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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look what happened to all the MPs who flipped to remain!

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Every MP who defected from Labour and Tories fails to get re-elected

LUKE O'REILLY
Friday 13 December 2019 11:19
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General Election Night: December 2019 - In pictures
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/every-mp-fails-reelected-a431 2651.html

David Gauke, Chuka Umunna, and Luciana Berger all failed to be re-elected
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Every former Conservative and Labour MP who quit the parties in protest over issues including Brexit and anti-Semitism has failed to be re-elected.

Among them was Tory defector Sam Gyimah, who was met with cries of "shame" after he appeared to split the opposition vote in Kensington and Chelsea, costing Labour's Emma Dent-Coad her seat in a borough still dealing with the aftermath of Grenfell disaster.


The former Conservative ministers David Gauke, Dominic Grieve, and Anne Milton were all ousted by Tory candidates after running as independents in their old constituencies.

Former Labour MPs Luciana Berger and Chuka Umunna, who defected to the Lib Dems, via a brief sojourn in the Independent Group, failed to get re-elected after standing in new seats.

Ms Berger lost after defecting to the Lib Dems (PA)
Here are the big losses from MPs who quit their parties:

Chuka Umunna: On a bad night for the Lib Dems, the former Labour and Independent Group MP for Streatham lost his gamble in switching seats as he trailed the Tories in Cities of London & Westminster.​

Sam Gyimah: The ex-Tory minister, who defected to the Lib Dems because of his Brexit stance, was a distant third in Kensington - the seat changing hands from Labour to the Conservatives.

Anna Soubry: The former Tory, who left the party and became leader of The Independent Group, was unable to command the majority she held when she stood as a Conservative in 2017 - finishing a distant third in Broxtowe on 4,668 votes.

Anna Soubry finished fourth (Jacob King/PA)
Dominic Grieve: A ex-Tory minister, who had the whip removed by Boris Johnson for being a Brexit rebel in the Commons and stood as an Independent, could only place second to his former party in Beaconsfield, losing by 15,712 votes.

Luciana Berger: Having left Labour over the party leadership's handling of anti-Semitism, Ms Berger co-founded the Independent Group but later defected to the Liberal Democrats. A switch of seat from Liverpool Wavertree to Finchley and Golders Green failed to pay off, though, as she trailed the Tories in second.

David Gauke: The former Tory justice secretary lost the whip after supporting efforts in Parliament to block a no-deal Brexit, but he lost out to his former party as he stood as an independent in the South West Hertfordshire seat.​

Former conservative MP Dominic Grieve has been ousted from his seat in Beaconsfield (AFP via Getty Images)
Antoinette Sandbach: Another Brexit rebel who had the Tory whip withdrawn, she joined the Lib Dems and fought for re-election in Eddisbury but failed to command the same majority she won as a Tory in 2017, finishing a distant third.

Mike Gapes: Having resigned from the Labour Party last February over anti-Semitism after 50 years as a member and 27 years as an MP, he failed to hold onto his seat in Ilford North.

Anne Milton: The Brexit rebel suffered a calamitous defeat, coming fourth in a constituency she has represented since 2005.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UNBELIEVABLE
Rothschilds financed Munich-based pan-European union - still very strong to this day - Hapsburgs still in charge!

According to his autobiography, at the beginning of 1924 his friend Baron Louis de Rothschild introduced him to Max Warburg who offered to finance his movement for the next three years by giving him 60,000 gold marks. Warburg remained sincerely interested in the movement for the remainder of his life and served as an intermediate for Coudenhove-Kalergi with influential Americans such as banker Paul Warburg and financier Bernard Baruch. In April 1924, Coudenhove-Kalergi founded the journal Paneuropa (1924–1938) of which he was editor and principal author. The next year he started publishing his main work, the Kampf um Paneuropa (The fight for Paneuropa, 1925–1928, three volumes). In 1926, the first Congress of the Pan-European Union was held in Vienna and the 2,000 delegates elected Coudenhove-Kalergi as president of the Central Council, a position he held until his death in 1972.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_von_Coudenhove-Kalergi#Pan-Europ ean_political_activist

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Reaction as Ken Clarke thrown out of Conservative party - is a general election next?
The Tory grandee and Father of the House has been a Conservative MP for 49 years
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/live-ken-clarke-to ry-brexit-3282056

By Natalie Fahy Digital Editor UPDATED 16:23, 4 SEP 2019

Rushcliffe MP Ken Clarke has had the whip withdrawn from the Conservative party, effectively expelling him.

Mr Clarke, 79, was among 21 rebel Tory MPs who joined opposition parties on Tuesday night to take control of the Commons agenda with the aim of blocking a no-deal Brexit. As well as having the whip withdrawn, they are all barred from standing at the next general election.

He first won his Rushcliffe seat in 1970, and has served under Prime Ministers Margaret Thatcher and John Major in a number of high-profile cabinet positions - including as Chancellor.

After his sacking, Mr Clarke said he was still a conservative but he had reservations about the party under Boris Johnson's leadership.

He told BBC's Newsnight: "I don't recognise this. It's the Brexit Party, rebadged.

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"It's been taken over by a rather knockabout sort of character, who's got this bizarre crash-it-through philosophy... a Cabinet which is the most right-wing Cabinet any Conservative Party has ever produced."

In the House of Commons on Tuesday night, the cross-party group succeeded by 328 to 301 votes to suspend a Commons rule that says only the government can create new laws.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson responded by saying he 'did not want an election', but that he would introduce the necessary law calling for a snap poll on Wednesday. That will require two-thirds of MPs to support it to pass.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brexit Day: ‘I voted Leave in 1975 ...and again in 2016’
By Andrew White @apwecho
https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18199854.brexit-day-i-voted-lea ve-1975-2016/

David Kernek explains why he’ll be in Parliament Square to send up three cheers at 11pm tonight

VOTES in general elections and referenda can change history – making nations and perhaps breaking empires.

They are not, though, sufficiently powerful to change the convictions of those on the losing side, and neither should they be. None of those who I know voted Remain in Britain’s 2016 referendum on European Union membership have changed their minds; some of them have been out on marches, rallies and street stalls to support those in parliament who at the outset declared their respect for the plebiscite result and went on to spend three years attempting shamelessly to have it binned.

Similarly, the result of the UK’s first referendum – the one back in 1975 – on its unenthusiastic involvement in the European project didn’t change my judgement, which was that joining the European Economic Community (EEC) was an error, and that the referendum result confirming that membership was likewise mistaken, as was our then prime minister Harold Wilson when, in welcoming the Remain vote, he declared: “It means that 14 years of national argument are over.”

During those 14 years I read up on the history of the European movement from its origins in 1918, when the founder of the Fiat motor company wrote a book – European Federation or League of Nations – which argued the case for the former. He was followed in 1922 by the son of an Austrian diplomat who wrote Pan Europa, in which Count Richard Coudenhove Kalergi proposed a merger of the German coal and French steel industries that would be the basis of a federal “United States of Europe”.

I had taken the trouble to read the Treaty of Rome. I studied the arguments against membership set out by the Left and the Right, and thought carefully about those put up by the Sensible Centre, most of which – then as now – seemed to be about the frictionless sale and distribution of cars, kettles and cattle.

I looked back at the contribution made by General de Gaulle who, as France’s president, not once but twice – in 1963 and 1967 – rejected British applications to join, citing “a number of aspects of Britain’s currency, economy, from working practices to agriculture” that made “Britain incompatible with Europe”, adding that the UK harboured a “deep-seated hostility” to the pan-European project.

“England,” he summarised, momentarily overlooking the fraying union known as the United Kingdom, “is insular, she is maritime, she is linked through her exchanges, her markets, her supply lines to the most diverse and often the most distant countries; she pursues essentially industrial and commercial activities, and only slight agricultural ones. She has in all her doings very marked and very original habits and traditions. In short, the nature, the structure, the very situation that are England’s differ profoundly from those of the continentals.” He knew it wouldn’t work.

That swung it for me. I voted Leave in 1975 and, having since then read or seen nothing to bring about a change of mind, did so again 2016. From Rome to Lisbon, via Maastricht, Amsterdam and Nice, each EU treaty has been a building block in the construction of a fantasy country called Europe, a dystopia that will sooner or later implode beneath the weight of its own insoluble economic, political, social and cultural contradictions. Which is why at 11pm today I shall with many thousands of others be in Parliament Square, Westminster, to cheer and applaud if not the definitive termination of the UK’s European Union membership, then at least the decisive and irreversible half-way stage to that end.

Going into Europe was not seen by most of the English – as the general might have said – as anything remotely resembling an historic change. It was just about shifting those cars and kettles and for some, perhaps, the promise of better nosh here and a modest villa in Provence or Tuscany. For the political class and Her Majesty’s Commentariat, the EEC offered a world stage and a gravy train to replace those provided previously by the empire.

The Foreign Office’s deeper thinkers might have had a more strategic bent, as Sir Humphrey explained in Yes, Minister (1980):

Sir Humphrey: “Minister, Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last 500 years: to create a disunited Europe. In that cause we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians. Divide and rule, you see … We had to break the whole thing [the EEC] up, so we had to get inside. We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn’t work. Now that we’re inside we can make a complete pig’s breakfast of the whole thing.”

Minister: “But surely we’re all committed to the European ideal?”

Sir Humphrey: “Really, minister!”

Well, that hasn’t worked, as evidenced by the 52,741 laws* – directives and regulations – that since 1990 have been generated by EU legislation and imported without hindrance into Britain’s statute book.

The point is not that all of these laws might be rubbish; some might be judged beneficial, others damaging in one way or another. The point is that they have been laws not made by governments that can be turfed out by electors. They have been laws not made here … or in Athens, Berlin, Rome, Vienna and the rest. Leaving the EU, then, will be historic in a sense that slithering half-heartedly into the EEC on January 1, 1973 wasn’t.

That’s why I’ll be in Parliament Square at 11pm tonight, to send up three cheers – at long last – for home rule, and for a precious European ideal that pre-dates the EU by some centuries: democracy.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nigel Farage's dramatic final speech at the European Parliament ahead of the Brexit vote

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brexit breakthrough: George Orwell's brilliant analysis explains why Britain left EU
BREXIT will continue to spark passionate debates for years to come - but George Orwell, one of Britain's most treasured thinkers, may have provided the perfect explanation behind the UK's decision to withdraw from the EU.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1261858/brexit-news-eu-latest-george -orwell-analysis-boris-johnson-uk-spt

Take his best-known novels, Animal Farm and 1984. The specifics, of course, are different but both fictional works make Orwell’s deep-seated scepticism for centralisation clear for all to see.

His world view in 1984 is particularly evident as Orwell actively separates the UK from Europe in his dystopian geopolitical vision.

Dubbed ‘Air Strip One’, Britain’s allegiances are with ‘Oceania’ – made up of North, Central and South America, Australia, New Zealand and southern Africa – and this huge cluster of nations fights perpetual war with ‘Eurasia’ – made up of Russia and continental Europe.

The parallels to contemporary Brexit discourse are uncanny here, as the Leave side repeatedly highlight the strength of Britain’s relationship with the US and the Commonwealth as a counter-argument to Remain points about maintaining close ties with Brussels.

Indeed, in many ways it appears that a post-Brexit US-UK trade deal could be more achievable than a UK-EU deal in the months and years ahead.

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