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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:59 am    Post subject: New 9/11 Timeline Entries: Bush on 9/11 & More Reply with quote

From the History Commons Groups blog:

New 9/11 Timeline Entries: President Bush's Actions on September 11 and More

A large number of entries have been added to the Complete 9/11 Timeline at History Commons, most of which provide important details about the actions of President George W. Bush and his entourage on September 11, 2001.

President Bush Visited a School in Florida

President Bush received his daily intelligence briefing early in the morning of September 11, but the briefing included nothing about terrorism. A short time later, numerous members of his staff learned that a plane had crashed into the World Trade Center as his motorcade headed to the Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida, and yet no one told him what had happened at that time.

Bush was told about the crash for the first time by Deborah Loewer, director of the White House Situation Room, after his limousine arrived at the school. Subsequently, his senior adviser, Karl Rove, also told him about the crash. However, the president still took his time chatting with members of the official greeting party at the school, even though he was told he had to take an important call from National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice.

Secret Service agents who were with the president were unable to obtain any information about the crash at the WTC from their colleagues in Washington, DC, after they arrived at the school. Meanwhile, Mike Morell, Bush's CIA briefer, called the CIA's operations center when he reached the school and learned that the North Tower had been hit by a large commercial airliner. But personnel on Air Force One were unable to obtain precise information about what was happening, even after the second hijacked plane crashed into the WTC, at 9:03 a.m., and one officer wondered if a nation-state was behind the attacks.

Despite what had happened in New York, Bush decided to continue with the scheduled event at the school and at 9:02 a.m. entered a classroom to listen to the children there reading. A short time later, Andrew Card, his chief of staff, learned that a second plane had hit the WTC, and immediately thought Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda were responsible. Minutes later, Card entered the classroom and told the president that America was "under attack."

White House press secretary Ari Fleischer then held up a message for the president, instructing him, "DON'T SAY ANYTHING YET." Bush therefore remained seated and listened to the children reading a story about a pet goat for the next five minutes. Even after the children finished the story, Bush stayed in the classroom to ask them questions and talk to the school's principal.

Bush's Staffers Were Concerned that Terrorists Would Attack the School

Major Paul Montanus, Bush's military aide, wanted the president and his entourage to leave the school when he saw the second crash live on TV, and yet no evacuation took place at that time. And after the second crash occurred, Secret Service agents and other staffers accompanying the president were concerned that Bush could be in danger, with some of them worrying that terrorists might try to attack the school. But even after the reading demonstration ended, Bush was allowed to stay at the school.

Secret Service agents apparently only prepared to get him away from there at around 9:30 a.m. The motorcade only left the school to take the president and his entourage to Air Force One at around 9:34 a.m., more than half an hour after the second attack on the WTC took place.

The Secret Service was concerned that Bush might be attacked by terrorists as he was being driven to the Sarasota airport and provided his limousine with extensive security. During the journey, Bush talked to Condoleezza Rice using a cell phone and she told him the Pentagon had been attacked. The president and his entourage arrived at the airport by around 9:45 a.m. and then boarded Air Force One.

Palestinian Group Reportedly Claimed Responsibility for the Attacks

New timeline entries describe how, around that time, it was reported that a radical Palestinian group called the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) had claimed responsibility for the attacks on the WTC. But a short time later, the group publicly denied being behind the attacks.

Bush asked Mike Morell about the DFLP's reported claim while Air Force One flew from Sarasota to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana and Morell said the group lacked the capability to carry out the attacks. Morell then called CIA headquarters, spoke to Cofer Black, director of the CIA's Counterterrorist Center, and was told by him that the agency knew "little beyond what the rest of the world knew" about the attacks.

As Air Force One approached Barksdale, Ari Fleischer told the reporters on board that Bush was being evacuated "for his safety and the safety of the country." After the plane landed at the base, a member of Congress on board asked Morell who he thought was behind the attacks on the United States and Morell said he was sure al-Qaeda was to blame. Later on, after the plane took off from the base, Bush asked Morell the same question and Morell again answered that he was certain al-Qaeda was responsible.

While he was at Barksdale, Bush argued with his colleagues about where he should go next and was told it was unsafe for him to return to Washington. At 2:50 p.m., after leaving Barksdale, his plane landed at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska, where personnel had been preparing for his possible arrival. Remarkably, a local TV channel had people at the base and was therefore able to show live coverage of Air Force One landing there. After getting off his plane, Bush was taken to a command center several stories underground where he was given an update on the attacks.

When Air Force One left Offutt, at around 4:30 p.m., the plane finally headed toward Washington. During the journey to the capital, Morell passed on to Bush all the information the CIA by then had relating to the attacks, which included a warning that a group of al-Qaeda terrorists might be in the US, preparing for a second wave of attacks. Meanwhile, fearing that there could be a biological attack on the US, Dr. Richard Tubb, the White House physician, gave all the passengers on Air Force One a week's worth of Cipro, a drug used to treat anthrax.

Bush Had Problems Communicating with Washington

Several timeline entries describe the significant problems Bush experienced communicating with his colleagues in Washington while the attacks were underway and throughout the day of 9/11. His attempts at making calls on a secure line while he was being driven from the Booker Elementary School to the Sarasota airport were unsuccessful because all the secure lines were down. And along with his staffers, he had problems communicating with colleagues in Washington after Air Force One left Sarasota.

White House counsellor Karen Hughes tried calling Bush from the capital but, to her alarm, the operator said he was unable to connect her to Air Force One. Additionally, Bush and his staffers were limited in their awareness of the catastrophe that was taking place because the TV reception on the plane was weak and intermittent.

Lives Were Saved by Orders that Kept Police Officers Away from the WTC

A few entries describe incidents that occurred in New York, shortly before and shortly after the first WTC tower collapsed. Numerous members of New York Police Department's elite Emergency Service Unit avoided dying in the collapse because they were given an order that meant they had to get out of the WTC or delay going into it.

Around the same time, Joseph Morris, a commanding officer with the Port Authority Police Department (PAPD), told numerous PAPD officers to initially stay away from the Twin Towers after they arrived near the WTC and thus likely prevented many of them from being killed when the South Tower collapsed, at 9:59 a.m. After the South Tower came down, Morris ordered that the PAPD's command bus be moved further away from the WTC and thereby likely prevented those in it being killed when the North Tower collapsed, at 10:28 a.m.

Finally, a couple of entries describe events that occurred before September 11. Around late July 2000, the Joint Forces Intelligence Command held a briefing in which the WTC and the Pentagon were identified as the buildings in the US most likely to be attacked by terrorists. And in June 2001, ABC News reporter John Miller gave a speech in which he discussed the growing indications that Osama bin Laden planned to carry out an attack in the US.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again, Shoestring.

    A) Is there confirmation that uninvited middle-eastern "reporters" want to interview Bush first thing in the morning (suggesting that Bush could have been targeted for an assassination attempt)?
    B) When did the "Angel is next" message arrive (in the timeline above)?
    C) Did Air Force One take off without a flight plan (as been reported elsewhere)?
    D) How far is the school from the supposed hub of 9/11 hijackers that attended flight school in the area?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just checking through one of the links

Richard Rotanz
NYC OEM

http://www.christianregenhardcenter.com/urban-hazards/Papers/Transcrip t_WTC_Session.pdf

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On that fateful day, when we lost a lot of our friends and loved ones, we [Office of Emergency Management] were at work presenting a case for the next day’s operations at Pier 92. On September 12 we were going to be performing a major time study for biological hazards drill on how we were going to prophylax and medicate 8 million people in New York City, if god forbid, everyone was exposed to anthrax. So at that particular point, where the arrow was pointed at 7 World Trade Center, we were facing the direction of the first jet that was approaching Tower One, and when Tower One was struck by the first plane, myself and two other fellows went down to the Fire Safety Director’s office on the mezzanine level of Tower One to start and initiate the inter agency unified field command, and when the fire department showed up with Chief Pete Hayden, police, and field response executives, I myself then went back to World Trade Center Seven, and while walking through the pavilion of the World Trade Center, Tower Two got hit and I put my Keds sneakers on and headed back to World Trade Center Seven. Once I was back into the EOC operations we did a threat analysis and it didn’t take long, especially when the CIA and Secret Service and FBI folks were up there waiting for me saying the Pentagon’s been hit, there’s one ditched in Pennsylvania, and I think there’s one or two birds missing in the air that we can’t find right now. With that, we evacuated Building Seven and made sure that entire building was evacuated, and sent all of the folks up north, toward Canal Street.


This one clip reveals quite a few er... details...

"September 12 .... biological hazards drill ... if god forbid, everyone was exposed to anthrax" - an amazing level of awareness of the anthrax attacks that was about to occur...

"...Chief Pete Hayden, police, and field response executives..." lots of high priced help immediately on the scene.

"...Once I was back into the (WTC7) EOC operations we did a threat analysis and it didn’t take long, especially when the CIA and Secret Service and FBI folks were up there waiting for me..." CIA and Secret Service, ok, they have offices there. But FBI as well?

"...saying the Pentagon’s been hit, there’s one ditched in Pennsylvania, and I think there’s one or two birds missing in the air that we can’t find right now."
- this gives a timeline of between 9.37 to 10.04 yet WTC2 collapses at 9.57 meaning he couldn't have known about Pennsylvania. Perhaps he misspoke. This means that WTC7 was evacuated between 9.37 and 9.57 because Barry Jennings was in the building at 9.57 and the building was empty. Perhaps Barry was going up in the elevator as everyone was going down the stairs?

I suppose this hangs together... however he claims he was wandering around the area as WTC1 came down and in and out of WTC7... doesn't have much to say about its collapse...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scienceplease 2 wrote:
Thanks again, Shoestring.

    A) Is there confirmation that uninvited middle-eastern "reporters" want to interview Bush first thing in the morning (suggesting that Bush could have been targeted for an assassination attempt)?
    B) When did the "Angel is next" message arrive (in the timeline above)?
    C) Did Air Force One take off without a flight plan (as been reported elsewhere)?
    D) How far is the school from the supposed hub of 9/11 hijackers that attended flight school in the area?

My answers:

A) I covered this in my article "Targeting the President: Evidence of U.S. Government Training Exercises on 9/11," in which I suggested that this incident was part of a Secret Service training exercise. See: http://shoestring911.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/targeting-president-eviden ce-of-us.html

B) The "Angel is next" message was received at the White House around 10:30 a.m. See: http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a1030threateningcall&sc ale=0

C) I don't know if Air Force One took off from Sarasota without a flight plan. However, in the 9/11 Commission Report, on p. 39 it states: "Air Force One departed [Sarasota] at about 9:54 without any fixed destination. The objective was to get up in the air—as fast and as high as possible—and then decide where to go."

D) I assume you are referring to Venice, Florida, where Mohamed Atta and Marwan Al Shehhi took flying lessons. Venice is 17 miles as the crow flies from Sarasota and either 19 or 24 miles by road according to these two websites:
https://www.distance-cities.com/distance-sarasota-fl-to-venice-fl
http://www.trippy.com/distance/Venice-FL-to-Sarasota

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:54 pm    Post subject: Apparently there was a Hurricane heading to NY on 9/11 Reply with quote

Things could have been very different Surprised
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Erin_(2001)

http://thevane.gawker.com/rain-and-a-hurricane-almost-changed-the-cour se-of-histo-1729963223

Rain and a Hurricane Almost Changed the Course of History on September 11, 2001

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Everyone remembers the weather fourteen years ago. Every remembrance story, every “where were you when” conversation, every newscast before the attacks mentions how the sky was a brilliant, deep shade of blue the morning the world turned upside down. However, had the sky not been as clear as it was that day—if the hurricane off the coast of New England hadn’t ricocheted toward Canada—it’s very possible that the weather could have permanently changed the course of both American and world history.

Everyone Remembers the Weather Thirteen Years Ago
When something major happens in our lives, we remember the strangest details. The smell of the car, …
Understandably lost in that particular news cycle was the fact that there was a pretty scary looking hurricane sitting a few hundred miles off the Northeast coast on September 11, 2001. In the waning days of summer and long before social media came around, such a storm at the peak of hurricane season was unremarkable—if not unknown—to most in the country unless watches and warnings were hoisted along the coast.

Hurricane Erin was your classic Cape Verde system, a tropical cyclone that’s born from the waves of thunderstorms that push off the western coast of Africa in August and September. The storm strengthened to a category three with maximum winds of 120 MPH as it passed northeast of Bermuda, and started on a gradual weakening trend by the time it made its closest approach to the United States on September 11.


The preceding day was one of those murky, late summer days you’re used to on the East Coast. The high temperature at New York’s Central Park on September 10, 2001, was a balmy 86°F with heavy showers and thunderstorms in the area. Caught under one of those showers, the weather station’s rain gauge measured just over an inch of rain, all thanks to a fall-like cold front swinging through the area from the Midwest.

By the morning of September 11, the cold front had pushed out into the Atlantic Ocean, allowing high pressure to build across most of the eastern United States in its wake. The result was the first deep, gorgeous blue sky many folks had seen in a long time, as the sky had usually been obscured by layers of clouds or that ugly summer haze up to that point.

It was remarkable, so much so that the sky permanently etched itself in the minds of so many people that morning.

If the cold front had moved just a bit slower, the weather might not have been as beautiful as it was on September 11. The timing of the frontal passage cleared the skies and allowed the hijacked flights to depart without delay, also affording those b****** clear visibility along their flight paths. Not only that, but the cold front also kept Hurricane Erin from drawing closer to the United States, which likely would have affected both weather and air travel in New York and Boston as airlines prepared for a potential strike from a formidable hurricane.

Adverse weather that morning would have been the butterfly effect in action—one small change in the starting conditions could have had a dramatic impact on the end result. A simple, lingering batch of rain or clouds, or even the effects of Hurricane Erin in the megalopolis on September 11, 2001, could have changed both history and the world as we know it.

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