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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was just making an observation that he was a spastic?


Nice turn of phrase.

So, er, given the amount of people who post here, what do you reckon the odds are one or two might be disabled. I take it you wouldn't like them?

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: NOt only Bliar... Reply with quote

but the company which controlled the computerised electronic voting machines belongs to ...Kinnock.

So the hand of the EU is there as well guiding us into ...democracy.

After all isn't that what the war in Iraq is about?

Getting the vote!!!
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No

But equally Banish you can leave off the paranoia and silly chibes like clone

I can confirm that none of the posters mentioned use the same IP address, but then again I'm informed this means nothing anyway since those who know how can merely route themselves through a different IP address.

So what people need to know and understand is that since anyone can register here and remain anonymous then of course multiple accounts are a possibility. It is also possible that some of the forum users will not be who or what they claim to be and may even be agents of the state or other nefarious agencies or spoliers or whatever.

Know it, accept it and then realise why this forum could never be representative of any campaign or be an effective platform for campaign planning. It is what it is. A public space to discuss 9/11 and related topics. It serves a useful function up to a point. For a private space where known named campaigners meet, consider joining the campaign's private forum or form your own networks. At least you will know who you are talking with.

Oh and one last thing. Let go of the fear. In case it has escaped people's attention, a paranoid, fragmented, disempowered populace is exactly what the PTB are trying to engender.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stelios69 wrote:
Pincher wrote:


Why? Because right wing libertarians hate New Labour .


New Labour is the MOST right wing grouping since Adolf Hitler
you know that pincher because you are pretty right wing too


All too rarely these days something crops up which re-enforces my delusion that a politics/philosphy joint major wasn't a complete waste of time after all.

If we were to construct a syllogism that reflects your 'it takes one to know one' dictum, Stelios, it might run something like this:

All swans are white,
this bird is white,
therefore it must be a swan...

Now, let's rush out of the Logic 101 lecture theatre and grab a chair at the Politics 102 seminar. The topic under review this week is 'Are all right wing governments the same?' Well er no actually. There are at least four archetypes of 'right wing' government. Allow me to summarise them thus:

a) Democatic Nationalism - such administrations can be found in either newly independent or post imperial states. They often appeal to a common cultural heritage and more often than not are engaged in long term territorial disputes.

b) Military dictatorhsips or 'juntas' that seize power by force from civilian administrations (this 'intervention' is popularly known as the 'coup d'etat'). The level of violence used is not necessarily proportionate to the resistance encountered. Such regimes are often inaccurately labelled 'fascist' because of their deeply repressive nature.

c) Fascism - a political system based on centralised authoritarian leadership supported by a localised para military base, national/cultural assertiveness, the subordination of enterprise and the individual to the state and, finally, class unity.

d) Classical liberalism (or 'laissez faire capitalism) - such governments are commited to free enterprise, non intervention in the markets (except, in theory at least, to prevent monopolies and cartels) and both low taxation and public expenditure.

It is quite clear that New Labour does not fit comfortably into any of the above categories. So quite how you can describe our current bureaucracy as the most right wing since Adolf Hitler (just to describe the current government as 'centrist' is more than a little elastic) is beyond your average Falangist.

But all of this is academic. The term 'right wing' is vague and confusing. Many fascist regimes have pursued left-of-centre economic policies and many administrations committed to right wing economic reforms have had also been known for their support of parliament, personal liberty and the rule of law.

So, there are several worse things to feel offended by than just being called 'right wing'. In fact, sometimes, I even wear this supposedly uber insult as a badge of honour - particularly when it is lobbed by some Stalinist or Trostkyist scumbag.

And there are a lot of them about you know, Stelios.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rodin wrote:
Can I say Banish is a twat on this forum?


Can I say Rodin is a spastic on this forum?

PS Dogsmilk You forgot a few.

Stick "nonesance" into Google seach bar! There are 2 pages of links, eleven posts in total. Not many for the common spelling mistake that we are told.

Second and third link, link here. Fourth links to channel4 forum another to a jew-baiter site.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot believe this thread has been allowed to degrade into a joke? Rolling Eyes

It started off as a valid political conversation regarding the possibility of a 'Florida-style' fix in the Scottish elections only to be hijacked by fools.

Abominable! (... I hope I spelt that correctly?)
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bongo wrote:
I cannot believe this thread has been allowed to degrade into a joke? Rolling Eyes

It started off as a valid political conversation regarding the possibility of a 'Florida-style' fix in the Scottish elections only to be hijacked by fools.

Abominable! (... I hope I spelt that correctly?)


If fix was in it was pisspoor joke cf Bush v anyone really. SNP won, unlike MU

Or am I missing something?

Apart from English weather... Smile

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banish wrote:
rodin wrote:
Can I say Banish is a twat on this forum?


Can I say Rodin is a spastic on this forum?

PS Dogsmilk You forgot a few.

Stick "nonesance" into Google seach bar! There are 2 pages of links, eleven posts in total. Not many for the common spelling mistake that we are told.

Second and third link, link here. Fourth links to channel4 forum another to a jew-baiter site.


Honestly what a HOOT

Hondootedly the most Idiosyncratic forum onda web, where I am not allowed to call B-nish for what he is yet he can Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Stealing democracy Reply with quote

This is, in fact, a serious issue. Our democracy is being stolen before our very eyes. It happened in the US. It happened in Mexico and it has been happening in Italy, France and the UK. Yes, paper-less computer voting was used in France – the country that rejected the EU constitution because it undermines social protection and now, apparently, voted for a President who wants to get rid of that protection. Anything else odd? Well, 85% of people voting yet opinion polls said a third of the electorate hadn’t made up their minds who they’d vote for before the first vote. Anyting else? The obvious bias of the media – which had a Channel 4 reporter shaking Sarkozy’s hand and kissing one of his campaigners. Except, they’re a bit more sophisticated in France since they rigged the opinion poll as well.

Somebody wanted Sarki in badly. We’re in for a bad time.

P.S. the powers that be also have plans for Blair. This is why he was given Northern Ireland to make his standing down from office look good.


This from former NSA official Wayne Masden, http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
May 8, 2007 -- Neo-con election engineering: the "new math":

France: Nicolas Sarkozy 53% Segolene Royal 47%

Mexico: Felipe Calderon 35.88% Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador 35.31%

USA: George W. Bush 50.7% John Kerry 48.3%

Peru: Alan Garcia 53.2% Ollanta Humala 46.8%

Costa Rica: Oscar Arias 40.5% Otton Solis 40.2%

Colombia: Alvaro Uribe 62% Carlos Gaviria/Horacio Serpa 34% (Only 43% of eligible voters cast ballots)

Italy: Romano Prodi 49.81% Silvio Berlusconi 49.74% (Karl Rove and other manipulators failed to take into account the votes of Italians voting abroad, pre-election polls showed Prodi leading 52% to 47%)

Scotland Alexander Salmond (SNP) 37% Jack McConnell (Labor) 36.2% (100,000 spoiled ballots in pro-SNP constituencies)

Wales Rhodri Morgan (Labor) 43.3% Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru)/Michael German (Liberal Democrat) 35%

Canada: Stephen Harper 36.2% Paul Martin (Liberal) 30.17%/Jack Layton (NDP) 17.44%

Greece: Kostas Karamanlis 45.4% George Papandreou 40.5%

Denmark: Andres Fogh Rasmussen and right 52.5% Mogens Lykketoft and left 43.4%

USA: George W. Bush 47.9% Al Gore 48.4%

Florida: George W. Bush 48.850% Al Gore 48.841%

Virginia: Bob McDonnell (R.) 49.96% Creigh Deeds (D.) 49.95% (Attorney General)

Solution: Destroy the machines and the companies that produce and sell them.



May 7, 2007 -- Nicolas Sarkozy (whom are French intelligence sources have referred to a the "little French Hitler") will govern France with the help of two Silvio Berlusconi- and Rupert Murdoch-like billionaire neo-con French media moguls, Martin Bouygues and Arnaud Lagardere. Bouygues owns the TF1 television channel, which can be expected to act as Sarkozy's own version of the U.S. Republican Party's Fox News Channel. Lagardere's media group owns the Europe 1 radio network, Paris Match, several French regional newspapers, and is a major stakeholder in the French television network Canal+. Sarkozy is known to censor any news reports that are unfavorable to him and pressure publishers and editors to fire wayward journalists. With much of the French media in his pocket, expect the Franco-Hungarian Sarkozy to institute a new era of Janos Kadarist-style censorship in his nation.

The French election, from the start, has been plagued by election fraud -- bogus polling data, false exit polls, and electronic voting machine and machine counting irregularities were hallmarks of the first presidential election round. ES&S's I-Votronic machines were used in both elections across France. Only Sarkozy's party was supportive of the machines, with all the other political parties calling for a moratorium on their use. Turnout in the French election was 85 percent. With large turnouts historically favoring the left in France, the exit polling and actual polling were at odds with the turnout -- an indication of massive election fraud.

Similar polling irregularities were experienced in recent elections in Scotland, Wales, and England. In Scotland, 100,000 ballots, thought to mostly be cast for the pro-independence Scottish National Party, were declared "spoiled" in Scotland's election. That "glitch" cost the Scottish Nationalists a larger majority in the Scottish Parliament. Irregularities in Wales and England similarly affected larger margins for Welsh and Cornish nationalists. As the Bretons and Corsicans will soon discover with Sarkozy, regional nationalism is anathema to the globalist neo-con agenda, particularly the international bankers who want strong centralized control and minimal devolution of power to local and regional governments.

The electoral malfeasance of neo-cons in manipulating elections in France, Britain, Canada, the United States, Italy, Australia, Peru, Costa Rica, Mexico, and other countries will remain a problem until the people, acting through the power of progressive, anti-globalist, and anti-capitalist governments, seize control, via whatever means necessary, of the media, the voting and vote counting process, and the opinion polling mechanisms.


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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banish wrote:
rodin wrote:
Can I say Banish is a twat on this forum?


Can I say Rodin is a spastic on this forum?

PS Dogsmilk You forgot a few.

Stick "nonesance" into Google seach bar! There are 2 pages of links, eleven posts in total. Not many for the common spelling mistake that we are told.

Second and third link, link here. Fourth links to channel4 forum another to a jew-baiter site.


how can you use the word 'spastic' do you realise how offensive that is?

its no differant to racism as far as im concerned, one is a jibe at skin colour one is a jibe at metal illness/disabled. both are disgusting and show what you are.

if it was a racists jibe you'd be pulled up instantly, however i fail to see how this word is differant, its equally as bad.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I cannot believe this thread has been allowed to degrade into a joke?

It started off as a valid political conversation regarding the possibility of a 'Florida-style' fix in the Scottish elections only to be hijacked by fools.

Abominable! (... I hope I spelt that correctly?)


Yes you did, Bongo but I wouldn'tve cared if you hadn't. Yeah these pr!cks p!iss me off too. Seems there isn't a Delete facility on this Board as there is on some others where a Thread initiator can delete comments.

If there were I wouldn't have hesitated to delete all the childish comments (and I mean the childish ones, not the ones I might disagree with).

Editors, can you banish Banish from this thread for consistent trolling?

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was a good post InsideJob, the only thing you got wrong, which has probably come to light after your post is that it was not 100,000 ballots in pro-SNP constituencies... It is now numbered at 140,000 ballots in pro-SNP constituencies! Shocked

Since the SNP were leading the polls from Labour by anything from 5% to 10% throughout the last 2 months of the campaign, it could well be that a large number of these ballots were from SNP supporters, which under the PR system could have increased the SNP's regional list MSP's. Confused

I now hear that Labour are attempting to challenge a couple of results in law courts???.... so let me get this straight... The Labour administration in Scotland organised and decided upon the method of the election (ie holding National and Council ballots at the same time under different voting methods) and now they (Labour) want to challenge it in court?

I wonder if these Labour candidates will testify against their own party's incompetence? Wink
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: NOt only Bliar... Reply with quote

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but the company which controlled the computerised electronic voting machines belongs to ...Kinnock.

So the hand of the EU is there as well guiding us into ...democracy.

After all isn't that what the war in Iraq is about?

Getting the vote!!!


Neil Kinnock director of electronic voting company in Scotland fiasco

The stench of nepotism and election fixing is getting stronger and more pungent as it emerged last night that one of the directors of the company DRS, responsible for the electronic voting systems and postal vote counting machines is non other than Neil Kinnock.

One of Tony Blair’s best mates, a guru to the prime minister, Kinnock was formerly a European Commissioner. Now a Labour Peer, he was hired by the Milton Keynes-based company in 2005. A year later, DRS won the lucrative contract with the then Labour-run Scottish Executive to provide electronic counting machines for both Scottish parliament and local elections.

DRS, which last year had sales of £16million, has also been involved in elections for the Mayor of London and the European Parliament, which were hit by delays.

Lord Kinnock stepped down from his EU job in 2004 but his wife Glenys remains a member of the Brussels Parliament. (source)

Angus MacNeil, MP for the Scottish Nationalists, who narrowly beat Labour into second place last week, promised his party would hold a second separate inquiry into the circumstances surrounding the award of the contract.

A spokesman for DRS Data Services said: "There was a blockage at the end of the counting process that stopped the consolidation of the data.

Independent analyses, by experts neither paid by nor reporting to voting machine vendors, have discovered many areas for improvement in today’s technologies, yet most vendors systematically try to prevent such analyses.


Perhaps it is time for the DRS equipment used in Scotland to undergo forensic testing to ensure that the algorithms used are legal and have not been tampered with in any way, especially following the well documented cases in the US. here and here (scroll down for references).

One thing that needs to be done immediately, a Judge needs to order ALL electronic voting data be seized and secured, so that it can be examined at a later date should that be necessary.

Imagine this, after the election, someone discovers rogue software in the voting machines that flipped some votes from A to B. Or someone gets caught vote tampering -- changing the data on electronic memory cards. The problem is that the original data is lost forever; all we have is the hacked vote.

Remember, the results in Scotland were not as bad for Labour as the media had been telling us, nor what the election experts nor the political pundits and betting industry had predicted. Could they all have been so wrong. The question is, did Labour fix the machines to ensure their losses were only measured ones.?

The whole fiasco stinks….

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banish wrote:
I was just making an observation that he was a spastic? What's the difference?

To the clone poster ............


Banish wrote:
Why do I bother with group *? I'll never know. I was hoping that maybe that there were some real truth seekers out there, not a bunch of * with the collective IQ of wallpaper.


Banish wrote:
The clone resorts to playground tactics.


Banish wrote:
Can I say Rodin is a spastic on this forum?


Banish, final warning. Be respectful and polite, lay off the silly name calling or you will be banished. You have successfully derailed an interesting thread. Further disruption will not be tolerated
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't help thinking that we are addicted to high tech mechanisms. The problem with electronic voting, or electronic counting of ballots, is that people get replaced by machines. Machines are not trusted; neither are people, but at least if voting takes place by placing Xs on ballot papers and the papers are stored and counted by humans, the possibility of recounting when anomalies are spotted is always there. If we rely on computers to work it all out, few will ever know if some programmer has not put a glitch into the system to favour one party or another.

In classical Athens, didn't they vote by putting shells into jars? Wouldn't such low tech systems command more respect from the public and probably save money too?
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Banish wrote:
Can I say Rodin is a spastic on this forum?


My cousin is a spastic: she suffers from cerebral palsey. I find the use of her medical condition as a term of abuse to be particularly offensive to intelligent people who are disabled in this way.

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:03 am    Post subject: Scotland to remain Corrupt Britannia's Colony?[/ Reply with quote

Scotland to remain Corrupt Britannia's Colony?



If what we are now seeing turns out to have been a coup against democracy (and how will we ever know the truth?) surreptitiously planned and intended to look like a c***-up then that must be seen by the rest of the world as proof of how all pretence of freedom and democracy has finally been discarded by our multinational capitalist rulers to be replaced by a planetary, Orwellian dystopia

Read the rest of this article at http://urlsnip.com/013905

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The big problem with your theory, Venceremos, is that the spooks, mandarins and grandees wanted the SNP to knock seven bells out of New Labour.

Establishment thinking on Scotland is that something approaching full independence is necessary to allow the 'Grand Project' to proceed:
a generation of Tory rule. Currently, Scotland returns too many NuLab MP's to allow that to happen.

What the establishment want is an independent administration in Scotland that mirrors the English administration ie a CONSERVATIVE one. But wanting and getting are, as we know, two completely different things. There's also the small matter of Scottish voting intentions to consider (only one in three of the electorate actually wants full independence).

So if there were voting irregularities in last week's poll (and remember BOTH SNP and NuLab claim they were victims of fraud) the most likely explanation at this point is that they were locally arranged (like the postal frauds in Birmingham) rather than centrally inspired (like Florida's dimpled chads).
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Establishment thinking on Scotland is that something approaching full independence is necessary to allow the 'Grand Project' to proceed:

... this statement seems very subjective, unless you can provide a source for your claim.

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The big problem with your theory, Venceremos, is that the spooks, mandarins and grandees wanted the SNP to knock seven bells out of New Labour.
... again this claim in only your opinion Pincher, you should not make random claims with no sources for your statements.

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What the establishment want is an independent administration in Scotland that mirrors the English administration ie a CONSERVATIVE one. But wanting and getting are, as we know, two completely different things. There's also the small matter of Scottish voting intentions to consider (only one in three of the electorate actually wants full independence).

...I will put the above rambling down to it being 2:17am when you wrote it...I hope you went to bed shortly after this. Wink
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The big problem with your theory, Venceremos, is that the spooks, mandarins and grandees wanted the SNP to knock seven bells out of New Labour.


Where do you get this drivel from. Pincher, you are a disinformationist, par excellence. Do they pay you for this or is it just a lonely man's hobby?

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So if there were voting irregularities in last week's poll (and remember BOTH SNP and NuLab claim they were victims of fraud) the most likely explanation at this point is that they were locally arranged (like the postal frauds in Birmingham) rather than centrally inspired (like Florida's dimpled chads).


Clearly you didn't read the rest of the article. I put the spotlight on Douglas Alexander, Whitehall's man in Edinburgh who plays what one would imagine (incorrectly as it turns out to be) a defunct role. The continued existence of the Scottish Office makes a mockery of the Scottish Parliament which, with the rest of so-called-devolution is totally phony.

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is, in fact, a serious issue. Our democracy is being stolen before our very eyes.


Help stamp out e-voting/counting...

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http://www.openrightsgroup.org/e-voting-main/

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I can't help thinking that we are addicted to high tech mechanisms. The problem with electronic voting, or electronic counting of ballots, is that people get replaced by machines. Machines are not trusted; neither are people, but at least if voting takes place by placing Xs on ballot papers and the papers are stored and counted by humans, the possibility of recounting when anomalies are spotted is always there. If we rely on computers to work it all out, few will ever know if some programmer has not put a glitch into the system to favour one party or another.

In classical Athens, didn't they vote by putting shells into jars? Wouldn't such low tech systems command more respect from the public and probably save money too?

Tesco have installed Electronic DIY tills in my local store soon we will have no reason for social skills, we'll become the slave robots of our masters Sad I'm beginning to think this was happening during the time George Orwell wrote his book, The only thing I'd say that is different is that its not compulsory 2 mins of hate on the box but rather optional 2 mins of peace.

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The big problem with your theory, Venceremos, is that the spooks, mandarins and grandees wanted the SNP to knock seven bells out of New Labour.


Where do you get this drivel from. Pincher, you are a disinformationist, par excellence. Do they pay you for this or is it just a lonely man's hobby?

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So if there were voting irregularities in last week's poll (and remember BOTH SNP and NuLab claim they were victims of fraud) the most likely explanation at this point is that they were locally arranged (like the postal frauds in Birmingham) rather than centrally inspired (like Florida's dimpled chads).


Clearly you didn't read the rest of the article. I put the spotlight on Douglas Alexander, Whitehall's man in Edinburgh who plays what one would imagine (incorrectly as it turns out to be) a defunct role. The continued existence of the Scottish Office makes a mockery of the Scottish Parliament which, with the rest of so-called-devolution is totally phony.


The way that you have expressed yourself in that sentence is demonstrable proof you do not have a clue about what is going on, Venceremos.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Pincher is as Pincher Does Reply with quote

Pincher, is your outlook on life as pinched as your username suggests? Who are you to speak with so much authority on the mandarins, spooks and ruling classes?

What input do you have to them that you will not reveal to us?

What exactly IS going on, in Pincher's view of the world?

Or are you here simply to pinch and troll?

If you cannot understand the Scottish Office to be the last outpost of English colonial rule in Edinburgh (described as such by Tory Malcolm Rifkind many years ago) then you understand nada.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently the design of the ballot papers were changed at the two biggest constituencies Edinburgh and Glasgow after the nominations closed and papers had been sent out to people showing them how to vote.

anyway more on BBC website.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6656181.stm
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:17 am    Post subject: Re: Pincher is as Pincher Does Reply with quote

venceremos wrote:
Pincher, is your outlook on life as pinched as your username suggests? Who are you to speak with so much authority on the mandarins, spooks and ruling classes?

What input do you have to them that you will not reveal to us?

What exactly IS going on, in Pincher's view of the world?

Or are you here simply to pinch and troll?

If you cannot understand the Scottish Office to be the last outpost of English colonial rule in Edinburgh (described as such by Tory Malcolm Rifkind many years ago) then you understand nada.


Don't get the significance of my name do you?

But...could this be your Rumpelstiltskin moment Venceremos?
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the opinion polls showed SNP 10% ahead of New Labour.
But after Neil Kinnock,s vote rigging the SNP only got 1 seat more than Labour and not enough to form an administration.

The election should be held again - one person one vote and counted by hand not by Neil Kinnocks computer.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Worldwide Electoral Theft Reply with quote

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All the opinion polls showed SNP 10% ahead of New Labour.
But after Neil Kinnock,s vote rigging the SNP only got 1 seat more than Labour and not enough to form an administration.

The election should be held again - one person one vote and counted by hand not by Neil Kinnocks computer.




You are absolutely right. This election should have been annulled. If this had happened in a Third World country or in eastern Europe both Blair and bush would have been screaming Foul and demanding a re-election.

But, as always, there's one law for the capitalist West and another for the rest of the world.

Election fraud, it seems, is now endemic and going on everywhere and guess who benefits from it, the right-wing parties!

http://urlsnip.com/812831

Along with the Blueprint for a New American Century, meant to grab all the planet's resources for Amerikka, the militarisation of western cultures, what we are seeing is massive electoral theft, starting with the neocons' theft of two US presidential elections.

Theft fits in perfectly with the neocon 'kiss my ass' philosophy to governance through the Big Lie, so enthusiastically adopted by Bliar and Nu Labor (Cameron's version yet to come).

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Pincher is as Pincher does Reply with quote

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Pincher is noted for his strong support for the work of the intelligence agencies and for Conservative politics. He was at one point close to Peter Wright who he knew suspected Harold Wilson of having been a Soviet agent, and according to the biography of Wilson written by Ben Pimlott, Pincher was trying to get information from Wright so that he could accuse Wilson in public.

The historian E. P. Thompson described Pincher as "a kind of official urinal in which, side by side, high officials of MI5 and MI6, Sea Lords, Permanent Under-Secretaries, nuclear scientists, Lord Wigg, and others, stand patiently leaking in the public interest". (from Wikipedia)


So you're emulating a urinal?

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the BBC today...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6663929.stm
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The number of spoilt ballot papers in Scotland's council elections was far fewer than in the parliamentary vote, BBC Scotland can reveal.
Figures show that about 45,700 local government votes were rejected compared to 140,000 in the Holyrood poll.

....So, it appears that they actually targetted the parlimentary votes in their rigging scandal? I guess they were not too concerned with the council votes, as it is the government that holds the real power!

Just as well Alex Salmond got voted in as first minister of Scotland today (Celebration time for a small victory me thinks!!! Wink )...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6659531.stm
... Looks like the evil ones failed... just for once!... in their game plan! Laughing
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