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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:33 am    Post subject: UK Stop the War Coalition STWC John Rees: 'no false flags' Reply with quote

From: John
To: office@stopwar.org.uk
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 5:06 AM
Subject: Are the (UK) StWC and others against or (unwittingly) supporting fascism?

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/

Dear Stop the War Coalition,

Some reasonable questions here:

I wonder why there's no mention on the StWC website front page about Iran?
I wonder why there's no mention of 9-11, of where the 'war on terror' began?
I wonder, I wonder why, because
"If we fail to expose the Lie, we become part of the Lie."


Please read the following carefully.

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[EXCERPT]

Numerous prominent gatekeepers have recently said that 9/11 truth is a "distraction", and "takes energy away from working on more important issues". Are they right?

Actually, 9/11 is the core issue, the central knot which holds all of the other tyrannical actions of the last 6 years together. When the central knot of 9/11 lies is pulled, it will cause the entire fascist mess to unravel.

Here's why:

• The administration's false claims linking Iraq and 9/11 helped convince a large portion of the American public to invade Iraq. At the time, the Iraq-911 link was at least as important in many people's minds as the fake WMDs as a reason to invade Iraq.

• The trauma of September 11, 2001 is what galvanized many Americans to rally around the Bush administration, to close ranks in a time of peril, and to give the commander in chief his supposed "mandate" (there was obviously election fraud).

Ever since 9/11, the American people have been terrified -- and thus irrational -- based upon the trauma of the vicious attacks. Since most Americans believe that the bad guys are "out there" and are about to get us unless we have a strong leader to fight them, they will not and CANNOT make any logical decisions about any other foreign or domestic issues -- including withdrawal from Iraq -- until "we get the bad guys". Numerous scientific studies show that people whipped into a state of fear can't make logical decisions. Unless we unwind the source of their fear -- the false belief that a guy living in a cave defeated all of America's defenses and that he's out to get us again -- people will keep on acting irrationally.

• The government policy of torture would not have been tolerated if we weren't misled into thinking that Saddam and Al-Qaeda had formed an unholy, all-powerful alliance on 9/11, and had to be stopped at any costs.

• The Bush administration has also used 9/11 as an excuse for domestic spying without warrant, and will use 9/11 as an excuse for every other unconstitutional, undemocratic, unAmerican destruction of civil liberties which it undertakes.

• Even after all of the government's lies have come out, Americans are still terrified about Arabs with weapons. Moreover, since Americans are still largely ignorant about the use of "false flag operations" by governments to justify wars, Americans will fall for a faked provocation. In other words, the fact that 9/11 has not been exposed as a false flag operation will enable the neoconservatives to use another faked terror incident in order to justify a war against Iran.

9/11 truth has the power to unravel fascism. By proving that our country cannot so easily be attacked without the complicity of insiders, 9/11 truth will pull the rug out from beneath the fear-based hysteria which has gripped our country and our world. As the fear decreases, people will start to emerge from their mental bunkers, and to reassess whether they are willing to tolerate fascism, injustice, and imperial wars based upon false pretenses.

Rather than being a distraction, 9/11 truth is thus crucial for anyone who cares about America, liberty, justice or peace.


For the complete article, see:
http://911blogger.com/node/12046

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http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=92245#92246
http://www.flybynews.com/cgi-local/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid11928178 95,82605,


"We know that it is strictly impossible for any building, much less
steel columned buildings, to "pancake" at free fall speed.
Therefore, it is a non-controversial fact that the official
explanation of the collapse of the WTC buildings is false."

-- Paul Craig Roberts
Assistant Secretary U.S. Treasury under President Reagan

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http://911blogger.com/node/12046

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The German people were whipped up into a state of hysteria and fear, because they thought they were under attack by communists, and Poles, and "bad guys" in general. The German's were in shock, and rallied around their "strong" leader. Without first exposing that the Reichstag fire and Operation Himmler - the two things which were the source and root cause of the German people's fears, and which allowed the German parliament and other institutions to hand Hitler total power -- the sweeping away of worthy causes by the wave of fear could not be stopped.

Americans are crazed by the fear of Arab terrorists just like Germans were terrified of communist and Polish terrorists. Both peoples have handed over all of their power to their leaders in order to buy an imaginary security.

The Nazis might have been brought to justice well before the Nuremberg trials if the Reichstag hoax had been exposed at the time. The German people might have snapped out of their false-flag-induced state of hysteria which prevented them from thinking clearly. They could have been spared the horrors inflicted on their nation and the world by the Nazis. And sanity could have been preserved in 1930's-era Germany.

Would that have been a mere "distraction" for the Germans? Is it today for the people of America? The answer is clearly no.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done John! Very clearly argued!

Let us know if you get any reply. I fear you will not get more than a bureaucratic one. You can't change attitudes by writing to the office of a loose coalition.

We have to change grassroots attitudes within the Stop the War coalition, and they have shifted somewhat since we've been around. Voicing 9/11 truth issues within Stop the War meetings is often met by vociferous anger and denials that it is an issue from leading StW activists, and with much support, interest and desire to know more from grassroots audiences, so it is worthwhile plugging away at it.

It is also worthwhile making clear that the 9/11 Truth Campaign is not a rival to StW, but a supporter of their aims. Those who complain we are nicking their members, should be reminded that we have no membership. If our supporters within StW stop being activists within that coalition, it is not because they cease to support the aims of StW but because they get frustrated by the anger and denial coming from certain members of the StW leadership.

A StW coalition which encompassed a faction who were intent on uncovering the truth about 9/11 would pose no threat to them or their leadership, provided that leadership were open-minded about the issue. Of course it would be impossible for StW as a whole to take a 9/11 truth line, because they encompass factions which are opposed to it. But that is not what we are trying to achieve, merely tolerance.

The national Stop the War conference takes place in London next Saturday, 27th Oct. Details here: http://www.stopwar.org.uk/ It is now too late to register as a delegate, but we will have supporters there and I think it would be worthwhile to distribute your open letter, or something based on it, as a leaflet.

Next Saturday will be very busy with lots of relevant stuff going on, so it would be worthwhile organising a group to leaflet/picket that event to make sure it does not get forgotten.

Let's see who's interested in this.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just read this from Lambeth Stop the War:

Saturday 27th October: Stop the War National Conference, We can send four delegates and as many observers as wish to attend. If you would like to be a delegate please contact lamb_stw@yahoo.co.uk (see National Stop the War website http://www.stopwar.org.uk/)

So presumably, though it is now too late to register as a delegate, there's nothing to stop anyone attending as an observer.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An ex-SWP national committee member told me that Alex Callinicos was a stringer for the intelligence services The SWP hold definite sway in the StW campaign as in much else of the leftist agenda.
The committed folk will be the last dragged screaming no to the NWO agenda. Agreed let's take the less trained loudmouths off them
Competition? well we should be

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! We know about MI5 and SWP, but we should not make the mistake of thinking penetration by security services means they have total control - influence yes, but our job is to counter that influence and there are many good-hearted people who can be reached so long as we take care not to come across as crazy fanatics.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xmasdale wrote:
there are many good-hearted people who can be reached so long as we take care not to come across as crazy fanatics.

I think maybe we are. I certainly regard myself as obsessive. It's the only true way to be in the current situation. There's nothing more important than exposing what's happening.
I really feel short of practical skills, but as you know, Noel, we have to take that risk

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm told I'm obsessive about it too, which seems to make difficulties for me socially. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xmasdale wrote:
I'm told I'm obsessive about it too, which seems to make difficulties for me socially. Laughing

Oh yes - social difficulties. We all ought to live in a cave somewhere.
Where we wouldnt have to talk about it because we all know

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
We all ought to live in a cave somewhere


That seems a dangerous precedent to set. Pretty soon we'll be accused of outwitting the west's best defences with a little weed and some orgon generators, helping to justify an attack on Iran. Mr A is a truther from a remote region of bomb-ability afterall, and if they know there are lots of us down there, they may just be able to produce some schematics of our elaborate bunker systems. Of which we have lots. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont actually think we should be criticising STW
after all are we not all on the same side?
We should concentrate our efforts on the real targets.

STW are probably saying the same things about us dont forget

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years ago I came up with a new term for the "STW", which was the
...Stop the Truth.

If one sticks to the hymn sheet........Iraq war is for oil....blame Bush + Blair....throw in capitalism if one wishes, then the "STW" will welcome you.

However, since 9/11 may involve Jews + Israel in a negative light, this has become a no go area for "STW", SWP, Respect party, etc.

Obviously, chicken soup + chomsky encourage selective sight + a desire to paddle in de nile.

I am sure there are still some in the above organisations with a receptive mind to the truth. Good luck in finding them.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the respect party is the anti israel party
Iraq war is for oil

honestly, i hope you were being sarcastic

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Stellios....( try reading ....exactly what I said )

Who set up + controls the Respect party.....try the SWP...

Try getting the Respect party to face up to the realities of 9/11...

Do some research on John Rees..

"The Respect party is anti Israel"........could you please elaborate on what that actually means...

Does it mean.....it was a mistake to set up Israel, + the homeland for the "jews" should be elsewhere....?

I'm all ears...+ I can recognise elephants from a long distance...many years ago.....
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackbear wrote:
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Do some research on John Rees..
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Come on, blackbear, dish the dirt.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FACT: Israel was set up by the Labour Party
in the 1940s several Jewish Labour Mps blocked moves to evacuate people to places like Mauritous
FACT: Gordon Brown as of today is the figurehead for a 'charity' called the Jewish NF which basically raises money and uses it to build illegal settlements.
FACT: A previous holder of this honorary post was Tony Blair.
FACT 1960s Harol Wilson supplied plutonium to Israel to help them build a nuclear arsenal.

So when you are calling Respect a pro zionist party you are totally wrong.
Who cares if some of them were from the old SWP and who cares if some of them were anti-nazi league it is the here and now that matters.

Dont forget the SWP who were backed financially by people like the Redgraves always opposed Israel publically. Who organised boycotts of Marks & Spencers?

But anyway you were talking about Stop the War.
Dont you want to stop the war?
Ofcourse you do so who are the people closest to your desire to stopping the war?
It isnt Labour the zionist controlled party of war
nor is it Dave Cameron aka Tony Blair 2.0
nor will it be the Greens with pro war campaigner Peter Tatchell on board
The Liberals were mildly anti war but now under Tony Blairs swinger mate Chris Huent or Nick 'the europhile' Clegg they will be the New New Labour.
UKIP and Respect are the only two Anti War parties.

Stop the war is not a party it is a coalition from all the parties.

Why not do what We Are Change are doing in America?
They follow Guiliani and Hilary around and shout down their meetings. That is positive action because Guiliani is the 911 murderer
So we should be targeting Brown, Miliband, Jack Straw and other UK criminals. Ian Blair, Livingstone, etc
not Ian Rees for pity's sake

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Info on John Rees and his partner Lindsay German here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rees_(UK_politician)

He certainly sports the same syle of facial hair as Leon Trotsky Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject: Wow an answer! Reply with quote

xmasdale wrote:
Let us know if you get any reply. I fear you will not get more than a bureaucratic one.


----- Original Message -----
From: STW Office
To: John
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: Are the (UK) StWC and others against or (unwittingly) supporting fascism?

Iran is on the front page of the stop the war site - top left.


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That's it. One line and no mention about 911.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Iran is on the front page of the stop the war site

I would hope so because preventing the attack on Iran is what every sane person is aiming for

One problem with STW is it's infiltration by a large number of Labour people who after all are the problem not the solution.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is John Rees an Islamaphobe?
From today's UK Stop The War conference http://tenyearson.org.uk/
(by e-maul)
from Global Vision 2000

Moheen Yaseen wrote:
At a parallel session focussing on Islamophobia today at the STWC's conference, "Confronting the War ten years on" there was an amazing revelation and public exchange of views between Moeen Yaseen the Managing Director of the independent Islamic think tank Global Vision 2000 and John Rees leading Marxist atheist doyen of Stop the War Coalition. Moeen Yaseen stated that he had issues with the movement which still have not been addressed nor on the agenda. He stated that it was good that some speakers such as Salma Yaqoob was using the term GWOT- the Global War OF Terror which Global Vision 2000 had promoted. However, if we are going to deal with Islamophobia we need to challenge the official narrative which accuses Muslims and Islam of being mass murderers and religious sponsored terrorism which is the basis of the ongoing war. The latest research documents that thermite i.e. military grade nuclear material was used in bringing down the twin towers. We need to ask ourselves who would benefit and like to continue a global war between Islam and Christianity? He also stated that these big lies are being continuously peddled now in the Hollywood film ZERO DARK 30 which focusses on the assassination of Osama bin Laden on May 2 2011. Yet he had died over a decade ago according to the late Pakistani premier Benazir Bhutto.

John Rees intervened and said that comrades in the movement need to take into account of another perspective. He stated that AL QAEDA was created by the USA and the Pakistani ISI to fight the former Soviet Union when it invaded Afghanistan. This movement under the leadership of Osama bin Laden moved in a new direction following the first Gulf War with the USA military presence in the Arabian peninsula. He stated that this created a rift and Al Qaeda under Osama bin Laden sought revenge and blowback against the USA by attacking the twin towers.

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The SWP is recorded in

Defending the Realm: MI5 and the Shayler Affair
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Defending-Realm-MI5-Shayler-Affair/dp/02339966 72

As being one of the most officially infiltrated UK political organisations of all time

Getting special attention from the 'counter-subversion' or 'counter-democracy' section of MI5

55 agents were inside SWP and Militant working for MI5 counter-subversion according to the Hollingsworth book (p.61)



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Hello Stellios....( try reading ....exactly what I said )

Who set up + controls the Respect party.....try the SWP...

Try getting the Respect party to face up to the realities of 9/11...

Do some research on John Rees..

"The Respect party is anti Israel"........could you please elaborate on what that actually means...

Does it mean.....it was a mistake to set up Israel, + the homeland for the "jews" should be elsewhere....?

I'm all ears...+ I can recognise elephants from a long distance...many years ago.....

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The Stop The War coalition can and will never achieve their objective of stopping the war on terror if they do not recogines the possibility, let alone the probability, that NATO, Israeli and US intelligence services, as well as theit Gulf Cooperation Council (mainly Saudi) colleagues sub contract and commission domestic acts of terror & covert ops abroad.
The facts are there in the recent historical record.
Here are a few examples:

foreign:
SAS Basra episode
MI6 in Libya
SAS in Syria

domestic:
NATO's Operation Gladio
Birmingham & Guildford 'IRA' bombings?
Belgian Supermarket massacres
Italian, Belgian and Swiss parliamentary enquiries into Operation Gladio
Francovich suspicious death


John Rees in denial about about Al Qaeda being a creature of the CIA
He says Bin Laden & Al Qaeda were the only ones responsible for the 911 attacks discounting other possible scenarios

How did Bin Laden arrange to rig WTC 1,2 & 7 with thermite explosives?
How did Bin Laden arrange to hack the NORAD Air Defence System?
How did Bin Laden know to co-ordinate his attack with all the military exercises planned for 9/11?
Did Bin Laden tip off the 'dancing Israelis' to be ready with a film crew to film the attacks live and high-five as the planes hit the buildings?

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they are achieving the objective of pacifying an angry public Wink 1984 is the norm
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anon wrote:
1. I stand by the fact the STWC as a POLITICAL movement is fundamentally flawed - compromised in its ability to faithfully represent INDEPENDENTLY those Patriots who do not want Britain to resort to WAR as the first step in resolving disputes involving other SOVEREIGN jurisdictions.

2. In relation to "The War Against Terror" ["TWAT"] the same policy as adopted by the UK/US/Israel/EU is the very same policy that was adopted by HANNIBAL - the continuous use of FEAR and TERROR against his own people as the SURE means to ensure CONTINUOUS power over his own People - as leader of the Carthaginians [comprising the Empire that incorporated present day Egypt and the whole of north Africa].

3. If the False Flimsy Foundation on which the foolish policy is based is NOT challenged as an EFFECTIVE FIRST STEP, the FALSE BASIS to UNLAWFULLY attack and destroy innocent peaceful men, women, and children of other SOVEREIGN jurisdictions will continue indefinitely.

4. Hence, the whole STWC is built on a complete TISSUE OF LIES.
If the FOUNDATION of the DEMOCRATIC MOVEMENT is FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED - what hope is there for the indigenous people to understand the NARRATIVE and by extension the FALSE LOGIC promoting FALSE ARGUMENTS built on FALSE FOUNDATIONS!

5. Moeen clearly understands that if WTC7 [on 911-2001 (the date of the attack was predetermined - carefully co-ordinated, the outrage links to the fact the numbers deployed are not random, but have a clear nexus to the Occult)] came down by means of CONTROLLED DEMOLITION - then the WTC1 and WTC2 were also brought down by means of CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.
END of ARGUMENT.

6. Obsama is a complete "red herring" to BLAME a SCAPEGOAT and hence blame ALL MUSLIMS in order to prosecute a WAR against ONE PEOPLE! [Giving Licence to TERRORIZE & create egregious FEAR among ALL people.

7. WHO BENEFITS? The POTUS & the Executive - DEVIOUSLY CLEVER [i.e. To pass any measure they determine as necessary to continue prosecuting a war with no REAL enemy no DEFINABLE Target/s - based on the GREATEST DISHONESTY and DECEIT OF ALL].

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I always suspected Owen Jones was a shill - now he's proved it

Suppressing the Truth on Syria: Mother Agnes Mariam and Britain’s Self Proclaimed “Antiwar Movement”
By William Boardman - Global Research, November 27, 2013
http://www.globalresearch.ca/suppressing-the-truth-on-syria-mother-agn es-mariam-and-britains-self-proclaimed-antiwar-movement/5359556

Here’s what it looks like when a respected reporter tweets about his blackmail note to an established anti-war organization regarding the organization’s upcoming conference in a tweet on November 15:

The reporter is Jeremy Scahill, who was booked as the keynote speaker and to show his film “Dirty Wars” (based on his book “Dirty Wars”) at the November 30 International Anti-War Conference in London, put on by Stop the War Coalition (STWuk), which was first organized in 2001 in opposition to an American attack on Iraq. More than 12 years later, the coalition notes dryly on its webpage for the conference, “We need more effective anti war resistance internationally. This conference is a chance to analyse, build links and lay plans.”

Scahill’s threat to boycott the conference soon became moot the following day, when the dreaded Mother Agnes withdrew from participation. Her letter read, in part:

“It has come to my attention that my participation in your conference has become a matter of serious contention, even prompting some other speakers to consider withdrawing. This is apparently due to a campaign of cruel and unsubstantiated accusations which seek to work against my efforts and those of the Musalaha (Reconciliation) Initiative in Syria.

“The basis of our work toward peace is reconciliation and forgiveness. This means extending an olive branch to some who may initially refuse it, and accepting an olive branch from others who are despised, even by our friends….

“Some may feel that an injustice will be done if I speak at your conference. Others may think that injustice will be done if I do not. Because my participation in your conference may be used by some to distract from your valuable efforts towards peace, non-violence and reconciliation, I believe it best to withdraw from participation.”

Why did Stop the War invitation to nun working to stop war raise objections?

Push comes to shove, and Mother Agnes is an apparent pushover. She’s also not flogging a movie. And the abuse she’s suffered online was as real as the pressure on Scahilll and others to have nothing to do with her. It’s hard to find any evidence that Mother Agnes has committed anything worse than what others consider thought-crimes and politically incorrect observations, some of which are actually correct.

Mother Agnes Mariam of the Cross is a Carmelite nun and mother superior of the Monastery of James the Mutilated in Qara, Syria, which has a community of three monks and twelve nuns. Born in Lebanon in a refugee camp 61 years ago, she is Palestinian on her father’s side and has worked in Syria for about 20 years. She is the spokesperson for the Catholic Information Center in Beirut, where the Musalaha Initiative also has its office. Mother Agnes became a nun at 19, after several years in the late 1960s as a self-styled “hippie,” traveling to Europe, India and Tibet. Unlike others with an equally public profile, Mother Agnes has no Wikipedia page.

In June 2012, Nobel Peace Prize winner Mairead Maguire praised Mother Agnes as a peacemaker:

“In her community her voice has been clear, pure and loud. And it should be so in the West. Like many people in Syria she has been placed in life threatening situations, but for the sake of peace she has chosen to risk her own existence for the safety and security of others. She has spoken out against the lack of truth in our media regarding Syria and about the terror and chaos which a ‘third force’ seems to be spreading across the country. Her words confront and challenge us because they do not mirror the picture of events in Syria we have built up in our minds over many months of reading our newspapers and watching the news on our televisions. Much of the terror has been imported, we learn from her. She can tell us about the thousands of Christian refugees, forced to flee their homes by an imported Islamist extreme.”

What makes her controversial to people around Stop the War Coalition is their perception of her as a supporter of the Syrian government of Bashar al-Assad. Clear reasoning behind this perception is hard to come by. The reality for Christians in Syria is that their choice of friends is limited: the government represses them along with everyone else, but some rebel groups have taken to massacring Christians. With rebel groups numbering 1,000 or more, none is likely to be a reliable protector.

Mother Agnes’s heretical view of the Damascus chemical attack

In August 2013, when the world learned of the still murky chemical weapons attack in a Damascus suburb, Mother Agnes questioned the prevailing western view that the Assad government carried out the attack. She prepared a 50-page report questioning the authenticity of videos of the aftermath and submitted her findings to the United Nations Human Rights Council. As the New York Times of September 21 reported:

“When Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey V. Lavrov, wanted to bolster his argument that rebels had carried out the poison gas attacks near Damascus on Aug. 21, he pointed to the work of a 61-year-old Lebanese-born nun who had concluded that the horrifying videos showing hundreds of dead and choking victims, including many children, had been fabricated ahead of time to provide a pretext for foreign intervention.

“’Mr. Lavrov is an intelligent person,’ said the nun, Mother Agnes Mariam of the Cross, with a wide smile in a recent interview in this Lebanese mountain town. ‘He will never stick his name to someone who is saying stupidities.’”

Taking a position on the chemical attacks that is supportive of the Assad government has led to intensified criticism of Mother Agnes as an Assad pawn. French reporters have written a book accusing her of conspiring with the government to kill another French reporter in 2012. She has sued the authors for libel.

The Syrian uprising started with peaceful protests in March 2011, but soon turned violent. Mother Agnes accuses the West of fomenting the violence to create a pretext for military intervention and re-ordering Syria. In November 2011, she wrote an open letter to President Assad, challenging the government over its treatment of hospital patients and prisoners, as reported in Vatican Insider in November 2011:

“Dear Mr. President, I have lived and worked in Syria since 1994, and I have learned to esteem the unique position Syria holds in the world of culture and of religions. But I am shocked to learn from Amnesty International that in the hospitals run by the government the wounded suffer discrimination and maltreatment because of their ideology. And I am saddened to find that, in the prisons, there are people there who have never been tried in court, or even accused of anything…. I ask for a serious inquiry into the hospitals and prisons, under the supervision of the International Red Cross, together with the creation of a committee to accelerate the exercise of justice.”

In late October, Mother Agnes, through the Musalaha Initiative, was involved in establishing a cease-fire and evacuating some 5,400 civilians from Moadamiya, a rebel-held city near Damascus.

Mother Agnes is currently on a six-week speaking tour in North America, largely ignored by most media. In Cleveland on November 14, she received a special peace award from the mayor, a congressman, and a senator. The tour ends December 4.

Jeremy Scahill has yet to explain his own behaviour, but columnist Neil Clark, writing for Russia Today, blames “liberal hawks and neo-cons” for silencing the nun because:

“Mother Agnes’ testimony reveals that the so-called ‘War on Terror’ is a sham – that in Syria, the western countries and their regional allies, Saudi Arabia and Israel, are on the same side as the extremist Islamic terror groups that we are told are our greatest enemies.”



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Catholic Worker invites Mother Agnes of Syria to Speak after she is "No Platformed" by StWC
Ciaron | 20.11.2013 10:19 | Anti-militarism | Repression | Terror War | London

The Catholic Worker, a small anarchist pacifist community in Harringay London has extended an invitation to Mother Agnes to address its members on a two day retreat next week. Mother Agnes was recently pressured to withdraw from addressing the Stop the War Coalition meeting in London on Nov 30th.

The Harringay group is part of the larger Catholic Worker movement founded by Dorothy Day in New York City in 1933 during the Great Depression. There are over 200 autonomous communities mostly in the United States, but also in Oxford, Rickmansworth & London. Dorothy Day, an anarchist suffragette who converted to Catholicism, has recently been put forward for canonisation by the American bishops.

The Harringay group offers hospitality to destitute refugees fleeing wars and persecution in Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Africa and elsewhere. The group is also active in nonviolent resistance to war preparations, many of its members have served time in prison for such nonviolent direct actions. The group has also played a significant role in solidarity for imprisoned whisltleblower Chelsea (formerly) Bradley Manning and WikiLeaks' Julian Assange.

A longstanding member of the London group Ciaron O'Reilly was recently arrested trying to blockade the limousine of U.S. Vice President John Kerry. O'Reilly stated:

"The Catholic Worker has always had a strong position on free expression, often not shared by the authoritarian and moderate left.

"Free expression is very dear to us and it doesn't look good when privileged activists from imperial nations like Britain and the U.S. bully a Palestinian nun offstage. 'No platforming' is a form of authoritarian censorship and in this instance we find ourselves echoing Winston Churchill that 'Jaw jaw is better than war, war!'

"I myself, for example, have been physically attacked twice in the past month for expressing an opinion on the ongoing persecution of Julian Assange, Edward Snowden & Chelsea Manning.

"How can 'Stop the War' on the one hand host speakers from the pro-war Labour Party while on the other failing to defend Mother Agnes' right to share her views about what our governments are doing to the Syrian people by fuelling a proxy war. The war in Syria that seems to be escalating and expanding by the day across the Middle East. We note the bombing of the Iranian embassy in Beirut in recent days and fear that this proxy war in Syria is a prelude to an eventual full scale attack on Iran.

"We want to learn more about the situation in Syria from the varied voices of those who live there. We have been disappointed for a long time in Stop the War's lack of solidarity and abandonment of Manning, Assange & nonviolent resisters generally - both military and civilian. 'Stop the War' seems to have mutated into a financial life support system for a small Trotskyist group servicing the Labour Party. It is frightening that the anti-war movement in Britain is so corrupt and deflated on the eve of an expanded war over the Middle East.

"I have never been too timid to 'share a platform' with anyone, so I can't understand why these people are scared of sharing a platform with Mother Agnes.

"I have shared platforms with Ulster Unionist Jeffrey Donaldson, Monseigneur Alker a senior chaplain of the British army, former members of the I.R.A. former members of the British S.A.S. and even members of Stop the War - this of course does not mean I agree with their perspectives or their beliefs. We have had initial feedback that Mother Agnes will try to fit us into her busy schedule and visit us while we are on our Catholic Worker retreat this Monday.

Ciaron
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NATO's puppet journalists Owen Jones and Jeremy Scahill lobbing bombs into the middle of today's Stop The War conference

On Owen Jones and the Stop The War Coalition.
Posted on November 16, 2013 by afghanistanwatch
http://interventionswatch.wordpress.com/2013/11/16/on-owen-jones-and-t he-stop-the-war-coalition/

On Saturday the 30th November, the Stop The War Coalition will host a conference to discuss the most effective ways to resist the drive to war against Syria – stalled for now, but not necessarily indefinitely. Due to speak (at the time of writing) are Diane Abbott MP, Seamus Milne, Tariq Ali and Lindsey German, among many others.

To cut a long story short, the Stop the War website is also advertising that Mother Agnes Mariam is due to speak at the conference. Agnes is a christian Nun who is suspected by some observers of the war in Syria of being little more than a mouthpiece for the Assad regime. Let’s just accept for arguments sake that this is true, and that inviting her was a bad idea (I will confess here to not being totally au fait with her views).

The presence of Mother Agnes has lead to Jeremy Scahill, the excellent American investigative journalist, and Owen Jones, a columnist with The Independent newspaper, pulling out of the conference, on the grounds that they don’t want to share a platform with an apologist for war criminals.

But I just want to share a few thoughts on why I think Jones’ position is confused at best.

Jones is a member and supporter of the Labour party, and thinks other lefties should be as well. As is hardly a secret, Labour is a party that plays host to plenty of major war criminals and apologists for those war criminals, but that apparently isn’t enough for him to want to part ways with them.

Indeed, he has in the past quite happily appeared on platforms with John Prescott, who was deputy Prime Minister at the time of the aggression against Iraq – not just an apologist for war crimes then, but an active participant in them.

Jones’ argument for staying a member of Labour is that while he doesn’t agree with these people on various issues, he thinks it’s worth trying to win the argument against them to change the party for the better, from within. It’s not a totally unreasonable position, and I think he’s certainly sincere in arguing it.

Why couldn’t he apply that same logic to the Stop The War Conference though? Say that while he obviously doesn’t agree with the opinions of all the speakers there, he thinks it’s still worth going and making his argument as to what the best anti-war position is or should be? He could even outline why he doesn’t agree with people like Mother Agnes in his talk, and maybe change a few minds.

But no, unlike his continuing embrace of the blood soaked Labour party, he’s just going to shun the conference altogether, thus giving plenty of ammunition to those who are trying to smear Stop The War, and anti-war people in general, as pro-Assad. ‘Even Owen Jones wants nothing to do with them, see!’.

My hunch is that he’s scared of being tarred with a pro-Assad brush, because that would be damaging to his reputation (certainly in the eyes of a state-corporate media Establishment that has embraced him) in a way that being seen as broadly pro-Labour – despite their horrific track record and the massive trail of corpses they left behind them last time they were in power – isn’t, given that Labour are part of that Establishment themselves.

Nuns who’ve made some dodgy comments in defense of the Assad regime? He’ll have no part of it.

A political party who instigated some of the worst and most murderous war crimes of the modern era, and whose leader continues to act as an apologist for the perpetrators, as well as the brutal wars in Afghanistan and Libya? Count him in.

For me, it shows how even some lefties have a moral vision that is badly skewed by power, and the need for Establishment approval, when it comes to assessing and reacting to Their crimes (or even alleged supporters of Their crimes), and Ours.

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About to record an interview with Uk Stop The War STWC convener John Rees tonight about his new book 'The Leveller Revolution' when something strange happened on Facebook messenger.
The national convenor of Stop The War told me I shouldn't send tweets critical of the CIA or George Soros, and because I had done he was cancelling the interview.
We discussed his book for the radio show without him anyway, but also John Rees' strange behaviour given that both the CIA and George Soros are heavily involved in causing war.
Both John Rees and the UK Stop The War coalition are very close to the Socialist Workers' Party (SWP) which, as discussed elsewhere on this thread, was, and maybe still is, heavily infiltrated by MI5.

https://www.twitter.com/TonyGosling/status/823504862025568256
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This is how it went.....
JR = John Rees
TG = Tony Gosling


Wednesday 20:52
We're sitting here waiting. Can you do the interview or not John?

JR
Did you not get the email?

TG
No
What's up?

JR
It looks as is you are posting stuff critical of the women's march. Unless you've been hacked?

TG
Yes, retweeted wikileaks post about the Co chair having worked for the CIA. Is that a problem?

JR
And this by a Trump supporter http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-geor ge-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-wash ington/
Billionaire George Soros has ties to more than 50 ‘partners’ of the Women’s March on Washington
What is the link between one of Hillary Clinton’s largest donors and the Women’s March? Turns out, it’s quite significant
nytlive.nytimes.com

TG
Yes I criticise all sides if it seems appropriate

JR
I don't support Trump, or apologists for his racism, sexism, billionaire politics or warmongering. I supported and went on the women's march. So yes, it's a problem.

TG
Yes I agree, he looks like starting a war with China or Iran he's a nutcase
Very dangerous...
We both know these politicians are fronts

JR
Then why posts pro Trump material attacking the women's march

TG
As I said I criticise Soros too, all sides. And any CIA Co chair.

JR
Anyway, my fault, should have checked your posts earlier. I thought it was a left wing station. But if you'd checked your email we could have sorted it out before now.

TG
We are broadly left wing yes, no Fox news we.
So are you saying you no longer want to do the interview because of those Tweets?

JR
Yes. I think Trump supporters are disgusting scum.

TG
So do I.

JR
No, you retweet them.

TG
Both CIA & Soros funding are valid points. Please John, there are three of us waiting in the studio here can you decide whether you want to be interviewed or not please.

JR
No, I'll leave it thanks...

TG
Voltaire: "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise"
Okay, that's a shame but thanks for the books. Frustrating though having prepared questions and all. We'll have to just interview each other or just play some music 😢

JR
Trump supporters are backing our rulers. End of.

TG
Don't criticise CIA & Soros - I'll remember that 😎

JR
The article attacks the women's march and attempts to give itself fake left gloss. The author voted for Trump and went to the inauguration. No amount of fake left rhetoric disguises that. Now let's leave it.

TG
Ridiculous to say by retweeting posts criticising Soros & CIA is supporting Trump but it's up to you John. As I said, ta for the book.

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The SWP is recorded in

Defending the Realm: MI5 and the Shayler Affair
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Defending-Realm-MI5-Shayler-Affair/dp/02339966 72

As being one of the most officially infiltrated UK political organisations of all time

Getting special attention from the 'counter-subversion' or 'counter-democracy' section of MI5

55 agents were inside SWP and Militant working for MI5 counter-subversion according to the Hollingsworth book (p.61)


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NATO's puppet journalists Owen Jones and Jeremy Scahill lobbing bombs into the middle of today's Stop The War conference

On Owen Jones and the Stop The War Coalition.
Posted on November 16, 2013 by afghanistanwatch
http://interventionswatch.wordpress.com/2013/11/16/on-owen-jones-and-t he-stop-the-war-coalition/

On Saturday the 30th November, the Stop The War Coalition will host a conference to discuss the most effective ways to resist the drive to war against Syria – stalled for now, but not necessarily indefinitely. Due to speak (at the time of writing) are Diane Abbott MP, Seamus Milne, Tariq Ali and Lindsey German, among many others.

To cut a long story short, the Stop the War website is also advertising that Mother Agnes Mariam is due to speak at the conference. Agnes is a christian Nun who is suspected by some observers of the war in Syria of being little more than a mouthpiece for the Assad regime. Let’s just accept for arguments sake that this is true, and that inviting her was a bad idea (I will confess here to not being totally au fait with her views).

The presence of Mother Agnes has lead to Jeremy Scahill, the excellent American investigative journalist, and Owen Jones, a columnist with The Independent newspaper, pulling out of the conference, on the grounds that they don’t want to share a platform with an apologist for war criminals.

But I just want to share a few thoughts on why I think Jones’ position is confused at best.

Jones is a member and supporter of the Labour party, and thinks other lefties should be as well. As is hardly a secret, Labour is a party that plays host to plenty of major war criminals and apologists for those war criminals, but that apparently isn’t enough for him to want to part ways with them.

Indeed, he has in the past quite happily appeared on platforms with John Prescott, who was deputy Prime Minister at the time of the aggression against Iraq – not just an apologist for war crimes then, but an active participant in them.

Jones’ argument for staying a member of Labour is that while he doesn’t agree with these people on various issues, he thinks it’s worth trying to win the argument against them to change the party for the better, from within. It’s not a totally unreasonable position, and I think he’s certainly sincere in arguing it.

Why couldn’t he apply that same logic to the Stop The War Conference though? Say that while he obviously doesn’t agree with the opinions of all the speakers there, he thinks it’s still worth going and making his argument as to what the best anti-war position is or should be? He could even outline why he doesn’t agree with people like Mother Agnes in his talk, and maybe change a few minds.

But no, unlike his continuing embrace of the blood soaked Labour party, he’s just going to shun the conference altogether, thus giving plenty of ammunition to those who are trying to smear Stop The War, and anti-war people in general, as pro-Assad. ‘Even Owen Jones wants nothing to do with them, see!’.

My hunch is that he’s scared of being tarred with a pro-Assad brush, because that would be damaging to his reputation (certainly in the eyes of a state-corporate media Establishment that has embraced him) in a way that being seen as broadly pro-Labour – despite their horrific track record and the massive trail of corpses they left behind them last time they were in power – isn’t, given that Labour are part of that Establishment themselves.

Nuns who’ve made some dodgy comments in defense of the Assad regime? He’ll have no part of it.

A political party who instigated some of the worst and most murderous war crimes of the modern era, and whose leader continues to act as an apologist for the perpetrators, as well as the brutal wars in Afghanistan and Libya? Count him in.

For me, it shows how even some lefties have a moral vision that is badly skewed by power, and the need for Establishment approval, when it comes to assessing and reacting to Their crimes (or even alleged supporters of Their crimes), and Ours.

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Well done, Tony. I tried to engage Lindsey German once, and she scuttled away from me as fast as her little legs could carry her.
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