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Loose Change setup to be debunked!

 
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:26 pm    Post subject: Loose Change setup to be debunked! Reply with quote

“Exactly what Hufschmid said - they promoted this particular video to discredit it.

Avery and his friends are 3 naive young kids who had been chosen and supplied ideas by Phil Jayhan and Deb Simon, what they explicitely confessed in interview with Hufschmid.”

http://www.erichufschmid.net/Avery-Rowe-Bermas-Hufschmid-phonecall.htm l

Video of debunk: http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=103

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A debunking equivalent to Denis Healy's "being ravaged by a dead sheep."

The ring must be a magic one that changes the size of his nose and ears to boot.
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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, this is a small change debunking bollox. What a * thing to pick up on, in such an obviouly phony video with such a non-lookalike lookalike
If it would make him feel happier, I'll remember to copy and hand out Painful Deceptions, which is Erics rather good film and doesn't feature his apparently Zionist-centred concerns at the moment, and also its kind of theory-based twin with lots of rather good information and assertions, - 9/11 the greatest lie ever sold. I've no problems handing them out
What's the guy getting so paranoid over?
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brian wrote:
The ring must be a magic one that changes the size of his nose and ears to boot.


The pictures height to width ratio is obviously skewed for that piece of "evidence". Image mirroring could explain the left vs. right issue.

Both yet again easily debunked, pointless and filling space that Israel's involvement (which is much more convincing and important) could have been.

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What's the guy getting so paranoid over?


Put bluntly: he makes the point that Israeli involvement is actively suppressed even in alternative media. He is being blacklisted from support for telling the hardcore truth.

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stopped looking at Hufschmid's material as I started to feel sick.

I do not think it is worthy of space in this forum.

Clearly he needs help.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewwatson wrote:
I stopped looking at Hufschmid's material as I started to feel sick.

I do not think it is worthy of space in this forum.

Clearly he needs help.


I concur. This is pointless and negative information.

Im also interested in what 'madthumbs' point actually is? Madthumbs are you still saying that it is 'too late for the Venezuelan Government to proceed with investigations into 9/11'?

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hufschmid is a liability to the movement. He isnt well. He sounds completely paranoid in this intervew with the makers of 'Loose Change 2'.
It's almost like he has had some sort of breakdown because 'Loose Change 2' is slightly more popular than the dvd he made. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paradise estate wrote:
Hufschmid is a liability to the movement. He isnt well.


Yes. The first 9/11 documentary I saw was his 'Painful Deceptions'. I emailed EH thanking him and got into a short exchange of messages. I told him that his ideas about Paul McCartney being a 'doppleganger'(if that's how you spell it) discredited his excellent 9/11 work. He wouldn't have it.
When, more recently I used 'Loose Change 2' and an Alex Jones excerpt on my own website he basically said they couldn't be trusted and shouldn't be promoted.
It's really sad because I think he broke his own heart trying to get 9/11 material taken seriously and the experience has damaged him. I remember one of his comments..."It isn't that people don't know about 9/11, it's that when you tell them they just don't care.."
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loose change rocks. Unlike any of the other documentaries I have seen.

It isn't perfect but so what? There is some very good stuff in there and it gets across effectively.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrJazzz wrote:
Loose change rocks. Unlike any of the other documentaries I have seen.

It isn't perfect but so what? There is some very good stuff in there and it gets across effectively.


G. Edward Griffin - A World Without Cancer - The Story Of Vitamin B17 rocks

When someone can take a documentary like Loose Change that's heralded as the best 911 documentary and easily make mincemeat of some of it's points it will make people think twice. Most people aren't like us and spend our lives talking about it.

The lame disinformation agent styled attacks against Hufschmid only appear to validate him.

I see the same disinfo techniques used in most health forums when someone presents a real cure for something (that I know works).

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I listened to about 15 minutes of the phone conversation between Eric and the Loose Change lads - it was a good, honest exchange and I really couldn't see what Eric was making such a fuss about. (He even says "I left the same things out of my video as you did!")

He seems to have gotten himself into a bit of a state and I could see his logic, I didn't really think he was focusing on the main issue - only a minority of people know about 9/11 Truth and that, as most if not all here will agree, is the most important issue.

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just watched the video 'debunking' which just takes one claim about the gold ring - I would say this is small potatoes. It's a rather secondary point to the fact that the guy in the confession video looks absolutely nothing like Osama and it is crystal clear!
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. I don't think Eric is doing himself any favours and the Loose Change guys are coming across as very honest and open truth-seekers.

Wasn't Eric moaning about Charlie Sheen? I mean.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew Johnson wrote:
only a minority of people know about 9/11 Truth and that, as most if not all here will agree, is the most important issue.


Bush was setup to take the fall for it. It's not him that the mainstream and alternative news is protecting.

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I’m an American who’s getting the feeling that the interests of my country are becoming secondary to the interests of another nation

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kbo234 wrote:

It's really sad because I think he broke his own heart trying to get 9/11 material taken seriously and the experience has damaged him. I remember one of his comments..."It isn't that people don't know about 9/11, it's that when you tell them they just don't care.."


That is a wonderful thing he said and I am sure it echoes a lot of our experiences when informing people about the 9/11 truth. Ive been inspired by Eric's quote to use it in my sig. So no hard feelings, Eric. Youve gone barmy for a bit, that's all. chill out, go and have a lie down, bruv. Smile

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