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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just check who controls the MSM. Theres your answer

Theır puppet agents?

Sarkhozy Merkel Brown

Brown sold UK gold cheap to Rothschıld

now...

http://www.redress.cc/global/redress20070728

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sarkhozy has just announced a ban on strikes.

His new law states that all workers who strike must still provide a minimum standard of service while they are striking and must apply INDIVIDUALLY to strike.

China has the same no strike laws too i believe

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: What Are We Doing? Britain Is Being Taken Over !! Reply with quote

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What are we doing to stop our beloved Britain being taken over?
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This is too frightening and too important to ignore any longer.


If we don't want to become a neglected outstation of the European Superstate, stripped of our nationhood, powerless to decide who lives here, controlled by laws we don't make and can't change, ruled by a government we cannot throw out, we have rather a short time in which to do something about it.

You may think none of this matters to you, but the trouble is that it does, whether you think so or not.

The European Union is interested in you, your liberty and your money, even if you don't care about it.

Its decisions affect your life, even if you don't realise they do.

When I point out that local councils are changing rubbish collections because of EU laws, people don't believe me.

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Ex-Europhile: Margaret Thatcher wears jumper adorned with EU member states

They rightly think it ridiculous that such things should be affected by what is supposed to be a Free Trade partnership. But they are.

A huge number of our laws have been drawn up in Brussels and hurried through Parliament without anybody really understanding what they were doing.

A lot of us still don't even grasp why it is that we can no longer have nice blue British passports.

They also don't grasp why they have to queue for ages to get back into the country after a holiday.

They aren't paying attention. That passport you have isn't British. It's European. It gives you no more right to enter this country than if you were a Lithuanian.

The border you are crossing is the border of the EU, not Britain. If the Government set up a special channel for UK passport holders it would be breaking EU law. There is no longer any such thing as a British passport.

This has another grim meaning. We cannot control two-thirds of the immigration now revolutionising this country because it comes from EU states.

British people have a way of ignoring the Continent then finding out just in time that what happens there matters – Dunkirk being the most recent example of this complacent folly. We probably won't get another Dunkirk to warn us.

By the time it is clear to everyone what has happened, it will be far too late.

Look at the row we are having, a rather lukewarm row in my view, about the European Constitution, dressed up as the Treaty of Lisbon but still what it always was – the official foundation document of the European Superstate.

At first it looks as if there are two sides, those for a referendum, and those against.

But what use would a referendum be? Who seriously believes that, if Britain said "No", the EU would say: "Oh, sorry to have troubled you with our silly, over-ambitious idea. We'll give it up for good."?

No, they would threaten and suborn the British Government into holding the vote again.

Or they would have yet another summit in which the thing would be adjusted a tiny bit and presented as if it were new. Or they would say: "Very well then, if you don't like it, why not leave?"

Gordon Brown might hold a referendum on that very subject. At this point we would badly need a major political figure to stand up and say: "Yes, please, let's leave."

He could add: "After all, if Norway and Switzerland can cope outside, we certainly can. And I defy anyone to tell me one single way in which this country has benefited from its long entanglement with this horrible organisation."

But this will not happen. Our entire political elite, in all parties, love the EU, not because it is good for the country, but because it is good for them.

They love its regular service of gravy trains, carrying failed Ministers off to a life of high salaries, big expenses and huge pensions, plus an almost total absence of responsibility.

They don't mind at all that it deprives them of the power to do very much. They are, for the most part, short of ideas and lazy, and happy to be able to pass the buck to Brussels while enjoying their pay and perks. Note, specially, the behaviour of the Tory Party. People sometimes ask why I call them 'useless'. Well, here's an example. You get a lot of something called 'Euroscepticism' from Tories. It's a stupid word and it describes a worthless thing.

They act as if they are against the EU grabbing our power and money, and talk sternly about how they disapprove.

But David Cameron, William Hague and Malcolm Rifkind are clear that, if the Lisbon Treaty is ratified, that will be that. In the (highly unlikely) event of them coming to power, they won't hold a referendum because, oh dear, it will be too late.

In doing this, they are part of a great tradition. Harold Macmillan first sought British entry to the Common Market in 1962. Then Ted Heath succeeded in getting it, ramming our membership through Parliament with characteristic ruthlessness and sacrificing Britain's fisheries industry for his ambition.

When, in 1975, Harold Wilson held a referendum on staying in, Margaret Thatcher campaigned vigorously for Britain to remain in the Market, sporting a jumper bearing the flags of member states.

When she came to office, she pushed through the Single European Act, a huge surrender of British vetoes. Then she was bludgeoned by Cabinet colleagues into entering the Exchange Rate Mechanism.

By the end of her premiership, she had begun to realise what was at stake. But it was precisely because of this that the Tory Party then threw her out of office.

John Major went on to browbeat and bully his MPs into voting for the Maastricht Treaty, yet another huge surrender of independence.

Mr Cameron represents a firm return to the Europhile days before Lady Thatcher's rebellion.

When it comes to action, the Tory Party will continue to support the EU because they have been committed to it since the Sixties, and cannot admit that this was a mistake.

But they also recognise how unpopular it is, which is why they pretend to be hostile and invented 'Euroscepticism' to console disgruntled voters.

The longer this goes on, the harder it will be to unscramble. My advice is not to be diverted by campaigns for a referendum that will get us nowhere.

It is to consider, very carefully, whether you will be able to look your children and grandchildren in the face when, 20 years hence, they ask: "What did you do to stop the country being taken over by a foreign power?"

I shall continue, week by week, to suggest ways in which you might be able to ensure that they never need to ask that question.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many were in London the other weekend for the protest? Thousands surely?

I didn't hear a peep out of the MSM over this.

How's about we all go into our local BBC centre and tell them in the most polite way possible that they are working for a traiterous organisation and are thereby complicit in the continued cover-up and obfuscation of every real issue facing the country.

It's not the peole at the bottom who are in control but their compicity is enabling the whole agenda.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, what is it all about?

Protest over ‘Euro bias’ at the Proms
Date published: 08/09/2009

A letter of protest about the alleged blatant promotion of the EU during the “Last Night of the Proms” in the Royal Albert Hall has been sent to the BBC’s director-general by an irate North West Euro MP.

“Over the past few years there has been a creeping, indeed blatant promotion of the European Union by the BBC during the televised, ‘Last Night of the Proms’ in London,” said Paul Nuttall.

“This has being achieved by large EU flags totally usurping the Union Jack flags, which used to form the main backdrop behind the orchestra and below the statue of Sir Henry Wood, the founder of the Proms.

“This has been noted by a great many viewers and this Euro-creep has even extended to certain planted members of the audience. It was so bad at one time that viewers’ sight of the orchestra was almost obliterated by giant EU flags being waved in front of the television cameras,” said Mr Nuttall, UKIP MEP for the North West.

“After complaints were made to the BBC about this, the large EU flags were taken out of the audience. However, the other EU stage drapes were not.

“The BBC has no right to indulge in pro-EU political propaganda, which this most certainly is. The EU flag has no place at the very night when the British people express their patriotism and pride in their nation.

“The presence of this blue flag alongside the Union Jack, is abhorred by a great many viewers, as the EU flag no more represents Britain and its people in 2009 than the Hammer and Sickle of the Soviet Union did Czechoslovakia or Poland during the Cold War era.”

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bilderberg Steering Committee can't find anybody else to do the dirty work? Or are they too busy being evil elsewhere?

Barroso wins 2nd European Commission term
By ROBERT WIELAARD (AP) – 1 hour ago

STRASBOURG, France — The European Parliament gave Jose Manuel Barroso another five-year term as European Commission president Wednesday, but its vote bared lingering misgivings about the conservative ex-Portuguese premier.

The powerful executive position drafts EU-wide legislation and ensures governments obey it, and Barroso has promised to respond to the global economic crisis by reforming the financial sector and its "unethical bonuses."

Barroso, 53, was the only candidate when the 736-member EU assembly voted 382 to 219, with 117 abstentions, to back him for a second term as the EU's top executive.

The EU's 27 national government leaders had unanimously nominated Barroso for the position in June.

In a brief speech, he thanked the assembly for its "expression of enormous confidence in me" and said he will work with all political factions in the European Parliament to shape the bloc's legislation.....

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if the EU was truly democratic then we european citizens should have been able to vote whether or not we wanted barrosco! as usual deomcracy is only for the eurocrat elites not for the likes of us mere proletarians.
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Revealed: The secret report that shows how the Nazis planned a Fourth Reich ...in the EU

By Adam Lebor - 9th May 2009

The paper is aged and fragile, the typewritten letters slowly fading. But US Military Intelligence report EW-Pa 128 is as chilling now as the day it was written in November 1944.

The document, also known as the Red House Report, is a detailed account of a secret meeting at the Maison Rouge Hotel in Strasbourg on August 10, 1944. There, Nazi officials ordered an elite group of German industrialists to plan for Germany's post-war recovery, prepare for the Nazis' return to power and work for a 'strong German empire'. In other words: the Fourth Reich.


Plotters: SS chief Heinrich Himmler with Max Faust, engineer with Nazi-backed company I. G. Farben

The three-page, closely typed report, marked 'Secret', copied to British officials and sent by air pouch to Cordell Hull, the US Secretary of State, detailed how the industrialists were to work with the Nazi Party to rebuild Germany's economy by sending money through Switzerland.

They would set up a network of secret front companies abroad. They would wait until conditions were right. And then they would take over Germany again.

The industrialists included representatives of Volkswagen, Krupp and Messerschmitt. Officials from the Navy and Ministry of Armaments were also at the meeting and, with incredible foresight, they decided together that the Fourth German Reich, unlike its predecessor, would be an economic rather than a military empire - but not just German.

The Red House Report, which was unearthed from US intelligence files, was the inspiration for my thriller The Budapest Protocol.

The book opens in 1944 as the Red Army advances on the besieged city, then jumps to the present day, during the election campaign for the first president of Europe. The European Union superstate is revealed as a front for a sinister conspiracy, one rooted in the last days of the Second World War.

But as I researched and wrote the novel, I realised that some of the Red House Report had become fact.

Nazi Germany did export massive amounts of capital through neutral countries. German businesses did set up a network of front companies abroad. The German economy did soon recover after 1945.

The Third Reich was defeated militarily, but powerful Nazi-era bankers, industrialists and civil servants, reborn as democrats, soon prospered in the new West Germany. There they worked for a new cause: European economic and political integration.

Is it possible that the Fourth Reich those Nazi industrialists foresaw has, in some part at least, come to pass?

The Red House Report was written by a French spy who was at the meeting in Strasbourg in 1944 - and it paints an extraordinary picture.

The industrialists gathered at the Maison Rouge Hotel waited expectantly as SS Obergruppenfuhrer Dr Scheid began the meeting. Scheid held one of the highest ranks in the SS, equivalent to Lieutenant General. He cut an imposing figure in his tailored grey-green uniform and high, peaked cap with silver braiding. Guards were posted outside and the room had been searched for microphones.
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Death camp: Auschwitz, where tens of thousands of slave labourers died working in a factory run by German firm I. G. Farben

There was a sharp intake of breath as he began to speak. German industry must realise that the war cannot be won, he declared. 'It must take steps in preparation for a post-war commercial campaign.' Such defeatist talk was treasonous - enough to earn a visit to the Gestapo's cellars, followed by a one-way trip to a concentration camp.

But Scheid had been given special licence to speak the truth – the future of the Reich was at stake. He ordered the industrialists to 'make contacts and alliances with foreign firms, but this must be done individually and without attracting any suspicion'.

The industrialists were to borrow substantial sums from foreign countries after the war.

They were especially to exploit the finances of those German firms that had already been used as fronts for economic penetration abroad, said Scheid, citing the American partners of the steel giant Krupp as well as Zeiss, Leica and the Hamburg-America Line shipping company.

But as most of the industrialists left the meeting, a handful were beckoned into another smaller gathering, presided over by Dr Bosse of the Armaments Ministry. There were secrets to be shared with the elite of the elite.

Bosse explained how, even though the Nazi Party had informed the industrialists that the war was lost, resistance against the Allies would continue until a guarantee of German unity could be obtained. He then laid out the secret three-stage strategy for the Fourth Reich.

In stage one, the industrialists were to 'prepare themselves to finance the Nazi Party, which would be forced to go underground as a Maquis', using the term for the French resistance.

Stage two would see the government allocating large sums to German industrialists to establish a 'secure post-war foundation in foreign countries', while 'existing financial reserves must be placed at the disposal of the party so that a strong German empire can be created after the defeat'.

In stage three, German businesses would set up a 'sleeper' network of agents abroad through front companies, which were to be covers for military research and intelligence, until the Nazis returned to power.

'The existence of these is to be known only by very few people in each industry and by chiefs of the Nazi Party,' Bosse announced.

'Each office will have a liaison agent with the party. As soon as the party becomes strong enough to re-establish its control over Germany, the industrialists will be paid for their effort and co-operation by concessions and orders.'


Extraordinary revelations: The 1944 Red House Report, detailing 'plans of German industrialists to engage in underground activity'

The exported funds were to be channelled through two banks in Zurich, or via agencies in Switzerland which bought property in Switzerland for German concerns, for a five per cent commission.

The Nazis had been covertly sending funds through neutral countries for years.

Swiss banks, in particular the Swiss National Bank, accepted gold looted from the treasuries of Nazi-occupied countries. They accepted assets and property titles taken from Jewish businessmen in Germany and occupied countries, and supplied the foreign currency that the Nazis needed to buy vital war materials.

Swiss economic collaboration with the Nazis had been closely monitored by Allied intelligence.

The Red House Report's author notes: 'Previously, exports of capital by German industrialists to neutral countries had to be accomplished rather surreptitiously and by means of special influence.

'Now the Nazi Party stands behind the industrialists and urges them to save themselves by getting funds outside Germany and at the same time advance the party's plans for its post-war operations.'

The order to export foreign capital was technically illegal in Nazi Germany, but by the summer of 1944 the law did not matter.

More than two months after D-Day, the Nazis were being squeezed by the Allies from the west and the Soviets from the east. Hitler had been badly wounded in an assassination attempt. The Nazi leadership was nervous, fractious and quarrelling.

During the war years the SS had built up a gigantic economic empire, based on plunder and murder, and they planned to keep it.

A meeting such as that at the Maison Rouge would need the protection of the SS, according to Dr Adam Tooze of Cambridge University, author of Wages of Destruction: The Making And Breaking Of The Nazi Economy.

He says: 'By 1944 any discussion of post-war planning was banned. It was extremely dangerous to do that in public. But the SS was thinking in the long-term. If you are trying to establish a workable coalition after the war, the only safe place to do it is under the auspices of the apparatus of terror.'

Shrewd SS leaders such as Otto Ohlendorf were already thinking ahead.

As commander of Einsatzgruppe D, which operated on the Eastern Front between 1941 and 1942, Ohlendorf was responsible for the murder of 90,000 men, women and children.

A highly educated, intelligent lawyer and economist, Ohlendorf showed great concern for the psychological welfare of his extermination squad's gunmen: he ordered that several of them should fire simultaneously at their victims, so as to avoid any feelings of personal responsibility.

By the winter of 1943 he was transferred to the Ministry of Economics. Ohlendorf's ostensible job was focusing on export trade, but his real priority was preserving the SS's massive pan-European economic empire after Germany's defeat.

Ohlendorf, who was later hanged at Nuremberg, took particular interest in the work of a German economist called Ludwig Erhard. Erhard had written a lengthy manuscript on the transition to a post-war economy after Germany's defeat. This was dangerous, especially as his name had been mentioned in connection with resistance groups.

But Ohlendorf, who was also chief of the SD, the Nazi domestic security service, protected Erhard as he agreed with his views on stabilising the post-war German economy. Ohlendorf himself was protected by Heinrich Himmler, the chief of the SS.

Ohlendorf and Erhard feared a bout of hyper-inflation, such as the one that had destroyed the German economy in the Twenties. Such a catastrophe would render the SS's economic empire almost worthless.

The two men agreed that the post-war priority was rapid monetary stabilisation through a stable currency unit, but they realised this would have to be enforced by a friendly occupying power, as no post-war German state would have enough legitimacy to introduce a currency that would have any value.

That unit would become the Deutschmark, which was introduced in 1948. It was an astonishing success and it kick-started the German economy. With a stable currency, Germany was once again an attractive trading partner.

The German industrial conglomerates could rapidly rebuild their economic empires across Europe.

War had been extraordinarily profitable for the German economy. By 1948 - despite six years of conflict, Allied bombing and post-war reparations payments - the capital stock of assets such as equipment and buildings was larger than in 1936, thanks mainly to the armaments boom.

Erhard pondered how German industry could expand its reach across the shattered European continent. The answer was through supranationalism - the voluntary surrender of national sovereignty to an international body.

Germany and France were the drivers behind the European Coal and Steel Community (ECSC), the precursor to the European Union. The ECSC was the first supranational organisation, established in April 1951 by six European states. It created a common market for coal and steel which it regulated. This set a vital precedent for the steady erosion of national sovereignty, a process that continues today.

But before the common market could be set up, the Nazi industrialists had to be pardoned, and Nazi bankers and officials reintegrated. In 1957, John J. McCloy, the American High Commissioner for Germany, issued an amnesty for industrialists convicted of war crimes.

The two most powerful Nazi industrialists, Alfried Krupp of Krupp Industries and Friedrich Flick, whose Flick Group eventually owned a 40 per cent stake in Daimler-Benz, were released from prison after serving barely three years.

Krupp and Flick had been central figures in the Nazi economy. Their companies used slave labourers like cattle, to be worked to death.

The Krupp company soon became one of Europe's leading industrial combines.

The Flick Group also quickly built up a new pan-European business empire. Friedrich Flick remained unrepentant about his wartime record and refused to pay a single Deutschmark in compensation until his death in July 1972 at the age of 90, when he left a fortune of more than $1billion, the equivalent of £400million at the time.

'For many leading industrial figures close to the Nazi regime, Europe became a cover for pursuing German national interests after the defeat of Hitler,' says historian Dr Michael Pinto-Duschinsky, an adviser to Jewish former slave labourers.

'The continuity of the economy of Germany and the economies of post-war Europe is striking. Some of the leading figures in the Nazi economy became leading builders of the European Union.'

Numerous household names had exploited slave and forced labourers including BMW, Siemens and Volkswagen, which produced munitions and the V1 rocket.

Slave labour was an integral part of the Nazi war machine. Many concentration camps were attached to dedicated factories where company officials worked hand-in-hand with the SS officers overseeing the camps.

Like Krupp and Flick, Hermann Abs, post-war Germany's most powerful banker, had prospered in the Third Reich. Dapper, elegant and diplomatic, Abs joined the board of Deutsche Bank, Germany's biggest bank, in 1937. As the Nazi empire expanded, Deutsche Bank enthusiastically 'Aryanised' Austrian and Czechoslovak banks that were owned by Jews.

By 1942, Abs held 40 directorships, a quarter of which were in countries occupied by the Nazis. Many of these Aryanised companies used slave labour and by 1943 Deutsche Bank's wealth had quadrupled.

Abs also sat on the supervisory board of I.G. Farben, as Deutsche Bank's representative. I.G. Farben was one of Nazi Germany's most powerful companies, formed out of a union of BASF, Bayer, Hoechst and subsidiaries in the Twenties.

It was so deeply entwined with the SS and the Nazis that it ran its own slave labour camp at Auschwitz, known as Auschwitz III, where tens of thousands of Jews and other prisoners died producing artificial rubber.

When they could work no longer, or were verbraucht (used up) in the Nazis' chilling term, they were moved to Birkenau. There they were gassed using Zyklon B, the patent for which was owned by I.G. Farben.

But like all good businessmen, I.G. Farben's bosses hedged their bets.

During the war the company had financed Ludwig Erhard's research. After the war, 24 I.G. Farben executives were indicted for war crimes over Auschwitz III - but only twelve of the 24 were found guilty and sentenced to prison terms ranging from one-and-a-half to eight years. I.G. Farben got away with mass murder.

Abs was one of the most important figures in Germany's post-war reconstruction. It was largely thanks to him that, just as the Red House Report exhorted, a 'strong German empire' was indeed rebuilt, one which formed the basis of today's European Union.

Abs was put in charge of allocating Marshall Aid - reconstruction funds - to German industry. By 1948 he was effectively managing Germany's economic recovery.

Crucially, Abs was also a member of the European League for Economic Co-operation, an elite intellectual pressure group set up in 1946. The league was dedicated to the establishment of a common market, the precursor of the European Union.

Its members included industrialists and financiers and it developed policies that are strikingly familiar today - on monetary integration and common transport, energy and welfare systems.

When Konrad Adenauer, the first Chancellor of West Germany, took power in 1949, Abs was his most important financial adviser.

Behind the scenes Abs was working hard for Deutsche Bank to be allowed to reconstitute itself after decentralisation. In 1957 he succeeded and he returned to his former employer.

That same year the six members of the ECSC signed the Treaty of Rome, which set up the European Economic Community. The treaty further liberalised trade and established increasingly powerful supranational institutions including the European Parliament and European Commission.

Like Abs, Ludwig Erhard flourished in post-war Germany. Adenauer made Erhard Germany's first post-war economics minister. In 1963 Erhard succeeded Adenauer as Chancellor for three years.

But the German economic miracle – so vital to the idea of a new Europe - was built on mass murder. The number of slave and forced labourers who died while employed by German companies in the Nazi era was 2,700,000.

Some sporadic compensation payments were made but German industry agreed a conclusive, global settlement only in 2000, with a £3billion compensation fund. There was no admission of legal liability and the individual compensation was paltry.

A slave labourer would receive 15,000 Deutschmarks (about £5,000), a forced labourer 5,000 (about £1,600). Any claimant accepting the deal had to undertake not to launch any further legal action.

To put this sum of money into perspective, in 2001 Volkswagen alone made profits of £1.8billion.

Next month, 27 European Union member states vote in the biggest transnational election in history. Europe now enjoys peace and stability. Germany is a democracy, once again home to a substantial Jewish community. The Holocaust is seared into national memory.

But the Red House Report is a bridge from a sunny present to a dark past. Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's propaganda chief, once said: 'In 50 years' time nobody will think of nation states.'

For now, the nation state endures. But these three typewritten pages are a reminder that today's drive towards a European federal state is inexorably tangled up with the plans of the SS and German industrialists for a Fourth Reich - an economic rather than military imperium.

• The Budapest Protocol, Adam LeBor's thriller inspired by the Red House Report, is published by Reportage Press.

Find this story at www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1179902/Revealed-The-secret-report-sh ows-Nazis-planned-Fourth-Reich--EU.html

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: EU game goes to next level on Tue 1st Dec 2009 Reply with quote

Farage reprimanded for criticising new EU foreign minister: "certain expressions not acceptable"
Treasurer for CND, isn't that the sort of job MI5 would wish to infiltrate one of their people into?

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Revealed: The secret report that shows how the Nazis planned a Fourth Reich ...in the EU
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The Red House Report

by Michael Weiss
Posted: May 12, 2009 01:03 PM

My friend Adam LeBor has just written his first work of fiction, a political thriller set at the end of World War II and titled The Budapest Protocol. Rather like the Valkyrie plot to assassinate Hitler and restore Tom Cruise's career, LeBor's book is rooted in historical fact. However, his expose in the Daily Mail explaining the warp and woof of this Nazi conspiracy is more intriguing because the conspiracy actually succeeded:

The three-page, closely typed [Red House Report], marked 'Secret', copied to British officials and sent by air pouch to Cordell Hull, the US Secretary of State, detailed how the industrialists were to work with the Nazi Party to rebuild Germany's economy by sending money through Switzerland.

They would set up a network of secret front companies abroad. They would wait until conditions were right. And then they would take over Germany again.

The industrialists included representatives of Volkswagen, Krupp and Messerschmitt. Officials from the Navy and Ministry of Armaments were also at the meeting and, with incredible foresight, they decided together that the Fourth German Reich, unlike its predecessor, would be an economic rather than a military empire - but not just German.

Hannah Arendt coined the term "fascist international" and presciently observed that a chauvinist hyper-nationalism is not mutually exclusive from what we would now toothlessly call "globalism" (see the phenomenon of pan-Arab nationalism, for instance, which declares itself a seeming contradiction in terms but shakes out rather coherently). LeBor's argument is that it is impossible to conceive of the European Union -- in form if not ideology -- without examining a quiet but shrewd 1944 plan for resuscitating the Reich in the aftermath of certain military defeat. A mass pardon of Nazi industrialists, such as Alfried Krupp and Friedrich Flick, preceded the establishment of the European Coal and Steel Commission, of which they then took extreme advantage. Hermann Abs, a prominent board member of Deutsche Bank, which "Aryanized" Jewish-owned Austrian and Czechoslovak banks beginning in 1937, later was put in charge of administering Marshall Aid. LeBor writes:

Crucially, Abs was also a member of the European League for Economic Co-operation, an elite intellectual pressure group set up in 1946. The league was dedicated to the establishment of a common market, the precursor of the European Union.

Its members included industrialists and financiers and it developed policies that are strikingly familiar today - on monetary integration and common transport, energy and welfare systems.

When Konrad Adenauer, the first Chancellor of West Germany, took power in 1949, Abs was his most important financial adviser.

Behind the scenes Abs was working hard for Deutsche Bank to be allowed to reconstitute itself after decentralisation. In 1957 he succeeded and he returned to his former employer.

And the main economic theorist of renascent industrial Germany, Ludwig Erhard, became Adenauer's first postwar economics minister before ascending to the chancellory himself.

LeBor's conclusion is as dark as they come: "[T]he German economic miracle – so vital to the idea of a new Europe - was built on mass murder. The number of slave and forced labourers who died while employed by German companies in the Nazi era was 2,700,000."
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Interesting conjunction of the dire EU and the financial collapse. Is this corrupt European pseudo state really supposed to bring order out of the financial chaos?
Weapons of Mass Financial Destruction having been fired at non Euro currencies? Economic warfare.

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You are now a citizen of the EU superstate
Monday 30 November 2009 - John Boyd

From the start of December you will be a citizen of the European Union superstate. All of us in Britain will be ruled by a centralised Euro-federalist government in Brussels.

Already four out of five laws emanate from Brussels, rubber- stamped by the elected government in Westminster. EU legislation is decided behind closed doors by unaccountable and unelected commissioners - all done in conjunction with the various Councils of Ministers from the 27 member states. They are now the Euro-federalist government who are responsible for and to the EU and no longer primarily to their national governments.

The Treaty of Lisbon, or more properly the EU constitution, has ditched the inter-governmental arrangements which have been in force since the Common Market was set up in 1957 and has turned the EU into a superstate. This qualitative change has been brought about by stealth over half a century - and without changing the name European Union.

Any democratic procedure, agreement or consultation over the Treaty of Lisbon by 500 million people across the 27 nation-states was totally absent, except for Ireland.

The electorates of France and the Netherlands threw out the EU Constitution and then Ireland rejected the deliberately scrambled Treaty of Lisbon. Money without limit was poured in to the Yes camp to set up unrelated arguments, crafted to frighten and mislead the electorate.

With the misinformed and one-sided media campaign, the public understandably voted for the Lisbon Treaty and sacrificed what national independence and democracy they still held and had literally fought for over the centuries.

No other member state was given the opportunity to fully discuss and voice opposition to the Lisbon Treaty. All three major political parties in Britain fell into line and reneged on promises to hold a referendum on Lisbon.

The EU constitution has been imposed from the top downwards and does not have any support from the will of the people across the EU. It is a serious blow to democracy and the right to self-determination of nation-states. In historical terms it undoes both the American and French revolutions.

All the EU's institutions have been strengthened by the treaty to consolidate the centralised government and neoliberal free market initiated by the Thatcher government. Sixty new vetoes normally dealt with by national governments have been passed to Brussels. Not one area has been passed back down from Brussels to national capitals. An unelected EU president and de facto EU foreign secretary, misnamed High Representative, are part of this union's government.

The European Court of Justice (ECJ) in Luxembourg is the supreme court of the EU, which overrides the courts and Parliament in Britain - including the recently formed Supreme Court that sits in the Middlesex Guildhall in Parliament Square. The ECJ has made rulings on four important cases which affect the labour and trade union movements and all those who work for their living within the EU.

The Viking, Laval, Ruffert and Luxembourg cases have sought to turn the clock back to the 19th century by undermining trade union rights. These include collective bargaining, using the free movement of labour around the EU to the detriment of wages, conditions and welfare protection. They impinge on the right to strike and other fundamental trade union and workers' rights in what has been aptly coined the "race to the bottom."

A major purpose of the ECJ is to see the objectives of the "free movement of capital, services, goods and labour" of the Single European Market are strictly adhered to. In other words - to give big capital free rein and damn the social consequences.

The EU constitution has specified that capitalism shall be the economic system of the Union. This is contrary to every other constitution across the world and specifically blocks the right to legislate for socialist measures - let alone a socialist economic system.

Big capital is no longer prepared to tolerate national democracy or be inhibited by the powers of the nation-state. The only institution in existence able to curb the ever growing transnational corporations and banks, and movement of big capital are the governments of nation-states.

Just because we have elected governments who do not exercise that power but instead hang on to the coat tails and kow-tow to big capital does not negate such powers. However, what does remove the powers of nation-states is the formation of the EU superstate where the government cannot be kicked out and policies and legislation are sealed in place.

We are all now both subjects in the monarchy of the United Kingdom and citizens of the EU super-state. We have responsibilities and duties to obey the laws of all the EU institutions in addition to those in Britain.

If we wish to resist this new arrangement then we first have to understand the qualitative change that has taken place without notice. Above all we have to understand this remains part of the class struggle between labour and big capital and that well-tested and hard-won rights have to be defended and used. The longer we dally the worse it will be to untangle this huge reactionary backward step, which undermines all forms of democracy.

John Boyd is secretary of the Campaign against Euro-federalism and editor of the Democrat

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BRUSSELS, Dec. 1 (UPI) --
The provisions of the European Union's Lisbon Treaty went into effect Tuesday with a sense of relief rather than celebration, analysts said.

An assessment of the treaty's history and significance in the Brussels publication the EUobserver noted the long struggle to enact Lisbon's provisions were so drawn-out and complicated -- beginning eight year ago when member states decided the European Union needed to address its democratic legitimacy -- that there was little celebrating Tuesday.

Since then, the publication said, the European Union has grown by 12 members and has expanded the area where the euro is used as the currency to 16 countries. The EU now sees its main challenges as addressing climate change, dealing with economic globalization and fighting the economic crisis.

The EUobserver reported the most visible changes wrought by the Lisbon Treaty are the creation of a permanent president of the European Council and a newly empowered foreign policy chief who will be in charge of a new large diplomatic corps.

But it's the expansion of the European Parliament's powers and a reduction of member states' ability to veto that are the most profound changes, the publication said.

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I think its going to be even worse than that according to Lord Monckton. its just the precursor to a One world government



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I think its going to be even worse than that according to Lord Monckton. its just the precursor to a One world government



Von Rompuy has confirmed that


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite like the parody..


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Me thinks: The New World Government is going to consist of America, Mexico, Canada & the UK. All the bull regarding climate change may be bought by domestic audiences but it is inconceivable that it cuts any ice (pardon the expression) in any half-competent sovereign government. Countries such as Russia, (Germany,France), China, India, Japan will not be looking at the treaty as a stage towards one-world-government but only to give lip-service insofar as it benefit their own interest.
If accept the latest pundits forecast of the dollar going into freefall, then this must be equally, if not more so for the pound sterling. Should this happen the Britain's influence from cherished square mile will inevitable switch to Frankfurt. Already EU countries are complaining of a financial wall being built around the inner core of nations, when the pretence is over Britain (leader in deindustrialization) will find itself outside that wall. This the result of decades of stupidity of British politicians bowing down to corrupt dictates of the US.

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WTO starts using name EU as Lisbon Treaty takes effect
www.chinaview.cn 02Dec09
·WTO Tuesday started to use the name "European Union (EU)" as Lisbon Treaty came into force.
·Previously, the EU was known officially in the WTO as the European Communities (EC).
·The Lisbon Treaty came into force on Tuesday across the 27-nation European Union.
GENEVA, Dec. 1 (Xinhua) -- The World Trade Organization (WTO) on Tuesday formally started to use the name "European Union (EU)" as the Lisbon Treaty came into force.

Previously, for legal reasons the EU was known officially in the WTO as the European Communities (EC).

"For the first time in the WTO, the name 'European Union' was used" at an ongoing WTO ministerial conference, the Geneva-based body said in a statement.

But the name EC will continue to be found in older documents, it said.

The Lisbon Treaty came into force on Tuesday across the 27-nation European Union. It will allow the bloc to be able to speak with one stronger voice on the international stage.

The EU (until Nov. 30 known officially in the WTO as the EC), as a single customs union with a single trade policy and staff, has been a WTO member since Jan. 1, 1995.

Its 27 member states are also WTO members in their own right.


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As Tony says, Bilderberg is important, but once you find your way around the Bilderberg pie, you find out there are 100`s of pies all connected to Bilderberg and all of a sudden, there are so many other things to talk about.

The same thing seems to have happened on this site...instead of talking about 9/11, 7/7 and false flag terrorism, you are now talking about geopolitik...Europe and the NWO world government.

The above is men`t to be constructive. Smile

Many years ago in 2001/2, I was posting on the BBC Radio 4 forums about this financial collapse, I also posted and predicted it on Bilderberg.org. Some, if not most of the moderators poo, pooed what I was saying....bankers believed their own propaganda and the mods and wider public believed the NWO propaganda.

The financial collapse was DESIGNED...planned. Most people scoff, saying it could never be done. But the reality is, its quite easy and once you have set a few things in motion, the rest falls into place.

Relax credit lending to businesses and public, Expand the money supply, especially in the US where THEY run a global extortion racket. Keep the money cheap...Greenspan. Give away a massive tax break. The rest of the big Central banks follow the FED`s lead. Stop publishing the M3 numbers, but they still did the calculations. The banks really had no choice, but to funnel this money into the system....so much, that Amerikans earning $30,000 (£15,000 UK) could get $1,000,000 mortgages and when the housing bubble took off, they borrowed again buying second homes, cars and holidays.

Of course, the brains behind this fantastic criminal conspiracy were in London...I happen to believe the center of global power is in London. I think there are people/elements within the US establishment who were involved. The great clue, is that MI6 wrote both documents which took the US and UK into Iraq...Bush needed a sweet US economy and by racking up so much debt, it has become a WMD in its own right....poor suckers in China.lol

The next clue, is that MI6 took the best of Bin Laden`s men in Afghanistan and used them in Bosnia and then let them settle in the UK....most were Pakistanis. 19 (23) Saudi hijakers were allegedly used on 9/11, but since that moment, its been Pakistanis with a few extras. Up this thread, it is suggested that the City setup the US for a fall....why not, the US is a British corporation and there is a lot of evidence to support this. After taking office, Obama snubbed Brown...this is when Obama said "things are much worse than I expected".lol

Germany was the greatest problem in forming the EU, So after the war, the EU was much easier and so was the creation if Israel. to build a World Union, the US needs a makeover and its happening before your very eyes....Obama`s healthcare is a decoy.

The US, UK and EU have slipped into the fascist model, almost unnoticed.

We are about to get a whole bunch of hell. It could come one at a time, but it could come altogether. Hyperinflation, major food shortages, war[s], conscription and pandemic, Although the A-H1N1 has subsided, there is hell in the Ukraine and I think the release of this man made virus has been curtailed. Even I sent emails to Dpt Health, Home Office and my local MP, exposing the conspiracy, but this does not mean they won`t do it again.

Just a few extra points.

During the week that Blair visited the US...one week before the Liquid Bomb expose. A man who`s name was on a terror watch list, was allowed to board a LHR flight going to the US. When the plane got halfway, they called the pilot and told him about the suspect and asked him to continue to the US. The pilot though better and returned to the UK...the whole this was brushed under the carpet, no investigation. So what happen on Christmas day, had been done before. And like the shoe bomber, this patsy didn`t even go to the safety of the loo.

The last point....The new EU president....nothing set out about this position and the candidates installation ushered in the New Age of Feudalism...backroom deals, corruption and hidden agendas.

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Hi CJ,

I agree that this website should be used for investigating 9/11 and other false flag terrorist events. We live within a Matrix-like universe and our hope of changing it all, is, I think, limited. The illusion of money at the core of our society is generally pretty useful and I'm not in a position to go away to find an alternative. However, when it comes to false-flag terrorism, 9/11 is the key to break the NWO's agenda. If the truth about 9/11 is known and understood by everybody then similar false flag activities will cease and, in theory, we will have a more stable world. So it is my opinion that while other people may be interested in solving the NWO problem and going deeper into the Matrix, the first step should be to expose 9/11 for the sham it is and stop the wars and oppression such false flags generate.
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If you detect the devil's hand in current events, you may be closer to the truth than you think.


A woman who was raised in the Illuminati cult describes a powerful secret organization comprising one per cent of the U.S. population that has infiltrated all social institutions and is covertly preparing a military takeover. Her revelations cast the "war on terror" and "homeland security" in their true light.

"Svali" is the pseudonym of the woman, age 45, who was a mind "programmer" for the cult until 1996. She was the sixth head trainer in the San Diego branch and had 30 trainers reporting to her. She has risked her life to warn humanity of the Illuminati's covert power and agenda.

She describes a sadistic Satanic cult led by the richest and most powerful people in the world. It is largely homosexual and pedophile, practises animal sacrifice and ritual murder. It works "hand in glove" with the CIA and Freemasonry. It is Aryan supremacist (German is spoken at the top) but welcomes Jewish apostates. It controls the world traffic in drugs, guns, pornography and prostitution. It may be the hand behind political assassination, and "terrorism," including Sept. 11, the Maryland sniper and the Bali bomb blast.

It has infiltrated government on a local, state and national level; education and financial institutions; religion and the media. Based in Europe, it plans a "world order" that will make its earlier attempts, Nazism and Communism, look like picnics. One other detail: these people are not happy.

Svali's courageous testimony explains why our children are no longer taught civic values, why they are being habituated to homosexuality and violence, and why our "culture" is descending into nihilism and sexual depravity. It raises the possibility that George W. Bush and his Administration are Illuminists and much of the world "elite" is engaged in a mind-boggling criminal conspiracy.

In March 2000, Svali began writing a monthly column for survivors of Illuminati ritual abuse at Suite101.com. In December 2000, H.J. Springer, the editor of CentrExNews,com contacted Svali and conducted an extended 18-part interview with her by email, which is reproduced on line and is copyrighted.

"I am convinced she is the real McCoy," Springer wrote to me. "I have personally relayed numerous email messages to her from other members -- ritually abused, brainwashed, raped, sexually abused people & you name it -- some of them confirming to me her story. So I have absolutely no doubt that Svali has been part of the Illuminati since childhood."

I also trust Svali's testimony because it confirms my intuition and intensive research. Everything fits: from the dead hand that seems to suppress humanity to why Clinton gave secret technology to the Chinese, to persistent reports of concentration camps in the US. It explains why people I know behave in a conspiratorial way. I thank Svali for giving me a frightening but incredible key to understanding the world.

A friend urged me to beware of a hoax and offered to help confirm Svali's personal story. I accepted. I invite you to read her entire testimony and make up your own mind. Read "Part One" to "Part 18" first, starting at the middle of the list and working up.

With their permission, here are some highlights of Svali's correspondence with CentrExnews.com's H.J. Springer. I have also included material from her article "Are the Illuminati Taking Over the World?"

Pervasive Presence

Svali: "The Illuminati are present in every major metropolitan centre in the United States. The Illuminati believe in controlling an area through its: banks and financial institutions (guess how many sit on banking boards? You'd be surprised) Local government: guess how many get elected to local city councils? Law: children are encouraged to go to law school and medical school. Media: others are encouraged to go to journalism school, and members help fund local papers.

Beliefs

Svali: "The Illuminati is a group that practices a form of faith known as "enlightenment". It is Luciferian, and they teach their followers that their roots go back to the ancient mystery religions of Babylon, Egypt, and Celtic druidism. They have taken what they consider the "best" of each, the foundational practices, and joined them together into a strongly occult discipline. Many groups at the local level worship ancient deities such as "El", "Baal", and "Ashtarte", as well as "Isis and Osiris" and "Set".... I do know that these people teach and practice evil."

Weishaupt

Svali: "Weishaupt did not create the Illuminati, they chose him as a figurehead and told him what to write about. The financiers, dating back to the bankers during the times of the Templar Knights who financed the early kings in Europe, created the Illuminati. Weishaupt was their "go fer", who did their bidding."

Military Takeover

Svali: "Briefly, each region of the United States has "nerve centres" or power bases for regional activity. The United States has been divided up into seven major geographical regions. Each region has localities within it that contain military compounds and bases that are hidden in remote, isolated areas or on large private estates.

These bases are used intermittently to teach and train generational Illuminati in military techniques, hand- to- hand combat, crowd control, use of arms, and all aspects of military warfare. Why? Because the Illuminists believe that our government, as we know it, as well as the governments of most nations around the world, are destined to collapse. These will be planned collapses, and they will occur in the following ways:

The Illuminati has planned first for a financial collapse that will make the great depression look like a picnic. This will occur through the manoeuvring of the great banks and financial institutions of the world, through stock manipulation, and interest rate changes. Most people will be indebted to the federal government through bank and credit card debt, etc. The governments will recall all debts immediately, but most people will be unable to pay and will be bankrupted. This will cause generalized financial panic, which will occur simultaneously worldwide, as the Illuminists firmly believe in controlling people through finances.

Doesn't sound pleasant, does it? I don't know the exact time frame for all of this, and wouldn't want to even guess. The good news is that if a person is debt-free, owes nothing to the government or credit debt, and can live self sufficiently, they may do better than others. I would invest in gold, not stocks, if I had the income. Gold will once again be the world standard, and dollars will be pretty useless (remember after the Civil War? Our money will be worth about what confederate money was after the collapse).

Next there will be a military takeover, region by region, as the government declares a state of emergency and martial law. People will have panicked, there will be an anarchical state in most localities, and the government will justify its move as being necessary to control panicked citizens. The cult trained military leaders and people under their direction will use arms as well as crowd control techniques to implement this new state of affairs. ...Military bases will be set up, in each locality (actually, they are already here, but are covert). In the next few years, they will go above ground and be revealed. Each locality will have regional bases and leaders to which they are accountable. The hierarchy will closely reflect the current covert hierarchy.

About five years ago, when I left the Illuminati, approximately 1% of the US population was either part of the Illuminati, sympathetic to it, or a victim of Mind Control (and therefore considered useable). While this may not sound like many, imagine 1% of the population highly trained in the use of armaments, crowd control, psychological and behavioral techniques, armed with weapons and linked to paramilitary groups."

Leadership

Svali: "The national council [consists of] influential bankers with OLD money such as: The Rockefellers, the Mellon family, the Carnegie family, the Rothschild family etc. I know I shouldn't name names, but I will.

The "Supreme World Council" is already set up as a prototype of the one that will rule when the NWO comes into being. It meets on a regular basis to discuss finances, direction, policy, etc. and to problem-solve difficulties that come up. Once again, these leaders are heads in the financial world, OLD banking money. The Rothschild family in England, and in France, have ruling seats. A descendant of the Hapsburg dynasty has a generational seat. A descendant of the ruling families of England and France have a generational seat. The Rockefeller family in the US holds a seat.

This is one reason that the Illuminati have been pretty "untouchable" over the years. The ruling members are very, very, very wealthy and powerful. I hope this information is helpful. How do I know this? I was on a local leadership council (a head trainer), but I talked to those on regional. Also, every Illuminati child is taught who their "leaders" are, and told to take an oath of allegiance to them and the "New Order to come"."

Royalty

Svali: "The Illuminati leadership state that they are descended from royal bloodlines, as well as unbroken occult heritage.

See, there were two definitions of "royalty" used. Open royalty that is currently seen now, and "hidden royalty" of royal lineage and extreme occult power. Sometimes the two were concurrent, such as with the Prince of Wales.

I never thought of which country/line held the most power, since I was just a peon busily doing my job. But my understanding was: The Hanoverian / Hapsburg descendants rule in Germany over the Bruderheist. They are considered one of the strongest lines for occult as well. The British line is just under them, with the royal family. Definitely, they rule the UK branch under the Rothschilds in the occult realm, even though parliament rules the country openly.

In France, again, descendants of the royal families are also in power in the occult realm, but the French Rothschilds hold the reigns over all of them."

Rank of the US

Svali: "The U.S. is considered lower, and younger, than the European branches. ...Germany, France, and the UK form a triumvirate that rules in the European cult. The USSR is considered important, and has the strongest military groups. The USSR has been promised fourth position in the New World Order, BEFORE the role the U.S. would have, because the USSR has been more helpful and cooperative over the years with furthering the agenda.

The descendants of the former ruling families there are also involved in the occult leadership, along with the newer ones. There is no Marxism in the cult. China will be ranked after the USSR, then the U.S. But a lot of the current U.S. leadership will be in Europe when the change occurs, and many have homes there. They will be "changing nationalities" overnight, as it were. This is the little that I do remember. Wish I had been a better student of this stuff, but I was too busy trying to stay alive when I was in it.

Russia will be the military base and powerhouse of the group, since their military commanders (Illuminist) are considered the best in the world, and very, very disciplined. China, because of its roots in oriental occultism, and its large population, will also be considered a higher power than the US. But again, the real power will reside in Europe, according to what I was taught when part of the group.

The United Nations

Svali: "The UN was created early in this century in order to help overcome one of the biggest barriers to a one-world government ...That barrier is the one of nationalism, or pride in one's country. This is why it was NOT a popular concept when first introduced, it took years of country bashing in the media and the destruction of any sense of national pride by a (not so subtle) media campaign over the years.

The UN is a preparation, but it is not the real power in the world, and will be relatively unimportant when the NWO comes into being. The real councils will then step forward. But as a means of getting the general public to accept the idea of a "global community" and the "one world community" the UN is a stepping stone in their working towards the NWO."

Israel

Svali: "The conflict in the Middle East is only to the advantage of the Illuminists. They HATE Israel, and hope one day to see it destroyed, and are biding their time. One of the olive branches offered by the UN when it takes over is that they will prevent war in the Middle East, and this will be greeted with joy by many.

At the same time, the Illuminati covertly supply guns and funds to BOTH sides to keep the conflict fuelled. They are very duplicitous people. They used to funnel guns through the USSR to Palestine, for example, in the name of promoting "friendliness" between the USSR and this state and other Arab nations. Then, the US Illuminists would help funnel guns to Israel, for the same reason.

These people love the game of chess, and see warfare between nations as creating an order out of chaos. The USSR is going to get stronger again. It has too strong a military both openly, and covertly (ALL Illuminati military trainers have visited Russia to learn from them) to sit quietly and quiesciently to the side. In the NWO, they will be stronger than us."

Is the Illuminati a JEWISH conspiracy?

Svali: "Absolutely not. In fact, Hitler and his people (especially Himmler and Goebbels) were top Illuminists. The Illuminati are racist in the extreme, and as a child, I was forced to play "concentration camp" both on my farm in Virginia, and also in Europe in isolated camps in Germany.

The Jews historically fought against the occult (see Deuteronomy and the Old Testament for how God through the Jewish people tried to cleanse the land of the occult groups that were operating there, such as those who worshipped Baal, Ashtarte, and other Canaanite and Babylonian gods.

(from an email to Henry Makow) Yes, there are some very powerful Jewish people in this group. For instance, the Rothschild family literally runs the financial empire in Europe (and indirectly the States), and are a well-known Jewish family. I have also known people whose parents were Jewish diamond merchants in the group, and at every level. But to rise to power in the Illuminati, a Jewish person at night would be forced to renounce their faith, and to give their first allegiance to Lucifer and the beliefs of the Illuminati. In return for this betrayal, they believe that power (financial) and rewards come; and in one sense they do, but at too high a price (losing their eternal soul).

The nazi/concentration camp mentality is very strong, though, and I was told that Hitler, Himmler, Goebel, and others were high-ranking German members of the group (Himmler was higher than the other two), and Mengele their paid puppet as well, who later worked as a high trainer of the American branch between his periods of hiding in South America. They honestly believed that they were acting as agents of their 'gods' to exterminate the Jewish race, and I am so, so sorry that this group has enacted so many horrors on the earth (and so, so glad that I left it).

I hope this helps you. I have always wondered this, though, why some of the highest ranking financial families in the group (baron Rothschild of France is one of the 13 European lords, or "kings" that run the group in Europe, and sits on the World Council) are Jewish, yet the group espouses hatred of their own race."

ARE THEY RACIST?

Svali: "Lots of Illuminists have Fourth Reich programming inside. The Illuminati are racist, and have a very "Aryan" outlook. They believe strongly in the rule of the "pure" and "intelligent" by their definitions, and in their ceremonies, there will occasionally be minorities killed in ceremonies.

They are trying to breed a "genetically superior" race to rule, with their children and descendants. They are also followers of Plato's Republic, and believe that they will be the ones to usher in this "Utopian" rule with the NWO in their opinion. In their Utopia, the intelligentsia will rule, and the sheep like masses will follow their leaders (that is their view of the world; that the occult leaders are "enlightened' and intelligent, while the average person is a "sheep" to be led by the nose)."

FREEMASONRY

Svali: "The Freemasons and the Illuminati are hand in glove. I don't care if this steps on any toes, it's a fact. The Masonic temple at Alexandria, Virginia (the city itself was named after Alexandria, Egypt, and is a hotbed of Illuminati activity) is a centre in the Washington, DC area for Illuminati scholarship and teaching. I was taken there at intervals for testing, to step up a level, for scholarship, and high ceremonies. The leaders in this Masonic group were also Illuminists.

This has been true of every large city I have lived in. The top Freemasons were also top Illuminists. My maternal grandparents were both high ranking Masons in the city of Pittsburgh, Pa. (president of the Eastern Star and 33rd degree Mason) and they both were also leaders in the Illuminati in that area.

Are all Masons Illuminati? No, especially at the lower levels, I believe they know nothing of the practices that occur in the middle of the night in the larger temples. Many are probably fine businessmen and Christians. But I have never known a 32 degree or above who wasn't Illuminati, and the group helped create Freemasonry as a "front" for their activities."

CIA FBI are all infiltrated. So are Mormons etc.

Svali: "Many of the administrators and directors at the FBI are also Illuminists. The CIA helped bring over German scientists after WWII. Many of these were also Illuminati leaders in their own country, and they were welcomed with open arms by the U.S. group. They also funnelled all information they were learning to the Illuminati.

The Mormons affiliated years ago in a meeting with Illuminati leadership in the 1950s. The same with the Jehovah's Witnesses."

The Cold War

Svali:"Russia was never really a threat to us. Marxism was funded by the Illuminati, and espoused as a counterbalance to capitalism. The Illluminati believe strongly in balancing opposing forces, in the pull between opposites. They see history as a complex chess game, and they will fund one side, then another, while ultimately out of the chaos and division ..., they are laughing because they are ultimately beyond political parties. A top western financier will secretly meet with an eastern or Russian "adversary" during those years, and have a good laugh at how the "sheep" were being deluded. I am sharing here what I was taught, and also observed.

They are truly an international group, and the group's agenda supersedes any nationalistic feelings. There is also a lot of trading back and forth of members in these groups. A Russian trainer might come to the US for awhile, complete a job, then go back, or vice-versa."

Assassin Training

Svali: "Here is how it is done (how it was done to me): [1] When the child is 2 years old, place them in a metal cage with electrodes attached. Shock the child severely.
[2] Take the child out, and place a kitten in its hands. Tell the child to wring the kitten's neck. The child will cry and refuse.
[3] Put the child into the cage, and shock them until they are dazed and cannot scream any more.
[4] Take the child out, and tell them again to wring the kitten's neck. This time the child will shake all over, cry, but do it, afraid of the torture. The child will then go into the corner and vomit afterwards, while the adult praises them for "doing such a good job".

This is the first step. The animals get bigger over time, as the child gets older. They will be forced to kill an infant at some point, either a set up or VR, or in reality. They will be taught by age 9 to put together a gun, to aim, and fire on target and on command. They will then practice on realistic manikins. They will then practice on animals. They will then practice on "expendables" or in VR. They will be highly praised if they do well, and tortured if they don't comply.

The older the child or teen, the more advanced the training. By age 15, most children will also be forced to do hand to hand combat in front of spectators (high people who come to watch the "games" much as the ancient gladiators performed). These matches are rarely done to the death, usually until one child goes down. They use every type of weapon imaginable, and learn to fight for their lives. If a child loses a fight, they are heavily punished by their trainer, who loses "face". If they win, they are again praised for being "strong' and adept with weapons. By the time they are 21, they are well trained combat/killing machines with command codes to kill and they have been tested over and over to prove that they WILL obey on command. This is how children in the German Illuminati are brought up, I went through it myself."

Trust in Family

Svali: "They tell their children as they are torturing them, "I am doing this because I love you." To them, the greatest love is to make a child strong, and fit to lead or to move higher in the group, by whatever means it takes.

If a leader sees a child, and wants it as a prostitute, the loving parents will give it away, happy that their child will rise in status. Also, again, they view betrayal as the greatest good. They will do set up after set up to teach their children to never openly trust others.

I remember hundreds of agonizing set ups and betrayals, and hearing when I was betrayed or wounded, "And such is the heart of man." Those doing this to me thought they were teaching me something of value, that would help me. And because of the vicious and political nature of the group, in one sense they were right; the naive get stepped on and wounded. I have known parents who tried to spare their children some of this out of love, but often they were overruled by other family members, who viewed these parents as "weak" and "unfit" to teach their child."

Morale

Svali: "Most of them are wounded, abused victims, who don't realize that it is possible to leave the group. There is a lot of discontent in the ranks, and there would be a mass exodus if the members believed it were really possible to get out (and live). Many of the trainers I knew (I know, wicked, torturing pedophiles) were NOT happy with what they did. They would whisper quietly, or give a look, to show that they disagreed with what they had to do. They would resignedly do their jobs, in the hope of advancement.

Know what one of the biggest carrots offered to those who advance up in the group is? That you don't have to hurt people anymore, and that you can't be abused (it's true: only those higher than you in the group can abuse you, so everyone wants to move up, where the pool of candidates becomes smaller). Of course, people can choose to abuse anyone beneath them, and that motivates.

The Illuminati are a very political and back stabbing group, a "dog eat dog" mentality; everyone wants to move up. These are NOT nice people and they use and manipulate others viciously. They cut their eyeteeth on status, power, and money.

They never openly disclose their agenda, or their cult activities, as often they are amnesic to them. These are well-respected, "Christian" appearing business leaders in the community. The image in the community is all-important to an Illuminist; they will do anything to maintain a normal, respected facade, and DESPISE exposure. ....

None of the Illuminists that I have known, had unkind, or evil appearing, persona in their daytime lives, although some were dysfunctional, such as being alcoholics. The dissociation that drives the Illuminists is their greatest cover ... Many, if not most, of these people are completely unaware of the great evil that they are involved in, during the night."

TV

Also, remember those studies that stated that "TV violence doesn't affect children's behaviour" years ago? Guess who funded them? They are a bunch of bullcrud. What a person watches DOES influence them, and this is well known by the behaviourists in the group. In fact, they know that TV is a tool that they purposely use to influence "the masses". It cannot create a total personality change in the average citizen, but it can desensitize us increasingly to violence, pornography and the occult, and influence the perceptions of young children.

Rock Music

I believe that Brittany Spears, Eminem, and others are being used by them to sing lyrics they like (ever notice that he wears a Neo-Nazi look and sings hate lyrics? This is NOT by chance). In fact, many of the top pop singers come from an internship with the "Mickey Mouse club" (yep, good old Walt the Illuminist's Empire) and I believe they are offered stardom in exchange for allegiance or mind control.

How many lyrics advocate suicide, violence, despair, or New Age spirituality in pop/rock today? Or just get a copy of the words and read (but be aware that many are possibly triggering to survivors of mind control).

Illuminati Weaknesses

Svali: "1. Their arrogance (I think I mentioned this before) is their weakness. These people think they are untouchable, and this could make them careless.

2. If by a miracle, enough people took this SERIOUSLY and started organizing in some way to stop the Illuminati take over, with prayer and God's guidance, perhaps they could be stopped. I hope so, with all of my heart.

3. Stopping pornography and child prostitution and drug smuggling and gun running would take out a huge chunk of their profits. Maybe they would slow down. But honestly, stopping the above would be as difficult as stopping the group."

Public's Denial Mechanism

Svali: The evidence is there, but in my opinion, the average person does NOT want to know, and even when confronted with it, will look the other way.

The Franklin case is a point. How much evidence has come out? Or the MK-Ultra documents that have been declassified, shown as real, and people ignore it.

Okay, I'll get off my soapbox. But I believe that the media that downplays ritual abuse is feeding into a deep need in the average person to NOT know the reality. In fact, how can a person face the fact of great evil in mankind, unless they have either a strong faith in God, or are faced with insurmountable evidence? We as human beings want to believe the BEST of our race, not the worst, IMHO.

I really don't believe people will do anything about the Illuminati even if they know. Sorry for the cynicism, but it is based on a lifetime of experience.

The Illuminists don't care who prints this stuff, or if they are "exposed" because they are counting on the majority not believing it, having done a pretty good job with a media blitz campaign (seen any articles in Newsweek or Time lately that addresses this other than as a laughable conspiracy theory? Guess who owns Time-Warner?).

I have heard them laughing about this very thing in leadership meetings five years ago, and I doubt their attitude has changed much since then. If people DID believe this, if action could be taken, then I would be very surprised and quite happy."

"Svali" is a registered nurse and freelance writer living in Texas.

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The European Union is a disaster and the UK should quit, says Gerard Batten, a European Parliament Member. RT met him in London.


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Astounding stuff.
One of the most fascinating and important articles of recent years.
The Nazi continuity networks will be fuming at this.

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Revealed: The secret report that shows how the Nazis planned a Fourth Reich ...in the EU
By Adam Lebor - 9th May 2009
The paper is aged and fragile, the typewritten letters slowly fading. But US Military Intelligence report EW-Pa 128 is as chilling now as the day it was written in November 1944.
The document, also known as the Red House Report, is a detailed account of a secret meeting at the Maison Rouge Hotel in Strasbourg on August 10, 1944. There, Nazi officials ordered an elite group of German industrialists to plan for Germany's post-war recovery, prepare for the Nazis' return to power and work for a 'strong German empire'. In other words: the Fourth Reich.


Plotters: SS chief Heinrich Himmler with Max Faust, engineer with Nazi-backed company I. G. Farben
Find this story at www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1179902/Revealed-The-secret-report-sh ows-Nazis-planned-Fourth-Reich--EU.html

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Nazi International: The Nazis' Postwar Plan to Control Finance, Conflict, Physics and Space
This is a continuation of Farrell's best-selling series of exposes on secret Nazi technology, Nazi survival, and post-war Nazi manipulation of technologies, economies and whole countries. This title includes: Pre-World War II Nazi partnerships in the USA, including those with the Bush family; The vast, and still-little-known, re-creation of Nazi Germany in South America with the help of Juan Peron, I G Farben and Martin Bormann; Nazi Germany's penetration of the Muslim world including Wilhelm Voss and Otto Skorzeny in Gamel Abdul Nasser's Egypt; Nazi plans to control space through their connection with NASA; The esoteric meaning of NASA Mission Patches; Plus final chapters on: Alchemy, Esotericism, The SS and the Unified Field Theory Craze; 1943-1945: Strange Events from the end of World War 11 and other Post-war Shenanigans.

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If you only read one history book in your life...make it this one, 30 Mar 2010
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The research is impeccable. The only slightly irritating thing is the occasional spelling error that was not picked up by the editors but it's a very minor thing and the content is so awesome that it's kind of irrelevant anyway.
I suggest you read this and also his other books. If you only read two I would suggest this one and the philosopher's stone.
Oh and PS: I am usually hyper-critical of most "esoteric" or "out-there" type of books because usually they are long on speculation and extrapolation and short on facts. This one is the opposite. Truly an outstanding work. If you want a companion to it read up Anthony Sutton and get his book Wall street and the Rise of Hitler. The connections dating from before WW2 and going in a continuum right up to the present day as well as the fact that the Nazis basically survived WW2 is revelational to put it mildly and explains exactly all the inconsistencies of the modern world.
Enjoy reading this book, but don't expect to come out of it the same. It will change your world-view permanently.

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AJP Taylor with Hugh Trevor-Roper
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Martin Borman — Nazi in Exile has also been posted as html by www.animalfarm.org



Martin Bormann — Nazi in Exile
Paul Manning, Underground Reich

by Paul Manning 1980, Lyle Stuart, Inc.
ISBN 0–8184-0309–8
Illustrated, 302 pages.
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See also: About Paul Manning

In late 2005, American popular culture paid homage to one of the greatest journalists of all time. In “Goodnight and Good Luck,” the life and work of CBS radio and television journalist Edward R. Murrow provided the material for a Hollywood feature film. Paul Manning was arguably the greatest of “Murrow’s Boys”—the group of skilled journalists Murrow ran in Europe during World War II. After training as a gunner and flying combat missions in both Europe and over Japan, Manning broadcast the surrenders of both Germany and Japan on the CBS radio network. After the war, Manning undertook an investigation of Hitler’s Deputy, Martin Bormann, and the postwar capital net­work he ran. Partially underwritten by CBS, the story of the Bormann organization proved too sensitive for the net­work to report.

A decisively powerful network of corporate entities run by hardened SS veterans, the Bormann group constitutes what one veteran banker termed “the greatest concentration of money power under a single control in history.” The founda­tion of the organization’s clout is money—lots and lots of money. Controlling German big business and, through invest­ments, much of the rest of the world’s economy, the organization was the repository for the stolen wealth of Europe, estimated by British intelligence to have totaled more than $180 billion by the end of 1943 (not including the money taken from Greece and the former Soviet Union, nor that taken after 1943.) [For more on the global economic signifi­cance of the Bormann group, see—among other programs—FTR#99.] This organization literally constitutes a postwar “Underground Reich” with (as discussed in FTR#155) a governing hierarchy composed of the sons and daughters of SS men, holding military ranks and titles from the Third Reich.

In addition to the enormous power deriving from its consummate economic clout, the Bormann group has wielded tremendous global influence through its intelligence and enforcement network. Administered by SS general Heinrich Mueller, the wartime head of the Gestapo, the Bormann group’s intelligence and security network was composed of some of the toughest, most capable veterans of the SS. In addition, the Bormann organization and Mueller’s security outfit have commanded the loyalty of the political, intelligence and military elements requisitioned by the Allies after the war. In that regard, the Bormann/Mueller operation could draw on the loyalties of the Reinhard Gehlen spy outfit that handled the CIA’s intelligence on the former Soviet Union and which ultimately became the intelligence service of the Federal Republic of Germany. In addition, Bormann and Mueller were the political masters of the numerous scien­tists recruited by the U.S. and other nations for their expertise during the Cold War, as well as the numerous Nazis brought into the U.S. under the auspices of the Crusade For Freedom. Those latter ultimately coalesced into a major element of the Republican Party. (For more about the Crusade for Freedom, see—among other programs—FTR#465.)

With its economic, political and espionage capabilities, the Bormann group embodies the triumph of the forces of National Socialism in the postwar period. Whereas the United States was the dominant element within the interna­tional cartel system prior to, and during, World War II, the Bormann group is the primary entity in the postwar global corporate economy.

The organization’s clout has successfully obscured its existence in the face of journalistic investigation. Compare the “official” fate of Bormann (supposedly killed at the end of the war) with demonstrable historical fact, as researched by Manning. Relating information from the FBI’s file on Bormann, Manning writes: “ . . .The file revealed that he had been banking under his own name from his office in Germany in Deutsche Bank of Buenos Aires since 1941; that he held one joint account with the Argentinian dictator Juan Peron, and on August 4, 5 and 14, 1967, had written checks on demand accounts in first National City Bank (Overseas Division) of New York, The Chase Manhattan Bank, and Manufac­turers Hanover Trust Co., all cleared through Deutsche Bank of Buenos Aires. . . .”
(Martin Bormann: Nazi in Exile, p. 205.)

FTR#305 is a condensation of some of the key segments of text from Manning’s landmark book. The story of the active suppression of Manning’s work on Bormann is contained in FTR#152 (side A). The moving tale of Manning’s heroic, decades-long investigation into the Bormann group is contained in a professional biography of Paul Manning that accompanies the text. That professional biography also recounts the professional retribution to which Manning was subjected in retaliation for his work (including the 1993 murder of his son Gerry.)

Readers interested the Manning text on Bormann should also investigate Gold Warriors by the Seagraves—the story of Japan’s postwar capital network and its profound relationship with the global economy.

Martin Borman — Nazi in Exile has also been posted as html by www.animalfarm.org

http://spitfirelist.com/books/martin-bormann-nazi-in-exile/

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Those all howling 'New World Order' are really referring to the 4th Reich Project, finalized on paper in 1944 by the militaro-industrials grouped around Hitler (same in Majestic 12). Hitler wrote his vision of the N.W.O. in 1928 (2 unique hand-written copies only).

Seems the GHW Bush's real name is SCHERFF (so Obama born in Kenya, is just remake kind). His father was Nicolas TESLA's 'trusted assistant'. Which would explain the SS's fantastic technology, stolen from and for all humanity.

Group of bankers (Rothschild's) behind Federal Reserve hold-up in 1913 is same behind european 'Treaty of Lisboa' (this time, every european central bank is being privatized!). It worked once, it'll work again, Nazi spirit, a philosophy. Germany may have surrounded but Nazis and Nazism are not dead. Hitler fled to Argentina (personal plane to Danemark then U-Boat 966) with 7 of his best. Eva joined after.

America is their (Rothschild & co) experimenting HQ since end of last war — In England-City the brains —” Argentina, their main refuge (by thousands).

The world is being led mainly by ex-SS under new identities. They have an approx. 40 year advance of technology in hands.

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MI5 files: Nazis planned 'Fourth Reich' in post-war Europe
The Nazis hatched plans for a “Fourth Reich” by planting sleeper cells in post-war Europe to destabilise governments, secret MI5 files show.
The plan was so the Nazi party could, in time, reappear in a suitable disguise and build up a fourth Reich Photo: AP
By Duncan Gardham, Security Correspondent 6:00AM BST 04 Apr 2011
The interrogation of a French collaborator revealed he had attended a conference near Munich in mid-April 1945, a few weeks before the end of the Second World War, presided over by an SS officer in full uniform in which the plans were discussed.
The agent, Olivier Mordrelle, was caught and interrogated in Italy three months later, and a report produced for MI5 that was marked “top secret,” describing his reliability as “good.”
The meeting, in a district called Deisenhofen, included 15 representatives from countries to the West of Germany, including Italy, and they were apparently told about a “great plan of promoting post-war unrest.”
In the report, released by the National Archives, Mordrelle told his interrogators: “The speaker then proceeded to relate how ample funds had already been planted in South America, mainly in the Argentine, and would become available for financing agents in due course.
“In order to have ‘bankers’ who could distribute this money, certain trustworthy key men had already been sent to live in Spain and Switzerland.”......[/b]

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MI5 files: Nazis planned 'Fourth Reich' in post-war Europe
The Nazis hatched plans for a “Fourth Reich” by planting sleeper cells in post-war Europe to destabilise governments, secret MI5 files show.
The plan was so the Nazi party could, in time, reappear in a suitable disguise and build up a fourth Reich Photo: AP
By Duncan Gardham, Security Correspondent 6:00AM BST 04 Apr 2011
The interrogation of a French collaborator revealed he had attended a conference near Munich in mid-April 1945, a few weeks before the end of the Second World War, presided over by an SS officer in full uniform in which the plans were discussed.
The agent, Olivier Mordrelle, was caught and interrogated in Italy three months later, and a report produced for MI5 that was marked “top secret,” describing his reliability as “good.”
The meeting, in a district called Deisenhofen, included 15 representatives from countries to the West of Germany, including Italy, and they were apparently told about a “great plan of promoting post-war unrest.”
In the report, released by the National Archives, Mordrelle told his interrogators: “The speaker then proceeded to relate how ample funds had already been planted in South America, mainly in the Argentine, and would become available for financing agents in due course.
“In order to have ‘bankers’ who could distribute this money, certain trustworthy key men had already been sent to live in Spain and Switzerland.”......

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Himmler's daughter aged 81: She works with neo-Nazis and helps SS officers evade justice

By Allan Hall - Daily Mail - 17th June 2011
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Gudrun Burwitz, the daughter of Heinrich Himmler, has become 'grandmother' to a new breed of female Nazis

Waving goodbye to her grandchildren, Gudrun Burwitz has the look of a woman ready to live the rest of her days in peace and quiet.

Instead, the 81-year-old daughter of Heinrich Himmler still works at a ruthless pace to keep the Nazi flame alive.

Mrs Burwitz has always nurtured the memory of her father, believing the man who ran the Gestapo, the SS and the extermination programme which murdered six million Jews, to be good and worthy.

And despite her advanced years, she continues to help the ageing remnants of the Nazi regime to evade justice.

As the leading figure in the shadowy and sinister support group Stille Hilfe –Silent Help – she helps bring succour and financial help to those still at large.

Said to have been formed in 1951 by a clique of high-ranking SS officers and right-wing clergy in Germany, it exists ‘to provide quiet but active assistance to those who lost their freedom during or after the war by capture, internment or similar circumstance and who need help to this day’.

Now it is in the hands of Mrs Burwitz. And her work has taken an even more sinister turn. She has become ‘grandmother’ to a new breed of female Nazis on the radical right.

Himmler and Gudrun in the war years. He ran the Gestapo, the S.S. and the extermination programme, which murdered six million Jews

These disciples of Hitler wear the traditional dirndl dresses of Bavaria and their hair in plaits.

Andrea Roepke, an expert on Mrs Burwitz, said: ‘The Silent Help is not only about former National Socialists. It collects money too for the neo-Nazi movement.’

Mrs Burwitz, who lives in Munich with her husband, is fighting to keep Klaas Carel Faber, 89, from being extradited back to his homeland from Germany.

The National Democratic Party (NPD) rally in Berlin demonstrating under the slogan 'Workers resist - then and now', in commemoration of the 58th Anniversary of the workers' revolt in East Germany of 17 June 1953

Gudrun Burwitz is fighting to keep Dutchman Klaas Carel Faber (above), 89, from being extradited back to his homeland from Germany

The Dutchman served with the SS in Holland where he murdered defenceless Jews in cold blood.

And her latest client is Soren Kamm, a Danish SS officer wanted in his homeland for murder in wartime.

Kamm, 90, is wanted in conjunction with several murders, including the execution of newspaper editor Carl Henrik Clemmensen in Copenhagen.

In 1946, a Danish court sentenced one of Kamm’s associates, Flemming Helweg-Larsen, to death in the same case and citing the same evidence material.

Helweg-Larsen was executed the same year.

Germany has refused to act on an EU extradition warrant although Kamm has admitted his guilt in a TV interview.

Mrs Burwitz, the ‘Princess of Nazism,’ as one historian called her, lives in a maisonette in the Munich suburb of Furstenried with her husband Wolf-Dieter.

‘I never talk about my work,’ she told the Mail. ‘I just do what I can when I can.’

An intelligence official said: ‘She is over 80 but pin sharp. She likes it if you think of her as some Mrs Doubtfire figure but that is not the case.’


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We were told Hitler's personal assistant Martin Bormann died in the ruins of Berlin. News stories were circulate throughout Western Europe that hsi remains had been found. Those news stories were fabricated to cover his escape to South America.
British Army General and NAZI hunter IAN BELL was an Eyewitness to Martin Bormann's Escape from Europe to South America.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDGdsS5D67w

Germans who tried to assassinate hitler in July 1944 use Hitler's escape boat to make their way across the North Atlantic to a rendezvous in Cape Cod.

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