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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The bane of our civil institutions is to be found in Masonry, already powerful and daily becoming more so. I owe to my country an exposure of its dangers." - Captain William Morgan, murdered Sept 11, 1826

Chile, 9/11; Peter Tosh, murdered 9/11; (anyone get any more 'Estabishment'/'Masonic' deaths/coups/'False Flags' for 9/11?)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Know Your Enemy (Jesuits and the Vatican)


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"The Jesuits are a MILITARY organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is power, power in its most despotic exercise, absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man [i.e., the Black Pope, the Superior General of the Jesuits]. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms [sic] and at the same time the greatest and most enormous of abuses."
Napoleon I (i.e., Napoleon Bonaparte; 1769-1821; emperor of the French)

The world is controlled by the Jesuits, Black Nobility, and the Vatican. The Jesuits are a military organization not a religious order. The vatican and the Jesuits are not Christianity. The New World Order is controlled by elite jesuits and the black pope Adolfo Nicolas. The world bankers are NOT top of the food chain. They all follow the jesuit order and follow the supreme jesuit general aka black pope Adolfo Nicolas. The other jesuit elites are Adolfo's 6 generals which is known as his assistance. Adolfo directs and guide the white pope and tells him what to do and say. The white pope is not a christian. When Jesuits and the Vatican say they believe in God they are referring to Lucifer as the God. Christians have been fooled for centuries that the Vatican is pure and good when the Vatican and the Jesuits have destroyed sovereign nations across the globe. The illuminati was created by the Jesuits in the 1700's because at that time Jesuitism was banned in 80 countries. People at that time knew the Vatican was corrupt and desired world dominance. A lot of ppl are now learnin about the new world order but they are being taught the fake jew banker world order. Yes i know world bankers have great power but they all follow the vatican. Think about it, every world leader goes to and respects the Vatican no matter what religion they believe in. The black pope Adolfo and his 6 generals control the Roman Catholic Church, the Vatican Bank(richest bank in the world), space laws, maritime laws, other jesuits, jesuit teachings in the Vatican, Knights of Malta, illuminati, black nobility, CIA, FBI, other secret services, Council of Foreign Relations, Bilderberg, IMF, multiple world banks, FED, and the trilateral commission. The illuminati, Bilderberg, CFR, IMF, etc is told what to do and is given ideas form the Jesuit Elite, The Jesuits also sank the titanic to kill the elite who opposed the idea of the FED in order to create the FED. The Jesuits were the ones that came up wit the idea of the UN. Alex Jones is a fraud and a half truther. He was hired by the Vatican to do alternative media because the Jesuits knew ppl were eventually gonna find out about the nwo so if you cant stop the truth from coming out then the next best thing is to control the way the truth is heard by putting NWO doublle agents in alternative media. Alternative Media has been hijacked and is now corrupt. You can still go to infowars but remember you are being told only certain things about the NWO. This is why Alex never talks about knights of malta, pope, roman catholic church, vatican, and the jesuits. His own sister goes to a jesuit school! So the REAL NWO is a jesuit world order not a jew world order!
http://www.spirituallysmart.com/index5.html
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This for me is far more fitting of history than what they try and blame Jews for imo.
Just the numbers alone and the far reaching control of The Vatican through all the ages. Global human population percentages etc.

The Truth About the Jesuits Part 1 of 2


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hmm part two offers little proof of anything mind you.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Jesuits were formed in 1492 by and when a certain group of people were expelled from Spain (William Shakespeare wrote some plays about it, but it's a little coded) and also covers periods even earlier around 1066 and in part, crusades, parliament and the misuse of religions.

Oh, and the second video with Bush, he's an Ashkenazi, like many of the popes have been.


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Interesting Andrew, from where did they splinter or break away? Or form as it were.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interesting Andrew, from where did they splinter or break away? Or form as it were.



They haven’t, the House of Rothschild’s does the banking for the Jesuits and the Jesuits control the papacy. Likewise the so called Crown, Church of England, and you name it. Oh and the so called Royal family married into the Rothschild’s etc (Shakespeare again) and the Royal family are Jews Judah. Hence the Scottish ties with the Royal family.
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Hmm with a name like The Black Pope you'd expect a bit of Zionistic, Solomon's Temple worshipping Devilry Surprised

*Edit* I suppose there is nothing like trying to bring a book to life Rolling Eyes
Can we call that Art Surprised

Can we have an Addendum if they haven't started writing one?

After a bit of Revelations they all lived happily ever after?

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Hmm with a name like The Black Pope you'd expect a bit of Zionistic, Solomon's Temple worshipping Devilry Surprised

*Edit* I suppose there is nothing like trying to bring a book to life Rolling Eyes
Can we call that Art Surprised


I did get to meet one guy and spoke with him before we nearly (each other) who was an ex captain in the para's but was going to join the Jesuit order and had gone to so called law school and sandhurst. He was religious and said things about, well all backwards really, war, you name it. 14 O' levels, how man A's, so much for so called education.

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Some of the Jesuits may well turn and realise, as some have faith. And do have more say, than people realise.
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True they'll never convince everyone with wickedness Wink
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There's Jesuits and Jesuits; like there's Catholics and Catholics, Jews and Jews, Janes and Janes.

A salutary lesson in blacking a race, religion or party would be had by reading 'Cry of the People' by Penny Lernoux; plenty of good Jesuits there (Penny Lernoux died of cancer, and was thought by some of her friends to have been 'done in'; I certainly highly suspect that to be true, as I suspect Aaron Russo's 'contracting' cancer in 2001, the year he started speaking out on 9/11 and what Nick Rockefeller had told him (see 'Aaron Russo Historic Interview', just pop that in your search box)).

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There's Jesuits and Jesuits; like there's Catholics and Catholics, Jews and Jews, Janes and Janes.

A salutary lesson in blacking a race, religion or party would be had by reading 'Cry of the People' by Penny Lernoux; plenty of good Jesuits there (Penny Lernoux died of cancer, and was thought by some of her friends to have been 'done in'; I certainly highly suspect that to be true, as I suspect Aaron Russo's 'contracting' cancer in 2001, the year he started speaking out on 9/11 and what Nick Rockefeller had told him (see 'Aaron Russo Historic Interview', just pop that in your search box)).




"Here is a very powerful story which is supposed to be true.
It is similar to the "The Pilgrim's Progress"."

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He Leadeth Me

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I say "I'm not sure myself anymore." I was born in China of Ukraine parents, so we spoke Ukrainian at home, and the Turkish language in the street while playing with Turkish children as young boys. We spoke Russian, Ukrainian and Chinese in school. I've been wrestling with English for the last 20-30 years, so I'm not sure anymore what nationality I am.

If you want me to be honest, if you want to hear the honest answer; "I am a Jew." And they say, "How come?"

"Because I am a son of Abraham by faith and my country is in heaven. I am not fighting for any nationality. I'm not racist, defending this or that race. No race. In . . . [Yahushua] there is no race. To newborn men and women of . . . [Yahuwah] in . . . [Yahushua], saved and washed by His blood, race doesn't matter.
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This thread has taken an interesting turn.
The Jewish faith is particularly interesting. As with the other monotheistic faiths (Islam less so maybe) Judaism has been thoroughly infiltrated at the top of the formal worldly hierarchy.
Consequently hundreds of thousands of people have been accepted into the faith who find it 'convenient' to call themselves Jews whether they are or not.
Hitler decimated the European Rabbinic tradition by scapegoating and victimising real Jews. The evil genius ruse was to then colonise the faith with occultists, Kabbalists, serial criminals who saw Judaism as their passport back to credibility.
Set this against the pope's visit.. you have a freak of a pope, but many principled & honourable Catholics who are hated by the British occult establishment.
At least that's how I see it.

We are now living under an upside down church, media and government, in Britain where employees of any of these key institutions are ruthlessly ejected if they exhibit any humanity whatever.
We need a word for this phenomenon.......

Okay... I'm rambling.

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We are now living under an upside down church, media and government, in Britain where employees of any of these key institutions are ruthlessly ejected if they exhibit any humanity whatever.
We need a word for this phenomenon.......

Any thoughts on encapsulating this concept?
I'd also add the armed forces to the list of 'occupied' institutions.
Dennis Potter wrote about it before he died.
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Because they only exhibit

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And can't control their bodies because they think they are just humanity.

It has a number?
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What are you on about Andrew?
Anything?

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What are you on about Andrew?
Anything?


Your a Christian Tony? are you just human?
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Err....how about the Ahrimanic Deception?

If we inquire: Who stirs up nations against each other? Who raises the questions that are directing Ahriman today? - the answer is: the ahrimanic deception which plays into human life. And in this field men very easily let themselves be deceived. They are not willing to descend to the lower strata where reality is to be found. For, you see, Ahriman skillfully prepares his goal beforehand; ever since the Reformation and the Renaissance, the economist has been emerging in modern civilization as the representative governing type. That is an actual historical fact. If you go back to ancient times, even to those that I have characterized today as the Luciferic - who were the governing types then? Initiates. The Egyptian Pharaos, the Babylonian rulers, the Asiatic rulers - they were initiates. Then the priest-type emerged as ruler and the priest-type was really the ruler right up to the Reformation and the Renaissance. Since that time the economist has been in command. Rulers are in fact merely the handimen, the understrappers of the economists. One must not imagine that the rulers of modern times are anything but the understrappers of the economists. And all that has resulted by way of law and justice - one should only study it carefully - is simply a consequence of what economically oriented men have thought. In the nineteenth century the "economical" man is replaced for the first time by the man thinking in terms of banking, and in the nineteenth century there is created for the first time the organization of finance which swamps every other relationship. One must only be able to look into these things and follow them up empirically and practically.

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"Shortly after the year 2000 a kind of indirect prohibition on thinking will
emanate from America, a law which will aim to suppress all individual thought".

Rudolf Steiner: from the lecture:

Gegenwärtiges und Vargangenes im Menschengeiste, GA 167,
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We are living at the end of the 2nd post-Christian Millennium and it will not be long until we reach the year 2,000 and then mankind will have to experience something of a spacial nature. Things which are preparing themselves very gradually right now are so prepared that there are two polarities which we are going to meet as time goes on. Two polarities are being prepared, one pole from the East and another from the West.

English tranaslation of Gegenwärtiges und Vargangenes im Menschengeiste, GA 167 lectures.

http://wn.rsarchive.org/GA/GA0167/19160404p01.html

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Halloween - clocks go back - Cross quarter day approaching.

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5–10 November: Samhain - Between Midautumn and Midwinter
Traditional winter begins
Middle of astronomical autumn

Neo-Christian version
All Saints (1 November) and All Souls' Day (2 November)

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Grand Orient de France
The Grand Orient de France (GODF) is the largest of several Masonic organizations in France and the oldest in Continental Europe, founded in 1733.

Schism with the United Grand Lodge of England
In 1877, at the instigation of the Protestant priest Frédéric Desmons, it allowed those who had no belief in a Supreme being - which the United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE) and related Lodges regarded as a Masonic Landmark - to be admitted.[16]
It was this decision that has been the root cause of the schism between the Grand Orient (and those lodges that followed it), and the rest of Freemasonry. It is a schism in Freemasonry which continues to this day. It is argued that the definition is ambiguous, that Anderson's Landmarks are his own collection and interpretation of the historical landmarks, and that changes in both interpretation and practice have occurred before and since.
The decision was not universally approved in France. By 1894 many lodges had split off in protest and formed the Grande Loge de France (GLdF) In addition, a third Grand Lodge, the Grande Loge Nationale Francaise (GLNF) was founded by the United Grand Lodge of England in 1913 (GLNF is the only one of the three that is recognized as being "regular" by those Freemasons that follow the Anglo tradition of requiring a belief in Deity.).
The Grand Orient was implicated in the Affaire Des Fiches, where it was accused of collecting and holding information on the religious and political affiliation of army officers, passed on by a member of the government, having been collected with the intention of blocking practicing Catholics and non-Republicans from further advancement.
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"Two Invisible influences striving for the soul of man."
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Daily Mail covering the Bohos
A notorious group of hackers has called for the infiltration of a top secret elite society as it stages its annual gathering in California.
The Bohemian Grove began its two-week gathering in Monte Rio, California, yesterday, with protesters lining the street outside the exclusive 2,700-acre estate.
Bohemian Grove is part of the San Francisco-based male-only Bohemian Club which includes heads of state, leading business magnates and bank executives among its members.
Attack: Hackers group Anonymous has called on people to infiltrate the top secret Bohemian Grove club - where the most powerful men in the world are said to meet annually
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Daily Mail covering the Bohos
A notorious group of hackers has called for the infiltration of a top secret elite society as it stages its annual gathering in California.
The Bohemian Grove began its two-week gathering in Monte Rio, California, yesterday, with protesters lining the street outside the exclusive 2,700-acre estate.
Bohemian Grove is part of the San Francisco-based male-only Bohemian Club which includes heads of state, leading business magnates and bank executives among its members.
Attack: Hackers group Anonymous has called on people to infiltrate the top secret Bohemian Grove club - where the most powerful men in the world are said to meet annually
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2014797/Bohemian-Grove-Hackivi sts-target.html

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

‎40 minutes of freemasonic fun and frolics as I go head to head with one of South Wales' senior 'crafty ones'.


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And how they lie - boy do they lie

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a great film for Halloween

"The monarch is actually the most powerful man on the planet and the Order of the Garter is the control mechanism for the New World Order." Tim Cohen


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forces Occultes -
Occult Forces - a french film with English subtitles that looks candidly at from French Revolution up to the mid 20th Century

This Film was based on Authentic Masonic Documents, in particular, the initiation ceremony was the one used in 1939 by French Lodges.
Forces Occultes places spectators in the role of a naïve initiate—the young legislator Pierre Avenel—who at first believes in parliamentary democracy and the Masons, but gradually discovers the "truth" and is brutally attacked when he threatens to expose it.

part 1

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part 2
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part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxbm0eNB0_A

part 4
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's a weird one

The biggest nuke in human history was exploded just the day before Halloween in 1961


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

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Ear-popping stuff! My interview about Edwardian Bristol Demonologist Montague Summers with Right Reverend Bishop Sean Manchester
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'Hitler -memoirs of a confidant' by Otto Wagener

First published in 1978. Wegener served as Chief of Staff of the SA; headed the Economic Policy Section of the Nazi Party's National Executive; worked on special assignment for Hitler in Berlin; headed the Party's Economic Policy Office during the early days of the Third Reich; briefly served as Commissar for the Economy; and ended up a Major-General in the army, where he was captured by the British. During his
internment in Wales he wrote these glowing memoirs of his time with Hitler and he remained a Nazi sympathiser.

In chapter 25, Hitler's Thought Processes, Wagener reports on a talk he had at the Elephant Hotel in Weimar during one of their political trips, where Hitler said:

'I'm now and then aware, that it is not I who is speaking, but that something speaks through me. On such occasions, I frequently feel as if there were a mistake in human logic or if it has it's limits of which it is not aware. Now and then ideas, concepts, views occur to me that I have read nowhere, heard nowhere, and never before thought, nor can I justify them by logic, and they do not even seem to me to me capable of being logically justified."

"I owe to Einstein the scientific proof that there are things which, recognised by man's senses, nevertheless cannot be understood and justified, though they are true and could form the basis for a new way of thinking, perhaps even of a new conception of the world. In future, I will know how to console myself when some perception comes to my mind to which I am lacking a logical bridge. I shall nevertheless have the courage to build on it"

Wegener asked him: 'Do you always know whether such a perception comes from beyond or through the agency of the human senses within this world'

Hitler replied: "In general, at such moments I have a sensation like an inner vibration, as if I were being touched by an invisible charge. Whenever I have seized the impulse, what I said or did as a result of that feeling always turned out to be correct. Whenever I have let it go, almost invariably it turned out later that it would have been right to follow the inner voice"

The book of Revelation and the work of the Priest - Rudolf Steiner.
eighteen lectures, conversations and question-and-answer sessions in Dornach from 5 to 22 September 1924.

From Lecture Sixteen:

"Before the Etheric Christ can be comprehended by human beings in the right way, humanity must first cope with encountering the Beast who will rise up in 1933."

http://uncletaz.com/priest/lecture16.html

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