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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:20 am    Post subject: United Hosting's diabolical customer service - forum outage Reply with quote

Forum outage Wed17th & Thu18th December 2008

Due to a threatening legal letter from Schillings lawyers dated 16th December 2008 the site was suspended by Simon at United Hosting.

Schillings were acting for
Arpad Busson, EIM Group and ARK schools

and complaining about allegations entitled

ARK, EIM and Subprime Mortgages.

now hidden

Site down 7pm 17th December - back again at 2am 18th December.


And possibly a misunderstanding by me.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Down again from approx 11am & 9pm on Thursday 18th December due to developing/changing legal interpretation of the law by UH.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apologies to users but the 'War on Children' section which includes the famous 'Common Purpose' thread has been disabled for at least 24 hours while these legal issues are resolved.

I am now sorting through posts to see what does and what does not need to be removed before 'War On Children' comes back online again.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely nothing needs to be removed, Tony
The things "needing to be removed" are probably the most valuable
Let's not this LIE. If you need to remove stuff to keep online, then let's try to keep the material online elsewhere

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's aboot the size of it.
Anyhow, please bookmark this page for if/when this site is offline
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Surely nothing needs to be removed, Tony
The things "needing to be removed" are probably the most valuable


The things "needing to be removed" are those people trying to hide their perversions behind the legalistic smokescreen that they control.

Has it ever been otherwise?

As with 9/11, the Dutroux affair will not go away until it and those who descend that path to hell are dealt with.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Powerul and rich individuals such as Bussen very rarely bother to issue legal threats against small publicatuions such as this forum if there is no substance to the allegations.

If anybody wants to contact me with an email address or postal address I'll send you all the material that's been removed.

I hope to have Caz's the War On Children forum back up and running this evening.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some external links to non-defamatory versions of the sort of information Schillings were threatening legal action over.



All potentially defamatory info on UK School privatisation groups 'EIM' and 'ARK' and the Swiss millionaire 'Arpad Busson' on this site has now been removed from the database.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpad_Busson

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/suppor t_services/article3952782.ece

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/bankin g_and_finance/article3111342.ece

https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/09/408127.html

http://www.whosdatedwho.com/celebrities/people/dating/arpad-busson.htm

http://wallstfolly.typepad.com/wallstfolly/2006/05/arpad_busson_el.htm l

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-163800100.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/jul/01/charitablegiving.voluntary sector

https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2008/12/415612.html

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent links, Tony. I would go so far as to say that this 911forum website is the resource for serious activists; the alternative split from the original nineleven.org I am not so sure about...

FYI, as for archiving vital information, the link below enables anyone to keep local, current copies of entire websites. HDD space is cheap these days, so genuinely valuable sites like this one need never disappear down the cyber-rabbit hole.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was we down yesterday to?? I couldn't get on for some reason!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not to my knowledge

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Was we down yesterday to?? I couldn't get on for some reason!!

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Strange I got cut off during posting. Hmm and all other web traffic was OK :0
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Wasn't there some Middle East outage?
Where in the world are you these days?

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Please bookmark this as a backup discussion room.
http://www.bilderberg.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=18

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Thermate911 wrote:
Excellent links, Tony. I would go so far as to say that this 911forum website is the resource for serious activists; the alternative split from the original nineleven.org I am not so sure about...

FYI, as for archiving vital information, the link below enables anyone to keep local, current copies of entire websites. HDD space is cheap these days, so genuinely valuable sites like this one need never disappear down the cyber-rabbit hole.

http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Network_and_Internet/Offline_Browse r_Tools/NearSite.html

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War On Children forum back up again
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewforum.php?f=35
War on Children section on again now with all Arpad, EIM, ARK, subprime posts removed.

PM me for the deleted material zipped on email

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The Schillings letter appeared on Wikileaks with some commentary so maybe some justice will eventually arrive.............

Sorry not clever enough to post a link but I am sure people will find it via 'Google'..............
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I wonder if Schillings will be sending a letter to the Guardian, claiming defamation and injury also ?

The Guardian wrote:
After amassing a personal fortune estimated at £100m by making hedge fund investments for his wealthy associates - including, at one point, members of the Bin Laden family - Mr Busson has decided it is time to give something back. He has established a charity called Absolute Return for Kids (Ark) whose mission is "to transform the lives of children who are victims of abuse, disability, illness and poverty".


The Guardian wrote:
Ark plans to sponsor a network of new academies across the country, starting with seven in London. These will be outside local authority control - much to the concern of some MPs and teaching unions. The government is to pay around £25m for the establishment of each school. For an outlay of £2m per academy, Ark will be able to appoint the governors, influence the curriculum, and determine the ethos of each. It will then be expected to run them.



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From playboy to playgrounds: the speculator turned philanthropist with big plans for pupils

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* guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 6 July 2005 01.08 BST
* Article history

To the gossip columnists, Arpad "Arki" Busson is the archetypal French playboy, a friend and confidant of the powerful, the glitzy and the enormously rich. To Elle Macpherson, the model who is the mother of his two children and who was, until a few days ago, his partner, he is a "serious, private" individual. To those who live outside the jet-set or work outside the secretive world of hedge funds, he is largely unknown.

Now another version of Mr Busson is about to emerge: that of a philanthropist, vowing to transform the education of thousands of children in the most deprived areas of Britain.

After amassing a personal fortune estimated at £100m by making hedge fund investments for his wealthy associates - including, at one point, members of the Bin Laden family - Mr Busson has decided it is time to give something back. He has established a charity called Absolute Return for Kids (Ark) whose mission is "to transform the lives of children who are victims of abuse, disability, illness and poverty".

Most of the charity's funds come from an annual fund-raising dinner which taps into the riches sloshing around the hedge fund industry, persuading fund managers to pledge outlandish sums for prizes such as a dance with Richard Gere or a tennis match with Tony Blair.

After funding aid projects for mothers with HIV in South Africa, orphans in Romania, and charities in Kosovo and the UK, Ark plans to sponsor a network of new academies across the country, starting with seven in London. These will be outside local authority control - much to the concern of some MPs and teaching unions. The government is to pay around £25m for the establishment of each school. For an outlay of £2m per academy, Ark will be able to appoint the governors, influence the curriculum, and determine the ethos of each. It will then be expected to run them.

It is unclear what experience Mr Busson will bring to the attempt to turn around failing, inner city schools, although the charity has recruited a director of education, Jay Altman, who was co-founder and principal of a school in New Orleans.

Equally difficult to fathom are the precise reasons why Mr Busson should be trying to revolutionise education. While his publicists insist the similarity between his nickname and the title of his charity is "an unfortunate coincidence", critics of academies are questioning how far he is driven by altruism - and to what extent he is spurred on by a desire for self-promotion.

While Mr Busson insists that he merely wishes to "give something back", the contrast between his world and that inhabited by the children whose education he aspires to transform could not be sharper.

Until they announced their separation a few days ago, he and Ms Macpherson shared a £10m house in west London and homes in the Bahamas and Gstaad. They flew in private jets, rented a castle in Yorkshire for the shooting season, and the elder of their two children attends a £9,600-a-year prep school. Despite the announcement, the couple were pictured together at the weekend, rubbing shoulders with celebrities in the VIP enclosure at Live 8.

The area around the Old Kent Road in south London, where Mr Busson's first academy is expected to be opened, has one of the highest long-term unemployment rates in the country, far more lone-parent households than the national average, and is one of the poorest areas in a borough where almost 60% of pupils failed to gain five A-C GCSEs grades last year.

The son of an English debutante and a French stockbroker, Mr Busson was educated at Institut Le Rosey, an exclusive Swiss school whose alumni include the Aga Khan and the last Shah of Iran. Then came national service, as a nurse in the French army. "He loved the discipline of the army," says one acquaintance in Paris. "It was the making of him."

On being demobbed, Mr Busson luxuriated in the Riviera life, enjoying a well-publicised relationship with the actor Farrah Fawcett and appearing regularly in the gossip columns. Then he started to make serious money the old-fashioned way: by speculating.

Mr Busson studied how to invest on behalf of others. He also drew on the example of his parents, whose social circle is said to have included princesses and maharajahs. "Arki's a chip off the old block," says the acquaintance. "His father always wanted to mix with the right people. His parents never had a great deal of steady cash, but were charming and well-mannered, and very well connected."

He moved into hedge funds, complex and largely unregulated off-shore investment vehicles which promise high returns. Being both opaque and highly predatory, these funds have no shortage of detractors - the president of the CBI recently criticised their lack of openness, while one German politician denounced them as the "locusts" of international capitalism.

Because few outside the industry understand exactly what they do, the funds and their managers are enshrouded in a certain mystique. It is precisely because they are so private, however, that they are favoured by the super-rich.

Mr Busson's EIM Group manages around £5.5bn, increasingly on behalf of institutional investors. In the beginning, his speciality was to run a "fund-of-funds" which helped his wealthy associates, many of them old school friends, invest in a number of hedge funds. Among his former clients were members of the Bin Laden family, although not Osama bin Laden, whom the family has disowned. Shortly after 9/11 the FBI asked EIM, along with other companies, to help it establish whether the financial backers of the attack had laundered money through hedge funds. There is no suggestion that the company or any of its clients have ever been involved in money laundering, however, and EIM was not the focus of the investigation.

Mr Busson's publicists concede that talk of "giving something back" is hackneyed, but insist that is what he wishes to do. Mr Busson describes Ark's aims as "measured philanthropy": he wants his charity to employ the rigours of the hedge fund industry to ensure its money brings maximum benefit to deprived children. The "absolute return" of Ark's name is a hedge fund term, describing a determination to improve results year-on-year.

There is clear demand for academies, and the funding they bring, among parents whose children's schools have been failing, and it is unlikely that many of those parents will care greatly who is funding the project. In Bermondsey, south London, for example, there were more than 800 applications for the 180 places at the City of London academy, sponsored by the Corporation of the City of London, when it opened last year.

Mr Busson's spokesman says: "The people at Ark are not so arrogant as to think they can turn around failing schools on their own. But they can hire the best people, and measure the output."

His six fellow trustees, mostly hedge fund veterans, include Jennifer Moses, the former Goldman Sachs banker who took some considerable time to spot that her secretary, Joyti De Laurey, had plundered more than £1m from her husband and herself.

Examination of Ark's accounts suggests that its funding is based upon the realisation that many in the industry have made so much money that they would not miss a few hundred thousand donated to charity. Almost all its money is raised at its annual dinner in London - £11m this year, and £10m in 2004. After mingling with the likes of Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles, Jemima Khan and Joanna Lumley, guests from the industry pledge astronomical sums for prizes - £160,000 for the tennis match with the PM, £120,000 for a training session with the footballers Frank Lampard and John Terry, £220,000 for a seat on Sir Richard Branson's proposed space flight.

This is a world, apparently, in which an individual's wealth is judged not by what they have, but what they can afford to be seen to be giving away.



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If the Guardian claim is correct then I guess the public interest angle is to pontificate about the wholesome, egalitarian dichotomy of having our kids educated on the back of profits, some of which were, according to the Guardian, allegedly made from managing investments on behalf of the family of the planet's most wanted terrorist . . .

Arki's ARK - "an unfortunate coincidence"

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The initial list is of threads in which some posts were removed. Threads not on the first list but on the second list were entirely deleted.


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Common Purpose
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=12256

BBC Teens Page
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=12273

Ed Balls: Police permanently in schools
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=12679

ARK and EIM - legal threat - thread hidden
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13854

The Findhorn Foundation
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=15585


list 2


http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=16208&highlight=
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=11703&highlight=eim
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=12137&highlight=acade my+schools+alert
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13092&highlight=arks+ deceit
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14932&highlight=eim+a rk
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13854&highlight=threa d+hidden
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=12256&highlight=benea th+underground+cells
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=12280&highlight=arpad +busson+chairman
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=15705&highlight=meddl e+human+soul
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=16152&highlight=unsav oury+associations
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=15424&highlight=lengt hier+summary
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14461&highlight=progr am+programme+supported+sachs
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=15585&highlight=findh orn+foundation
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=15409&highlight=ark+s chools
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13436&highlight=bulga rian+childrens
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13040&highlight=tradi ng+children
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13052&highlight=child ren+reengineered+schools
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=12679&highlight=polic e+permanently
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=12273&highlight=bbc+t eens
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=12267&highlight=bilde rberg+academy
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=12278&highlight=arpad +busson+bilderberger

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Romanian ‘orphans’, for whom ARK (Absolute Return for Kids) are now fundraising
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Removed material reloaded on The War on Children Forum, in August and October 2009.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solicitors letter from Schillings law firm denying ARK's links to Dutroux, which was uploaded on wikileaks, is strangely now inaccessable:

The following from the google search engine doesn't work and the link to the solicitors letter on cached also not working. HHmmmmm.

(googling 'schillings eim ark' brings this up second on the search engine).

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Schillings legal threat re Arpad Busson, EIM Group and ARK Schools ... - 2 visits - 15:02
16 Dec 2008 ... 16 page censorship demand to United Hosting, hosters of 911Forum.org.uk from UK libel lawyers Schillings on behalf of Arpad Busson, EIM ...
wikileaks.org/.../Schillings_legal_threat_re_Arpad_Busson,_EIM_Group_a nd _ARK_Schools_to_911forum.org.uk_hoster,_16_Dec_2008 - Cached


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

g00gle is itself a large part of the problem and I just cannot understand why bona-fide truth seekers still use it.

https://startpage.com/ returns the following on the first page:-


Schillings and Schadenfreude: Defamation Lawyers now have a Public ***
Schillings, a London Law firm, have closed down several prominent political blogs by contacting their webhosts, on behalf the new part owner of Arsenal – Alisher Usmanov.
www.mattwardman.com/ blog/ 2007/ 09/ 24/ schillings-and-schadenfreude-defamation-lawyers-now-have-a-public-rel ations-problem/ - Proxy - Highlight



Schillings, response to censored video **
Schillings, response to censored video
www.scribd.com/doc/32363201/Schillings-response-to-censored-video - Proxy - Highlight - 1 more top result from this site



Trafigura and Carter Ruck: How social media can guard against misuse of **
Carter-Ruck are not dissimilar to Schillings ... Ark Academies sponsor schools in the UK.
www.joannejacobs.net/?p=1244 - Proxy - Highlight - 1 more top result from this site



Academy Schools: possibly 1,567 more by September, ARK, FRS, involved **
... Schillings_legal_demands_to_EUTruth.Org_over_EIM_Chair_Arpad_Busson Second solicitors letter: http://wikileaks.org/ wiki/ Schillings_legal_threat_re_Arpad_Busson, _EIM_Group_and_ARK ...
www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2010/06/454599.html?c=on - Proxy - Highlight - 1 more top result from this site



UK Indymedia | Ark Academies, Ron Beller and Subprime Mortgages **
ARK, Ron Beller, and subprime mortgages Schillings law firm state that: 'The EIM Group has absolutely nothing to do with subprime mortgages and never has done.
https://www.indymedia.org.uk/ en/ regions/ southcoast/ 2009/ 06/ 433386.html - Proxy - Highlight



Talk:Schillings legal demands to EUTruth.Org over EIM Chair Arpad **
More on ARK's insidious associations; their connections with the 'orphans' in eastern Europe, psychosynthesis, euthenics, 'sustainability replication programmes', the military ...
www.wikileaks.com/ wiki/ Talk:Schillings_legal_demands_to_EUTruth.Org_over_EIM_Chair_Arpad_Bus son - Proxy - Highlight



EU Truth website **
http://wikileaks.org/leak/schillings-eim-eutruth.pdf Looks like somebody got themselves into ... Rather, Arpad Busson chairman of ARK (Absolute Return for Kids), sponsoring schools ...
www.democracyforum.co.uk/anti-eu-groups/50333-eu-truth-website-3.html - Proxy - Highlight



Freedom Of The Press? UK's The Guardian Barred From Reporting On Parliament **
Carter-Ruck are not dissimilar to Schillings; In fact, at least three lawyers at Carter-Ruck have come from Schillings, Hanna Basha, Felicity Robinson and Michelle Riondel.
www.techdirt.com/articles/20091012/2150126495.shtml - Proxy - Highlight



Trafigura: A Carter-Ruck *-Up | The Lay Scientist **
Carter-Ruck are not dissimilar to Schillings In fact, at least three lawyers at Carter-Ruck have come from Schillings, Hanna Basha, Felicity Robinson and Michelle Riondel.
www.layscience.net/node/687 - Proxy - Highlight



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wikileaks.org is one of the top 10,000 sites in the world and is in the Multi-issue Publications category.
www.alexa.com/ siteinfo/ wikileaks.org/ wiki/ Talk:Schillings_legal_threat_re_Arpad_Busson, _EIM_Group_and_ARK_Schools_to_911forum.org.uk_hoster, _16_Dec_2008 - b

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:32 pm    Post subject: Wikileaks prohibited access to documents Reply with quote

Thanks for that Thermate911.

Seems it is Wikileaks website itself which has blocked access to this material.

(Which says quite a lot about the current state of Wikileaks).

Once Wikileaks came back online after its many months of absence (at which point the documents were still available on Wikileaks) I copied the Wikileaks material elsewhere.

The following was the error message (although I notice it has now changed)

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This error (HTTP 404 Not Found) means that Internet Explorer was able to connect to the website, but the page you wanted was not found. It's possible that the webpage is temporarily unavailable. Alternatively, the website might have changed or removed the webpage.


The following made inaccessible by Wikileaks:

Video originally censored by Youtube:


Link


Comments re censored video:

http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Talk:EIMConsult_censored_video

First solicitors letter:
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Schillings_legal_demands_to_EUTruth.Org_over _EIM_Chair_Arpad_Busson

Second solicitors letter:
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Schillings_legal_threat_re_Arpad_Busson,_EIM _Group_and_ARK_Schools_to_911forum.org.uk_hoster,_16_Dec_2008

Response to second solicitors letter here:
http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Talk:Schillings_legal_threat_re_Arpad_Busson  ,_EIM_Group_and_ARK_Schools_to_911forum.org.uk_hoster,_16_Dec_2008

However, the documents are available at the following locations:

Comments about censored video:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/32363201/Schillings-response-to-censored-vid eo

Schillings solicitors letter dated 4th March 2008:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/32363018/Schillings-Letter-4th-March-2008

Schillings solicitors letter dated 16th December 2008:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/32363022/Schillings-Letter-16th-December-200 8

Response to letter of 4th March 2008:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/32363017/Schillings-response-to-first-letter -dated-4th-March-2008

Response to Schillings legal threat re Arpad Busson, EIM Group and ARK Schools to 911forum.org.uk hoster, 16th December 2008.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/32199486/Schillings-response-to-second-lette r-of-16th-December-2008

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Screen shot of Wikileaks censoring this material:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/44777005/ARK-Wikileaks-censorship-of-Schilli ngs-solicitors-letter-re-ARK-Absolute-Return-for-Kids
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:57 am    Post subject: Wikileaks and Dutroux Reply with quote

What this means is that Wikileaks is protecting those behind the Dutroux scandal.

And presumably Wikileaks is therefore now controlled by those behind the Dutroux scandal, because I don't know who else would want to cover up such a horrific story of the abuse of children.

And who are the ones who have ensured that Mengele's lab notes from WW2 remain classified?

The article "Me and Mengele' by Dianne Irving:

http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/irv/irv_136meandmengele.html

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One of those items they brought me in a wicker basket one day was the actual lab book that belonged to Dr. Mengele, along with piles of random photographs taken in his lab of his "patients" during his experiments. [[For some odd reason it is claimed today that no such lab book exists; but it did, as I held it in my hands several times]]. One set of twin experiments attracted my attention - those performed on about three-year old blonde hair, blue eyed Eastern European Gypsy twins. One twin would be held as the "control" of the experiment; the other twin was subjected to serial experiments, designed to mimic wounds of Nazi soldiers in the battle fields.
The twins were kept in cages right in Mengele's laboratory, just off his office. The cages measured 1  by 1  by 1  meters. During the mornings Mengele would come into the lab to visit with his "girls"; such times he was always dressed impeccably in his suit. He would take the girls out of their cages and bounce them on his knees, asking them to call him "Papa". But in the afternoons he would come back to the lab wearing his starched white lab coat, and the girls knew then that it was time for more experimenting. He would take one of the twins into a small narrow closet-like space, where he would take a knife and remove more and more of her femur bone in one leg - and then observe. No anesthetic, no pain killers, no antibiotics, no ice, no bandages, no nothing - thus resembling the conditions of the battle field. After he finished cutting the twin's leg bone, he would simply carry her over to a "stretcher" and let her remain there until she was ready to be placed back into her cage with her sister. The photos of the tiny suffering little girl in that dense and dark "recovery" room, so butchered, and bloody and pathetic, would be etched into my memory for a long long time - a memory that I would carry with me into the rest of my work to come.


John Pilger (writes for the New Statesman, a John Adam St Gang institution) promotes Julian Assange of Wikileaks:

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=20231

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deleted documents exposing those behind ARK and the Dutroux scandal have now reappeared on Wikileaks website, at new locations.

Censored Video: http://www.wikileaks.ch/wiki/EIMConsult_censored_video

Discuss of censored video: http://www.wikileaks.ch/wiki/Talk:EIMConsult_censored_video

First solicitors letter:
http://www.wikileaks.ch/wiki/Schillings_legal_demands_to_EUTruth.Org_o ver_EIM_Chair_Arpad_Busson

Discuss of first solicitors letter:
http://www.wikileaks.ch/wiki/Talk:Schillings_legal_demands_to_EUTruth. Org_over_EIM_Chair_Arpad_Busson

Second solicitors letter:
http://www.wikileaks.ch/wiki/Schillings_legal_threat_re_Arpad_Busson,_ EIM_Group_and_ARK_Schools_to_911forum.org.uk_hoster,_16_Dec_2008

Response to second solicitors letter here:
http://www.wikileaks.ch/wiki/Talk:Schillings_legal_threat_re_Arpad_Bus son,_EIM_Group_and_ARK_Schools_to_911forum.org.uk_hoster,_16_Dec_2008

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since Wikileaks claim their remit is to provide maximum exposure of corruption, why have they changed the urls of documents which they placed on their website?

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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usual problem, wikileaks having a real problem in exposing this story.

All the links to the wikileaks material on this - solicitors letters, video and related talk pages, all broken. (Says it all about where wikileaks stands on this issue).

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We are sorry but we cannot answer your request at the moment.

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However, still available on the 'cazzac111' scribd account.
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting that someone has renamed this thread in the last few days as: 'United Hostings diabolical customer service' - forum outage.

Ironic really that someone has used the word 'diabolical', conisdering that The Diabolist Club has been housed within the John Adam St Gang.

http://www.cse.dmu.ac.uk/~mward/gkc/books/diabolist.html
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I heard the Diabolist say, "I tell you I have done everything else. If I do that I shan't know the difference between right and wrong..'


Which is the same as the line in the Lily Allen video 'The Fear' (I don't know what's right and wrong anymore).
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The students in academy schools certainly won't, they are trained to follow instructions without questioning.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/8497435/Inner-city-academy-thats- a-blueprint-for-the-future.html
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I listen to a group of 13-14-year-olds discussing school rules over lunch. Everyone has a reading book on the table. No one moves towards the pasta and meatballs until a teacher gives the signal, and even then there's an atmosphere of quiet restraint. 'If we didn't have the strict rules we have, I dread what it would be like here,' Xanthe Greenwood, 13, says. I ask if they all feel like that. They nod furiously. 'Children are less likely to misbehave because they know there are consequences,'


Levels of punishment at one ark school:
1) Stand in cubicle in corridor (don't know whether this is enclosed or not)
2) Confess to the whole class
3) Confess to the whole school
4) There is a fourth level but no-one is sure what this is at the moment.

And this is what they learn:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/56066609/013-Quintin-Kynaston-Opening-Minds- Science-QK-UK-The-World

Note the section about measuring babies heads, straight out of the Nazi eugenics programme.

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