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  Topic: Continuos Pieces- 9/11 documentary
jfk

Replies: 6
Views: 3069

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:29 pm   Subject: Continuos Pieces- 9/11 documentary
would like to see chek & gruts take on all these engineers & experts.
Not to mention agent apple
  Topic: WTC7 Study
jfk

Replies: 10
Views: 3052

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:41 pm   Subject: WTC7 Study
Simon "falsename" Shack,

so what 'chek'?
  Topic: WTC7 Study
jfk

Replies: 10
Views: 3052

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:02 pm   Subject: WTC7 Study
It's difficult to believe that his flock still can't get their heads around the fact that events will always look different from different perspectives - which is what he's playing on yet again.

i ...
  Topic: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
jfk

Replies: 53
Views: 29879

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:10 am   Subject: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
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  Topic: WTC7 Study
jfk

Replies: 10
Views: 3052

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:18 am   Subject: WTC7 Study
Looks like John White is targeting the next credible body of 9/11 Truth then
  Topic: WTC7 Study
jfk

Replies: 10
Views: 3052

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:43 am   Subject: WTC7 Study
the various footage showing the WTC7 collapse betrays irreconcilable discrepancies. While some early TV shots may have been simply retouched (to blur & conceal the explosiveness of the WTC7's demi ...
  Topic: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
jfk

Replies: 53
Views: 29879

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:56 pm   Subject: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
911 Aircraft175 is still flying AFTER it has 'crashed' into the WTC!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ldv12mzU_ug
  Topic: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
jfk

Replies: 53
Views: 29879

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:37 pm   Subject: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
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  Topic: wake turbulence - real world plane physics
jfk

Replies: 3
Views: 1839

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:08 pm   Subject: wake turbulence - real world plane physics
chek, if it needs to be explained to you,
the wake from the plane should have been visible in the explosion/smoke.
for example in the naudet film.
  Topic: wake turbulence - real world plane physics
jfk

Replies: 3
Views: 1839

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:56 am   Subject: wake turbulence - real world plane physics
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Jk051zxBQ[/youtube]
  Topic: Finally! A basic 3d model that debunks Fakery!
jfk

Replies: 31
Views: 16717

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:55 pm   Subject: Finally! A basic 3d model that debunks Fakery!
1: Do you accept, after watching the video at the top of this thread, that perspective plays a massive role in the perceived differences in the videos of flight paths?

2: Can you admit to yourself, ...
  Topic: Finally! A basic 3d model that debunks Fakery!
jfk

Replies: 31
Views: 16717

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:01 pm   Subject: Finally! A basic 3d model that debunks Fakery!
The thread starts with the claim of different flightpaths and backgrounds (as it was NOT the same angle) being utterly and completly debunked,

why do you think the angle is different?
  Topic: Finally! A basic 3d model that debunks Fakery!
jfk

Replies: 31
Views: 16717

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:29 pm   Subject: Finally! A basic 3d model that debunks Fakery!
ok so, if the 'object' is the 'plane', why do these video's from the same angle show different flightpaths and backgrounds.

1.40 - 3.37

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Hw8sJE3R0[/youtu ...
  Topic: Finally! A basic 3d model that debunks Fakery!
jfk

Replies: 31
Views: 16717

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:28 pm   Subject: Finally! A basic 3d model that debunks Fakery!
jfk wrote:
it's certainly not a plane


Please explain the reasons for your use of "certainly".
Within the context of aircraft shape, direction of travel, view angle and camera resoluti ...
  Topic: Finally! A basic 3d model that debunks Fakery!
jfk

Replies: 31
Views: 16717

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:57 am   Subject: Finally! A basic 3d model that debunks Fakery!
Who knows, maybe it is a UFO afterall, but would it be a real or a fake one? Perhaps you could ask that question at the next sermon at the church of tvf...?


it's certainly not a plane
  Topic: Finally! A basic 3d model that debunks Fakery!
jfk

Replies: 31
Views: 16717

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:25 pm   Subject: Finally! A basic 3d model that debunks Fakery!
it seems you are relying on video evidence of the 'plane', that has not been verified as authentic by any experts, to prove your point.
even if the model shows the flightpaths are roughly the same th ...
  Topic: Smoke & Mirrors - evidence of TV fakery?
jfk

Replies: 21
Views: 20143

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:18 pm   Subject: Smoke & Mirrors - evidence of TV fakery?
gruts, this was shown on MSM, not doctored by a no planer/youtuber!
  Topic: Smoke & Mirrors - evidence of TV fakery?
jfk

Replies: 21
Views: 20143

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:42 pm   Subject: Smoke & Mirrors - evidence of TV fakery?
am i to assume that chek & gruts believe the footage broadcast by detroit public tv is FAKED!
  Topic: Smoke & Mirrors - evidence of TV fakery?
jfk

Replies: 21
Views: 20143

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:14 am   Subject: Smoke & Mirrors - evidence of TV fakery?
the smoke is faked, and it wasn't me wot dunnit

who did?
  Topic: Smoke & Mirrors - evidence of TV fakery?
jfk

Replies: 21
Views: 20143

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:19 am   Subject: Smoke & Mirrors - evidence of TV fakery?
actually chek it is a detroit public tv clip

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oquV3of3h8
[/youtube]

try again
  Topic: Smoke & Mirrors - evidence of TV fakery?
jfk

Replies: 21
Views: 20143

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:14 pm   Subject: Smoke & Mirrors - evidence of TV fakery?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5DmIluepic[/youtube][/youtube  ]
  Topic: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
jfk

Replies: 53
Views: 29879

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:56 am   Subject: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
the way I see it, you NPT warriors have not only been captured, disarmed and sent to the gulag but you're spending the rest of the war in the rape room bent over and taking it from the likes of simple ...
  Topic: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
jfk

Replies: 53
Views: 29879

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:39 pm   Subject: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
att. mods gruts is out of order
  Topic: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
jfk

Replies: 53
Views: 29879

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:09 am   Subject: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
Your ability to delude yourself is staggering.

The "divebombing" in the second clip, as clearly shown in the explanation above, occurs BEFORE the first clip begins.


here is an analys ...
  Topic: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
jfk

Replies: 53
Views: 29879

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:56 am   Subject: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
in reference to the divebomber vs horizontal clips, one may say the length of the clips is different, but the fact remains that one is clearly divebombing and the others are not.
case closed

NEXT ...
  Topic: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
jfk

Replies: 53
Views: 29879

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:31 am   Subject: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
i wonder if nick irving could produce another point by point debunking of the new september clues?

truthaction.org/debunkingseptemberclues.pdf
  Topic: Voice Morphing Technology
jfk

Replies: 2
Views: 1764

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:03 am   Subject: Voice Morphing Technology
most likely voice morphing tech was not used.
more likely that the phonecalls were pre recorded during a TV terror drill exercise that went live on 9/11.

ps. mods thanks for my new member title!
  Topic: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
jfk

Replies: 53
Views: 29879

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:47 pm   Subject: September Clues - 2nd edition - high quality download
new september clues 2008 high quality

download at:

www.thesocialservice.it
  Topic: Nico Haupt, Paula Gloria, Howard Stern Bring 911 Global
jfk

Replies: 31
Views: 16123

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies   Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:14 pm   Subject: Nico Haupt, Paula Gloria, Howard Stern Bring 911 Global
is there any truth in this rick?

do let us know....


NO PLANER COINTELPRO Operation Becoming Transparent

http://wearechangecolorado.org/2008/08/02/114/

Morgan Rose
WeAreChangeColorado
8 ...
  Topic: 9/11, Deep State Violence and the Hope of Internet Politics
jfk

Replies: 4
Views: 1694

PostForum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth News   Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:00 pm   Subject: 9/11, Deep State Violence and the Hope of Internet Politics
From this historic background of collaboration, I would offer a hypothesis for further investigation: that the American deep state is somehow implicated with al-Qaeda in the atrocity of 9/11; and that ...
 
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