
all Illuminati members who have gotten high enough to
learn, will recognize: The Council of 3, Council of 5,
Council of 7, Council of 9, The Grand Druid Council,
The Committee of 300, and the Committee of 500 (known
as Fortune 500). Many of the meetings are conclaves
without formal names. The Grand Druid Council is not
something fictional, but an actual body of people who
formally meet and whose membership, we have been
trying to keep track of. The groups which make
decisions to control this planet are networked
together. Each decision has its own origin and route
that it takes.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

check out Trance Formation of America by Cathy O'brien (m-k ultra victim) opened my eyes WIDE
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS Fritz Springmeier goes into it deeper Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should be in the other controversy section.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The newest edition of 911 Synchronicity is about mind control...

03-05-07: Episode 018- The Transmigration of the American Nation: From Mind Control to Cognitive Liberty 577MB MP3.

It is available from here http://www.911synchronicity.com/

The prog is 14 hours long, but well worth a listen IMHO. Exclamation

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: perpertrators and victims (often fine line) speak out Reply with quote

Totally Anonymous, Untraceable Questionnaire
for Mind Control/Electronic Harassment PERPETRATORS

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http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/perpsurvey.htm


responses.

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/respones.htm

Victim's testimonies:
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/victm-hm.htm

Many controllers are themselves also victims of the same control themselves.

This was posted by one Scott Durr (insideinfo911) who claimed to be a runaway victim/perpertrator. He also claimed involvement in 9 11. He posted this at an american yahoo 911 truth group, a few days before he reported being harrassed by black helicopters in a follow up post. The next we knew his wife posted of his sudden death and linked us up to the obituary. and a memorial site. I just found it now backing up through the archives looking for something else.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The appendix is the most informative, it names the names adresses telephone numbers of the major centres world wide and what they do there, the majority American, but here's an excerpt about the Tavistock clinic:
Tavistock, England--This has been the primary programming center for England. The Rothschild programmers work out of Tavistock. A large number of slaves in America have been programmed there. Tavistock has been doing mind-control since before W.W.ll. Under the supervision of London’s W Board & 20 Committee MI6 and MIS’s Section BIA ran double agents and mind-controlled spies/couriers during W.W. II. MI6 has had an office at Century House, No. 100, Westminster Bridge Road. MI5 offices have been in part on Curzon St. MI5 has operated behind a number of fronts, incl. their fake travel agency Casuro Holidays. MI-5’s address for mail is Room 055, The War Office, London. Special Intelligence Service (SIS) dealt with all types of mind control. Tavistock was under SIS. The British government has had their own telephone exchange with a 222 prefix, which was later linked to another secret exchange YTAN. Outsiders could dial 222 8080 to get into the secret govt. exchange.

Men like mind-control expert/hypnotist Eric Trist worked for Tavistock. A six-man team which wore black berets also helped w/ mind control at Tavistock. Two people who became terrorists after their visits to Tavistock are Angela Davis and Stockley Carmichael who went to a conference at Tavistock entitled Dialectics of Liberation in 1967. Its main building is a bland 6-story building.

The address is The Training Office, The Tavistock Clinic, 120 Belsize Lane, London, UK NWs SBA. Tel. no. 071-435 7111. The chief exec. is Anton Obholzer. The Chair of Prof. Comm. is Nicholas Temple. Both are skilled in psychology. The Tavistock Clinic was founded in 1920, and in 1946 the Tavistock Institute was created as an independent body to assist the Tavistock Clinic. The Institute does more of the research.

The Royal Free Hospital at the University of London works with Tavistock Clinic, as well as the Science Policy Research Unit (SPRU) of Sussex University. A large number of Britian’s psychologist, social workers and police get their training at Tavistock. Tavistock has set themselves up as the authority on ritual abuse and MPD (DID). In other words, the primary programming site, is pretending to be the leading institution trying to solve the problem! That’s a good cover.

a quick google on Tavistock clinic is mostly presenting the location as legit, offering help by abuse etc, but plow through the 66,800 hits there are a few attempts at exposing it.
http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd= 1&q=tavistock+clinic+abuse&spell=1

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course it's real, just that they call it the study of Human realtions etc... Make it sound benign.

Tavistocks counterpart in the US is called Stabford Research Institute. If you watch episode 3 of the Century of the Self on google video, they film inside SRI.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

controllers speak out

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/respones.htm

controllers and victims (sometimes they are both) speak out here.
Scott Durr (inside info911) posted this at www.groups.yahoo.com/group/humanpatriots/ back in June, last year, just days before he died very mysteriously.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mind is my own

I think....

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This really needs to be watched and spread around as much as possible,
Please Help.

Escaped Sex Slave Exposes Government Involvement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYtXwoTw4hc

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mind control and electronic harassment is all to real
and still going on

Federation Against Mind Control Europe
http://www.fedame.org/phpBB2/index.php

This is a site for victims

http://www.mindcontrol-victims.eu/

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mind Control Series (Discovery Channel)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg716ODKuJQ&mode=related&search=

Nick Begich
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2497840938718341112&q=Dr.+N ick+Begich&total=24&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

We are moving ever closer to the era of mind control
The military interest in new brain-scanning technology is beginning to show a sinister side
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/research/story/0,,1702814,00.ht ml

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Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Defense Viewpoint, December 1, 1998

"One can envision the development of electromagnetic energy sources, the output of which can be pulsed, shaped, and focused, that can couple with the human body in a fashion that will allow one to prevent voluntary muscular movements, control emotions (and thus actions), produce sleep, transmit suggestions, interfere with both short-term and long-term memory, produce an experience set, and delete an experience set. It would also appear possible to create high fidelity speech in the human body, raising the possibility of covert suggestion and psychological direction...Thus, it may be possible to 'talk' to selected adversaries in a fashion that would be most disturbing to them."




The military connections (or: ‘tell us we’re paranoid’!)
http://www.tetrawatch.net/national/connections.php
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



http://rawstory.com/news/2007/British_Army_deploys_new_weapon_based_08 23.html


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And this. Beyond the Dutroux Affair.

http://www.pehi.eu/dutroux/Belgian_X_dossiers_of_the_Dutroux_affair.ht m

This is the most horrendous aspect of all I think. The levels of child abductions really going on is enormous and we don't hear any of it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread belongs in Alex Constantine's Anti-Fascist Research Bin:
http://alexconstantine.blogspot.com

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Russians have psychotronic weapon to zombie people

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Major-general of the reserve of the Russian Federal Custodial Service Boris Ratnikov tells that Russia and other countries work on making special devices that turn humans into zombies.


http://english.pravda.ru/science/tech/95965-0/
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*****Some images are disturbing*********

Monarch II: Introduction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOdTZEyAx2M

Monarch II Making the Case (pt one)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIJjPBbI790
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monarch Chapter 10B: Russian Mind Control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB3Qpe_7wuA



This reminds of ticker type you get on TV.....maybe I am paranoid

Mind Control Series (Discovery Channel)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg716ODKuJQ

Television Opiate Of The Masses
http://www.familyresource.com/lifestyles/mental-environment/television -opiate-of-the-masses
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

great links! thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the best videos on mind control

www.youtube.com/marsboy683 click playlist, click Monarch, click play all videos, 2hrs run time.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deca wrote:
Some of the best videos on mind control

www.youtube.com/marsboy683 click playlist, click Monarch, click play all videos, 2hrs run time.


ahaaa, I subscribed to that member the other day!!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A TI I know is doing some good research.......

You need to read this stuff - interesting and scary

Connections with mental health Fascism and Nazi mind control

http://www.whale.to/b/patton.html

By the 19th century, Great Britain and Germany were recognized as the primary geographic areas of Illuminati control. It then should be of little surprise to know the first work in Behavioral Science research was established in England in 1882, while much of the early medical and psychiatric techniques involved in mind control were pioneered at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany. The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was set up in London in 1921 to study the “breaking point” of humans. Kurt Lewin, a German psychologist, became the director of the Tavistock Institute in 1932, about the same time Nazi Germany was increasing its research into neuropsychology, parapsychology and multi-generational occultism.
Interestingly, a progressive exchange of scientific ideas was taking place between England and Germany, most notably in the field of eugenics: the movement devoted to “improving” the human species through the control of hereditary factors in mating. The nefariously enigmatic union between the two countries was bonded, partly through the Order of the Golden Dawn, a secret society which consisted of many high ranking officials in the Nazi party and British aristocracy. Top SS Nazi officer Heinrich Himmler, was in charge of a scientific project called Lebersborn, which included selective breeding and adoption of children, a peculiarly large number of twins among them.[2] The purpose of the program was to create a super-race (Aryans) who would have total allegiance to the cause of the Third Reich(New World Order).

Much of the preliminary experimentation concerning genetic engineering and behavior modification was conducted by Dr. Josef Mengele at Auschwitz, where he coldly analyzed the effects of trauma-bonding, eye-coloring and “twinning” upon his victims. Beside the insidious surgical experimentation performed at the concentration camp, some of the children were subjected to massive amounts of electroshock. Sadly, many of them did not survive the brutality.

http://covertmatrix.50webs.com/tavistock.html

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_tavistock.htm

http://www.barefootsworld.net/tavistok.html

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/2003/2-mental.htm

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/2003/1-mental.htm

http://www.crossroad.to/Excerpts/chronologies/mind-control.htm

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Main points discovered. You will need to read the lot to get it

Duality:Resolving the philosophical question of whether we are inherently good or inherently evil is tantamount in shaping our perception of reality;

I was told by a telephone call from an occult specialist - Julian Chaitor from FAIR in the UK that the stuff that was going to happen to me was related to Satanism.

Occultism - The Mystery Religions of ancient Egypt, Greece, India and Babylon helped lay the foundation for occultism

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By the 19th century, Great Britain and Germany were recognized as the primary geographic areas of Illuminati control. It then should be of little surprise to know the first work in Behavioral Science research was established in England in 1882, while much of the early medical and psychiatric techniques involved in mind control were pioneered at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany. The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was set up in London in 1921 to study the “breaking point” of humans. Kurt Lewin, a German psychologist, became the director of the Tavistock Institute in 1932, about the same time Nazi Germany was increasing its research into neuropsychology, parapsychology and multi-generational occultism.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monarch II Making the Case (pt three)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bd68wJtTtU

I have recievied a email from marsboy683 he is a TI like myself

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I`ve got a dvd for sale on amazon and createspace.com and books for sale on lulu.com
I'm not trying to make $. I gave out 120 free DVD's of the film to TI's but the police have my laptop and files now.
The torture is very intense and a film helps when books don't. Thank you for spreading the word.


If anybody would like to know more and help please think about buying marsboy683 films and books he is one of the best on the subject.

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Books - Marshall Thomas
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why bother with all that mess when they've got nonsense television and "news" programs that steal your brain and turn you into a zombie-fied idiot just fine on their own?
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Think they want to play sims with the zombie`s and get rid of the "trouble makers" oh he just turned mad and killed himself, what a shame.
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It seems your body acts like an antenna


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyless_entry_systems



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Here's something random that actually works though: if you have a normal remote unlocker that uses radio frequency (mine is on a Chevy Blazer), you will get much farther range if you hold the remote on the bottom of your chin and use your head as an antenna


video keyless entry remote not working use your head silly
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/01/video-keyless-entry-remote-not-work ing-use-your-head-silly/



http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF3/386.html

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One reason the question is unanswered is that the energy absorbed by a human from radio waves depends upon the relationship between the size of the human and the frequency of the radio waves. Just as a TV antenna of the right length and orientation picks up the best signal (the most energy) from a transmitted wave, so it is with a human being. It appears that the cranial cavity of a mammal will resonate at specific radio frequencies determined by the size of the brain cavity. At these resonant frequencies the human head will absorb vastly more radiowave energy than it will at other nearby frequencies.

An adult's head will resonate at a frequency between 350 and 400 MHz (megahertz). Being smaller, a child's head will resonate at a higher frequency, somewhere between 600 and 850 MHz. Since each individual may have his or her own resonant frequency, a particular frequency radiowave might affect one person more than another. Consequently, testing on humans--even if people are willing to let this happen--can be rather complicated.

Aside from the question of permanent damage by absorption of too much radiowave energy, there is the issue of how much radiation it takes to temporarily modify human behavior or mental ability. It is suspected that a microwave signal modulated (i.e., pulsed) at the frequencies where human brainwaves operate (1 to 20 Hz) may affect mental processes, even if the radiation is too weak to create substantial heating of the brain.

Quite obviously it is a complicated issue to determine the effects of radiowaves upon humans and other animals. Just knowing the strength of the radio signal a person is immersed in is not enough. Critically important may be the frequency match between the signal and the person's body and whether or not the signal is modulated at a frequency that could match up to a person's brainwave pattern.

Complicating matters even further is the finding that mammals can be made to "hear" pulses of radiowave emission. Pulses at frequencies within a mammal's hearing range can cause periodic healings of the head. These create pressure pulses in the ear that are interpreted as sound. Further, some studies have indicated radiowave effects upon cell processes that could affect the nervous system, the cardiovascular system and immunity to disease. The effects are not necessarily all bad: certain cancers are being successfully treated with radiowaves, and the future of even greater success looks bright.




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Summary of what is different about TETRA

1. TETRA has a rhythm of its own, its base station beat is 70.56Hz and its repetition frequency is 17.65Hz. Both are harmful frequencies, and are discernable not by fancy electronics, but by simple rectification of the microwave signal.
2. TETRA handsets have a sharp pulse at 17.65Hz, which is a key bio-frequency.
3. TETRA is persistent. Unlike mobile phone masts, TETRA masts are on full power 24/7. Phone masts are quieter at night, TETRA masts carry on the noisy party.
4. TETRA operates at 380MHz, which is more penetrative to buildings and tissues, than 900MHz GSM or up to 2.4GHz 3G (UMTS).
5. TETRA is an elliptically polarised signal, which is indicated in studies to be have more pronounced biological effects.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon Ronson - For The Love of Big Brother 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2vwQf7BEGU

part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktPRUm0Bwa8

part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INyGiNg7lFk

part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlytCbQCtiI

part 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUHEMrMjVfs
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

really interesting conversation. But what happened to the rest?
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yeah, I know can`t find part 6 and the rest if I do I will post them.
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