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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used to listen to this bernard hogan howe when he was top brass here in Liverpool. He was often on Radio Merseyside and came across as a decent no nonsense bobby who had come up through the ranks.Which was fine when dealing with gangsters but he will probably come up against the ptb in this case. Will be interesting if he dares speak out when he gets the little voices in his ear or has a shot across his bows.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Spy in a holdall' Gareth Williams' family forced 2 endure more derisory Met police lies about his 'suspect free' murder
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:38 pm    Post subject: Stefek Zaba Reply with quote

A few years ago #GCHQ #HP cryptographer Stefek Zaba also died in suspicious circumstances. Is someone killing British cryptographers?
http://caroslines.blogspot.co.uk/2007/03/stefek-zaba.html



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gareth's padlock was fixed to Gareth's bag with Gareth inside
His padlock had no prints on
Not even his own
Clear evidence that crime scene was forensically cleaned by the assassin or his/her accomplices
Obviously a professional 'wet job' probably by a 'friendly' intelligence agency such as CIA or Mossad hence the orders to Met police to cover this up
Disgraceful how diabolically low the UK 'justice' has sunk

Crystal clear message to all GCHQ & MI6 staff though
NO INDEPENDENT THOUGHT!
THIS COULD HAPPEN TO YOU!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Why did MI6 fail to raise the alarm about his disappearance for more than a week? Gareth failed to turn up for work on August 16. Police were not alerted by colleagues until Monday August 23. When turned up to check at his flat they found his body. Gareth's family have hit out at MI6 claiming they failed to make "basic inquiries concerning Gareth's welfare".
2. What was Gareth doing for the intelligence services? The 31-year-old was considered a maths genius - having gained O levels aged ten before graduating from university seven years later. He had been working for GCHQ in Cheltenham since 2001 but had been seconded to MI6 shortly before his death. However, according to his family, Gareth did not enjoy London and was about to be moved back to Cheltenham when he died.
3. How did his body come to be in a bag padlocked from the outside? Despite asserting that Gareth died as a result of an accident - police have been able to satisfactorily explain how he was able to lock himself inside the holdall. Some reports suggested that an escapologist of similar build was able to get in the bag and lock it from the inside, but these have since been dismissed.
4. Why were there no fingerprints around the bath? If Gareth got into the bag voluntarily, it begs the question why no fingerprints were found in the immediate area. Some reports have suggested the scene had been "deep cleaned" to destroy any possible forensic evidence, but police have dismissed this possibility.
5. What is the truth of Gareth's personal life? The spy's family and friends had known him to be a cyclist, fitness enthusiast and private individual. But during the investigation, another side of Gareth's personality emerged which shocked and surprised them. Around £20,000 of women's clothing and shoes were found in his flat. However, most were left untouched and an inquest found no evidence to suggest he was a cross-dresser. There was also evidence Gareth had visited bondage and festish sites - but again, this was infrequent and a coroner did not consider it significant in his death.
6. Was someone trying to smear Gareth? For a period of time, stories frequently appeared, attributed to unnamed sources, which pushed the theory that Gareth was gay, interested in S&M and may have been murdered by a gay lover. Such assertions were angrily denied by both police and his family - were they prompted by genuine evidence or was it an attempt to cover-up the real story behind his death?
7. Why was one of Gareth's phones returned to a factory setting before he died? The coroner was particularly concerned by this piece of evidence. When police first entered Gareth's flat, two iPhones, some sim cards and an Apple notebook were laid out neatly on the table.
8. Why was the heating left on? When officer's found Gareth's body, the contorted position of his arms and legs led them to believe they had been chopped up. The heating was also on, which increased the speed of decomposition giving investigators very little clue as to his true cause of death.
9. Why was his front door locked from the outside? This is regarded as further proof that someone else was certainly present when Gareth died.
10. Why did the Met's Counter Terrorism officers fail to tell the inquest about nine memory sticks found at his SIS office? This led the coroner to conclude that the involvement of SIS colleague's in Gareth's death was a legitimate line of enquiry.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No dna on side of bath, no palm or finger prints. Turns out now he had an interest in escapology.

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MI6 agent Gareth Williams probably died after locking himself inside his own holdall, a fresh police review of the case has found.

The naked body of the 31-year-old was discovered in the bag in his central London flat in August 2010 triggering speculation that he had been targeted by foreign agents because of his work.

However, the latest investigation by the Metropolitan Police has found that Mr Williams, who had a keen interest in escapology, probably died alone in an accident.

Detectives believe the GCHQ codebreaker locked himself into a sports bag in his bath and managed to padlock it from the outside without leaving any DNA traces.

The conclusion of an 18-month Scotland Yard review reverses the view of its own original investigators who found it was "highly likely" there was third-party involvement.

And it effectively overturns the finding of a coroner who said last year that Mr Williams was probably killed unlawfully.

The inquest had heard that two experts had tried 400 times to lock themselves in a similar bag but had failed.

However, days after the inquest had finished, an Army Sergeant showed how it was possible to climb into the North Face holdall and do up the zip before padlocking it shut. (but did he leave dna???-- was he a ghurka!)(Funny how experts at what couldnt and some random army Sergeant
can)

Mr Williams' family issued a statement responding to the outcome of the police investigation saying that they still felt the coroner's verdict best represented the circumstances of Mr Williams' death.

They also slammed MI6 or failing to raise concerns after Mr Williams went missing, therefore jeopardising the chances of getting information that might have helped to find the cause of his death.

The statement said: "This lack of concern for Gareth's well-being remains an over-riding feature of our thoughts following the death of a dear son and brother.

Announcing the findings on Wednesday, Deputy Assistant Commissioner Martin Hewitt said the investigation had included that "on balance, it is a more probable conclusion that there was no other person present when Gareth died".

He said that suggestions police had been duped by the intelligence service because the investigation contradicted the coroner's findings were "beyond credibility" and said he had not had the "wool pulled over my eyes".

He admitted that initially restricted access to MI6, using a team of counter-terrorism police to act as a go-between for the murder squad and the security services, was "cumbersome" and meant they couldn't do the investigation as they wished.

However, he said, that had changed and officers had been given full access to details of Mr Williams' work.

He said: "Three years of extensive investigative activity have developed a very clear profile of Gareth. He was, without doubt, a private person who was very close to his family and had few other close friends. That said, the universal view of colleagues was of a conscientious and decent man with a few well-known hobbies such as his cycling and climbing.

"There is no evidence of any animosity towards Gareth, and it has not been possible to identify anyone with a motive for causing him harm."

Mr Williams was found inside the bag in the bath at his Pimlico flat on August 23, 2010.

Pathologists said he would have suffocated within three minutes of being locked inside the bag.
At his inquest in April last year, the coroner Dr Fiona Wilcox warned that it was unlikely the mystery of Mr Williams' death would ever be satisfactorily explained.

She said: "The cause of his death was unnatural and likely to have been criminally mediated.

"I am therefore satisfied that on the balance of probabilities that Gareth was killed unlawfully."

The Metropolitan Police review into the case was launched after the inquest.


http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/spy_in_bag_mi6_man_probably_locke d_himself_in?DCSext.panellinkpos=2&DCSext.panellink=Latest+News

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Disliked the office culture, post-work drinks, flash car competitions. But locked himself in bag to suffocate and die?
http://t.co/BOmMzg4fN8
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10445222/Police-s et-to-rule-out-foul-play-in-spy-in-a-bag-mystery.html
http://twitter.com/tianran/status/400597192131366912
Despite an intensive police investigation, no one has been arrested and the circumstances surrounding his death have remained a mystery.
Following an eight-day inquest last year, coroner Dr Fiona Wilcox concluded that Mr Williams was probably "unlawfully killed" in a criminal act after experts found it impossible to climb in to a bag by themselves.
She said his death most likely involved a third party and he was either poisoned or suffocated.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The youtube version of the same video states a yoga expert tried 300 times unsuccessfully to lock himself inside the bag. Key for padlock was also found inside the bag.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nAPOTZr7o8


Some padlocks you dont need a key to lock them as they snap shut. No point in having a key with you inside the bag. Most padlocks come with 2 keys anyway.

Why in the bath?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fish5133 wrote:

Why in the bath?


For a Murderer, the reason for putting the body and bag in the bath could have several benefits:

a) If Gareth was still alive, and not in the bath, he could roll in the bag, maybe find a sharp edge and rip out of the bag. This escape route would be removed if he was in the bath.
b) If Gareth was dead then his body would start leaking fluids. Outside of the bath, the fluids may leak through the floor and inform the occupants of rooms underneath. If placed in the bath the fluids would run into the plumbing system and not be noticed.
c) In either case placing the bag in the bath would allow the bag, handle and other areas to be cleaned thoroughly of fingerprints and DNA.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good analysis SP
Did the Met look for Gareth or the wet job team's DNA in the bath's water trap I wonder?

Here's the despicable audio recording of Deputy Asst Commissioner For Specialist Crimes And Operations Martin Hewitt

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Why in the bath?


For a Murderer, the reason for putting the body and bag in the bath could have several benefits:

a) If Gareth was still alive, and not in the bath, he could roll in the bag, maybe find a sharp edge and rip out of the bag. This escape route would be removed if he was in the bath.
b) If Gareth was dead then his body would start leaking fluids. Outside of the bath, the fluids may leak through the floor and inform the occupants of rooms underneath. If placed in the bath the fluids would run into the plumbing system and not be noticed.
c) In either case placing the bag in the bath would allow the bag, handle and other areas to be cleaned thoroughly of fingerprints and DNA.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More planted story pain for the family
More evidence that a 'friendly' intelligence service killed him
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/former-kgb-agent-boris-karpichkov -2800352

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MI6 spy whose body was found stuffed in a bag 'was poisoned', says first murder squad detective on the scene

Gareth Williams was found locked in a sports bag in his flat in August 2010
Retired DCI Colin Sutton said the spy's death could be the 'perfect murder'
Police claim Mr Williams' most likely died after locking himself in the bag


Apparently plenty of unidentified DNA knocking around.
William's own fingerprints and DNA not on the bath tub.
OMG why is there any doubt that he was murdered? Rolling Eyes

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2664375/MI6-spy-body-stuffed-b ag-poisoned-says-murder-squad-detective-scene.html
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In the real world there is no doubt
In the official statements of the crooked Metropolitan Police you will find hardly a shred of truth
An article by Tom Harper last week described it thus, from a police insider

A police source familiar with the case said: “This news will cause utter chaos inside the Met. You can’t mess about with murder – it is the most serious offence on the books. There has been a massive cover-up to protect the reputation of the police and the family have been misled.
“The Met claims other damaging cases like the murders of Stephen Lawrence and Daniel Morgan were all such a long time ago. Well, this prosecution collapsed in 2014 and the full reasons were suppressed.
“I am afraid there is a cancer at the heart of Scotland Yard that has never, ever been dealt with."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/exclusive-major-murder-case -collapses-in-new-police-corruption-scandal-9553023.html

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Spy found dead in a bag 'had infuriated his MI6 bosses by illegally hacking into secret US data on Bill Clinton'

By Jenny Stanton For Mailonline
11:49 30 Aug 2015, updated 14:56 30 Aug 2015

Gareth Williams's body was found in a bag at his London flat five years ago
Spy illegally hacked into secret data on former U.S. president Bill Clinton
Personal voicemail messages left by the spy were deleted after he died
The British spy whose body was found padlocked inside a bag in his flat had illegally hacked into secret data on former U.S. president Bill Clinton, it has been revealed.

Gareth Williams, 31, was discovered in a holdall in the bath at his London home five years ago this month, but the mystery surrounding his death has never been solved.

Today, it has been revealed the spy had dug out a guest list for an event Clinton was due to attend as a favour for a friend.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3215890/Spy-dead-bag-infuriate d-MI6-bosses-illegally-hacking-secret-data-Bill-Clinton.html

Agents 'killed the body-in-bag spy... then got into his flat through skylight to destroy evidence': New theory could solve the mystery five years later
Bill Clinton leaves Bill Murray starstruck as it's revealed Hillary blocked him from giving speeches in North Korea and the Congo
The hack breached Mr Williams' security clearance and this sparked anger among MI6 bosses as tensions rose with U.S. security services over the spy's transatlantic work, The Sun on Sunday has reported.

A source said: 'The Clinton diary hack came at a time when Williams' work with America was of the most sensitive nature.

'It was a diplomatic nightmare for Sir John Sawers, the new director of MI6 at the time.'

The paper has also reported that voicemail messages Mr Williams, a maths genius and expert cryptographer, left for family and friends were deleted shortly after his death.

Earlier this month, it was revealed that detectives who investigated the mysterious death believe he was murdered and that his killers then broke back in through a skylight to cover their tracks.

The claim centres on the revelation that part of the forensic equipment placed in the flat after the body was found was moved – despite the fact the building was under armed police guard.

The theory supports his family’s suspicions he was murdered by ‘agents specialising in the dark arts of the secret services’.

During Mr Williams' inquest, a yoga expert failed to lock himself inside an identical bag without any outside assistance +7
During Mr Williams' inquest, a yoga expert failed to lock himself inside an identical bag without any outside assistance
THEORIES SURROUNDING SPY GARETH WILLIAMS' DEATH

The Russian mafia assassinated him in a bid to stop him investigating money-laundering networks.
He was killed by MI6 or American agents after stumbling on sensitive data, or because he threatened to make secret intelligence public.
Mr Williams was killed by a lover during a bizarre sex game. It has been claimed he had close links with London's drag and bondage scenes.
The spy locked himself in the bag and no one else was involved.
He was poisoned.
Agents killed Mr Williams then got into his flat through a skylight to destroy evidence.
Mr Williams had been working with the American National Security Agency in Washington before returning to London, where he underwent training and was sent on active operations.

The exact nature of his work remains a closely guarded secret, but sources claim he dealt with equipment that tracked the flow of cash from Russia to Europe.

The technology enabled MI6 to follow money trails from bank accounts in Russia to criminal European gangs. One theory is that Mr Williams had disrupted a mafia ring closely linked to the Russian state.

Cars registered to the Russian Embassy were spotted near his Pimlico flat just days before his body was discovered on August 23, 2010.

Mr Williams was last seen alive on August 15 – a Kremlin car was seen near his property that day.

Other lines of inquiry, also dismissed by the Metropolitan Police at the time, were that he was killed by MI6 or American agents after stumbling on sensitive data, or because he threatened to make secret intelligence public.

There were also claims Mr Williams may have been killed by a lover during a bizarre sex game.

Coroner Dr Fiona Wilcox, who heard the 2012 inquest into his death, criticised MI6 for failing to report that the spy had been missing for a week, saying this caused extra suffering for his family and led to the loss of forensic evidence.

The delay, for which MI6 apologised, also meant a Home Office pathologist was unable to find a cause of death.

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Gareth Williams's body was found in a bag at his London flat five years ago
Spy illegally hacked into secret data on former U.S. president Bill Clinton
Personal voicemail messages left by the spy were deleted after he died
The British spy whose body was found padlocked inside a bag in his flat had illegally hacked into secret data on former U.S. president Bill Clinton, it has been revealed.

Gareth Williams, 31, was discovered in a holdall in the bath at his London home five years ago this month, but the mystery surrounding his death has never been solved.

Today, it has been revealed the spy had dug out a guest list for an event Clinton was due to attend as a favour for a friend.

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Agents 'killed the body-in-bag spy... then got into his flat through skylight to destroy evidence': New theory could solve the mystery five years later
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The hack breached Mr Williams' security clearance and this sparked anger among MI6 bosses as tensions rose with U.S. security services over the spy's transatlantic work, The Sun on Sunday has reported.

A source said: 'The Clinton diary hack came at a time when Williams' work with America was of the most sensitive nature.

'It was a diplomatic nightmare for Sir John Sawers, the new director of MI6 at the time.'

The paper has also reported that voicemail messages Mr Williams, a maths genius and expert cryptographer, left for family and friends were deleted shortly after his death.

Earlier this month, it was revealed that detectives who investigated the mysterious death believe he was murdered and that his killers then broke back in through a skylight to cover their tracks.

The claim centres on the revelation that part of the forensic equipment placed in the flat after the body was found was moved – despite the fact the building was under armed police guard.

The theory supports his family’s suspicions he was murdered by ‘agents specialising in the dark arts of the secret services’.

During Mr Williams' inquest, a yoga expert failed to lock himself inside an identical bag without any outside assistance +7
During Mr Williams' inquest, a yoga expert failed to lock himself inside an identical bag without any outside assistance
THEORIES SURROUNDING SPY GARETH WILLIAMS' DEATH

The Russian mafia assassinated him in a bid to stop him investigating money-laundering networks.
He was killed by MI6 or American agents after stumbling on sensitive data, or because he threatened to make secret intelligence public.
Mr Williams was killed by a lover during a bizarre sex game. It has been claimed he had close links with London's drag and bondage scenes.
The spy locked himself in the bag and no one else was involved.
He was poisoned.
Agents killed Mr Williams then got into his flat through a skylight to destroy evidence.
Mr Williams had been working with the American National Security Agency in Washington before returning to London, where he underwent training and was sent on active operations.

The exact nature of his work remains a closely guarded secret, but sources claim he dealt with equipment that tracked the flow of cash from Russia to Europe.

The technology enabled MI6 to follow money trails from bank accounts in Russia to criminal European gangs. One theory is that Mr Williams had disrupted a mafia ring closely linked to the Russian state.

Cars registered to the Russian Embassy were spotted near his Pimlico flat just days before his body was discovered on August 23, 2010.

Mr Williams was last seen alive on August 15 – a Kremlin car was seen near his property that day.

Other lines of inquiry, also dismissed by the Metropolitan Police at the time, were that he was killed by MI6 or American agents after stumbling on sensitive data, or because he threatened to make secret intelligence public.

There were also claims Mr Williams may have been killed by a lover during a bizarre sex game.

Coroner Dr Fiona Wilcox, who heard the 2012 inquest into his death, criticised MI6 for failing to report that the spy had been missing for a week, saying this caused extra suffering for his family and led to the loss of forensic evidence.

The delay, for which MI6 apologised, also meant a Home Office pathologist was unable to find a cause of death.


Former Detective Chief Inspector Colin Sutton was the most senior officer on the scene when he arrived at Mr Williams' flat in Pimlico on August 23, 2010

Dr Wilcox concluded that Mr Williams’s death was ‘unnatural and likely to have been criminally mediated’.

She said she was satisfied ‘on the balance of probabilities that Gareth was killed unlawfully’, as it was likely someone else had put his body in the bag and locked it.

But a year later, Scotland Yard ended a review of the investigation, saying it was more likely Williams had locked himself in the bag and that no one else was involved.

This is despite there being no traces of Mr Williams' own DNA on the padlock of the bag he was found in. His palm prints were not found on the bathtub which held the bag.

Another theory was that Mr William's was poisoned. Former Detective Chief Inspector Colin Sutton was the most senior officer on the scene when he arrived at Mr Williams' flat in Pimlico on August 23, 2010.

He thought the flat was unusually warm when he arrived, claiming the heating was turned up to its maximum setting, possibly to assist with decomposition.

He said: 'If he had been poisoned, then the chemical compounds might have vanished by the time toxicology results were conducted.'
Dr Wilcox concluded that Mr Williams’s death was ‘unnatural and likely to have been criminally mediated’.

She said she was satisfied ‘on the balance of probabilities that Gareth was killed unlawfully’, as it was likely someone else had put his body in the bag and locked it.

But a year later, Scotland Yard ended a review of the investigation, saying it was more likely Williams had locked himself in the bag and that no one else was involved.

This is despite there being no traces of Mr Williams' own DNA on the padlock of the bag he was found in. His palm prints were not found on the bathtub which held the bag.

Another theory was that Mr William's was poisoned. Former Detective Chief Inspector Colin Sutton was the most senior officer on the scene when he arrived at Mr Williams' flat in Pimlico on August 23, 2010.

He thought the flat was unusually warm when he arrived, claiming the heating was turned up to its maximum setting, possibly to assist with decomposition.

He said: 'If he had been poisoned, then the chemical compounds might have vanished by the time toxicology results were conducted.'

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what would be the motive for murdering him.?

out of spite? I doubt it

to send a" message" to someone or others? possibly

fear he had other incriminating evidence? possibly

to stop him doing it again for GCHQ or other countries? maybe.

.Thought for the poor parents still wondering and not going to be told the truth.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not too sure about this --would Williams be the only one in MI5/6 to know spy identity? I doubt it.


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A Russian spy who infiltrated Britain's top secret GCHQ base is passing secrets to Moscow, a former major in the KGB says.

Defector Boris Karpichkov claims to have has new evidence backing his dramatic claim that body-in-a-bag victim Gareth Williams was murdered because he knew the Russian mole's identity.

Maths genius and GCHQ codebreaker Williams, 31, was found dead, padlocked inside a holdall in the bath at his London home in August 2010.

At the time of his death he was on secondment to MI6.

Karpichkov, 56, who by coincidence lived near Williams' flat in Pimlico, south London, has been investigating the mysterious death ever since.

According to him, Moscow intelligence sources have confirmed that the Briton was murdered by the SVR, the KGB's successor, after a blackmail attempt failed.

The Russians had hoped to recruit Williams as a double agent in an operation codenamed Sweetie.

Moscow agents had discovered the spy's fondness for crossand and were threatening to reveal his secret unkless he co-operated.

An inquest into his death heard quest into h heard £20,000 worth of women's clothing was found at his flat.

Karpichkov believes Williams signed his own death warrant by defying the blackmail attempt.

He said: "Williams did not break down when confronted.

"But he recklessly said he knew the person who had tipped the Russians off about him.

"The SVR then had no alternative but to exterminate him in order to protect their agent inside GCHQ."

The SVR had kept Williams under intensive surveillance to gather intensive su "compromising material" on him after their GCHQ mole alerted them that his private live activities while at the communications and intelligence base in Cheltenham made him ripe for recruitment.

Russian spymasters had already put Karpichkov under a death sentence after he escaped to Britain 17 years ago - carrying two suitcases full of secrets.

The ex-KGB man noticed Russian diplomatic cars loitering in the Pimlico area of London in the days leading up to Williams' death and had made notes their numbers. Mistakenly, he became conthat vinced the Russian surveillance was aimed at him and that a hit squad was on its way to kill him.

Only after the death of Williams did he he realise the cars were actually there to monitor the MI6 operative.

Karpichkov recalled: "I had never seen those cars before - and I never saw them again."

The ex-KGB man claims that Williams was killed by pushing a needleless syringe containing untraceable poison into his ear.

He was then bundled into the bag because his murderers could not dispose of the body.

Karpichkov says an SVR clean-up team later returned to William's flat through a skylight and removed any remaining incriminating evidence.

Although the 2012 inquest said the death of Williams was "likely to have been criminally meditated" a subsequent police investigation came to the conclusion it was an accident.

They decided Williams had suffocated when a sex game went disastrously wrong.

Karpichkov believes different - and added: "As far as I know the mole is still operating inside GCHQ."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/russia-has-spy-gchq-body-6522576 #rlabs=4%20rt$category%20p$9
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horrific (lies) in today's Mirror/People with no consideration whatever to their effect on Gareth's family
Russia 'has spy in GCHQ and body-in-bag MI6 victim Gareth Williams was killed to protect their identity' http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/russia-has-spy-gchq-body-6522576
And this may be why. Can't let the truth get its boots on when you're counting on the press to back you in the up and coming war with Russia Rolling Eyes

GCHQ codebreaker Gareth Williams was 'murdered', believes author and MI6 operative Frederick Forsyth
Gareth Williams was found dead in his flat in 2010
last Friday at 11:26 AM By Gloucestershire Echo
Internationally best-selling author and former MI6 operative Frederick Forsyth has revealed that he believes former GCHQ worker Gareth Williams' death was 'clearly murder'.
The author, famous for thrillers including The Day of The Jackal, The Odessa Files and Dogs of War, spoke to the Gloucestershire Echo's GL magazine in an exclusive interview ahead of his appearance at Cheltenham Literature Festival next Friday.
The death of Gareth Williams divided opinion after conflicting conclusions were drawn by the coroner and Scotland Yard.
The naked body of the 31-year-old codes and ciphers expert was found in a padlocked holdall in the bath of his top-floor flat in Pimlico, central London, on August, 23, 2010.
Agreeing that the unresolved case bore similarities to a fictional plot, Frederick Forsyth said: "It might have been, because obviously it was weird, and inexplicable, and I don't think we ever got to the bottom of it properly and we never will now.
"And occasionally murders, and it was clearly murder I think, but there are murders of course that are never ever solved and this may well be one."
Gareth, who was on secondment to MI6 from GCHQ, was due to return to Cheltenham the week after he died.
A coroner concluded that Williams was probably unlawfully killed and his death the result of a criminal act following an eight-day inquest in 2012,
Westminster coroner, Dr Fiona Wilcox, said he was probably either suffocated or poisoned, before a third party locked and placed the bag in the bath.
But Scotland Yard's three-year inquiry concluding in 2013 stated that Williams was 'most probably' alone when he died.
The author and former journalist also spoke about his recent admission that he was an agent for the Secret Intelligence Service, or MI6, in the past.
"Well, it's called asset or agent but really it's errand runner. I just ran a few errands, that's all."
The author will make a rare appearance at Cheltenham Literature Festival on Friday, October 2. Read the full interview in this weekend's new GL magazine, free exclusively with the Gloucestershire Echo and Gloucester Citizen.
http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/GCHQ-codebreaker-Garath-Williams- murdered/story-27867367-detail/story.html

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