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Operation Crevice - cops all over 'bombers' year before 7/7

 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Operation Crevice - cops all over 'bombers' year before 7/7 Reply with quote

So Mi5 already had audio recordings of Khan before 7/7. Would have come in handy when constructing his 'confession tape'.

London Intel: Into the 'Crevice'

Feb. 13, 2006 issue - British authorities had at least two of the terrorists who bombed London last July 7 under surveillance in 2004. In an official document examined by NEWSWEEK, a British judge reports that U.K. investigators had pictures and voice recordings of Mohammed Siddique Khan—believed to have been the plot leader—and another suicide bomber, Shahzad Tanweer, meeting several times in February and March 2004 with suspects in an earlier, separate terror plot that U.K. authorities investigated under the code name Operation Crevice. The evidence includes recordings of Khan in a car driven by one Crevice suspect, and evidence showing Khan and Tanweer getting out of a Crevice suspect's car. British media have made only limited references to the evidence because a trial of Crevice suspects is pending, and pretrial publicity is restricted under U.K. law.

After July 7, investigators claimed the four suspected suicide bombers were previously unknown to British intel. But as the investigation evolved, authorities quietly made it known that antiterror investigators, presumably working for the secret counterintelligence agency M.I.5, had run across Khan and Tanweer; British authorities decided at the time that they weren't dangerous enough for continuing surveillance. U.S. law-enforcement officials, who asked not to be named because the investigation continues, told NEWSWEEK the name of a third bomber, Germaine Lindsay, also came up tangentially in Crevice. British authorities initially denied they had heard of him before July 7 but now concede they may have. A U.K. official said Tony Blair's government wouldn't comment for legal reasons.

—Mark Hosenball

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Crevice


http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22operation+crevice%22&meta=

March 30, 2004
How surveillance ensnared enemy within
Times Online - Britain

By Stewart Tendler and Daniel McGrory
Operation Crevice led to anti-terrorist raids across London's suburbs.

ANTI-TERRORIST officers had nervously kept their secret for weeks: how close Britain was to a devastating bomb attack. Only a handful of senior figures were trusted with the knowledge that a group of young Britons from half a dozen suburbs around London were finalising their plans to strike.
http://www.ladlass.com/intel/archives/006824.html

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The focus of the inquiry suddenly changed with a string of intercepted telephone calls inquiring about renting space in storage warehouses. These anonymous, prefabricated buildings are the perfect hiding place. They are large enough to store vehicles and, as witnessed yesterday, a builder?s sack full of industrial- strength fertiliser, without anybody paying much attention.

There are a number of Asian-owned building firms that use the Access storage centre in Hanwell where the fertiliser was found, so the sight of young men lugging a 6ft bag of what looked like builders? materials was not out of the ordinary.

The dilemma for the security authorities was when to move in. Operation Crevice differed from previous terrorist surveillance operations in that the men being watched were spread so widely around London and the Home Counties.

Detectives were understandably guarded about why they chose yesterday to make their move. One suggestion is that they intercepted a telephone call which indicated that the half tonne of fertiliser was about to be moved
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:49 pm    Post subject: Muddy(ing the) Waters Reply with quote

Thanks for highlighting this info Ally.

Searching for Operation Crevice on clusty.com, I found this article from the Scotsman Online, dated 14th July 2005 . Excepts below:

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Security services 'failed to arrest bomber last year'
JAMES KIRKUP Last updated: 14-Jul-05 23:19 GMT

INTELLIGENCE officials are urgently investigating the possibility that one of the London suicide bombers could have slipped through the net of a major counter-terrorism operation last year.

Mohammed Sadique Khan, a 30-year-old teaching assistant who died in the Edgware Road blast last Thursday, was yesterday named as one of the targets who escaped an anti-terrorist swoop mounted last March in southern England and North America.

The worrying suggestion that Khan could have been stopped before the attacks that killed 53 people came as police warned that it could be "months" before they find the terrorists who co-ordinated, supplied and inspired Britain's first suicide bomb attacks.

<snip>

Ministers and intelligence chiefs have admitted that last week's attacks came as complete surprise to the security services, suggesting that the four bombers had been "lilywhites" or "clean skins" - people who were previously completely unknown to anti-terrorism officials.

However, that has been called into question by French security sources.

Yesterday, the French daily Libération reported that Khan, the oldest of the London bombers, had been one of the targets of last year's operation, but had "escaped".

The paper quoted a senior French police official as saying that Khan had subsequently been on a Scotland Yard "target list" for 15 months, but under the name "Mohammed Kayoun Khan" with a different date of birth.

The report follows statements on Wednesday from Nicholas Sarkozy, the French interior minister, that "a part of the team" behind the London blasts had been the subject of a counter-terrorism operation last spring.

That remark appears to refer to Operation Crevice, a string of raids last 31 March that led to several men being arrested and charged under the Terrorism Act 2000.

British officials yesterday publicly refused to confirm or deny the French report, but privately some admit that there is evidence that Khan had been in contact with one of the men arrested last year.

The circumstances of that contact are uncertain, and all the details surrounding Operation Crevice now are understood to be under review by MI5 and Anti-Terrorism Branch detectives.

Raising further questions about whether Khan had a history of links with extremism, it emerged last night that one of his acquaintances contacted police following the London attacks to raise fears that Khan was a trained terrorist.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, the acquaintance last night told BBC Radio 4: "From what I've heard, he used to travel extensively overseas, especially to Asia - Pakistan, Afghanistan.

"He used to regularly be out of the country, going to Afghanistan and carrying out training, every year or so.

"It would be regarding being trained up, being a fighter, being skilled in the use of army-type training, the use of weapons, explosives and simply military discipline as to how action should be carried out in the field."

While there was no way to confirm the Libération report, the paper's police source was clearly very well-informed about the London investigation.

Alone among European media outlets, (French Newspaper) Libération identified Germaine as the fourth bomber yesterday morning. At that time, most British newspapers and even many police officers believed the fourth bomber to have been another Leeds man of Asian origin.

Germaine's identity was only established yesterday afternoon after forensic experts matched DNA samples from a house in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, to shreds of tissue retrieved from the Piccadilly Line train that exploded near Russell Square.

It was also reported last night that British officials had been warned several months ago by their counterparts in the United States about a possible attack on transport networks.

Persistent reports in the US have suggested that Faraj al-Libby, a senior al-Qaeda figure captured in Pakistan in May, had been providing information about planned attacks, though the intelligence is believed to be extremely vague and there is no confirmation that it was ever passed on by US agents.

However, if it should emerge that any vital clues about the suicide plot or the bombers had been missed, there would be severe embarrassment for the British intelligence agencies and for the government.

Tony Blair, the Prime Minister, has staunchly defended the security services and refused calls for a public inquiry into the events before the attacks.

However, Mr Blair has carefully avoided stating categorically that the agencies had no intelligence about the suicide plotters before last Thursday.

In the House of Commons earlier this week, the Prime Minister said only: "I know of no intelligence specific enough to have allowed them to prevent last Thursday's attacks."

Now that the identity of the four suicide bombers has been established, other suspects are emerging.

All four suicide attackers were caught on CCTV at King's Cross station minutes before last week's blasts, along with a fifth man, a "mastermind" who may since have fled Britain.

A sixth man, believed to be Magdi El-Nashar, a 33-year-old PhD biology student, is also being sought. He rented a flat in the Leeds suburb of Burley, where police on Tuesday found a bathtub full of the same explosives used in the London blasts.

While the identification of the bombers was a significant breakthrough, the investigation is far from over and Peter Clarke, head of the Metropolitan Police's Anti-Terrorism Branch, yesterday warned the next stages could be far slower.

"There are a number of things we need to establish," he said. "Who actually committed the attacks? Who supported them? Who financed them? Who trained them? Who encouraged them?

"This will take many months of intensive, detailed investigation," Mr Clarke said.



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"Who actually committed the attacks? Who supported them? Who financed them? Who trained them? Who encouraged them?

After any serious study of the events & the mishmash of stories and conflicting reports etc., it is becoming obvious that the security services knew MUCH more than they were letting on.
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"This will take many months of intensive, detailed investigation," Mr Clarke said.


Very handy then, wasn't it, that there were the other incidents ('failed' bombing on 21st July & the subsequent execution of De Menezez) to clutter & confuse the public & the complicit media circus & prevent any in-depth investigation of the original events of 7th July.[/i]
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com/2006/02/look-into-crevice.html
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way I hadn't read this part of this board when I wrote that yesterday but it is certainly interesting.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



The jury on this trial is to start to consider its verdict on Monday 19th March 2007. Some people, are already predicting that there will be 'embarrassing' revelations' for the UK Security Services that will be aired in public, once the trial is completed (numerous court sessions went unreported due to reporting restrictions, although for those interested, some of the info/analysis that was in the public domain has been captured here).

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Suspect 'tortured to confess'

Mar 15 2007

THE public and press were excluded from court on Tuesday while jurors heard details of national security in a long-running terror trial.

Sir Michael Astill QC had been summing up the defence case of Salahuddin Amin at the Old Bailey.

Amin, 31, is charged with plotting to cause deadly fertiliser bomb explosions with six other British Muslims.

Amin is alleged to be part of a plot with Omar Khyam, 24, Anthony Garcia, 25, Waheed Mahmood, 34, Jawad Akbar, 23, Shujah-ud-Din Mahmood, 20, and Horley's Nabeel Hussain, 21.

Jurors were reminded of evidence by Amin that he was tortured into confessions by the Pakistani Inter Services Intelligence Agency - the ISI.

But the court went in private - or 'in camera' - when the summing-up moved onto visits paid by British agents while Amin was in custody.

Sir Michael said: "He had no contact with anyone out-side who could help him. He confessed to more and more things they wanted to hear. He was seen by British agents."

It is claimed Amin was part of a plot to build a huge ammonium nitrate bomb, and that when he was arrested in the UK in April 2004 he confessed to sending Khyam the bomb formula.

Amin, born in London but raised in Pakistan, claims he only made the admissions after torture by the ISI.

Amin said he was tricked into returning to the UK, believing he would be free if he repeated his confessions.

Al-Qaeda supergrass Mohammed Junaid Babar said Amin was present at a meeting in Pakistan in spring 2003 when the plot was first discussed.

The court was told that in his London interviews he claimed Khyam asked him for the bomb formula which he found from an al-Qaeda contact named Abu Munthir.

Sir Michael said: "He said he was never at a group meeting when terrorist atrocities were planned.

"He said he never used any email account to pass on the formula to make explosive to the UK."

Sir Michael added that Amin said he had been stripped and tortured before telling ISI he would say "anything you want".

Members of the group had explosives training in the mountains of Pakistan before returning to the UK to use their deadly new knowledge,it is claimed.

The prosecution says they were deciding on a target, and plans included the Ministry of Sound nightclub in central London and Kent's Bluewater Shopping Centre.

Garcia has admitted buying and storing the fertiliser at Khyam's request, but claims it was to be shipped to Pakistan for use by Jihadi fighters in Kashmir.

Hussain has admitted paying for the lock-up, but claims he knew nothing of the plot. Akbar and Shujah Mahmood deny involvement.

Waheed Mahmood declined to give evidence, while Khyam refused to give details about the fertiliser, claiming his family had been threatened by the ISI.

Shujah-Ud-Din Mahmood, Garcia, Khyam, Waheed Mahmood and Akbar are all from Crawley; Garcia, is from Ilford, Essex; Hussain is from Horley. Amin, is of Luton, Bedfordshire.

All seven deny conspiracy with others to cause an explosion. It is expected the jury will be sent out to consider its verdict on Monday [19th March 2007]

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This trial has connections to some of the 7/7 accused, through the shadowy 'Al-Qaeda' prosecution witness Mohammed Junaid Babar. Read about Mohammed Junaid Babar's connections with Mohammed Siddique Khan around the time of Operation Crevice; Junaid Babar had reportedly met with Mohammed Siddique Khan on numerous occasions in Pakistan in 2003 and 2004. (see here & here & here & here.)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This revelation by Newsweek of prior knowledge by MI5 of at least two of the 7/7 bombers re-inforces the official view that the men were genuine suicide bombers and acts to undermine the view held by many in the 9/11 truth movement that they were patsies used in a black op by one or more intelligence agencies. It's a ploy to strengthen the 'c***-up' theory of what happened.

My theory is as follows: the four men might have been working as informers for MI5, pretending on their behalf to be terrorists so as to be agent provocateurs that would lead the police to genuine terrorists. The men were set up as patsies in an anti-terrorist exercise held on the same morning that turned deadly when real explosives were placed near them in the trains by black op agents who then got off and detonated them using radio transmitters.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This revelation by Newsweek of prior knowledge by MI5 of at least two of the 7/7 bombers re-inforces the official view that the men were genuine suicide bombers and acts to undermine the view held by many in the 9/11 truth movement that they were patsies used in a black op by one or more intelligence agencies. It's a ploy to strengthen the 'c***-up' theory of what happened.

My theory is as follows: the four men might have been working as informers for MI5, pretending on their behalf to be terrorists so as to be agent provocateurs that would lead the police to genuine terrorists. The men were set up as patsies in an anti-terrorist exercise held on the same morning that turned deadly when real explosives were placed near them in the trains by black op agents who then got off and detonated them using radio transmitters.


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You should report this information to the police. Otherwise you risk prosecution under the anti-terrorism laws for not reporting information about terrorism. On the other hand, if you do report it you could be prosecuted for wasting police time.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that the trial associated with the Operation Crevice is in the final stages, I wonder if the original reason cited as the discovery of the alleged plot (interception of communication from the mythical Al-Qaeda bigwig Abu Musab al-Zarqawi) has been considered/reviewed in the courtroom. The case also features connections to Mohammad Sidique Khan.

Below is a copy of a Times article from early April 2004, which is not on-line anymore (the original link is now dead), however a copy remains on-line here.

The Emphasis & Embedded links are mine.


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The Times April 07, 2004
British terror plot foiled by the spies from the Puzzle Palace
Adam Nathan, Gareth Walsh and David Leppard
Message intercept linked to Al-Qaeda


THE tip-off arrived in a sterile computer room deep inside the Puzzle Palace one cold morning in February [2004]. The machine’s gentle whirring was to spark a sequence of events that led to last week’s cracking of a suspected bomb plot in Britain. Formally known as Fort Meade, the Puzzle Palace is the Maryland headquarters of America’s National Security Agency (NSA) and is the world’s largest electronic eavesdropping centre.

Its giant computers monitor millions of phone calls and e-mails each day. Most are innocent. A few weeks ago, as the printer fed out an automatic translation of a communication thought to be between Britain and Pakistan, the NSA’s analysts knew they had to act fast.

On the other side of the Atlantic, some of Britain’s most senior terrorist-hunters were alerted. Within hours of the printout, they had gathered in London.

Those present included David Veness, head of special operations at Scotland Yard, and Eliza Manningham-Buller, director-general of MI5, the security service. Also present were a sprinkling of officers from MI6, the foreign intelligence service, and GCHQ, Britain’s own version of the Puzzle Palace based in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.

The meeting marked the beginning of Operation Crevice, an international anti-terrorist sweep involving as many as 1,000 police officers in Britain alone.

Detectives from the National Crime Squad (NCS) were redeployed from dealing with organised crime. A large part of the surveillance capability of Scotland Yard was switched to Crevice. “It takes up to 40 officers to keep tabs on one suspect and we pulled in absolutely everyone to make sure we didn’t mess up on this one,” said one Metropolitan police commander involved in the operation.

It resulted last week in the seizure of half a ton of ammonium nitrate fertiliser in a lock-up near Heathrow. The chemical, widely used in home-made terrorist bombs, would have been enough to wreak havoc on the scale of some of the IRA’s most devastating attacks. The operation, which is continuing, has so far led to 10 arrests, including those of nine Britons, eight of Pakistani origin and one from an Algerian family. A tenth arrest was made in Canada.

The reason the original tip, picked up by NSA satellites, had been given such high priority was that it appeared to be instructions for an attack passing between Al-Qaeda commanders in Pakistan and associates in Britain.

The sender was apparently in the circle around Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, one of the world’s most active and feared terrorists. Zarqawi has been blamed for masterminding synchronised attacks on the Iraqi cities of Baghdad and Karbala that killed 280 people during a Muslim religious festival in March.

He has previously been linked to Islamic militants in Britain. For months now, the growing wisdom among intelligence experts has been that the old Al-Qaeda organisation had broken up ? still a potent danger, but consisting of loosely linked Islamist groups around the world sharing a similar anti-western agenda.

The old command structure, it was thought, had been scattered by the fall of the Taliban and the destruction of training camps in Afghanistan, together with the worldwide roundup of suspects. Here, 2 years into the war on terror, was evidence that Osama Bin Laden’s lieutenants were issuing orders to militants in Britain.

“We all thought there were cells operating in isolation and had been told that the Al-Qaeda network had been destroyed from the top when suddenly we find a chain of command leading back to Pakistan,” said a senior Scotland Yard source.

Elements of the SAS’s counter-terrorism unit were called up to support the police operation. Eventually, the round-the-clock monitoring ‘by electronic means and agents on the ground’ paid off. Police and MI5 officers picked up information that led them to a self- storage unit in Hanwell, west London.

A specialist Scotland Yard team was given orders to break into the building, but to leave no trace of its presence. Inside, the team found the half ton of ammonium nitrate. The IRA used it as explosive, but it has also been used in attacks such as last year’s suicide bombs in Istanbul, which killed the British consul and many others.

A decision was made to ensure the explosives could not blow up, said a Scotland Yard source, who would not specify how this was achieved. “Let’s just say we did something to make it safe for the public no matter what happened,” he said.

Finally, the order was given for the swoop that brought the first phase of Operation Crevice to a spectacular close. The first move was in Ottawa. Mohammad Momin Khawaja, 29, a software developer who was born to Pakistani parents but brought up in Canada, was arrested at work while police smashed down the door of his home.

[British authorities have not see fit to charge Khawaja, although this was open to them. although he plays a pivotal role in the Crevice case (he is allegedly responsible for the device detonators). Khawaja is allegedly also a boyhood friend of Mubin Shaikh who was one of two informants for [Canadian Security Services] CSIS in the 2006 Toronto Terrorism case, and moved on to become a paid RCMP agent source. He was allegedly recruited by the group to lead the "training camps" which the others attended, and helped the group "quickly move from talk to action, before they were rounded up on conspiracy charges by police". ]

Investigators claim he had a ‘pivotal role’ in the alleged plot, as well as links to Saudi Arabian extremists.

About 12 hours after Khawaja was pulled in, the main phase began in Britain at dawn on Tuesday. Officers launched a series of raids across southeast England.

All of those picked up are now being held under anti-terrorism legislation at Paddington Green, the high-security police station in west London. Police are trying to determine who was actually involved in the bomb threat, who bought the bomb material and what was the intended target.

Since the arrests, attention has turned to the backgrounds of those arrested and fears of ‘home-grown’ terrorism. More than half the suspects come from the Crawley area of West Sussex, mainly from Langley Green, an apparently innocuous suburb.

Langley Green has one of the highest percentages of ethnic minority inhabitants south of London. Almost a quarter of residents described themselves as Asian or British Asian in the 2001 census.

The growth in numbers from the subcontinent has led to some tensions with the white population and the minority communities are themselves divided by heroin and crack cocaine on the one hand and Islam on the other.

“There is a big split here between the religious and the druggies. You are either in one camp or the other,” said one local Pakistani youth.

Most of the men picked up are thought to have been far too young to have been to Al-Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan.

One of those arrested, a teenager, was hoping to go to university. All were described by bemused locals as models of suburban respectability. Most of those detained were British citizens, who had gone to local secondary schools and in some cases gained good GCSE results.

By Thursday evening, four-strong forensic teams were continuing to trawl through at least six properties in Langley Green. At one address, the patio was being dug up.

Sources close to the investigation said the searches were part of an effort to locate detonators and boosters that would be needed to set off a bomb. Ground was also being dug up in woodland near Crawley police station.

Omar Bakri Mohammed, leader of the radical Muslim group al-Muhajiroun, last week claimed 40 of his organisation’s members had, in 2000, formed an ultra-radical splinter group in Crawley after complaining that he and his followers were not sufficiently hardline. The al-Muhajiroun extremists are believed to have infiltrated the Langley Green mosque near the men’s homes.

“There were rumours that people in Crawley were being encouraged by someone at Langley Green mosque to go on jihad and for terrorism,” said one Muslim youth.

Last week, the mosque denied the allegations.

Less than a week before the raids, websites operated by some members of the British arm of al-Muhajiroun were taken offline, apparently without the group’s co-operation.

Anyone trying to visit the pages was confronted with a message telling them that access was forbidden and giving a stern warning that their request “should not be repeated”.

Just hours after the arrests, however, one of the sites displayed a warning suggesting a repeat of the Madrid bombing “is promised in the UK”.

Some of those arrested are believed to be computer experts. During the raids, police seized eight laptops and five desktop computers from an internet cafe in Langley Green.

Police computer experts are scouring e-mail records from the cafe for links between the arrested suspects and senior militants in Pakistan, as the intelligence agencies try to establish links between nine British terror suspects and senior militants in Pakistan.

As detectives continued to question the young men suspected of plotting a huge bomb attack in Britain, MI5 and MI6 pressed on with their investigations into influential foreign figures who might have been advising them.

“More will surface on the external aspects of this alleged plot,” said a source familiar with the operation. Officials made it clear that Pakistan was in their sights.

Several of the suspects had visited Pakistan and one had been to disputed region of Kashmir. Of those arrested on Tuesday, one is 32, but the others are all under 22 - three of them teenagers. They are not particularly religious, intelligence sources say.

As Operation Crevice progressed, news came through of the Madrid bombings on March 11, in which 191 people were killed.

Shortly afterwards, Sir John Stevens, the Metropolitan police commissioner, said a similar attack on this country was “inevitable”.

Police said that there would be arrests in Britain shortly in connection with the financing of the Madrid attacks.

Police believe that Al-Qaeda had been planning to hit ‘soft’ targets in Britain such as nightclubs, buses and shopping centres.

Scotland Yard said there were concerns that a truck filled with explosives could be parked unnoticed near a busy nightspot and called for greater public vigilance. “We urge anyone who sees something suspicious to phone the anti-terrorist hotline,” said a spokesman.


Copyright 2004 Times Newspapers Ltd.

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SkyNews has this….
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Fertiliser Bomb Plot Trial Verdicts
Updated: 11:47, Monday April 30, 2007

A British terrorist who met two of the 7/7 suicide bombers has been convicted of plotting a series of deadly bomb attacks on targets in the UK.

Omar Khyam, who also boasted of working for the number three in al Qaeda, was found guilty of conspiracy to cause explosions made from chemical fertiliser.

Khyam, 25, of Crawley, West Sussex, had denied the charge at the Old Bailey during a year-long trial.

Another four British men accused of involvement in the plot were also found guilty of conspiracy to cause explosions likely to endanger life.

You can see how the story unfolded here at Sky News Online.

The jury in the Old Bailey trial had been considering their verdicts since March 16 but have not sat every day.

They started their 27th day today following the Easter break. The trial has lasted a year.

The seven British defendants were arrested in March 2004 following the discovery of more than half a ton of chemical fertiliser in storage in west London.

The prosecution alleges they were involved in a plot to bomb targets in Britain, including the Bluewater shopping centre in Kent, and to hit gas and electricity supplies.

The defendants deny there was a plot.


The other six defendantsSome say they did not know what the fertiliser was, that they were only interested in sending money and supplies to fighters in Kashmir and Afghanistan, or that they were duped.

Omar Khyam, 25, his brother Shujah Mahmood, 20, Waheed Mahmood, 35, and Jawad Akbar, 23, all from Crawley, West Sussex, Anthony Garcia, 25, of Barkingside, east London, Nabeel Hussain, 22, of Horley, Surrey, and Salahuddin Amin, 32, of Luton, Bedfordshire, deny conspiring to cause explosions likely to endanger life between January 1, 2003 and March 31, 2004.

Khyam, Garcia and Hussain also deny a charge under the Terrorism Act of possessing 1,300lb (600kg) of ammonium nitrate fertiliser for terrorism.

Khyam and Shujah Mahmood further deny possessing aluminium powder for terrorism.

More follows...
source:SkyNews


SkyNews also has this video & the following 2 articles:

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Why 7/7 Bombers Were Overlooked
By Martin Brunt
Crime Correspondent
Updated: 11:47, Monday April 30, 2007

Two of the London 7/7 suicide bombers in 2005 were tracked by MI5 officers investigating the fertiliser bomb gang - but they deemed them to be 'low-priority'.
The pair went on to bomb London tube stations on July 7 - a day when a total of 52 people were killed.


CCTV footage of storage facility

At first they were described as "clean skins"...terrorists with no suspicious background...then it was admitted that two of the 7/7 bombers had once been on "the periphery" of another plot.

Now, rather more can be revealed about the connections between the London suicide bombers and the fertiliser bomb plotters.

Links between the two gang leaders were forged at a training camp in Pakistan in 2003 where, side by side, Omar Khyam, the fertiliser bomb plotter and 7/7 suicide bomber Mohammed Siddique Khan were taught how to use guns and explosives.

Later, back in the UK, there were more meetings between the two terror cells...some of them recorded by MI5 agents who were, by then, following the fertiliser bombers.

Khan and his fellow 7/7 bomber Shehzad Tanweer met four times with Omar Khyam and his brother Shujah Mahmood in February and March 2004. They were tracked and photographed by MI5 agents in Crawley, West Sussex, Slough and Wellingborough.

At the end of March 2004, the fertiliser bomb suspects were arrested. It was the end of Operation Crevice.


Omar Khyam

At that stage MI5 had not identified Khan and Tanweer and did not consider them part of the fertilizer bomb plot. They were logged for follow up, but only low-priority. Desirable, but not essential targets.

Sixteen months later Tanweer blew himself up on the tube at Aldgate station, killing seven others.

Khan exploded the bomb at Edgware Road, killing six passengers.

Jacqueline Putnam survived the Edgware Road blast. She can't understand why MI5 didn't pursue Khan and Tanweer when they had them in their sights.

"I would have thought that if they were travelling in cars with the Crevice suspects then that would have put them in a higher priority," she said.

"And if they were having these conversations I don't understand why they were not given a higher priority."

Terror specialist Nafeez Ahmed believes questions over the surveillance operation justify an independent inquiry into 7/7.

"This is not about blaming," he said. "It's about finding out what precisely went wrong and on that basis rectifying things.

"My research suggests there's a whole litterny of rather embarrassing failures and the government is very worried."

Security sources insist the MI5 surveillance operation picked up little intelligence on the two eventual 7/7 bombers. They were among 55 mostly unidentified men with whom the fertiliser bombers had contact.

Parliament's intelligence services' watchdog refused to blame the MI5 decision not to pursue Khan and Tanweer more vigorously. It said it was 'understandable' in light of other priority investigations being conducted.

Renewed calls for a public, or at least an independent inquiry, into the 7/7 London bombings are likely to go unheeded.

source: Sky News


& the following link to (six) photos of the seven defendants.
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On the day of the Operation Crevice convictions, following a British judical record jury retirement, the date of the eventual conclusion of which nobody could have predicted, could they ?, the compulsorily tax funded on pain of imprisonment, state propaganda machine, aka the Bliar Broadcasting Corporation, this evening broadcasts a Panorama programme about the erm links between Operation Crevice and London 7/7, vis, our insecurity services claims that the alleged London 7/7 suicide bombers were unknown "clean skins", even though Crevice testimony that the jury were not allowed to hear, claimed evidential links between the two plots via MSK.

Not on the published schedules you will understand, it's one they made earlier, as per, just so that the incredibly well informed British public can stay, erm, incredibly well informed.

Did they also make a not guilty version ?

Set your recorders BBC1 19:00. Tonight.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6476207.stm

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Another Ludicrous Diversion.

Gestapo Chief John "Call me Doctor" Reid wrote:
Later, in the House of Commons, the Home Secretary, John Reid, ruled out an inquiry, saying it would divert the efforts of those in the security services who were so busy countering the terrorist threat.


Or..

Gestapo Chief John "Call me Doctor" Reid wrote:
Later, in the House of Commons, the Home Secretary, John Reid, ruled out an inquiry, saying it would divert the efforts of those in the security services who were so busy manufacturing the terrorist threat.

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More from the BBC on Crevice.

Home Secretary John Reid has dismissed calls from some MPs and campaigners for an inquiry into the 7 July bombings, saying it would not be the "correct response".

"It would divert the energies and efforts of so many in the security service and police who are already stretched greatly in countering that present threat," he said.

"Our responsibility as a government is to try and minimise the chances of any other group of families ever having to suffer as the families of 7/7 did suffer."

But Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell said: "The information revealed in this trial will spark widespread public concern and debate about the operational capabilities of the security service, and the reliability of government information in the aftermath of the 7 July bombings."

Shadow Home Secretary David Davis said MI5's unprecedented decision to rebut the allegations on its website was "not the answer".

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unprecedented adj. Having no previous example. New. Never happened before. Ever.


The unprecedented MI5 Rumours and Reality Crevice FAQ.

So why now ?

CONVICTION OF FERTILISER PLOTTERS:
STATEMENT BY JONATHAN EVANS MI5 Spy Master


More on Crevice from MI5

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Operation Crevice:

Verdicts delivered 119 full days into the year.

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Operation Crevice?
funny name for it

The fact that these guys talked about killing innocent people does not make them any less criminals. They fully intended to do it.
They deserve to be punished and imprisoned for a long time because they are dangerous misguided fools.

However, the length of sentances is shockingly heavy, compared with paedophiles and murderers.
IRA murderers as part of the good friday deal were all released early.
But funny enough the Irish innocent victims of justice like the birmingham 6 ended up serving much heavier sentences than the real killers.

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listen to the statement made by Imran Khan outside the Old Bailey on 30th April 2007 made on behalf of the 5 convicted. An audio link is available HERE

The statement contains the following:
Quote:

This was a prosecution driven by the security services, able to hide behind a cloak of secrecy, and eager to obtain ever greater resources and power to encroach on individual rights.

There was no limit to the money, resources and underhand strategies that were used to secure convictions in this case.

This case was brought in an atmosphere of hostility against Muslims, at home, and abroad. One stoked by this government throughout the course of this case.

This prosecution involved extensive intrusion upon personal lives, not only ours, but our families and friends.

Coached witnesses were brought forward. Forced confessions were gained through illegal detention, and torture abroad. Threats and intimidation was used to hamper the truth. All with the trial judge seemingly intent to assist the prosecution almost every step of the way.

These were just some of the means used in the desperate effort to convict. Anyone looking impartially at the evidence would realise that there was no conspiracy to cause explosions in the UK, and that we did not pose any threat to the security of this country.

It is not an offence to be young, Muslim and angry at the global injustices against Muslims.


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The references to the [UK & Pakistan] security services, able to hide behind a cloak of secrecy appears to be borne out by the following reports:
Family claims MI5 ordered teenagers to go to Pakistan, The Times, 1st April 2004
Fresh arrest in UK terrorism probe, CNN April 1st 2004
English Cricketer Held on Suspicion of Terrorism, ABC of Cricket, News by Shane Dell 02/04/04
Newsweek Report 13/2/06 - London Intel: Into the 'Crevice'
Spies ‘hid’ bomber tape from MPs - Sunday Times 14/5/06
Terror trial delayed by suspect's fears for family, The Times 18th September 2006
Plot Suspect refuses stand again, BBC 19th September 2006
UK agents 'may have colluded in torture', The Guardian, November 22nd 2006


Further independent collaborative research is at the J7 Trutch Campaign HERE
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salahuddin Amin was a Luton taxi driver who 3 days after the original arrests of the 'Crevice' lot in Luton/Crawley/Ilford etc., handed himself in to the Pakistani police on 2nd April 2004.

He was faciltated by the British Secret Service to be tortured by the Pakistan ISI, and wildly accused (although not in court) of being part of the alleged 'Al Queda' gang (who were) given information while in Pakistan about buying a "radioisotope bomb" from the Russian Mafia in Belgium".

Transcript of statement at the end of the trial, given on behalf of Salahuddin Amin outside the Old Bailey on 30/04/07

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This statement is provided on behalf of Salahuddin Amin:

In the name of God, the most compassionate, the merciful.

I am innocent.

An outrageous confidence trick has been played on the jury, and against me.

I was convicted by false evidence and the fruits of torture.

I am innocent.

I told the jury the truth.

I am innocent.

I told the jury I had been tortured and mistreated by the ISI, the Pakistani intelligence services, over a ten month period of illegal detention in Pakistan during 2004.

I told the jury how the British security services were responsible for my illegal detention, mistreatment, and illegal transfer to the UK.

Even though I am a British Citizen, the British government did not lift a finger to protect me from abuse and torture.

In fact, the British authorities made it worse by interrogating me at the same time as knowing I had been tortured.

The British government have been able to hide their shameful involvement in my illegal detention and torture in secret sessions which occurred during the trial.

These hearings cannot be reported to you, the public. They continue to hide behind this veil.

I demand they tell the truth about what they did to me.

I demand the truth about the other people who are still in secret detention and being tortured as part of this misguided war on terror.

I was illegally detained with some of these people. I know that some of them were treated far worse than I was, while British, American, and Canadian intelligence officers stood ready to benefit from the unreliable fruits of torture.

I demand an apology from the head of the security services and the British government about what they did to me.

I demand an explanation as to how this could have happened.

My wrongful conviction has given a green light to those who carry out the heinous act of torture on behalf of civilised western governments.

I will continue to fight to clear my name.

Thank you.

source:J7: Operation Crevice
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sinclair wrote:
The references to the [UK & Pakistan] security services, able to hide behind a cloak of secrecy appears to be borne out by the following reports:
Family claims MI5 ordered teenagers to go to Pakistan, The Times, 1st April 2004
Fresh arrest in UK terrorism probe, CNN April 1st 2004
English Cricketer Held on Suspicion of Terrorism, ABC of Cricket, News by Shane Dell 02/04/04
Newsweek Report 13/2/06 - London Intel: Into the 'Crevice'
Spies ‘hid’ bomber tape from MPs - Sunday Times 14/5/06
Terror trial delayed by suspect's fears for family, The Times 18th September 2006
Plot Suspect refuses stand again, BBC 19th September 2006
UK agents 'may have colluded in torture', The Guardian, November 22nd 2006


Further independent collaborative research is at the J7 Trutch Campaign HERE


Where does this fit in?

Quote:
There's a lot about this case which is puzzling. And there is one thing in particular that is very odd: Pakastani nationals (including former Pakistani international cricketers) ready to accuse their own cricket team of carrying out the murder before the Jamaican police had formally established whether a crime had been committed.

Of course there are strong grounds for suspecting that this terrible crime is linked to corruption in the game and that the Pakistan team had something to do with it either directly or indirectly. But it is all beginning to look a perfect fit as internal divisions open up. It's beginning to smell a bit.

It's beginning to smell of the ISI.


http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=62878

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Was it an ‘intelligence failure’ to give red carpet treatment to the ‘money man’ behind the 9-11 terrorists, or was it simply ‘routine’?

On the morning of September 11, Pakistan's Chief Spy General Mahmoud Ahmad, the alleged "money-man" behind the 9-11 hijackers, was at a breakfast meeting on Capitol Hill hosted by Senator Bob Graham and Rep. Porter Goss, the chairmen of the Senate and House Intelligence committees.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO206A.html

UPDATE - saw this on another thread. Germane methinks...

http://www.infowars.net/articles/may2007/010507Terror.htm

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ISI, CIA and Mossad carried out a covert transfer of Soviet made PLO and Lebanese weapons captured by the Israelis during the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in June 1982 and their subsequent transfer to Pakistan and then into Afghanistan. All knowledge of this weapon transfer was kept secret and was only made public recently.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter-Services_Intelligence



LONDON INTEL: INTO THE 'CREVICE'
http://www.newsweek.com/london-intel-crevice-112957
BY MARK HOSENBALL ON 2/12/06 AT 7:00 PM

British authorities had at least two of the terrorists who bombed London last July 7 under surveillance in 2004. In an official document examined by NEWSWEEK, a British judge reports that U.K. investigators had pictures and voice recordings of Mohammed Siddique Khan--believed to have been the plot leader--and another suicide bomber, Shahzad Tanweer, meeting several times in February and March 2004 with suspects in an earlier, separate terror plot that U.K. authorities investigated under the code name Operation Crevice. The evidence includes recordings of Khan in a car driven by one Crevice suspect, and evidence showing Khan and Tanweer getting out of a Crevice suspect's car. British media have made only limited references to the evidence because a trial of Crevice suspects is pending, and pretrial publicity is restricted under U.K. law.

After July 7, investigators claimed the four suspected suicide bombers were previously unknown to British intel. But as the investigation evolved, authorities quietly made it known that antiterror investigators, presumably working for the secret counterintelligence agency M.I.5, had run across Khan and Tanweer; British authorities decided at the time that they weren't dangerous enough for continuing surveillance. U.S. law-enforcement officials, who asked not to be named because the investigation continues, told NEWSWEEK the name of a third bomber, Germaine Lindsay, also came up tangentially in Crevice. British authorities initially denied they had heard of him before July 7 but now concede they may have. A U.K. official said Tony Blair's government wouldn't comment for legal reasons.

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Bluewater Shopping Centre

Another factoid that could be nothing more than an amazing coincidence of course but I thought I'd post it anyway.

One of the Crevice targets is alleged to have been the Bluewater Shopping Centre.

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Bluewater, Europe's largest and most innovative retail and leisure destination opened on March 16, 1999.


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On the 911 th day of Bluewater being open, we got September 11th 2001

Probably just another coincidence . . .

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Canada's Anti Terror legislation became part of the Criminal Code on Dec. 18, 2001.

The Canadian, Mohammad Momin Khawaja, the alleged supplier of electronics for Cervice was the first person to be arrested under the new law.

He was arrested on March 29, 2004

The date of his arrest marked the 119th week of the new criminal code.

Crevice Trial began 21.3.2006

Crevice Trial verdicts 30.4.2007

1 year, 1 month, 9 days.

Probably just coincidences.

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Creating The Terror Threat: Mohammed Junaid Babar, Al-Qaida Captain or CIA Agent?
https://hotterthanapileofcurry.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/creating-the-t error-threat-mohammed-junaid-babar-al-qaida-captain-or-cia-agent/

Mohammed Junaid Babar, was apparently the man who trained the idiots behind the 7/7 London bombings. So how do you go from serving a 70-year jail sentence in America, to being released after serving only four and a half years?

Since the war against Islam began almost a decade ago, western intelligence agencies have had their plans revealed in the public domain on several occasions, when one of their Muslim assets have not played the game like their masters have wished.

I’ve been documenting cases under “Creating The Terror Threat” for some time now, to provide you with a map of how the Gladio game is played out.


Junaid Babar is just the latest in a long line of western intelligence trained terrorists.

Rashid Rauf was the British ‘terrorist mastermind’ of the alleged plot to blow up at least 10 transatlantic airliners, but somehow managed to escape from custody, while in handcuffs and shackles.

Jamal al-Badawi was convicted in 2004 of planning and carrying out the USS Cole bombing. He too managed to escape from prison before being pardoned of his crimes.

Omar Al-Faruq was described as being the mastermind of the Bali bomb plot, he was arrested in June 2002 and handed over to the americans.
Former Indonesian State Intelligence Coordinating Board (BAKIN) chief A.C. Manulang was quoted by Tempo as saying that Al-Faruq was most likely a CIA-recruited agent.
In 2005, a Pentagon official in Washington confirmed that Al-Faruq escaped from a U.S. detention facility in Bagram, Afghanistan.

Haroon Rashid Aswat was described as being the mastermind of the 7 July London bombings.
The authorities stated that Aswat had made mobile telephone calls to two of the 7 July bombers on the morning of the 7/7 attacks.
After Aswat was handed over to the UK police, Scotland Yard police headquarters said, on 7 August 2005, that detectives were not interested in speaking to Aswat about the London attacks.
Former US federal prosecutor John Loftus claimed that British intelligence had been recruiting “Islamist militants”. Loftus stated that Aswat was a British-backed double agent, pursued by the police but protected by MI6.

Dr. Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed (Executive Director of the Institute of Policy Research & Development) has written extensively on this topic.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article162869.html

He wrote a very good account on what I have touched on titled “Our Terrorists”, which should be read by those trying to go beyond understanding the official narrative of the global war against terror.

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