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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Lennon's Opinion about Over Population

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35 years ago, the big media scare was over population - we were all doomed. Then it was the coming ice age that was going to kill everyone. Now we're all going to die of global warming. Kind of typical that Lennon didn't follow the mainstream thought.

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35 years ago, the big media scare was over population - we were all doomed. Then it was the coming ice age that was going to kill everyone. Now we're all going to die of global warming. Kind of typical that Lennon didn't follow the mainstream thought.


That's a great come back...

Interviewer: I think you're wrong about that!

John: I don't care!
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"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it." - John Lennon

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This is a great article on the death of John Lennon - an interview with Assassination Researcher, Mae Brussell.

Mae Brussell - for those that don't know...

A derisory introduction here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mae_Brussell

Better info here:

http://www.maebrussell.com/

http://www.maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/John%20Lennon%20A ssassination.html

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INTERVIEW WITH MAE BRUSSELL ON THE ASSASSINATION OF JOHN ONO LENNON

A short while ago we had the pleasure of talking to noted assassination/conspiracy researcher Mae Brussell at her home in Carmel, California. Mae was kind enough to share some of her thoughts on the murder of John Lennon last December 8, 1980 in New York City. She is just starting her 11th year of broadcasting on radio KLRB, Carmel, CA.

Tom Davis

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Tom: What would be the motive to kill John Lennon on December 8, 1980? Lennon had been in seclusion for many years and had not yet released his new album.

Mae: Both the date of Lennon's murder, and the careful selection of this particular victim are very important. Six weeks after Lennon's death, Ronald Reagan would become President. Reagan and his soon-to-be appointed cabinet were prepared to build up the Pentagon war machine and increase the potential for war against the USSR. The first strike would fall on small countries like El Salvador and Guatemala. Lennon, alone, was the only man (even without his fellow Beatles) who had the ability to draw out one million anti-war protestors in any given city within 24 hours, if he opposed those war policies.
John Lennon was a spiritual force. He was a giant, like Gandhi, a man who wrote about peace and brotherly love. He taught an entire generation to think for themselves and to challenge authority. Lennon and the Beatles' songs shout out the inequalities life and the messages of change. Change is a threat to the longtime status quo that Reagan's team exemplified.
On my weekly radio broadcast of December 7, 1980, I stated that "the old assassination teams are coming back into power." The very people responsible for covering up the murders of President John F. Kennedy, Senator Robert Kennedy, Reverend Martin Luther King, for Watergate and Koreagate, and the kidnapping and murder of Howard Hughes, and for hundreds of other deaths, had only six weeks before they would again be removing or silencing those voices of opposition to their policies.
Lennon was coming out once more. His album was cut. He was preparing to be part of the world, a world which was a worse place since the time he had withdrawn with his family. It was a sure bet Lennon would react and become a social activist again. That was the threat. Lennon realized that there was danger coming back into public view. He took that dangerous chance, and we all lost!

Tom: The common assumption is that Mark David Chapman, arrested the moment he killed John Lennon, was acting out his personal love-hate relationship with Lennon. Why do you have to look for a larger conspiracy than the conflicts in Chapman's own head?

Mae: Single crimes of passion are easy to explain and easy to solve. When someone is gunned down who is controversial, has political enemies, is hated by wealthy and well-organized religious movements, and is an open opponent of government policies at home and abroad, that kind of murder requires much more inquiry into the background of the assassin. The conclusions about the murder motive may turn out to be simple. Yet, in every political assassination since 1963, there were always more unanswered questions that led to a broader supposition of intention to kill by a group of people rather than one single individual.

Tom: What is the first clue you look for if you are suspicious of a larger conspiracy to assassinate, whether it is John Lennon, President John F. Kennedy, or the recent attempts on President Reagan and Pope John Paul II?

Mae: There are necessary connecting links in every assassination conspiracy. If any link of that chain falls apart and becomes exposed, the parts of the larger plot are more visible. When every element of that chain holds together and is present in the evidence and testimony regarding any particular murder, there has to be a larger conspiracy. (See accompanying diagram)
The most important link in that chain is the selected decoy or patsy. Whoever is arrested at the scene of the crime, to the exclusion of other suspicious persons, becomes the "assassin." This single person must serve a purpose, namely, to divert all attention away from those people who have armed him and located him at the scene of the crime.
Letters and diaries are always present and easily located to support the predetermined cover story. They provide a "motive", and are the glue that cements (we are told) the "loner" to his single purpose.
In preparation for his "act", the decoy or patsy is moved across countries or overseas, traveling and staying at safe houses. He has no friends, no jobs, no means of support while at the same time staying at fancy hotels, spending lots of money, getting phone messages, and meeting lots of people. Very few people have the money to spend years in transit like these patsies, whose chances of being in selected locations at the precise moment their victim is murdered are minute and impossible without assistance.

Tom: Who was Mark David Chapman? What was there in his background that made you suspicious that he had been selected for a "decoy" or "patsy" by other persons who wanted Lennon dead?

Mae: Chapman came from a conservative military family who had moved from Fort Worth, Texas to Florida. He had become a "Jesus Freak" at the time Lennon and the Beatles were getting death threats during the anti-war period. Joining this movement while supposedly loving and admiring Lennon was a gross contradiction, for the religious fundamentalists were furious that Lennon considered himself better known and loved than Jesus.
DeKalb County, Georgia, just to the east of Atlanta, figures prominently in Chapman's life as it had some years earlier in that of Martin Luther King. In 1977 in a court affidavit, Robert Byron Watson, former employee of Magellon's Art Gallery, Atlanta, named several citizens as having planned and bragged about the "future murder of Reverend Martin Luther King." King's death came just one week after the plans were discussed. These same people also talked about murdering Senator Robert Kennedy.
Chapman attended DeKalb Junior College in the area where these kinds of plans were laid and such political anger was being vented. From DeKalb County, Chapman was sent to Beirut, Lebanon. He was handed the funds both ways. Beirut was the center for George Habash and CIA assassination teams also identified in the Watson testimony before the House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1977-78.
On March 31, 1981, United Press International exposed the connection of "military training in a guerrilla camp" in Beirut, Lebanon to "worldwide Nazi ties."
After six months in Lebanon, Chapman went to Fort Chaffee, Arkansas to work with Vietnam refugees recently arrived from Southeast Asia. Members of the CIA were with him at this military base.
William Colby's Vietnam Phoenix program, staffed with agents who intensely hated the anti-war, social activists like John Lennon, had both the intent and the means to move persons like Chapman to their training camps and then to specific places planned as sites for future assassinations. Colby came back to the U.S. to become Director of the C.I.A. at a time (1973) when "Operation Chaos" was in full swing against the hippies, rock musicians, and anti-war protestors. Many of them were killed or otherwise neutralized.
From Fort Chaffee, Arkansas, Chapman moved to Lookout Mountain, Tennessee to attend Presbyterian College.

Martin Luther King, a victim of plans made in DeKalb County, Georgia, was murdered in Memphis, Tennessee. Senator Howard Baker from Tennessee and CIA Director William Colby were making deals to cover up Watergate crimes in 1974-75, year before Chapman moved to Tennessee.
According to news reports, Chapman "fled" Tennessee to Hawaii in 1976. His earliest arrest records indicated he had committed crimes in Florida, but the authorities later blamed these crimes on another person, excusing the mix-up as a "computer mistake." Many patsies and decoys have earlier arrest records that are used to keep them silent and actively cooperative for fear of going to jail. Was there any connection between the Florida identification and the reason for Chapman's flight to Hawaii?
Hawaii has been the scene of many clandestine operations. Many CIA Vietnamese and members of the Special Forces, now safely removed from Vietnam, were assembled in Hawaii. The Nugan Hand Bank, an Australian conduit for CIA "black money", actually assassination funds, kept a branch in Hawaii. Herbert Mullen, convicted of mass murders in California, appeared perfectly normal until he was sent to a military hospital in Hawaii. It was in Maui that he went through his "religious thinking" and evolved as a killer. Ed Sanders, author of The Family, a book about the Manson Family, obtained documents regarding a mysterious trip Mullen took to Hawaii before he later became a programmed killer.
The years from 1976 to 1978 in Chapman's biography are still vague and murky: two years of limited employment and "mental treatment." Allegedly, he was in the hospital for a mental breakdown. On the other hand, if there were any evidence of mental instability, would not his permit application to buy the murder weapon have been denied?
There were many years, months, days when Chapman could have been mentally programmed to become like the "Manchurian Candidate," specifically to murder John Lennon, if and when he re-entered public life. Lennon was not threat until the U.S. was getting close to another war.
Subsequently, Chapman took a long "vacation", including a trip around the world. During this voyage he made a trip to Switzerland to meet a pal from DeKalb County, Georgia, the same man who earlier had arranged the original trip to Lebanon. The journey culminated in London with a rare visit to a live Lennon concert.
Chapman's wife, who worked for a travel agency, "arranged his itinerary". The source of the money for his fare, hotels, food, concerts, has never been identified, although Pacific Holding Ltd., a "tourism" company formed by the CIA and Special Forces, may be implicated. Both groups had funds to hire assassination teams.
When Chapman left his job in Hawaii, October 23, 1980, he flew to Atlanta, GA. From Georgia, he went to New York City with the intention of killing John Lennon, but was apparently able to resist the "master inside himself", a conflict he describes, and returned to Hawaii. Before long, however, Hawaii was again behind him, and Chapman arrived in New York on December 5, 1980 with the specific plan to kill John Lennon, which he did three days later.

Tom: What you are talking about is only circumstantial. There is no proof that the CIA or any government agency manipulated Chapman for their purposes. When does the proof of a conspiracy ever become apparent?

Mae: The burden of proof of conspiracy is put upon the private investigator. The common denominator in all these cases are those links in the conspiracy chain (see diagram) which show the relevant questions to be asked: Were there other persons along with Chapman shooting at Lennon to make sure he died? Who fled the scene in a hurry, never sought again by law enforcement agencies? Why did the New York police adamantly refuse to accept pictures of Chapman taken autographing an album earlier in the evening of the murder? Why were they donated to a newspaper after the police refused to accept them? When Chapman's wife was called by the New York Police, why did they instruct her, "Don't release any picture of him."? How could Miami Police issue an erroneous description of a criminal record having the same last name, date of birth, race, and approximate height as the slaying suspect? Can we ever see the picture of the Florida suspect? If Chapman was treated for mental illness in Hawaii, how did he procure the weapon in Hawaii? How did Chapman transport the gun from the Island to the Mainland? (This question was dismissed by the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents, who said, "No investigation was in progress.")
Money was never a problem for this wanderer. He and his wife lived in a $400 a month apartment and were able to support his hobby of collecting expensive works of art. Owning original Norman Rockwell lithographs worth $7,500, and traveling around the world aren't impossible, if there is some kind of occupation that provides the money for these luxuries.
If Chapman wrote "John Lennon" on his job work sheet on October 23, 1980, it would seem impossible for someone not to notice this message until the day after Lennon was murdered. Employment log sheets are usually added up regularly to determine the hours worked and amount of pay checks. It is more probable that Chapman wrote this name at that time so that his cover story, his defense after the murder, would be his mental identification with John Lennon.
Chapman's intention to find Lennon, as just another adoring Beatle fan, must be separated from the question of who transported him from Hawaii to Georgia to New York, back to Hawaii, and back again to New York, with lots of cash, and with the sole purpose of killing Lennon.
Jimmy Breslin, New York columnist, was impressed that Mark David Chapman could be such a "good shot" with "no military background at all." But Chapman had been trained to shoot. He had learned to become a security guard in Georgia before his trips to Lebanon and to the many countries where he could have been instructed in killing. What about Ft. Chaffee? Why not shooting practice in Tennessee? What about military bases in Hawaii? What gives Breslin and the New York Daily News the right to make such statements without an inkling of Chapman's background?
Like all the other "loner" drifters, Chapman stayed at expensive hotels. His last evening before killing Lennon was spent at the Sheraton Centre Hotel in New York. He was carrying more than $2,000 in cash along with his credit cards. Where did he get these cards, and on what basis was the money earned and saved to establish credit to qualify for these cards?

Tom: You apparently believe there was a government conspiracy to assassinate and silence John Lennon which was conducted by the same people who murdered other political figures and musicians in the past eighteen years?

Mae: Absolutely! The federal government has maintained active programs to eliminate rock musicians and disrupt rock concerts. Senator Frank Church's Committee hearings in 1975 and the FBI Cointel-Programs clearly document the intent to break up any gatherings of the "new left". Nothing brought anti-war demonstrators together with political messages more effectively than music festivals.
There is hard evidence the CIA assigned agents to "investigate the music industry." After the murders of Tim Buckley, Jim Croce, and Mama Cass Elliot, more information surfaced about earlier mysterious deaths of Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, and Janis Joplin. Listed below, but not updated this past year, are some of the rock musicians who have died since the Huston Plan and the FBI Cointel-Program were activated. If these people had been taking any kinds of drugs, there is the distinct possibility that specific poisons were added to their drugs, enough to be fatal, to make it appear that they had died from a simple "overdose".

John Lennon Paul Kossoff John Bonham
Elvis Presley Jim Reeves Steve Parson
Buddy Holly Berry Oakley Bob Marley
Otis Redding Tim Buckley Sal Mineo
Brian Jones Jim Croce Harry Chapin
Jimi Hendrix Richard Earina Brian Epstein, Beatles manager
Janis Joplin Lenny Bruce
Jim Morrison Larry Williams Michael Jeffery, Jimi Hendrix manager
Duane Allman Bon Scott, AC/DC
Mama Cass Elliot Richie Valens Rod McKernan, "Pig Pen" of the Grateful Dead
Gram Parsons J. P. Richardson
Phil Oakes Ronnie Van Zandt
Marc Bolan Steve Gains Donald Rex Jackson, Grateful Dead mgr.
Keith Moon Sid Viscious











Rod McKernan, "Pig Pen" of the Grateful Dead

Donald Rex Jackson, Grateful
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The murder of John Lennon is the tragic finale to an entire era, the reminder that once an artist becomes as popular and as political as he was, his enemies will be waiting to make sure his messages never appear again to awaken the slumbering youth.


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Crowd funding invited for a movie entitled "JOHN LENNON & the TRUTH MOVEMENT" Produced & Directed by CHRIS EVERARD.

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This film is not just about the killing of the world’s most famous man. It’s about the killing of an IDEA, a MOVEMENT. The killing of a SYMBOL which represented PEACE.


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I advise you have a good look at Chris Everard's previous films before you donate any money to this project.
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Crowd funding invited for a movie entitled "JOHN LENNON & the TRUTH MOVEMENT" Produced & Directed by CHRIS EVERARD.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The documentary 'John Lennon Vs. USA' as linked to in previous posts above is no longer online; however, it is still available here (spoken in English, with Italian sub-titles):

John Lennon Vs. USA (part 1):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuxpv926_3E

John Lennon Vs. USA (part 2):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFlt4_dfICw

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@ Andrew Dec 12, 2010 7:16 pm (I know it's old, but I only just saw it):
'Well if you just look at the words of the song ("Imagine") it is satanic. Simply.'

Fraid not, Andrew. There is a mile of difference between 'Atheism' and 'Satanism'. Whilst I am a believer, I can readily see how people can become Atheists, by reading the history of religion through the ages, and in the present day (widespread child abuse, support for agressive wars).

As believers, we would disagree with the words of the song; we should hope, and pray, that Atheists get the grace of God to change their minds.

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The Day John Lennon Died 2010 (full documentary):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjU7VMj94ss

John Lennon - The Messenger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P53WblP_J3U

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Mae Brussell - THE MURDER OF JOHN LENNON - (12-14-80)

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The documentary 'John Lennon Vs. USA' as linked to in previous posts above is no longer online; however, it is still available here (spoken in English, with Italian sub-titles):

John Lennon Vs. USA (part 1):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuxpv926_3E

John Lennon Vs. USA (part 2):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFlt4_dfICw

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I believe the assassin was a mind-control experiment, like all their old tricks of MKULTRA, only much more sophisticated. I believe their old boss authorized it. The person the CIA building in Washington D.C. is named after. I believe he was the same person who tried to assassinate President Ronald Wilson Reagan on his sixty-ninth day in office -- March 30, 1981. He is the person with the most to gain from both of these assassinations. So, who authorized the assassination of John Lennon? I believe it was the 41st President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.


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by Mark R. Elsis, Lovearth.net, December 8, 2002

"Laurel and Hardy, that's John and Yoko.
And we stand a better chance under that guise…
Because all the serious people like
Martin Luther King and Kennedy and Gandhi got shot."
John Lennon

Monday, December 8th, 1980 was the warmest December 8th in the history of New York City. The temperature reached a balmy record of 64 degrees Fahrenheit that fateful day. At around 5 p.m., John and Yoko left their apartments in the historic Dakota on Central Park West and 72nd Street. They were to go to the Record Plant recording studio to supervise the transfer of some of the "Double Fantasy" album numbers to singles.

As they were leaving the Dakota to enter their limousine, they were approached by several people who were seeking autographs. Among them was a man who would be later identified as the assassin. John was asked by the assassin, to sign his copy of the album Double Fantasy, John did. There is a famous photograph of John signing Double Fantasy for the assassin.

At least three witnesses, Jose Perdomo, the outside doorman for the Dakota, an elevator operator and a cab driver who had just dropped off a passenger, saw the assassin standing in the shadows, just inside the archway of the Dakota. You can add my name, Mark Elsis, to this list also. I saw the assassin lurking in the darkness while I was driving my taxi in Manhattan that evening.

I was traveling without passengers, going north on Central Park West and made a slow left turn on to 72nd Street. As soon I made the left turn, I sensed something was wrong. I quickly slowed down to a crawl in front of the Dakota. I looked right at this guy lurking in the darkness, and I felt he was bad energy. I very nearly stopped. It was almost 10:00. I'm so sorry, forgive me John. I should have stopped. I knew there was something terribly wrong with this guy, the assassin. I was ever so close to stopping, I went back and forth, should I stop or not a couple times in the few seconds in front of the Dakota.

John and Yoko left the Record Plant at 10:40. They were on their way back home from their recording / mixing session for Yoko's song Walking On Thin Ice. At 10:49 their limousine pulled up in front of their apartments at the Dakota, they were home. It stopped at the curb. It was an absolutely beautiful evening in Manhattan, so there was no need to be driven into the courtyard, to be let off next to the safety of the lobby entrance.

Jose Perdomo, the front doorman, leaves his post to open the limousine door for John and Yoko. Yoko Ono stepped out of the limousine first and John Lennon who is carrying a tape recorder and some cassettes followed a few steps behind. As Yoko passes him the assassin, says "Hello". Just as John passes him, the man steps from the sidewalk and from his pocket he takes out a 5 shot .38 revolver armed with hollow tip bullets. He drops into a combat stance, knees flexed, with one arm supporting the other at the wrist. He says, Mr. Lennon?

Just as John turns, about 15 feet through the large arch with iron gates of the Dakota, the assassin fires two shots into the left side of his back. There's a crash of shattering glass as the bullets that pass through John's body smash into the Dakota's glass frontage. These two shots spin him around. He is now facing his assassin.

Blood is already pouring out from the first two bullets and the four wounds, as the assassin takes aim at John again. He fires three more shots. Two of the bullets smash into John's left shoulder. The other goes astray. The greatest singer songwriter and the most influential political artist of our time staggers up six steps to the room at the end of the entrance used by the concierge, said, "I'm shot," then fell down.

I'm shot he moans lying on the floor. John's been shot, screams Yoko. Jay Hastings the security man reaches under his desk and presses the alarm button, notifying the police from the nearby 20th Precinct. He then rushes to John's side and removes his blood stained glasses. Then he takes off his uniform jacket to cover him. He wants to use his tie as a tourniquet, but can't decide where to apply it. John is dying, blood pours from his chest and mouth, his eyes are open but unfocused, and he is gurgling and vomiting blood.

The first policemen at the scene were Officers Steve Spire and Peter Cullen, who were in their patrol car at 72nd Street and Broadway when they heard a report of shots fired at the Dakota. The officers found the assassin standing "very calmly" where he had been. The police said the assassin had dropped the revolver after firing it, and said he had a paperback book, J.D. Salinger's "The Catcher in the Rye."

The second police team at the Dakota, Officers Bill Gamble and James Moran, realizing John Lennon was critically injured, didn't wait for an ambulance, and took John Lennon to Roosevelt Hospital in their patrol car. Officer Moran said they stretched Lennon out on the back seat and that the singer was "moaning." Officer Moran asks, "Are you John Lennon?" and that Lennon had moaned, "Yeah." The patrol car makes a left through the red light on to Columbus Avenue and speeds down the 13 blocks to 59th Street, where it swings into the entrance of Roosevelt Hospital.

Roosevelt hospital's emergency trauma team has already been alerted. John is brought into the emergency room with virtually no pulse. The two bullets that hit him on the left side of the back had both pierced a lung and passed through his chest. A third bullet had shattered his left shoulder bone, and a fourth had hit the same shoulder and ricocheted inside his chest, where it severed his aorta and windpipe.

After an unsuccessful attempt at cardiac massage, a medical team of seven people led by Dr. Stephen Lyman labored to save John using every device and technique available. Nothing work. John Lennon the greatest singer songwriter and the most influential political artist of our time was pronounced dead at 11:15 p.m. on December 8, 1980. The official cause of death is shock produced by massive hemorrhaging. Dr. Elliott M. Gross, the Chief Medical Examiner, said after the autopsy that Lennon had died of shock and loss of blood and that no one could have lived more than a few minutes with such injuries.

Yoko Ono, crying "Tell me it's not true," was taken to Roosevelt Hospital and led away in shock after she learned her husband was dead. David Geffen later issued a statement in her behalf: "John loved and prayed for the human race. Please do the same for him."

Within minutes of the first broadcasts of the news of the shooting, people began to gather in front of the Dakota, reciting prayers, singing Lennon's songs and burning candles. I first got to the Dakota at 11:45. I was there longer than anyone on Earth that evening - 9 hours, from 11:45 p.m. till 8:45 a.m. the next morning. (Read John Lennon Day Petition)

On December 14, all around the world, people paused to stand alone or come together in silence, heeding a plea from Yoko Ono that they take 10 minutes to remember John.



CIA -- FBI -- Deranged Lone Nut Fan -- Manchurian MKULTRA Candidate

The assassin was a brainwashed hit man carrying out someone else's contract, writes Bresler, "he is in many ways as much the victim of those who wanted to kill John Lennon, as Lennon himself."

The Manchurian MKULTRA candidate assassin dropped the gun and proceeded to take out a copy of J. D. Salinger's Catcher in the Rye, and calmly started reading. The Dakota doorman, Jose Perdomo, shouted at the assassin, "Do you know what you've done?" "I just shot John Lennon," he replied, accurately enough.

"He walked past me and then I heard in my head, 'Do it, do it, do it,' over and over again, saying 'Do it, do it, do it,' like that," recalled in a BBC documentary several years after going to prison. "I don't remember aiming. I must have done, but I don't remember drawing a bead or whatever you call it. And I just pulled the trigger steady five times." The assassin described his feeling at the time of the shooting as "no emotion, no anger dead silence in the brain."

His unnatural tone sounded all-too-familiar for British lawyer and journalist Fenton Bresler, who wrote the book, Who Killed John Lennon? The assassin was a brainwashed hit man carrying out someone else's contract, writes Bresler, "he is in many ways as much the victim of those who wanted to kill John Lennon, as Lennon himself."

Prosecutors were at a loss for motive, so they opted for the cliché, the assassin did it for the attention. The troublesome American preoccupation with grabbing that elusive fifteen minutes propels many a daily-newspaper-journalist-cum-pop-sociologist into raptures of sanctimony. But Arthur O'Connor, the Detective who spent more time with the assassin immediately following the murder than anyone else, saw it another way.

"It is definitely illogical to say that [the assassin] committed the murder to make himself famous. He did not want to talk to the press from the very start. It's possible somebody could have used him. I saw him the night of the murder. I studied him intensely. He looked as if he could have been programmed."

Detective O'Connor was speaking to Bresler, and publicly for the first time. Bresler's book, Who Killed John Lennon? -- Offers the most cogent argument that the assassination of John Lennon was not the work of yet another "lone nut."

At nearly three hundred pages, John Lennon's Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) file reveals that he was under "constant surveillance." His apartment was watched, he was followed, and his phone was tapped. The FBI did not keep a particularly low profile around the ex-Beatle, apparently attempting to harass him into silence or at least drive him nuts, similar to the tactic they had used on Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., just a few short, but eventful years earlier.

In late 1972, when the "surveillance" was at its peak, John Lennon told humorist Paul Krassner, "Listen, if anything happens to Yoko and me, it was not an accident."

The FBI and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) tracked John at from at least his "Free John Sinclair" concert in 1969 until 1976, even though by then John had won his immigration battle and dropped out of not only political activism but public life altogether. This turned out to be a five-year period of seclusion to raise his newly born son, Sean. Sean Lennon was born on October 9, 1975, his dad's 35th birthday.

Placing a person under "constant surveillance" and ordering that person executed are admittedly two very different things. Nevertheless, Bresler's point is that the government did not consider John Lennon a harmless rock 'n' roller. John's political publicity stunts such as in his and Yoko's Montreal "Bed-In" and "War Is Over" were always capable of seizing the spotlight and speaking directly to tens of millions of young people who venerated him. With unfettered access to the world's media, his power truly was immense. Because of this, in some circles he was correctly viewed as the most dangerous radical who needed to be stopped. John Lennon was the most dangerous person in the world, to those whose interest is a world under corporate military rule.

John Lennon was assassinated only four years after the intense FBI and CIA surveillance ceased. In those intermittent years, James Earl Carter was President, a Democrat who kept the two agencies more or less in check. Matter of fact, about 1000 CIA was let go under James Earl Carter's Presidency.

But on November 4, 1980, when John Lennon's first album (Double Fantasy) in half a decade was climbing high on the charts, James Earl Carter became a lame duck President. I discovered a very interesting fact about the last three major assassinations in the United States. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Robert Francis Kennedy and John Winston Lennon were all executed during the time of a lame duck Presidency.

President Lyndon Baines Johnson became a lame duck on March 31, 1968 when he said to a national television audience; he would not run for reelection even if the Democrats wanted him to. Four days later Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated. Sixty-three days later, Senator Robert Francis Kennedy was assassinated after winning the California Democratic primary (RFK would have been the Democratic Presidential candidate against the Republican Presidential candidate Richard Milhouse Nixon, and RFK would have won the Presidency). On November 4, 1980 President James Earl Carter lost the Presidential election to Ronald Wilson Reagan, thus becoming a lame duck President. Thirty-four days later, the heartbeat of music for his generation, John Winston Lennon was assassinated.

In every single major assassination these black-op conspirator killers have actually had the balls to blame it on some poor deranged lone gunman. They have had a patsy or a mind controlled Manchurian candidate fall guy for the last four assassinations. President John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Senator Robert Francis Kennedy, and the founder and leader of the most influential musical group The Beatles, the person who was his generations and about to be another generations leader for peace and love, John Winston Lennon.

Reagan's campaign was managed by career secret agent William Casey, who under President Reagan became the CIA's most freewheeling chief since Allen Dulles (who JFK fired). The new far-right administration would reassemble the intelligence services and grant them a cheerful carte blanche. Something quite interesting about William Casey, who just happening to die very quickly from a supposed brain tumor on May 6, 1987. He died without ever testifying in the scandal, which most certainly originated with him, the Iran Contra Affair.

The forces that tried desperately to neutralize John Lennon for at least seven years lost power in November of 1976. The Lennon's government dossier ends in that year. In 1980, as those forces were preparing to retake control of the government, "the most dangerous extremist" John Lennon emerged from retirement with the best selling album, Double Fantasy, and was promptly assassinated.

The paper trail that helps support this is the airline ticket found in the assassin's hotel room, a Hawaii to New York connection departing December 5, 1980. But the assassin had actually purchased a Hawaii to Chicago ticket to depart December 2, 1980 with no connecting flight. The ticket found after his arrest had apparently been altered. None of his friends knew that he traveled on to New York. They thought he went to Chicago for a three-day stay. Where was the assassin from December 2 through 5, 1980?

Bresler concludes that the Lennon assassination, which, as the assassin himself noted in a rare interview, "ended an era," bears similarities to another assassination that took place twelve years earlier: the murder of Robert Francis Kennedy.

Robert Francis Kennedy's apparent lone assassin, Sirhan Sirhan, and John Lennon's assassin just happened to have shared the same defense psychiatrist. But while Dr. Bernard Diamond couldn't skirt the obvious fact that Sirhan was under hypnosis (Diamond wrote it off as self-hypnosis), he labeled John Lennon's assassin a "paranoid schizophrenic."

The court disagreed. The assassin, even now, has never had more than routine psychiatric care since entering his guilty plea. He was not sent to a mental hospital, but to Attica State Prison. He was judged legally "rational."

Bresler clears up a few widely disseminated misconceptions about John Lennon's assassin. While any mention of his name is now accompanied by the phrase "deranged fan," John's assassin was anything but. He was no more or less an ardent Beatles / Lennon fan than anyone of his generation. His real rock hero was Todd Rundgren, a cynical studio craftsman who could not be further from Lennon in artistic sensibility. Notwithstanding his announcement months after the murder that he "killed Lennon to gain prominence to promote the reading of The Catcher in the Rye," he never exhibited strong feelings about the novel until shortly before the shooting. Catcher, Bresler muses, may have been used as a device to trigger the assassin's programming."

After the murder, major media ran bizarre stories of the assassin's supposed growing identification with John Lennon - at one point he even "re-baptized" himself as Lennon, according to Newsweek. These stories were all quite fascinating, but there was no evidence to back any of them up. What is true is that when the assassin quit his last job he signed out as "John Lennon," then crossed the name out.

The assassin of John Lennon was not a "loner." He was for most of his life a normally social individual and a camp counselor who had a special rapport with kids. Bresler also notes that when the assassin signed up for a YMCA overseas program, he selected an odd destination: Beirut - a perfect place, says Bresler, for the assassin, a once gentle soul, to be "blooded," that is, desensitized to violence.

A final note to the mystery of the assassin: As he was ready to go to trial and his diligent public defender was winding up six months spent assembling his defense, the accused killer suddenly decided to change his plea to guilty. His lawyer was perplexed and more than a little perturbed. But the assassin was determined. He said he was acting on instructions from a "small male voice" that spoke to him in his cell.

Bresler interviewed Arthur O'Connor, the lieutenant who was commanding officer of the 20th Precinct of the New York Police that dealt with John Lennon's murder. He quotes O'Connor as saying, "As far as you are trying to build up some kind of conspiracy, I would support you in that line. Like I said originally over the phone, if the [assassin] wanted to get away with it, he could have got away with it. There was the subway right on the corner and no one around to stop him." Instead, once the assassin had accomplished his task, he calmly sat reading Catcher In The Rye and waited for the police to come.

"Why one method rather than the other, the amateur as against the professional? Because that way you avoid any awkward questions, and everyone seems to fall for it anyway. If a professional killer had gunned down John Lennon, the whole world would have known. Such swift expert assassinations carry their own individual hallmark. It would have been obvious what had happened, and with Lennon's history of War Is Over, peace and love political activity, there would have been [an in-depth investigation]." "But if you program an amateur to do the job, a so-called 'nut', very few questions are asked."



Hinckley, Bush, Reagan Assassination, World Vision And The Assassin

Ronald Wilson Reagan was sworn into the Presidency on January 20, 1981. On his sixty-ninth day in office, March 30, 1981, Reagan was nearly killed by an assassin. The person named as the assassin was John Hinkley. His family ties were to oil. Through that oil connection, Neil Bush - Vice President George Herbert Walker Bush's son, who worked in oil [later to steal hundreds of millions through Silverdo in the Saving and Loan crisis] -- knew Scott Hinkley, (brother of John) who also worked in oil.

"Scott Hinckley, the brother of John Hinckley Jr., who is charged with shooting President Reagan and three others, was to have been a dinner guest Tuesday night [March 31, 1981] at the home of Neil Bush, son of Vice President George Bush, The Houston Post has learned."

The two families lived close to each other. They knew each other socially and financially. When the Hinkley oil company started to fail in the sixties, Bush's Zapata Oil financially bailed out Hinkley's company. It went from being Vanderbilt Oil to Vanderbilt Energy or Vanderbilt Resources in the 60s after Bush intervened. The Hinkley's had been running an operation with six dead wells but then they were making several million dollars a year after the Bush bailout. Was this some sort of a money-pass front where they were laundering money through on this phony oil operation but actually operating some type of an intelligence pay-off?

The father in that family, John W. Hinkley Sr., was also the president of the board for World Vision. World Vision is a far-right evangelical missionary operation that does missionary and "good work" operations in countries where there is a political purpose for it to be there. From its inception, it was rabidly anti-Communist and it focused on refugee populations of people running from countries that had been taken over by Communism. This was from the fifties on.

World Vision had a hand in the movement of the Cubans into the United States and other refugees of revolutionary regimes. When you're a refugee you're cut loose, basically, and pretty much fair game to be manipulated by whoever is willing to give you a hand because you don't have a home or any place to stay and somebody has got to accept you.

World Vision was able to recruit out of these mercenary populations, people who could be politically turned to their intelligence purposes. World Vision served as a penetration force -- not as visible as the military actually going in or the CIA going in - but going in as missionaries and working among the people.

This link between missionary and intelligence for capitalistic infiltration operations goes way back. It was part of the internationalism with the Rockefellers. It's talked about in the book, Thy Will Be Done, about Rockefeller, Venezuela, and Latin American Oil, the Summer Linguistic Institute, World Vision and others. But they operated in this way for a long time.

They were paid by the CIA for a long time during the Vietnam War and went into South East Asia -- Cambodia and Laos. Throughout Vietnam they were given U.S. military equipment to use. They still maintain a budget under USAID, (Agency for International Development), which was just a pass-over in order to give the CIA more cover. They ran operations through USAID. The current cover replacing that is the NED (National Endowment for Democracy), which is supposed to be how we're exporting democracy around the world.

But of course, we're exporting exactly the kind of corrupt democracy we have here, which is rigged and manipulated elections and press manipulation in order to keep in power or put in power the people that we want to be in those countries for the purpose of having our investments protected and milking what we can out of the resources and the labor available in any of those countries.

World Vision was part of that scheme and they did some nasty things. They ran the refugee camp in Sabra-Shatilla where the fascist Phalange was allowed in to kill the Palestinians. They ran the Cuban and Thai refugee camps in the United States. The assassin -- who eventually shot John Lennon -- worked at the Thai refugee camps out in Arkansas that World Vision operated there. They ran these camps brutally, forcing people into political education against Castro, refusing to feed people, beating people -- by many reports -- and bringing in Alpha 66 and Omega 7 people (the worst of the killing teams -- or murder squads -- of the anti-Castro Cubans in the United States) to run the camps in Florida, Fort Chafey in Arkansas and other places where the Cuban exiles were. These people came in and there were eventually riots in the Cuban refugee camps against their treatment there. And the eventual assassin of John Lennon just happened to work there.


Who Authorized The Assassination Of John Lennon?

It took me almost 22 years to figure out who most likely authorized the assassination of John Lennon, the greatest singer songwriter and the most influential political artist of our time. I believe it could have been the CIA that manipulated the assassin of John Winston Lennon, but more likely, I believe a new army of old school CIA, which was let go under President Carter, manipulated the assassin. I believe the assassin was a mind-control experiment, like all their old tricks of MKULTRA, only much more sophisticated. I believe their old boss authorized it. The person the CIA building in Washington D.C. is named after. I believe he was the same person who tried to assassinate President Ronald Wilson Reagan on his sixty-ninth day in office -- March 30, 1981. He is the person with the most to gain from both of these assassinations. So, who authorized the assassination of John Lennon? I believe it was the 41st President of the United States, George Herbert Walker Bush.

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Lennon's true assassin may have been a hit man supplied by Jewish mobster, Morris Levy.
http://web.archive.org/web/20110428203155/http://jfkmontreal.com/john_ lennon/Usenet/LennonvsLevy.htm

Oct. 9, 2004, Salvador Astucia

In the Seventies, John Lennon had a run-in with a known mobster, Morris Levy. Levy had founded Roulette Records in 1956, and owned copyrights to several songs. Levy wasn't really a music publisher per se, but he realized copyrights were a valuable commodity. So he obtained as many as possible, including rights to Chuck Berry songs and countless others.

Lennon's last album with the Beatles, Abbey Road, included his song "Come Together," which used a lyric from a Chuck Berry song, "You Can't Catch Me," which Levy owned. In 1970, Lennon revealed in an interview that he had borrowed the lyric ("here come ole flat top") from the Berry tune. As a result, Levy sued Lennon, but backed down when Lennon proposed a settlement. His next album would be a collection of oldies, including three songs Levy owned. Recording began in late 1973, but the project was delayed. Morris interpreted the holdup as a breach of settlement. He had dinner with Lennon, who promised to complete the oldies album. Shortly thereafter, Levy asked Lennon if he could borrow the unedited tape of songs intended for the album, just for listening. Lennon complied. When Levy received the tape, he immediately released the songs as a TV mail-order album, Roots. Lennon sued and won.4

If Levy was able to steal an unreleased tape of recordings from a superstar like John Lennon and not be prosecuted as a criminal, then he may have been "protected" at that time by the United States government in exchange for doing the dirty work for certain intelligence agencies. Therefore, it is highly possible that a man like Levy might have supplied certain right-wing factions within the FBI with a hit man to kill Lennon on Dec. 8, 1980, a month before Ronald Reagan's inauguration. Of course, pinning the crime on Chapman wasn't a mob operation. Grooming a patsy and getting the news media to cover up the crime was clearly the work of US intelligence working jointly with Jewish media moguls.

To read excerpts from a Usenet discussion on the topic of John Lennon's law suit against Morris Levy, click here. [see next entire post]


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The FBI's War on Rock Stars

by Salvador Astucia (April 2004)



Sep. 3, 2007 Update -- Response to "Eric B's" hate page.

Salvador sets trap for hate page author, Eric B. It becomes clear that the true author and cyberstalker is Robert Rosen, author of Lennon book, Nowhere Man: The Final Days of John Lennon. Eric B is a fake name used by Mr. Rosen whose recent actions indicate that he conspired with former Air Force Secretary Hans Mark to set up the assassination of ex-Beatle John Lennon. Rosen's assignment was apparently to run a spy ring in Lennon's apartment before his death. Rosen allegedly recruited fake witness Sean Strub who implicated Mark David Chapman immediately after the murder. Also recruited in the spy ring was Fred Seaman, Lennon's personal assistant.













"...It is difficult to criticize the official explanation of what happened to John Lennon because a universally accepted version does not exist. There was no trial, no testimonies, no witnesses. The police report was certainly of little value and the autopsy report is suppressed from public view....Most of the public’s perception of Chapman is hocus-pocus nonsense, half-truths, media spin, and the power of suggestion. A patsy was needed to take the blame for murdering Lennon, so Chapman was set up to take the fall...."



To read more, click here.






















































(Jan. 16, 2006) Discussion with Salvador Astucia



Response to NBC Dateline segment, "The man who shot John Lennon" (by Hoda Kotb) • aired Nov. 18, 2005



Dakota photos show Chapman was standing in the wrong physical location to create entry wounds found in Lennon's body. The phenomenon of false confessions is also discussed. Click here.



To view death certificate, click here.

(critical to Chapman's defense)



New evidence further exonerates Chapman. Analysis of film footage, from Dec. 9, 1980, indicates bullet holes in glass door were probably not created by a gun fired by Chapman. Click here.

Highlights



Mark David Chapman,

accused assassin

"[Lennon's accused killer] Mark David Chapman has never been declared insane by the state of New York or any other governmental body, not at the federal level, not at the state level, and not at the local level...On June 22, 1981, Chapman was given a competency hearing where it was determined that he was not legally insane, and as a consequence, he was sentenced twenty years to life at Attica State Prison...A credible charge was made, in 1993, that [J. Edgar] Hoover had a personal assassination team comprised of hit men supplied by the Genovese Crime family of New York, care of mobster Frank Costello. Although Hoover died in 1972 and Costello died in 1973, it is quite plausible that the ties they allegedly established between the FBI and the Genovese Family remained in place after their respective deaths...In fact, Charlie Manson claims he befriended Costello while the two men were inmates at the Federal Reformatory at Chillicothe, Ohio, long before the Tate murders occurred."
To read more, click here.




Sean Strub (recent photo)



Fake Witness(?)

Sean Strub - Chapman's primary accuser

"Conflicting versions of crime scene and stellar success of 'entrepreneur' and gay rights activist Strub raise unsettling questions about quid pro quo in possible government sponsored hit...Quite simply, is it possible that special doors might have been opened for Strub by powerful individuals within the United States government in exchange for giving false testimony about Chapman before live television cameras shortly after Lennon was killed?"

To read more, click here.




Who really murdered John Lennon?


Jose Joaquin Sanjenis Perdomo

John Lennon's true assassin(?)



(Dec. 30, 2004) Newly discovered information about doorman Jose Perdomo suggests he may have been John Lennon's true assassin and Mark David Chapman was merely a patsy who confessed to the crime while under the spell of relentless mind control techniques such as hypnosis, drug abuse, shock treatment, sleep deprivation, and so on. Perdomo was tasked to provide security for Lennon at the rock star's upscale apartment complex, the Dakota, the night of the murder. Records reveal a "Jose Joaquin Sanjenis Perdomo" (aliases: "Joaquin Sanjenis" and "Sam Jenis") was an anti-Castro Cuban exile and member of Brigade 2506 during the Bay of Pigs Invasion in 1961, a failed CIA operation to overthrow Fidel Castro. Click here.




Edward Teller’s motive for setting up John Lennon’s murder

(July 2, 2005) New information links father of the H-Bomb, the late Edward Teller, and former Air Force Secretary and SDI/Star Wars advocate, Hans Mark, to Lennon's assassination. A major SDI test (code-named Dauphin) was performed in the Nevada Desert, testing laser-nuclear technology, on November 14, 1980, just three weeks before Lennon's murder. The success of Dauphin set the stage for a trillion-dollar defense buildup in the ensuing years. Click here







President Reagan



Reagan (L), Teller (R)

The Reagan Connection - There is no direct evidence linking the late President Ronald Reagan to John Lennon's murder, but it is a fact that Reagan had been elected for his first term as president one month before Lennon was killed. Reagan would eventually push the largest peacetime defense build-up in US history: the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), more commonly known as "Star Wars," named after the popular science-fiction movie. SDI/Star Wars proposed building a massive space-based defensive system to protect America against potential nuclear attacks from the Soviet Union.



President Reagan first proposed the concept in a nationwide television address on March 23, 1983, less than two and a half years after Lennon's murder. The most prominent advocate of SDI/Star wars was the late Edward Teller, one of the leading physicists who helped develop the atomic bomb, was a primary architect of the Hydrogen bomb, and continued to be an ardent promoter of nuclear weapons in general. When the Soviet Union existed, Teller was considered an ultra-right-wing Cold Warrior who opposed JFK's 1963 Test Ban Treaty. Teller was also an ardent Zionist.1



Reagan may not have personally ordered Lennon's assassination, but plans were apparently underway for SDI/Star Wars since day one of the Reagan administration. Lennon was likely unaware of SDI/Star Wars, but it is a safe bet he would have publicly protested the moment he learned of it. Had Lennon lived, there is little doubt he would have attempted to turn public opinion against Star Wars, just as he successfully led the effort--as a major rock star--to turn public opinion against US involvement in Vietnam War in the late Sixties and early Seventies. So the best thing for the Star Wars crowd was a preemptive strike, kill Lennon before he had a chance to object. Hard evidence shows that Jewish thugs (likely spies) penetrated Lennon's inner circle and stole his personal effects. Eventually he was terminated with extreme prejudice under highly suspicious circumstances. After killing him, the Jewish thugs/spies stole his diaries, photos and other personal effects, published them to profit from his murder, and sold his journals to Jewish propagandists who used them as the basis for vulgar books designed to discredit and destroy his memory. The following individuals were key players in the plot to destroy John Lennon:



Fred Seaman, Lennon's personal assistant, was convicted of stealing personal effects from the Lennon estate and was subsequently sentenced to five years of probation.





Discredited writer Robert Rosen may have conspired with Seaman to steal personal effects from Lennon's estate (such as diaries and tapes) which were used to publish a book, Nowhere Man, to discredit Lennon. Rosen stated in his book, Nowhere Man, that he was once a speech writer for the Secretary of the Air Force, but he failed to disclose the identity of this individual. He also stated that he wrote erotica for men's magazines. To learn more about Mr. Rosen, click here.





Hans Mark was Secretary of the Air Force when Lennon was killed and was a leading advocate of the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI, commonly known as "Star Wars") during the Reagan administration. Mark and his father, Herman Mark, were both friends and colleagues of Edward Teller. Hans Mark's paternal grandfather, Herman Carl Mark, was Jewish, and frequently dined with prominent Jews, including Theodor Herzl, the father of Zionism.3



To read recent Usenet exchanges about the Star Wars connection, click here.





Nixon & Elvis

Myths about Nixon & Lennon

Lennon placed more blame on leftist Jerry Rubin than on Nixon for the harassment he and Yoko endured from the United States Government in the early 1970s. "Jerry couldn't keep his damn mouth shut, as usual," Lennon told Playboy reporter David Sheff in the fall of 1980. "He was already on the press, blabbing off. Jerry told Rolling Stone there was going to be a San Diego concert with John and Yoko and their friends. Even though we had no plan of going to San Diego, the Right must have been looking and said, 'Anyone who seems to be powerful enough to be used by these crazy radicals is dangerous, so therefore, why have them here?'...I understand their feeling precisely. I don't agree with them, but I understand where they are coming from."



To read more, click here.




Lennon's true assassin may have been a hit man supplied by Jewish mobster, Morris Levy.



To read more, click here.





J. Edgar Hoover,

Director of FBI for half a century (1924-1972)



FBI Files on the Early Beatles (1964) - It is widely known that the FBI kept files on John Lennon when he and Yoko Ono began their political activities in 1969. But few people are aware that the Bureau ran surveillance on the Beatles when the British Invasion began in 1964.



To view FBI documents on the early Beatles, click here.



The Church Committee - "In the mid-1970s, Idaho Senator Frank Church conducted a broad investigation of US intelligence agencies. The formal name of the investigative body was the "Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities," more commonly known as the 'Church Committee.' Although the committee is widely known for uncovering misconduct within the entire US intelligence community, particularly the CIA, a close examination of the Committee’s reports reveal enormous corruption within the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover, who served as the Bureau’s director for 48 years, from 1924 until his death on May 2, 1972....The Bureau labeled anti-war activists as the 'New Left' and rationalized that 'some of these activists were urging revolution and calling for the defeat of the United States in Vietnam.'...Certainly John Lennon fit the FBI’s definition of the New Left since he wrote a song entitled 'Revolution' and staged two bed-ins opposing the Vietnam War..."



To read more, click here.



To read about FBI/Zionist control of the news media, click here.



To read about FBI surveillance of the Internet, click here.





























































The Beatles, Shea Stadium, August 15, 1965











Beatles at Shea Stadium, 1965 - "...A contingency plan for Lennon’s assassination was likely established in 1965 after the Beatles’ unprecedented performance at Shea Stadium before 55,600 hysterical fans. After this event, it was apparently decided that the Beatles had become too powerful. The following year, 1966, the Beatles’ worldwide tour was plagued with adversity: Ku Klux Klan rallies in America; their security was intentionally dropped in Manila; someone threw an exploding firecracker on stage in Memphis which sounded like a gun, the entire Beatles’ entourage thought Lennon had been shot. These events ultimately caused the Beatles to stop touring forever..."



To read more, click here.











McCartney

Paul McCartney - Read a realistic portrayal of the relationship between Lennon and McCartney, similar to the movie "Amadeus" about Mozart. Imagine McCartney as composer Antonio Salieri obsessed with jealousy toward the superior prodigy Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (Lennon). "Compelling evidence suggests that, in 1966, Paul McCartney and Capitol Records began to sabotage John Lennon’s music...."

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EMI's possible role in 1966 anti-Lennon campaign:...besides being a record company [with whom the Beatles had a recording contract], Electrical and Musical Industries (EMI) was a weapons contractor to the British War Office. This means a high-ranking official within the American government, like President Lyndon B. Johnson, for example, could have easily made a phone call to EMI's then-chairman, Sir Joseph Lockwood, and expressed concern that this John Lennon fellow had too much influence over the young people in America and any help by EMI to rein him in would be very much appreciated by the United States government...According to [Beatles biographer] Philip Norman, the Prime Minister of Britain, Harold Wilson, had called Sir Joseph Lockwood at least once [in 1965]...RCA also owned a major part of EMI...RCA was led for 50 years by David Sarnoff...During World War II, Sarnoff served on General Eisenhower's staff as a communications consultant and was promoted to brigadier general. Even more interesting, a Britannica article on Sarnoff states the following: 'As a boy in Russia Sarnoff spent several years in preparing for a career as a Jewish scholar of the Talmud.'"



To read more, click here.



Other mysterious deaths















Jimi Hendrix - "Dr. John Bannister—the physician who worked on Hendrix initially at the St Mary Abbot's Hospital—has stated unequivocally in recent years that Hendrix was drowned in red wine in 1970, not from drowning in his own vomit or from a drug overdose. His lungs were filled with red wine, although the alcohol level in his blood was low..."

To read more, click here.





Hendrix









Jim Morrison - "One of the last places Morrison visited during his final days was Marseilles [France]. In my book, Opium Lords, I concluded that President Kennedy’s assassins were [French Corsicans] recruited in Marseilles, probably at the behest of the FBI, because the Bureau was created by a member of a famous Corsican family, the Bonapartes. In 1908, the Bureau was created by Attorney General Charles Joseph Bonaparte, great nephew of Napoleon Bonaparte..."



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Morrison

















Janis Joplin - "Contrary to popular belief, Janis Joplin did not accidentally overdose on heroin; she injected a lethal batch of heroin which killed not only her, but several other heroin users who used the same batch given to them by Joplin’s dealer..."

To read more, click here.



Joplin





Brian Jones - "Frank Thorogood confessed, on his death bed in 1994, to murdering Brian Jones in 1969. Witnesses have corroborated Thorogood’s story, claiming that Thorogood and two others held Jones underwater in the rock star’s swimming pool until Jones had drowned...."

To read more, click here.



Jones





Kurt Cobain - "There is little doubt that Kurt Cobain was murdered in 1994. He died of a shotgun blast to the head, and his death was quickly ruled suicide, but no legible fingerprints were found on the shotgun, on the box of cartridges nearby, or on the pen used to write a suspicious-looking suicide note. In addition, the autopsy report revealed Cobain’s 'blood contained two to three times the fatal dose of heroin.'..."

To read more, click here.



Cobain









Elvis Presley - "Surprisingly, Elvis Presley’s father, Vernon Presley, believed Elvis was murdered and, consequently, Vernon authorized both a private investigation and an autopsy....by the time Elvis died on August 16, 1977, he had probably become a liability to the United States government because he was obsessed with President Kennedy’s assassination, believing the young president and his brother Bobby were both victims of a governmental conspiracy. The House Select Committee on Assassinations—which re-examined the JFK assassination—was underway when Elvis died."

To read more, click here.



Presley













Brian Epstein (Beatles' manager) - "Brian Epstein’s death—on August 27, 1967—was officially ruled an accidental drug overdose, but rumors quickly spread that there was more to the story than the public was told. Consequently, Epstein’s death remains a topic of controversy to this day. Epstein was 32, Jewish and homosexual. Many believe the Beatles would not have achieved their superstar status had it not been for Epstein. He had been their manager for nearly six years—since December 1961—and had witnessed first-hand their rise to worldwide fame. My personal view of Epstein is (a) he was a competent businessman, but not necessarily an outstanding one; (b) he was slightly greedy, taking 25 percent of their earnings, more than an individual member made; (c) he genuinely loved the Beatles as artists and as people; (d) as a gay man, Epstein was extremely attracted to John Lennon; and (e) Lennon used Epstein’s homosexual attraction to his advantage...."



To read more, click here.

Epstein

The Manson Murders (or rather, the unsolved Tate murders....)







Charlie Manson - "Although Manson had spent years in and out of prisons, jails, and reform schools prior to the gruesome murders, he had no history of committing violent crimes...It seems quite odd that someone like Manson would mastermind a grisly mass-murder when his most serious conviction in the past had been car theft...Manson stated that he was acquainted with Mafia boss Frank Costello while serving time at The Federal Reformatory at Chillicothe, Ohio. Costello was a notorious American gangster, noted for his influence with politicians, and close associate of Lucky Luciano. Costello and Luciano were also associates of Meyer Lansky, considered by many to be one of the most powerful mobsters in America after Luciano’s death in 1962. In 1979 the House Select Committee on Assassinations, ending its two-year investigation of the Warren Commission report, linked Lansky with Jack Ruby, the nightclub owner who killed President Kennedy’s accused assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald. In my book, Opium Lords, I assert that Oswald was a patsy, and Lansky was recruited by J. Edgar Hoover to hire French Corsican assassins to kill Kennedy...."



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Rosemary's Baby - "In 1968 Roman Polanski released the renowned horror movie, Rosemary's Baby...about witchcraft and satanic cults. Mia Farrow played the lead character (Rosemary Woodhouse)...Rosemary's Baby made overt references to blood libel, the sacrifice of Gentile babies by Jews. The term blood libel was not used in the movie per se, but the topic of killing babies by witches is a recurring theme...Many of the actors who played the witches were either Jewish or exhibited stereotypes commonly associated with the Jewish culture....The movie was completed in late 1967 and premiered in June 1968....On August 9, 1969, a year after Rosemary’s Baby was released, Roman Polanski’s beautiful young [pregnant] bride, actress Sharon Tate, was brutally murdered along with four other people at a house, in the Bel Air section of Los Angeles, where record producer Terry Melcher—Doris Day’s son—had lived until Polanski and Tate took over the lease in February 1969...."



To read more, click here.





Manson





Love - "According to [Rock journalist and author Barney] Hoskyns, Love was associated with Charlie Manson, the aspiring musician, through Manson family member Bobby Beausoleil, the young man convicted of murdering Gary Hinman. Apparently Beausoleil played rhythm guitar for Love in 1965, when they were named The Grass Roots...Figure [A] is a picture of Love, taken around 1966, which shows them standing or sitting on a spiral staircase. During that period, Love reportedly lived together in a Gothic mansion once owned by actor Bela Lugosi....Could Lugosi’s Gothic mansion be the same place in Topanga Canyon that Charlie Manson called the "Spiral Staircase," the house of drugs, sex and depraved satanic practices?..."



To read more, click here.

Figure A: Love at "Spiral Staircase"(?)



Terry Melcher - "...On August 9, 1969, a year after Rosemary’s Baby was released, Roman Polanski’s beautiful young bride, actress Sharon Tate, was brutally murdered along with four other people at a house, in the Bel Air section of Los Angeles, where record producer Terry Melcher—Doris Day’s son—had lived until Polanski and Tate took over the lease in February 1969....It is also widely documented that Terry Melcher was interested in Manson as a recording artist...."

To read more, click here.

Terry Melcher



Derek Taylor - "...Once [Epstein] was dead and out of the way, one of his former employees, Derek Taylor, began to penetrate the protective fortress that surrounded the Beatles. Taylor had been a personal assistant to Epstein, employed through his company, NEMS, in the early days of the Beatles. Taylor claims he quit NEMS around 1965 because Epstein was a difficult employer, prone to temper tantrums. Taylor’s remarks about Epstein are difficult to corroborate because both men are now deceased. But it is quite possible that Epstein fired Taylor for disloyalty or something of a similar nature. Frankly, the latter scenario seems more likely. Why would someone quit a job as personal assistant to the Beatles’ manager in 1965, at the height of the Beatles’ popularity?..."

To read more, click here.

Derek Taylor, 1995 (deceased)



The Beach Boys & Manson - "...The Beach Boys were deeply involved in the fledgling music career of Charlie Manson. This has been hushed up for years, but it is the truth. Manson wrote a song for the Beach Boys, originally named Cease to Exist, later re-titled Never Learn Not to Love; the latter version being included on the Beach Boys’ 20/20 album....Given the group’s close ties to Charlie Manson, has anyone ever considered the possibility that the Beach Boys themselves are a group of FBI informants, or something comparable? They appear to be artificially propped up by forces other than the public, and they defy many of the basic rules of rock. If one examines the Beach Boys closely, they do not fit the profile of a typical rock ‘n’ roll band, not by a longshot...."

To read more, click here.

The Early Beach Boys



Other Points of Interest





Refuting Pauline Sutcliffe's allegation that John killed her brother, Stuart - "...Pauline mixes first-hand eye-witness accounts with second and third-hand rumor and innuendo. I suppose the strongest part of her claim is she is Stuart’s sister and she claims he told her John assaulted him in Hamburg in May of 1961. ...She claims that according to Stuart, John kicked him in the head; then she insinuates that John was wearing "gold and silver cowboy boots with pointed toes" when the alleged kicking incident occurred....I have examined several photographs of the Beatles in Hamburg and have found only one picture of John, Paul, and George wearing cowboy boots similar to those Pauline described. In most of the Hamburg photographs...John is wearing what appears to be conventional soft leather shoes, whereas, Stuart is wearing shoes or boots with sharp points at the toe...It also seems statistically improbable that on the night John allegedly got drunk enough to beat his best friend senseless, he would wear a type of shoe that he did not normally wear..."

To read more, click here.



George, Stuart & John in Hamburg (John is wearing soft leather shoes)













Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame is a Spook Operation!!!



Milton Maltz



The Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, Ohio was founded in 1986 by renowned Jewish spy, Milton Maltz, who also founded the International Spy Museum (ISM) in Washington, DC. Maltz was a principal, for 42 years, at the Malrite Communications Group, Inc., a corporation which operates radio and TV stations. Maltz founded Malrite in 1956 and served as chairman and CEO until the company was sold in 1998.



To read Usenet exchanges about Maltz and the RRHOF, click here:




SOURCE NOTES:

1

Sources for information about Edward Teller: (1) New York Times obituary (September 10, 2003): http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/10/obituaries/10TELL.html?ex=1090468800 &en=f7f65832c379532f&ei=5070&hp; cached at: http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/cache/eteller/teller_obitnyt.pd f ; (2) Encyclopedia Britannica: Teller, Edward; (3) Teller's Zionist statements were quoted on a website managed by Americans For a Safe Israel (AFSI). According to AFSI, Teller made the following statement: "Israel today constitutes an important element in ensuring the security of the free world. Israel must retain possession of Judea and Samaria and the Gaza Strip. These territories are extremely vital for its security." http://www.afsi.org/OUTPOST/2003DEC/dec5.htm; cached at: http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/cache/afsi_teller/israel.pdf



2

Sources for information about Bob Rosen: (1) Rosen's bio on Amazon.com--as author of Nowhere Man--states that he "has written speeches for the Secretary of the Air Force" and "erotica for men’s magazines": http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0932551513?v=glance&vi=r eviews; cached at: http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/cache/amazon/rosen.pdf; (2) A similar description of Rosen's bio is found at Quick American Archives' (publisher) website: http://www.quickamerican.com/author.htm; cached at: http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/cache/qamerican/rosen2.pdf



3

Sources for information about Hans Mark: (1) Bio from NASA website: http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/Biographies/mark.html; cached at: http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/cache/hmark/nasa.pdf; (2) Interview with Edward Teller (September 30, 1990) where Teller states his friendship with Hans Mark and his half-Jewish father, Herman Mark: http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/tel0int-1; cached at: http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/cache/hmark/achieve.pdf; (3) Information about Hans Mark's father, Herman Mark (Jewish father who dined with T. Herzl), was obtained from the National Academy of Science website:: http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/biomems/hmark.html; cached at: http://www.jfkmontreal.com/john_lennon/cache/hmark/napedu.pdf

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Lennon vs. Jewish Mafia (aka, Morris Levy)
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Subject: John Lennon vs. Jewish Mafia (aka, Morris Levy)
From: cropdustersal@cs.com (Cropdustersal)
Date: 9/27/04 4:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <20040927043424.25357.00000631@mb-m22.news.cs.com>

https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/FC/FC2F5371043C48FDD95 AEDE7B8A49624_Springmeier.-.Bloodlines.of.the.Illuminati.R.pdf

Many Beatle books conceal facts about John Lennon's
death (Peter Brown, for example) and some misrepresent
other facts, particularly those related to John. For
example, many books tell how John sued Morris Levy
in the Seventies for releasing preliminary rock 'n' roll songs
John had recorded for an album that was eventually
released under the name, "Rock 'n' Roll." Books which
mention the Lennon vs. Levy suit generally state that
John won, which he did. But what none of the
books I've read tell you is Morris Levy was organized
crime; more specifically: JEWISH MAFIA. It's common
knowledge within the recording industry that Levy was
Jewish Mafia, but I have not found a single Beatles
book which states it that clearly. While I admire John
Lennon a great deal, this is one thing he did that wasn't
very bright: He sued a ranking member of Jewish Mafia
(even worse, he won). A few years later, John was dead.
Do you think perhaps there was a connection, or are people
going to continue hiding their heads in the sand crying,
Conspiracy Theory?

My point is many Beatles books are completely
full of nonsense. When John Lennon sued Morris
Levy, he essentially took on the Jewish Mafia,
but I have not found any Beatle or Lennon book
that treats this important bit of information with
the significance it deserves.

Salvador


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Francine Schwartz compliments Salvador on his article

NOTE: Francine Schwartz is Paul McCartney's former girlfriend. She was present at several Beatles' recording sessions in the late Sixties.



Subject: Re: John Lennon vs. Jewish Mafia (aka, Morris Levy)
From: waronsex@yahoo.com (MacBeatle)
Date: 9/28/04 8:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <23e30c12.0409280403.390e061f@posting.google.com>

[...]

The truth of Sal's post (and there is some truth
to what he says, esp. in this particular post) is
just too tough for you to deal with, isn't it?

It only took a moment for him to type up something
that not one of you spent even ten seconds reading
much less thinking about!

Even my poor friend ripper misses the point.

Oh well... carry on, people. It's your world, but
the time has long since passed for idle jokes
about the Pop Culture of 35 years ago (and
for idiotic trollposts and ha ha funny flames
about those of us who happened to be born
in the late forties, and yes, about Frannie or
Schwartz who no longer exists) but not one
of you seems to have noticed.

You're actually pitiful. Never thought I'd stick
around even long enough to say so, but you
are.

Have fun.

;-(


Salvador provides more history of Jewish influence on early Rock 'n' Roll

From: Salvador Astucia (cropdustersal@cs.com)
Subject: Re: John Lennon vs. Jewish Mafia (aka, Morris Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Date: 2004-09-30 04:52:42 PST

[...]

[Francine Schwartz]
> The truth of Sal's post (and there is some truth
> to what he says, esp. in this particular post) is
> just too tough for you to deal with, isn't it?
>
> It only took a moment for him to type up something
> that not one of you spent even ten seconds reading
> much less thinking about!

I have to disagree with you there, Francie. I'm quite sure
they read it. Perhaps they were too stupid to grasp
the importance, but they were certainly smart enough
to realize it was a BIG deal. So they probably had to hold
back and wait for instructions from someone more informed.
Then they were probably advised to change the subject
with silly conversation that has nothing to do with the
late Morris Levy.

Notice that these guys are suggesting there's no
such thing as Jewish Mafia and some even
suggest Levy was not Jewish and not a gangster
either. Get a grip, guys.

John may have trusted Levy to a degree, despite
his reputation as a gangster, because Levy had
financed someone Lennon apparently admired as
a teenager: Alan Freed (aka, The Moondog, as
in "Johnny and the...").

When Freed was ruined during the payola scandal
in 1959/60, Levy paid his bills while he drank himself
to death. Of course Levy had also stabbed Freed in the
back with earlier testimony.

Makes one wonder if it's true that Rock 'n' Roll was
originally a Jewish effort to create racial turmoil,
thereby further weakening America's social fabric
and making it easier for "them" to seize power.

Freed originally dealt exclusively with black R & B
artists and he gave the genre the most vulgar
name one could imagine, Rock 'n' Roll, because
amongst many blacks the term was slang for sex.
Of course few whites ever caught on so the joke
was on Freed and Levy.

But when whites like Elvis, Eddy Cochran and
Buddy Holly began playing Rock 'n' Roll, something
unexpected happened. It exploded into a rebellious
art form, something the Talmudists wanted to avoid
at all costs.

So what happened next? That's when they sacrificed
Alan Freed. The man has since been turned into
a saint by many within the music industry. But he
wasn't a saint; he was a drunk and a bit of a crook,
but nothing like Morris. Freed stuck to smalltime
criminal activity like ripping off poor, ignorant
blacks. Like many Jewish crooks in the music
business, Freed put his name on songs he didn't
write so he could collect royalties. But what goes
around eventually comes around. Levy and his pals
in due course used Freed the same way Freed had
used so many others. Freed had been a driving force
in the promotion of early Rock 'n' Roll, but the
payola scandal forced Freed from his throne,
replaced by Rock 'n' Roll eunuch, Dick Clark. Elvis
too had been neutered and drafted, Buddy Holly
was killed in a plane crash (for which a cause
has never been found), Eddy Cochran was killed
in an auto accident, and Chuck Berry was sent
to jail on trumped up charges.

But at least Levy had the decency to pay Freed's
bills after stabbing him in the back. It must have
been the Sicilian influence; certainly not the other.

Salvador
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Salvador replies to critics who question Levy's ties to Organized Crime

From: Salvador Astucia (cropdustersal@cs.com)
Subject: Re: John Lennon vs. Jewish Mafia (aka, Morris Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Date: 2004-10-04 22:23:51 PST

[Salvador]
>> >> ...some even suggest Levy was not Jewish and not
>> >> a gangster either.

[Laura Stoll (9/30/2004)]
>> > I'm very curious to know what was posted that you
>> > interpet that way.

[Salvador]
>> Your comment suggests you are acknowledging the fact
>> that Morris Levy was Jewish and a gangster, which in
>> my view made him "Jewish Mafia".

[spurofthemoment]
> wrong assumption.....being a gangster does not make
> you a member of the mafia.......your view is therefore
> flawed....
>
>
> In fact it is even further flawed because you push that
> he is a member of jewish mafia, not just mafia...therfore,
> you have gone to not only mafia, but jewish mafia...a
> subset of mafia groups?

Organized crime is a mix of different ethnic groups
including but not limited to Jewish and Sicilian families.
If you are offended by my use of the term "Jewish Mafia,"
then I would suggest you are a bit too pedantic for your
own good, too obsessed with political correctness. I refer
to Moishe "Morris" Levy as Jewish Mafia because he was a
Sephardic Jew (a Turk) with close ties to the Genovese
family of New York.(1)

Obviously the Genovese connection is an Italian one,
but my point is Levy was an organized crime figure, of the
Jewish flavor, regardless of who his mob ties were. And
Levy was a powerful force in the recording industry, a
field dominated by Jews at the management level. One of
Levy's Jewish pals in the music industry was Walter
Yetnikoff, former president of CBS Records, who was not
overtly organized crime, but was a big supporter of mobsters
like Joseph Isgro and Fred DiSipio, not to mention Levy
himself.

[spurofthemoment]
> Even going back further we have to take for granted
> that this music publisher is a crook ...Why is he a
> crook?? what are his prior convictions?

Levy wasn't really a music publisher per se, but he
realized copyrights were a valuable commodity. So he
obtained as many as possible, including rights to Chuck
Berry songs and countless others. Levy's direct claim to
fame in the music business was he founded Roulette Records
in 1956. Why do I call Levy a crook? Besides attempting
to rip off John Lennon in the Seventies, in 1988, Levy
was convicted of two counts of conspiracy to commit
extortion. He was sentenced to ten years in prison, but
died of cancer at the age of 62, on May 21, 1990, before
serving a single day.(2)

Is it so difficult to believe that a man like Levy might
have supplied certain right-wing factions within the FBI
with a hit man to kill Lennon in Dec. 1980, a month before
Ronald Reagan's inauguration? Of course, pinning the
crime on Chapman wasn't a mob operation. Grooming a
patsy and getting the news media to cover up the crime
was clearly the work of US intelligence working jointly
with Jewish media moguls.

Salvador

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(1) Fredric Dannen, "Hit Men: Power Brokers and Fast Money
Inside the Music Business" (2003 edition); p 33

(2) ibid; references: founded Roulette Records in 1956
(p 32); convicted in 1988 (p 52); died in 1990 (p 57)


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Salvador recommends book containing Levy's ties to Organized Crime

From: LongTallSally11 (longtallsally11@aol.com)
Subject: Re: John Lennon vs. Jewish Mafia (aka, Morris Levy)
View: Complete Thread (56 articles)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Date: 2004-10-07 21:31:37 PST

[Salvador]
>> You went on to ask why I would refer to a swell
>> guy like Morris Levy as a crook. I replied by reminding
>> folks how only a crook would do what Levy did to
>> John Lennon regarding the "Rock & Roll" (LP) recording
>> sessions. (Levy snatched a cassette tape from
>> Lennon and released it prematurely as an album
>> without Lennon's permission. Lennon sued Levy and
>> won. Now why would anyone ever think Levy was a
>> crook? Smile )

[spurofthemoment]
> immoral yes....criminal probably....sued yes...he lost yes....
> end of story.....
> Does everybody who steals a cassette tape and sells it for
> their own personal gain a member of the mafia????

It depends. If he stole from John Lennon and the local
district attorney didn't prosecute him as a criminal,
then he's most likely Mafia, or some sort of organized
crime figure who does the government's dirty work and is
therefore "protected."

BTW, the tone of your question reveals that you were
not raised in a Christian environment. A Christian
would never consider asking a question which openly
condones theft, but one particular group (that pretends
to be a religion) has no problem with such immoral
behavior.

[Salvador]
>> I also pointed out that in 1988, Levy was convicted
>> of two counts of conspiracy to commit extortion. He
>> was sentenced to ten years in prison, but died of
>> cancer at the age of 62, on May 21, 1990, before
>> serving a single day. Unless you have evidence
>> that Levy's extortion conviction was incorrect,
>> I'd say that's another reason to believe Levy was
>> a crook.

[spurofthemoment]
> [referring to Morris Levy] Crook yes, convicted felon,
> yes...mafia??? no...you need evidence, you don't have
> any evidence....

At least we can agree that Morris Levy was a crook
and a convicted felon.

Regarding the Mafia connection, I did not know Mr. Levy
personally, and I doubt that he carried a badge that said
"Jewish Mafia," "Italian Mafia," or whatever, but I have
found two books about Levy which leave little doubt that
he was in fact a mobster.

One such book, written by Fredric Dannen, is named
"Hit Men: Power Brokers and Fast Money Inside the Music
Business" (2003 edition).

Read page 33 to learn about Levy's mob connections to
the Genovese family of New York.

Dannen has an entire chapter devoted to Levy. After
reading it, I think most reasonable people would
agree that Morris was a bona fide mobster.

Salvador


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chapman didn't kill John Lennon, it was the 'Security Guard' who shot him.
Nixon wanted Lennon dead, because of his anti-Vietnam War proclamations.
I wish I could remember the video I watched years back which certainly convinced me; I have a copy somewhere.
Chapman had been groomed to kill Lennon, but like Sirhan Sirhan with RFK, he was just the Patsy and RFK was killed by a 'security guard' standing behind RFK.
The Mafia and US Intel and other agencies have worked hand-in-glove virtually since the Mafia organised in the States in the late 19th Century.
For years J Edgar Hoover denied there was an organised crime problem in the US, because, just as he maintained his extremely long position as head of the FBI because he had the dirt on virtually everyone, so the mob had the dirt on him.
Virtually all US Administrations at least since JFK have been glorified Mafia Administrations. Trump is a 'perfect' example, and the Clintons are the same.

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