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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:34 am    Post subject: Nasty feeling about this site Reply with quote

ive got a nasty feeling about this site.

every time i post something that is proven and challenges the U.S governments bs version(fabel)of 9/11,

i get an e-mail from the mods, criticising my subject title,spelling mistakes,and anything else they find to criticise,except for the story.

this is my last contribution on this site.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i get an e-mail from the mods, criticising my subject title,spelling mistakes,and anything else they find to criticise,except for the story.


Huh? Who's doing this and where? Can you point to some examples of what you say?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Binned. By me

And Keith is just p*ssed becuase he failed to motivate the membership to support his call for NPT and BW to be plastered all over the site

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that, John. Sorry what are NPT and BW?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no plane theories and beam (direct energy) weapons theories
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks Ian. I get the picture now. No place for these here.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: 9/11, the bigger picture and the quest for truth Reply with quote

I get it - the White wizard and his friends will tell us what there is to see i.e. what they've seen with their blinkers on, so they'll deny there can be any other reality.

This is just like the dogmatic materialists (Dawkins & Co., for example) who are so sure they're right because they believe that what they don't see (with their blinkers on) can't possibly exist.

But as Mark Twain wisely observed: "You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus".

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's very wise comment Truthmonger who I'm inclined to believe I know from somewhere
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My apologies to Keithm. Clearly I didn't have the entire picture. I know very little about the NPT and BW theories and less about Judy Wood but I am concerned that people like Keithm are not being allowed the space to discuss these theories.

It does seem very odd that no sign of the wreckage was found outside the twin towers that just swallowed-up two planes entirely. And, of course, no black boxes. Why was the wreckage from the towers whisked away so quickly with no investigation of it? Again, maybe because there was no wreckage at all!

This Forum I'm told is not part of the 911 Campaign but a forum for discussion. If that is so then why is Keithm being blocked? Why shouldn't he be free to discuss his views on this? I cannot see how discussion can lead to the discrediting of a Forum whose purpose is for just that. Indeed, it's the censoring of contributions is what really discredits it!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My apologies to Keithm. Clearly I didn't have the entire picture. I know very little about the NPT and BW theories and less about Judy Wood but I am concerned that people like Keithm are not being allowed the space to discuss these theories.

It does seem very odd that no sign of the wreckage was found outside the twin towers that just swallowed-up two planes entirely. And, of course, no black boxes. Why was the wreckage from the towers whisked away so quickly with no investigation of it? Again, maybe because there was no wreckage at all!

This Forum I'm told is not part of the 911 Campaign but a forum for discussion. If that is so then why is Keithm being blocked? Why shouldn't he be free to discuss his views on this? I cannot see how discussion can lead to the discrediting of a Forum whose purpose is for just that. Indeed, it's the censoring of contributions is what really discredits it!


Well done, great post Rory.Keep asking those tough questions

Your last paragraph merits a response from those responsible imo.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your last paragraph merits a response from those responsible imo.


Thanks, Pikey. Good to be on the same side as you on this, bro. It's all very, very disturbing. I for one would like to read Keithm's views, never mind the spelling! Reminds me of the Inquisition.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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don't get censored they're moved to controveies

btw - if keithm had any real complaints he could have PM'ed us or posted here
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to remember certain significant things happening to this site: Andrew Johnson complained that his theories about no planes and directed energy weapons were consigned to the controversies section so that posts about them were not visible on the front page. Andrew got pissed off with this policy and set up his own website to discuss such issues. Meanwhile Ian Neal announced that he had altered the settings on this forum so that posts in the controversies section would be visible on the front page. If such posts are now not visible there, either someone else has reset it or Ian Neal did not succeed in setting it as he announced.

The name of the website was changed to "9/11 the Bigger Picture and the Quest for Truth" to signal that it was not the official website of the British 9/11 Truth Campaign, but a free space for discussion. The official website of the campaign is here: http://www.911truthcampaign.net/ However, if such issues as NPT and DEW are being consigned to a section which makes them invisible on the front page, that suggests a difference of opinion between the site administrator, Tony, on the one hand and Ian Neal, who has the means to alter the settings, on the other.

There does appear to be a difference of opinion between on the one hand some of the site users, backed I think by the campaign committee, that this forum should be a free-for-all discussion area about issues connected with the War on Terror (bar offensive and abusive posts defined by the site's guidelines) (while the Campaign's website should concentrate on marketing and agreed campaign policy to the public) and on the other hand the site administrator, Tony, who appears to want to have conspicuously discussed only those theories about 9/11 that he agrees with.

I understand the campaign committee will soon be deciding who should be given responsibility for the administration of this site in future after which the campaign will have no further jurisdiction over the site.

The administrator appears to think that his personal religious beliefs should override the site's expressed guidelines against offensive posts, in that he has himself on several occasions made homophobic posts. When I have tried to discuss the issue with him, he has replied that homosexuality is wrong because it was preached against by Jesus and his closest disciples. When I pointed out that none of the New Testament writers even mention homosexuality, except for St Paul who was not a close disciple of Jesus since they never met, he quoted St Paul at me. When I asked him whether, since Tony accepts St Paul's condemnation of homosexuality, he also accepts Paul's support for the institution of slavery and his teaching about the inferior status of women, he replied that he would not question the "Sacred Word of my Heavanly Father" and so it was impossible to discuss the issue further with him. Doubtless the campaign committee will be considering the issue of whether the site administrator's personal views should override the site's guidelines on discrimination against certain groups of people, which I quote below and which may be read here: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=1685



"Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:34 am Post subject: Further guidance on faith/race issues

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Having discussed this with several key campaigners and moderators, I have been asked to propose some fuller guidance from the 'moderators' on what 'we' consider to be offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence.

In a nutshell, this guidance is that

posts which refer to jews (people of the judiac faith) in any way that is less favourable than non jews (and visa versa) will be considered offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence and will be deleted.

In the same way that to refer to muslims in any way that is less favourable than non muslims (and visa versa) will be considered offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence and will be deleted.

In the same way that to refer to Christians in any way that is less favourable than non Christians (and visa versa) will be considered offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence and will be deleted.

In the same way that to refer to a Tutsi in any way that is less favourable than a Hutu (and visa versa) will be considered offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence and will be deleted.

In the same way that to refer to 'black' people in any way that is less favourable than 'white' people(and visa versa) will be considered offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence and will be deleted.

In the same way that to refer to gay people in any way that is less favourable than straight people (and visa versa) will be considered offensive and liable to promote hatred and violence and will be deleted.

Etc. You get the idea.

On the other hand you can be as rude as you like about fascists, war criminals and those who knowingly conspire with them.

All moderation decisions are subject to appeal."
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keiths thread gets the dustbin gatekeeper treatment

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Gents (time we had some female energy presence on the mod team!) this is just not cricket and the shills,trolls and critics get better treatment!

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Dont you mean "controversies" Tony Laughing

Glad to see your just human like the rest of us Wink

As its Simon A who owns the domain name of this site could Simon or someone please explain why he is pulling the plug on this site in June?

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The settings must be switched-on because these posts which are in the Controversies folder are showing up on the Latest News panel.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As its Simon A who owns the domain name of this site could Simon or someone please explain why he is pulling the plug on this site in June?
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It is Simon's website. He started it registered it and is legally reponsible for it. He kindly lent it to the 9/11 truth movement, but is not happy about some aspects of the way it is run, nor about the fact that it is now old technology and liable to be hacked. He is prepared, however, to lend it to us for a further three months while we decide on what to do with it: scrap it, move it, revamp it, but he is not prepared to be legally responsible for it after June. I don't think that's unreasonable since he hasn't been involved in the 9/11 truth movement since he fell out with Jimmy Walter in mid 2005.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh no its not Rory.............its in the dustbin section which I would have expected to be switched off concerning showing up on the first page.

So have your say if you wish while you can now youve blown the whistle Laughing

NPT and DEW deserves to be taken seriously imo. Do your own research though and make your own decision Rory. Andrew's websites are on my profile links below.

Controlled demolition for WTC7 yes imo. but the two towers were something more than CD, just check out the evidence Dr Judy Wood presents, its compelling stuff and scientifically sound.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which Keith is that? There are several.

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Gents (time we had some female energy presence on the mod team!) this is just not cricket and the shills,trolls and critics get better treatment!


I believe Fran/Frazzel is prepared to give it some female energy as part of a moderation team.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 9/11, the bigger picture and the quest for truth Reply with quote

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I get it - the White wizard and his friends will tell us what there is to see i.e. what they've seen with their blinkers on, so they'll deny there can be any other reality.

This is just like the dogmatic materialists (Dawkins & Co., for example) who are so sure they're right because they believe that what they don't see (with their blinkers on) can't possibly exist.

But as Mark Twain wisely observed: "You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus".


Yup - there's a few threads that keep bringing this up it seems.

I find it hilarious that mods use language like "plaster it all over this forum" or whatever when those with an interest in discussing directed energy systems and TV fakery [don't use John White's bad attempt at launching the Jonesian "Beam Weapon" term - it's been owned and is pointless!] when the people with such views are apparently few and far between.

Given there is a 90%/10% balance between thermate only people and advanced tech/fakery people it sure creates a lot of anger Smile

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Oooh, I'm writing in the DUSTBIN.

Stinks in here. Rotten banana skins I reckon.

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Woops, funny what asking a straight question can lead to. Didn't realise it'd raise a hornet's nest Rolling Eyes

Yes, thanks mate, I most certainly will research it now!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Keith who started this thread Noel. Keith M of Bournemouth not to be confused with Keith Motherson of bonnie Scotland.Confused
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It is Simon's website. He started it registered it and is legally reponsible for it. He kindly lent it to the 9/11 truth movement, but is not happy about some aspects of the way it is run, nor about the fact that it is now old technology and liable to be hacked. He is prepared, however, to lend it to us for a further three months while we decide on what to do with it: scrap it, move it, revamp it, but he is not prepared to be legally responsible for it after June. I don't think that's unreasonable since he hasn't been involved in the 9/11 truth movement since he fell out with Jimmy Walter in mid 2005.


Thanx for the explanation Noel could you or even better Simon elaborate on
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I seem to recollect at the first AGM in Blackpool in 2006 that this issue was going to be resolved but cannot locate the minutes of that meeting.
Could they be put in the Private forum section here.

I made my own personal views clear at this meeting that there should only be one official website, that its domain name should be owned by the campaign and that within the site it should have a portal to a professionally moderated interactive forum. I opposed the decision taken before the meeting to set up a new site and make this the official site and continue www.nineeleven.co.uk as an unofficial open interactive 911 forum site on the grounds that I felt it would create confusion and that it put the campaign at risk of losing its focus on its aims and objectives.
Also within the site there would be portals to access the regional/local 911 truth group sites (i.e not have mutually exclusive local 911 truth group websites)

I hope that we can learn from our past errors of judgement and get a successful solution to getting the campaign back on track. 911 is after all the key to waking up the public and there is alot more waking up to be done before we can persuade others to look deeper into the rabbit hole!

We need to be facilitating another website 911 and the quest for the truth etc and CREATE a solution so that there is another system choice for the people which recognises oneness and escape the matrix.

How about a "New Horizons" website extracting all the non 911 stuff on www.nineelevenn.co.uk and putting it there with its own forum and also having portals for the New Horizons group, like the ones already in St Annes and Preston. This would then enable us to continue the educational process of going beyond 911 and facilitate meetings with expert speakers presenatatiions like Ian Crane eg Fool me once

What we urgently need is an organisational structure which doesnt bombard newcomers with information. I agree with Stefans and others comments about not referring a newcomer to 911 truth to this site.

Out of interest who owns the domain name for the official site?

And finally, it seems along time ago but do you remember that day we campaigned in Bliars Sedgefield constituency before the 2005 general election. There were disagreements then, travelling in convoy the London and Cumbria team, Simon driving in his car in front with the London team and we (The Cumbria group) following in the car behind. All we could see at one stage was shouting and expressions of anger. Laurie and Paul exclaim "bloody hell we are supoosed be taking on the Pentagon and we cant navigate our way to our targetted destination" Laughing Laughing

It was an absolute brilliant day though, rounded off by a good meal and fellowship; a day I shall never forget.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is Simon's website. He started it registered it and is legally reponsible for it. He kindly lent it to the 9/11 truth movement, but is not happy about some aspects of the way it is run, nor about the fact that it is now old technology and liable to be hacked. He is prepared, however, to lend it to us for a further three months while we decide on what to do with it: scrap it, move it, revamp it, but he is not prepared to be legally responsible for it after June. I don't think that's unreasonable since he hasn't been involved in the 9/11 truth movement since he fell out with Jimmy Walter in mid 2005.


Thanx for the explanation Noel could you or even better Simon elaborate on
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I'm only reporting on what I recall Simon saying at a meeting in London two weeks ago when we discussed the future of nineeleven.co.uk so I'm afraid I can't elaborate further on what Simon thinks. He seems disinclined to post on this forum these days.

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I seem to recollect at the first AGM in Blackpool in 2006 that this issue was going to be resolved but cannot locate the minutes of that meeting.
Could they be put in the Private forum section here.


No one is using the private forum currently. There have been technical problems in logging on. However, I have just checked it and find on it lively posting of porn and gambling ads. This suggests that no one is moderating the forum and that somehow the privacy security on it has been breached. People should not be able to post on that forum unless they have been recommended by two existing members of it. I think Mick Meaney has the means to moderate it. I'll get in touch with him.

I don't know where the minutes of that meeting in Blackpool are. Annie may be able to find them for you.

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I made my own personal views clear at this meeting that there should only be one official website, that its domain name should be owned by the campaign and that within the site it should have a portal to a professionally moderated interactive forum. I opposed the decision taken before the meeting to set up a new site and make this the official site and continue www.nineeleven.co.uk as an unofficial open interactive 911 forum site on the grounds that I felt it would create confusion and that it put the campaign at risk of losing its focus on its aims and objectives.


I don't think I follow you there, Pikey.


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Also within the site there would be portals to access the regional/local 911 truth group sites (i.e not have mutually exclusive local 911 truth group websites)

I hope that we can learn from our past errors of judgement and get a successful solution to getting the campaign back on track. 911 is after all the key to waking up the public and there is alot more waking up to be done before we can persuade others to look deeper into the rabbit hole!

We need to be facilitating another website 911 and the quest for the truth etc and CREATE a solution so that there is another system choice for the people which recognises oneness and escape the matrix.

How about a "New Horizons" website extracting all the non 911 stuff on www.nineelevenn.co.uk and putting it there with its own forum and also having portals for the New Horizons group, like the ones already in St Annes and Preston. This would then enable us to continue the educational process of going beyond 911 and facilitate meetings with expert speakers presenatatiions like Ian Crane eg Fool me once.

What we urgently need is an organisational structure which doesnt bombard newcomers with information. I agree with Stefans and others comments about not referring a newcomer to 911 truth to this site.


I certainly agree with you that we need to sort out the whole website situation and urgently. There are however differences of opinions among activists as to how that should be done. Unfortunately, therefore, some people are bound to be disappointed with the changes.

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Out of interest who owns the domain name for the official site?


I think it is probably Adrian Connock in Bristol, who created the website in the first place.

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And finally, it seems a long time ago but do you remember that day we campaigned in Bliars Sedgefield constituency before the 2005 general election. There were disagreements then, travelling in convoy the London and Cumbria team, Simon driving in his car in front with the London team and we (The Cumbria group) following in the car behind. All we could see at one stage was shouting and expressions of anger. Laurie and Paul exclaim "bloody hell we are supoosed be taking on the Pentagon and we cant navigate our way to our targetted destination" Laughing Laughing


I remember the day well, but I don't remember any shouting in Simon's car.

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It was an absolute brilliant day though, rounded off by a good meal and fellowship; a day I shall never forget.


Agreed! It was the first occasion on which I felt we now had created a national movement, with activists from the North-west and the South-East co-operating. I think we made a lot of mistakes in Sedgefield, but it was the beginning of a learning process in how to campaign on the 9/11 issue.

My own view is that we need an official campaign site with an attached private discussion area (free from porn, gambling and * ads) which makes the official minimal campaign policy clear. It also needs continual updating with Items of relevant news and to have on it a calendar where the campaign can announce its events to the public. Currently the fact that that tends to be done on nineeleven.co.uk gives the false impression that it is an official campaign website.

We need also to continue nineeleven.co.uk in some form, but it should be very clear that it is not a 9/11 truth campaign website but it may be used for free discussion of anything related to 9/11, the War on Terror and its consequences. I disagree with the view, held by some, that it should be moderated to exclude issues which are controversial among campaigners, such as no planes theory, directed energy weapons, video fakery and David Icke's theories. Some people get very upset by the fact that discussion of these issues gets censored or relegated to inconspicuous areas on nineeleven.co.uk. If we have an effective official website, there should be no need for heavy moderation to sell the campaign's message on nineeleven.co.uk.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May I ask who it is at present who is responsible for changing the content in areas like Latest News? Is it Tony Gosling or him & others as well? And why is this in the Dustbin?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rory,

You really must take the trouble to read the posts before griping. The answer to your question is in the third post from the top.

Remember this is a public space and you are sowing fictional dissent by attacking the site that allows you free rein where many others would not.

You're becoming quite a serious problem and seem very much out of kilter with most of the freedm fighters here. So would you please take a deep breath and consider carefully what you are doing here.

We don't allow posts attacking this site or us moderators (even though we usually turn a blind eye) for reasons which should be obvious. If you want to do that come along to a meeting so we can sort out our differences without washing dirty linen in public.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rory,

You really must take the trouble to read the posts before griping. The answer to your question is in the third post from the top.

Remember this is a public space and you are sowing fictional dissent by attacking the site that allows you free rein where many others would not.

You're becoming quite a serious problem and seem very much out of kilter with most of the freedm fighters here. So would you please take a deep breath and consider carefully what you are doing here.

We don't allow posts attacking this site or us moderators (even though we usually turn a blind eye) for reasons which should be obvious. If you want to do that come along to a meeting so we can sort out our differences without washing dirty linen in public.


I hadn't realised until now, Tony, that you regard as a problem anyone who expresses a minority point of view, or that the policy is that the moderators are beyond criticism. Thank you for clarifying that. At least we all now know where we stand.
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Remember this is a public space and you are sowing fictional dissent by attacking the site that allows you free rein where many others would not.

You're becoming quite a serious problem and seem very much out of kilter with most of the freedm fighters here. So would you please take a deep breath and consider carefully what you are doing here.


I am frankly appalled to hear you making what are quite obviously threats in response to a simple question. The fact that you have chosen to relegate this thread to the Dustbin shows just how contemptuously you are treating not only me but others on this Forum.

Is this what Utopiated means when he says he's getting the stench of rotten banana skins hereabouts?

"Very much out of kilter" with the "freedom fighters here"? Just who do you mean, Tony, and what makes you think that I am not interested in matters of freedom? "Quite a serious problem"? In what way and to whom, apart maybe to yourself?

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We don't allow posts attacking this site or us moderators (even though we usually turn a blind eye) for reasons which should be obvious.


Who do you think is attacking you? This is paranoia and it sounds to me as if you're using the royal 'we' here. Anyway, what permits you to be above criticism?

Until I am informed otherwise I shall accept at face value that this Forum is a place for free discussion of matters about 911 and the "War on Terror". I am not impressed by your attempts to threaten and humiliate. However I take note of what you are doing here and will act appropriately.

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I get the picture now. No place for these here.


My apologies to Keithm. Clearly I didn't have the entire picture. I know very little about the NPT and BW theories and less about Judy Wood but I am concerned that people like Keithm are not being allowed the space to discuss these theories.

It does seem very odd that no sign of the wreckage was found outside the twin towers that just swallowed-up two planes entirely. And, of course, no black boxes. Why was the wreckage from the towers whisked away so quickly with no investigation of it? Again, maybe because there was no wreckage at all!

This Forum I'm told is not part of the 911 Campaign but a forum for discussion. If that is so then why is Keithm being blocked? Why shouldn't he be free to discuss his views on this? I cannot see how discussion can lead to the discrediting of a Forum whose purpose is for just that. Indeed, it's the censoring of contributions is what really discredits it!


This I think is the nub of the problem. There appears to be a difference of opinion between on the one hand Tony who would like to keep what he regards as controversial theories off this forum, so that the 9/11 Truth Campaign is not seen to be supporting such theories, and on the other hand the 9/11 Truth Campaign committee who are going to decide who shall administer this site in future. They had earlier taken a decision that this website should no longer be the campaign's website, and its remit should be broadened to discuss the wider picture of the quest for truth about many things affected by the War on Terror. My impression is that most of them are happy with the decision to autonomise this forum.

But I do think that floating this forum off to be completely independent from the Campaign, means that the Campaign's site http://www.911truthcampaign.net/ needs to be revamped as an interesting site explaining the campaign's policy and advertising its events. The logic of this seperation appears to me to demand that this forum be the place for discussing the broader picture, including the more controversial theories, such as directed energy weapons, video fakery, no planes theory and David Icke's theories; though such contoversies should not appear on the campaign's site - but that is just my opinion on the best strategy for marketing our message.
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You may be right in all this, Xmasdale. But that's no excuse for Tony to treat others in the way he does with threats which are calculated to intimidate and humiliate. This sort of abuse from an Administrator is really beyond the pale of acceptability.
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This I think is the nub of the problem. There appears to be a difference of opinion between on the one hand Tony who would like to keep what he regards as controversial theories off this forum........


Rubbish Noel, and what's more you know I like controversy. What I particularly don't like is

1. When discussions are killed off by people wading in to rudely undermine any fruitful/lively discussion about truth and our freedoms

2. People who don't read the thread or flippantly ignore points made by people they are disagreeing with and

3. People who ignore the rules and feel they have a right to attack the moderators on the public forum


What is your objective in peddling blatant nonsense?

Again?

You are consistantly ignoring the rules here.

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